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Wolf
09-03-2007, 07:27 PM
SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 2007 – 12:00 PM (CENTRAL)
RELIANT STADIUM – HOUSTON, TEXAS

TV: CBS Regional Coverage (KCTV-5 in Kansas City) – Ian Eagle and Solomon Wilcots.
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THE MATCH-UP
Kansas City begins the 2007 regular season vs. Houston at Reliant Stadium on Sunday. Herm Edwards returns for his second season at the helm of the Chiefs. In 2006, he became the first coach in franchise history to guide the squad to the postseason in his initial season with the club. Meanwhile, Gary Kubiak enters his second campaign in Houston after posting a 6-10 mark in his inaugural year as the Texans head coach.

Faced with the daunting task of playing three of its first four games on the road, Kansas City will make its first appearance in Houston on Opening Day since registering a 20-19 victory vs. the Oilers at the Astrodome (9/1/96). The Texans will be attempting to snap a string of three consecutive Opening Day losses.

After ranking 11th in the league in scoring defense in 2006 (19.7 ppg), the Chiefs continued to bolster their defense in the off-season. The Chiefs added a pair of veteran LBs in Donnie Edwards (UFA-SD) and LB Napoleon Harris (UFA-MIN) to work alongside LB Derrick Johnson (D1-05). A new starting duo at safety in Bernard Pollard (D2-06) and Jarrad Page (D7-06) form a solid secondary unit with veteran CBs Ty Law and Patrick Surtain. A pair of promising newcomers on the defensive line in DE Turk McBride (D2-07) and DT Tank Tyler (D3-07) give the Chiefs a strong nucleus of young defensive talent to go with DE Tamba Hali (D1-06) and DT Alfonso Boone (UFA-CHI).

Eight-time Pro Bowl TE Tony Gonzalez and two-time Pro Bowl RB Larry Johnson headline Kansas City’s offensive unit. Both clubs will feature first-time Opening Day starters under center, with 11-year NFL veteran QB Damon Huard calling the signals for Kansas City, while QB Matt Schaub is expected to make his initial start in a Texans uniform.

Up next for the Chiefs is a nationally-televised contest at Chicago (9/16) when Kansas City takes on the defending NFC champions. Houston travels to Carolina (9/16) in Week Two of the regular season.

THE SERIES
The road team has won all three games of the brief Chiefs-Texans regular season series that Kansas City leads by a 2-1 count. In the most recent meeting between the two teams, Kansas City claimed a 45-10 victory at Houston (11/20/05) as RB Larry Johnson racked up a franchise single-game record 211 rushing yards, surpassing the previous mark of 200 yards established by RB Barry Word vs. Detroit (10/14/90).

The Chiefs won their inaugural regular season meeting with the Texans by a 42-14 count at Reliant Stadium (9/21/03) in a game that featured a 73-yard punt return TD by WR Dante Hall and a pair of rushing scores from RB Priest Holmes. The Texans won the only regular season outing between the two clubs at Arrowhead by a 24-21 score (9/26/04) as a 101-yard INT return TD by Texans CB Marcus Coleman changed the momentum of the game in Houston’s favor.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/09/03/chiefs_vs_texans__game_1/


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JohnsonFan
09-03-2007, 07:30 PM
thanks, i am not nervous

gtexan02
09-03-2007, 07:31 PM
Jeez, I didn't realize how good their defense is. Thats a pretty impressive unit overall

TexansLucky13
09-03-2007, 07:34 PM
Jeez, I didn't realize how good their defense is. Thats a pretty impressive unit overall

The way it's written makes them seem that much better. I could easily substitute Chiefs players with Texans players on that list and it would work well enough (other than the safeties party).

We will see.

HersheyBar
09-03-2007, 08:18 PM
Jeez, I didn't realize how good their defense is. Thats a pretty impressive unit overall

The D only got better. We got rid of some dead weight and the middle is solid as a rock. LB are the best in the league. Look at the depth Chart. With the loss of JA Taylor is going to have to pick it up a notch and has had an outstanding preseason. The D could be responsible for 3 to 10 points if this happens you might as well move on to the next game

This though is more of a team of Marty ball. Not bragging about our Offense. Herm is very concervative and Solori our OC is an *****. For what ever reason Huard and the Offense jelled last year. The poor outing in the preseason is nothing to worry about as he had the exact same preseaon last year.

Chiefs 13 - 10 Texans.

Second Honeymoon
09-03-2007, 08:22 PM
Texans 23
Chiefs 13

heard it here first :0

HersheyBar
09-03-2007, 08:30 PM
Texans 23
Chiefs 13

heard it here first :0

Yes we did. I will be the first to eat some BBQ CROW if you all do win. On the other hand I have been told we serve some very nice BBQ CROW KC style. I might have to ask for a catering service if we do win. There seems to be a lot of you all. LOL

Texans_Chick
09-03-2007, 08:35 PM
The D only got better. We got rid of some dead weight and the middle is solid as a rock. LB are the best in the league. Look at the depth Chart. With the loss of JA Taylor is going to have to pick it up a notch and has had an outstanding preseason. The D could be responsible for 3 to 10 points if this happens you might as well move on to the next game

This though is more of a team of Marty ball. Not bragging about our Offense. Herm is very concervative and Solori our OC is an *****. For what ever reason Huard and the Offense jelled last year. The poor outing in the preseason is nothing to worry about as he had the exact same preseaon last year.

Chiefs 13 - 10 Texans.

If you have someone that can run the ball and chew clock, it helps your defense because they aren't on the field as long.

It would be nice if the Texans could put up some early points.

jaybird
09-03-2007, 08:40 PM
If you have someone that can run the ball and chew clock, it helps your defense because they aren't on the field as long.

It would be nice if the Texans could put up some early points.

Two words... Jones and Mathis... special teams is going to have to be huge this game.

HersheyBar
09-03-2007, 08:42 PM
If you have someone that can run the ball and chew clock, it helps your defense because they aren't on the field as long.

It would be nice if the Texans could put up some early points.

If that happen the Chiefs are in trouble, if we get the coin toss and keep your offense off the field you all may be in trouble. Either way it is going to be a good game I am sure of it.

HersheyBar
09-03-2007, 08:43 PM
Two words... Jones and Mathis... special teams is going to have to be huge this game.

We have a great punter, and who know who we will have before the week is out for a kicker. Time will tell but if I am the Chiefs I kick it out of bounds on Punts, and squib it or onside the kick offs. Can't be any worse?

jaybird
09-03-2007, 08:47 PM
We have a great punter, and who know who we will have before the week is out for a kicker. Time will tell but if I am the Chiefs I kick it out of bounds on Punts, and squib it or onside the kick offs. Can't be any worse?

That would be the smart move. Jones has some serious speed... and Mathis is no slouch either. Both are great returners.

mexican_texan
09-03-2007, 08:48 PM
33-21. Matt Turk recieves the game ball and the chick.

HersheyBar
09-03-2007, 08:58 PM
That would be the smart move. Jones has some serious speed... and Mathis is no slouch either. Both are great returners.

That is what I hear. If they are not touching the ball it can only be a plus for the Chiefs

TK_Gamer
09-03-2007, 09:37 PM
I seriously think the key for the Texans will be scoring early and minimizing Larry Johnson's input. If KC is forced to throw too much their glaring weakness will lose the game for them. Their offense both scheme wise and personnel wise is limited by a less than adequate O-line. My main question is will their O-line be able to make the holes for LJ to exploit? I think if we are to be successful on offense we will need Ron Dayne to soften up the defense in the early going.

HersheyBar
09-03-2007, 09:57 PM
I seriously think the key for the Texans will be scoring early and minimizing Larry Johnson's input. If KC is forced to throw too much their glaring weakness will lose the game for them. Their offense both scheme wise and personnel wise is limited by a less than adequate O-line. My main question is will their O-line be able to make the holes for LJ to exploit? I think if we are to be successful on offense we will need Ron Dayne to soften up the defense in the early going.

Well the OL just got a shot in the arm. MacIntosh will start. He practiced today and was very impressive coach Herm pronouced him the starter at LT. He is especially good at run blocking. Passing game might surprise you. There are players you have not even seen yet. The D is very impressive. We can score and if that happens on D it will be a long day for the Texans. I agree with you about the TX's scoring early though. It would be a huge advantage.

The Pencil Neck
09-03-2007, 10:05 PM
Yes we did. I will be the first to eat some BBQ CROW if you all do win. On the other hand I have been told we serve some very nice BBQ CROW KC style. I might have to ask for a catering service if we do win. There seems to be a lot of you all. LOL

Put the link to your normal board and I'll be sure to come by and take a few bites of crow.

Fair's far.

BSofA04
09-04-2007, 12:25 AM
This game's going to be a tough one, no doubt. KC has a very strong defense and a very good running game. If we can limit the turnovers and get a consistent pass rush on Huard it's game, set, match. LJ's going to do his thing, no doubt about it, but even he can't win this game by himself. Home field advantage, Matt Schaub at QB, defense swarming to the ball.....
Chiefs 14
Texans 27

TK_Gamer
09-04-2007, 07:15 AM
OH and I forgot to mention, I live in the KC area, know all about the "Passing game" and O-line situation.

texanskan
09-04-2007, 08:51 AM
Texans 27
KC 10

LJ will bust a big one and set up a TD and that rookie kicker they have will go 1-2 and as far as the Texans go I see 2 to's on D that results in 10 points and Matt to AJ for one TD and Green for another add one more Brown FG late to make it a three score game.

HersheyBar
09-04-2007, 09:06 AM
this guy really thinks LJ is just about to roll over our defense, huh?

i got news for you hersheyman, our run defense is solid. if you're going to bank on LJ's game to win it i'm not so sure you should be proclaiming a victory on an opposing board.

this is the week matt schaub steps into the light being mentioned alongside the current best at the position. schaub is going to cut your defense apart like mike in the mask chasing around wide-eyed teenagers...

Did I say that? LJ though is a great RB though in my opinion. He will be a handful for any team to recon with. If you feel insure then spout off. I believe I was making a comment about our OL getting a boost in the arm with him coming back. I went ahead and mentioned his predominate strengths is all which is run blocking.

I am sure Schaub will do well and have never said otherwise. You go boy.. LOL :whip:

I do think our D though is significantly better as I am sure you think your O is better than ours. If Jared was not suspended I do think your organization could hand out the crying towels to all the fans at the gate. The Offense is you’re strength while our Defense is ours. Offense sells tickets, Defense wins games.

Home field advantage is huge for you all; it will be a crazy day there at one of the nicest stadiums in the NFL. MY ONLY WISH IS I WAS GOING TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT MY TEAM. Win or lose I would like to be there.

Vinny
09-04-2007, 09:08 AM
actually, our run D is a massive question mark. I wouldn't characterize it as "solid"...but heck, I'm am kinda hoping we look "solid" on Sunday. :d:

Texan_Bill
09-04-2007, 09:16 AM
Did I say that? LJ though is a great RB though in my opinion. He will be a handful for any team to recon with. If you feel insure then spout off. I believe I was making a comment about our OL getting a boost in the arm with him coming back. I went ahead and mentioned his predominate strengths is all which is run blocking.

I am sure Schaub will do well and have never said otherwise. You go boy.. LOL :whip:

I do think our D though is significantly better as I am sure you think your O is better than ours. If Jared was not suspended I do think your organization could hand out the crying towels to all the fans at the gate. The Offense is you’re strength while our Defense is ours. Offense sells tickets, Defense wins games.

Home field advantage is huge for you all; it will be a crazy day there at one of the nicest stadiums in the NFL. MY ONLY WISH IS I WAS GOING TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT MY TEAM. Win or lose I would like to be there.


Your O-line sucks... Afterall, we stole Jordan Black from you.... :rolleyes:


Actually, I see this pretty low scoring. Not that the Texans O hasn't improved, but KC's "D" is pretty tough...

My pick 13-10 - Good Guys

HersheyBar
09-04-2007, 09:23 AM
Your O-line sucks... Afterall, we stole Jordan Black from you.... :rolleyes:


Actually, I see this pretty low scoring. Not that the Texans O hasn't improved, but KC's "D" is pretty tough...

My pick 13-10 - Good Guys

Stole? You did us a favor by taking him off our roster so we could upgrade to MacIntosh. LOL. Hope you never have to use him

Your right about low scoring game

Texan_Bill
09-04-2007, 09:25 AM
Stole? You did us a favor by taking him off our roster so we could upgrade to MacIntosh. LOL. Hope you never have to use him

Your right about low scoring game

*thus the rolling of eyes*

powerfuldragon
09-04-2007, 10:17 AM
33-21. Matt Turk recieves the game ball and the chick.
yup.

HersheyBar
09-04-2007, 10:44 AM
Hey Texans..... I can't believe you are starting Black at LT. OMG.. Don't you think we know every trick he has in the book (one) You went after him in FA and I just thought you were looking for Depth? You can thank the football Gods that Jared Allen is suspended. It would be a 3 maybe 4 sack day for him. Yes I am very much talking bad about him. You're QB will be doing a lot of Rolling out to Tamba side. It is very obvious. Yes it will work a couple time but Tamba is very quick. I just can't believe Black is going to be protecting your QB blind side. Guess where we will be blitzing. LOL

nunusguy
09-04-2007, 10:45 AM
In case anybody needs to be reminded just how tough this league is and
how difficult it will be for us to achieve a winning record or even break-even this season, let me remind you that this is clearly the most "winnable game" we will have of the 4 we play in Sept. And I haven't forgotten that ATL is without Micahel Vick, because that is a road game for us.
The Chiefs are good, dang good. They have a very talented D and our QB is totally untested against an NFL team in such a meaningful and important game as this one, our teams season opener. Fact is he's only played in a handful of RS games, and started I'm thinking just 2. I'm excited about MS, but he is basically an unproven NFL player at this point in time.
On the other hand, the Chiefs are starting a QB who while not overly blessed with talent, has loads of experience and has won games. And they also have one of the leagues best rushers, probably the best running back in the league when it comes to a combo of size and strength to run inside the tackles while also having the pure speed to break a long-run. Then there's maybe the best TE the game has ever seen ?
I certainly hope we win, but if we do, it ain't gonna be easy.

HersheyBar
09-04-2007, 10:53 AM
In case anybody needs to be reminded just how tough this league is and
how difficult it will be for us to achieve a winning record or even break-even this season, let me remind you that this is clearly the most "winnable game" we will have of the 4 we play in Sept. And I haven't forgotten that ATL is without Micahel Vick, because that is a road game for us.
The Chiefs are good, dang good. They have a very talented D and our QB is totally untested against an NFL team in such a meaningful and important game as this one, our teams season opener. Fact is he's only played in a handful of RS games, and started I'm thinking just 2. I'm excited about MS, but he is basically an unproven NFL player at this point in time.
On the other hand, the Chiefs are starting a QB who while not overly blessed with talent, has loads of experience and has won games. And they also have one of the leagues best rushers, probably the best running back in the league when it comes to a combo of size and strength to run inside the tackles while also having the pure speed to break a long-run. Then there's maybe the best TE the game has ever seen ?
I certainly hope we win, but if we do, it ain't gonna be easy.

Well said but you do have hf advantage although the winner in the last three games have been the vistor

infantrycak
09-04-2007, 11:01 AM
Hey Texans..... I can't believe you are starting Black at LT. OMG.. ... LOL

Not so fast with the LOL. Black is the backup LT. Salaam is the starter.

Shaft75
09-04-2007, 11:08 AM
The Texans will trample the Chiefs because...

a) Our special teams will outplay yours everytime. We have a pro-bowl KR(Mathis) and an up-and-coming star(Jones), with two TD PR's in the preseason. So if our offense and defense neutralize each other, which they won't, we have the edge anyways.

b) Our new QB and his new go-to guys. This isn't the same Texans team that had Corey Bradford as a #2 WR. We have three legitimate deep threats and a QB that can actually read defenses. That goes along with a proven RB that will block for his QB and is a dual runnning/pass-catching threat.

c) Our OL isn't as bad as ESPiN or any other national media outlets say it is. Carr was so indecisive, but now he is gone. We have a qb that can make reads and doesn't have to be coached up as much. (That is one thing I can say to you guys about Croyle. Sometimes he may make some bad decisions, BUT at least he has the juevos to make a decision and not just give up and get into the fetal position, or cough up the ball.)

d) We have a run-stopping defense. With Dunta Robinson coming up and making plays on the run I am sure that you will see more than one big lick on LJ. We also have some run-first safeties that will stack the box, a MLB that will seek and destroy, and some DT's and DE's that will clog some gaps.

e) Where are your receiving threats? It's a given that Gonzalez will make plays, so yeah he is a threat. BUT, who do you have at WR? Dwayne Bowe isn't taking shape as quickly as I would want him to if I were a Chiefs fan. Kennison is gray haired and Sammie Parker loves to drop passes.

Therefore I can conclude...
Welcome to "The School of Hard Knocks: Texans Style"

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x146/nfl_mitchell/Houston%20Texans/fullj_getty-76024703bl017_chicago_b.jpg

I posted this at the Chiefs MB.

Shaft75
09-04-2007, 11:09 AM
I kind of regret putting that pic up though, because I don't want our team looking like they enjoy... Well, you know.

Texan_Bill
09-04-2007, 11:14 AM
I kind of regret putting that pic up though, because I don't want our team looking like they enjoy... Well, you know.

...... knocking the snot out of someone?!!?!

Shaft75
09-04-2007, 11:24 AM
...... knocking the snot out of someone?!!?!

I have a response, but due to the overwhelming number of teenagers joining the board, all I would really be saying is...
:banme

powerfuldragon
09-04-2007, 11:26 AM
IT LOOKS LIKE 66 is performing the oral pleasures with reckless abandon.

you're welcome.

Shaft75
09-04-2007, 11:29 AM
IT LOOKS LIKE 66 is performing the oral pleasures with reckless abandon.

you're welcome.

:ohsnap:

kastofsna
09-04-2007, 11:30 AM
Yes we did. I will be the first to eat some BBQ CROW if you all do win. On the other hand I have been told we serve some very nice BBQ CROW KC style. I might have to ask for a catering service if we do win. There seems to be a lot of you all. LOL
yeah it's bizarre how many people are picking the Texans to win on a Texans board

HersheyBar
09-04-2007, 11:56 AM
I posted this at the Chiefs MB.

Oh how cute...
Welcome to "The School of Hard Knocks: Texans Style"

Bet you thought that up all by yourself. In response to this very one sided response and will only answer what you have brought up.

1. You all are putting a lot of stock into ST OMG. We will kick it out of bounds, deep into the endzone, or corner kick it. Kick offs are going 5 yards deep into the endzone, or squip kicked ST will have a play into it but won't be a deciding factor in the game.

2. Your Offense is good but so is our D. Both with equal out to a long day. Ball control and turnovers will have a huge outcome on this game.

3. Your OL is the worst in the league. Look up how many sacks you have given up and then you add black to protect your QB blind side. HE IS NOT EVEN A PURE LT MY FRIEND! This would be a 3 maybe 4 sack day if JA was not suspended. Black would be third string on our OL.

4. Don't care who you have to run stop. You're D can't tackle. WOW.. You show one picture of one of the times you hold on. I have seen 3X as many busted plays where your D has flat out had them and let them go. The D is going to hurt this team every week. Offensives sell tickets is all, Defensives win games

5. We only have to score 14 points at most to win this game. Our D will keep us in the game. Kennison, Gonzo, Bowe, and Parker will all do fine.

Unlike the TX's we have shown nothing in preseason. While you're team has actually shown it all. Thanks for the preivew we know exactly what to defene. I see no problems. Fix the D and the OL and you might be a 500 team

Final score Chiefs 13 Texans 10. LJ 148 yards.

Texan_Bill
09-04-2007, 11:58 AM
:ohsnap:
Originally Posted by CabbageFerguson
IT LOOKS LIKE 66 is performing the oral pleasures with reckless abandon.

you're welcome.



And to think, you were worried about 'your' response...

The Pencil Neck
09-04-2007, 11:59 AM
yeah it's bizarre how many people are picking the Texans to win on a Texans board

I just realized something.

A big difference between last year and this year is that pretty much everyone who's a Texan's fan is actually picking the Texans to win. Last year, there were some people picking the Texans and some people picking the Eagles. Granted, the Eagles were good but they were coming off a worse year than the Chiefs. But it was like that for almost every game last year. Some people picking us to win, some people to lose.

:fans:

Errant Hothy
09-04-2007, 11:59 AM
yeah it's bizarre how many people are picking the Texans to win on a Texans board

So, what does our residnet Fin fan think is going to be the final score?

kastofsna
09-04-2007, 12:05 PM
So, what does our residnet Fin fan think is going to be the final score?
texans win, something like 27-13. i think Schaub is ready.

The Pencil Neck
09-04-2007, 12:13 PM
Oh how cute...
Welcome to "The School of Hard Knocks: Texans Style"

Bet you thought that up all by yourself. In response to this very one sided response and will only answer what you have brought up.

1. You all are putting a lot of stock into ST OMG. We will kick it out of bounds, deep into the endzone, or corner kick it. Kick offs are going 5 yards deep into the endzone, or squip kicked ST will have a play into it but won't be a deciding factor in the game.

2. Your Offense is good but so is our D. Both with equal out to a long day. Ball control and turnovers will have a huge outcome on this game.

3. Your OL is the worst in the league. Look up how many sacks you have given up and then you add black to protect your QB blind side. HE IS NOT EVEN A PURE LT MY FRIEND! This would be a 3 maybe 4 sack day if JA was not suspended. Black would be third string on our OL.

4. Don't care who you have to run stop. You're D can't tackle. WOW.. You show one picture of one of the times you hold on. I have seen 3X as many busted plays where your D has flat out had them and let them go. The D is going to hurt this team every week. Offensives sell tickets is all, Defensives win games

5. We only have to score 14 points at most to win this game. Our D will keep us in the game. Kennison, Gonzo, Bowe, and Parker will all do fine.

Unlike the TX's we have shown nothing in preseason. While you're team has actually shown it all. Thanks for the preivew we know exactly what to defene. I see no problems. Fix the D and the OL and you might be a 500 team

Final score Chiefs 13 Texans 10. LJ 148 yards.

To your points:

1. Remember when you had Dante Hall? Well, we've got the 2007 version. If you kick it to him, you're eventually going to get burned.

2. We'll just have to wait and see who makes the most/last mistakes.

3. Our OL isn't the worst in the league. Last year, a bunch of those sacks were the fault of the QB. We've got a different QB. Some of those sacks were the fault of the RB's not being able to do blitz pickups; those RB's are gone. And Black was only signed for depth along the line. He won't be starting and hopefully won't be playing.

4. Our D can't tackle? Our D was ranked 10th in the league over the last 13 games of the season. We started off last season with 3 of the worst games ever. But after we got it together, we were very good.

5. Your D isn't going to keep you in this game and LJ isn't going to save you. You're going to have to score more than 14.

21-6, Texans.

Padrino
09-04-2007, 12:26 PM
hello everyone, chiefs fan here
i'm comin out to the game and i'm lookin forward to it
i hope both teams play very well, wouldn't want it to be too easy for either side

here's to the pregame all-you-can-eat/drink-buffet:beerfunnel:
hope its worth the $25 i spent on the lonestar club ticket

BSofA04
09-04-2007, 12:26 PM
To your points:

1. Remember when you had Dante Hall? Well, we've got the 2007 version. If you kick it to him, you're eventually going to get burned.

2. We'll just have to wait and see who makes the most/last mistakes.

3. Our OL isn't the worst in the league. Last year, a bunch of those sacks were the fault of the QB. We've got a different QB. Some of those sacks were the fault of the RB's not being able to do blitz pickups; those RB's are gone. And Black was only signed for depth along the line. He won't be starting and hopefully won't be playing.

4. Our D can't tackle? Our D was ranked 10th in the league over the last 13 games of the season. We started off last season with 3 of the worst games ever. But after we got it together, we were very good.

5. Your D isn't going to keep you in this game and LJ isn't going to save you. You're going to have to score more than 14.

21-6, Texans.

Right on. KC just has too many questions on offense. LJ isn't going to save them and Huard can't throw the deep ball. We're going to stack 8 men in the box and crush any running lanes. And BTW, DeMeco Ryans....get used to hearing that name. He's going to be everywhere.
Chiefs 14
Texans 27

Shaft75
09-04-2007, 12:37 PM
Oh how cute...
Welcome to "The School of Hard Knocks: Texans Style"

Did I strike a nerve???

Bet you thought that up all by yourself. In response to this very one sided response(nice wordchoice) and will only answer what you have brought up.

1. You all are putting a lot of stock into ST OMG. We will kick it out of bounds, deep into the endzone, or corner kick it. Kick offs are going 5 yards deep into the endzone, or squip kicked ST will have a play into it but won't be a deciding factor in the game.

So you are admitting that you will be punting a lot then, good!

2. Your Offense is good but so is our D. Both with equal out to a long day. Ball control and turnovers will have a huge outcome on this game.

Great analysis. I like the way that you referred to...

3. Your OL is the worst in the league. Look up how many sacks you have given up and then you add black to protect your QB blind side. HE IS NOT EVEN A PURE LT MY FRIEND! This would be a 3 maybe 4 sack day if JA was not suspended. Black would be third string on our OL.

Am I speaking to Mark Schlereth? Len Pasquarelli? Mike Golic? Which one are you? Judging by the name you have to be Pasquarelli. By the way, Carr is in the fetal position in Carolina. You should check out one of their preseason replays.

4. Don't care who you have to run stop. You're D can't tackle. WOW.. You show one picture of one of the times you hold on. I have seen 3X as many busted plays where your D has flat out had them and let them go. The D is going to hurt this team every week. Offensives sell tickets is all, Defensives win games(WHAT THE...)

Our D can't tackle huh? The appropriate response would be our D can't cover. But not tackling? Okay, I can't get over this comment, you are a waste of time I am stopping here....

5. We only have to score 14 points at most to win this game. Our D will keep us in the game. Kennison, Gonzo, Bowe, and Parker will all do fine.

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Larry Johnson. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Tony Gonzalez....

Unlike the TX's we have shown nothing in preseason. While you're team has actually shown it all. Thanks for the preivew we know exactly what to defene. I see no problems. Fix the D and the OL and you might be a 500 team

Final score Chiefs 13 Texans 10. LJ 148 yards.

:cowboy1:

HersheyBar
09-04-2007, 12:43 PM
To your points:

1. Remember when you had Dante Hall? Well, we've got the 2007 version. If you kick it to him, you're eventually going to get burned.

2. We'll just have to wait and see who makes the most/last mistakes.

3. Our OL isn't the worst in the league. Last year, a bunch of those sacks were the fault of the QB. We've got a different QB. Some of those sacks were the fault of the RB's not being able to do blitz pickups; those RB's are gone. And Black was only signed for depth along the line. He won't be starting and hopefully won't be playing.

4. Our D can't tackle? Our D was ranked 10th in the league over the last 13 games of the season. We started off last season with 3 of the worst games ever. But after we got it together, we were very good.

5. Your D isn't going to keep you in this game and LJ isn't going to save you. You're going to have to score more than 14.

21-6, Texans.

1. We have our own version of the 2007 Returner also.

2. So you are agreeing that you have missed a lot of tackles?

3. Yes your OL is the worst in the League. I would love to have Carr back up Huard. He was getting sacked so many times it made his head spin. Ruin a perfectly good QB.

4. Huard will get sacked a few times, but this is ball control. Most of our passes are short so stack that line. Not worried about your D AT ALL

5. LJ is not our only RB, we have another name Bennet. Use to be the fastest man in the NFL. Never said he would save us. This is a team sport and as you will see 14 points is all it will take. Our D is that good.

:)

infantrycak
09-04-2007, 12:47 PM
3. Yes your OL is the worst in the League. I would love to have Carr back up Huard. He was getting sacked so many times it made his head spin. Ruin a perfectly good QB.

:)

You clearly haven't watched enough Texans games--there goes any credibility on missed tackles.

swtbound07
09-04-2007, 12:47 PM
lets be honest here. Nobody, and i mean nobody here can realistically think the chiefs will win. Wake me up when you have an answer for JJ and Andre. Wake me up when u decide whether or not brodie croyle is an nfl qb. Go Huard?!!?! Please. You have a great defensive player...unfortunately, he is suspended. This won't even be close. Wake up nfl.....31-10 texans.

Honoring Earl 34
09-04-2007, 01:00 PM
Well ... looking at the Chefs depth chart ... I see a bunch of journeymen and LJ . http://www.kcchiefs.com/depth_chart/



This is not the Will Shields , Willie Roaf Chiefs . This is LJ carrying the ball a handfulll of times this preseason after being the Chiefs offense last year . He'll probably pull a groin in the 1st quarter .

I have confidence in the Texans young stars ... Schaub , AJ , JJ , Owen Daniels , and Mathis . Add vet Ahman Green and this will be the beginning of something good .

So I suspect that the Chiefs will fall ahead early and Lj will be taken out of the game .

Texans 27 - 10

Texan Asylum
09-04-2007, 01:03 PM
lets be honest here. Nobody, and i mean nobody here can realistically think the chiefs will win. Wake me up when you have an answer for JJ and Andre. Wake me up when u decide whether or not brodie croyle is an nfl qb. Go Huard?!!?! Please. You have a great defensive player...unfortunately, he is suspended. This won't even be close. Wake up nfl.....31-10 texans.

Pretty fair take on it, and also my thoughts regarding the score...if we keep it under the high 30's. :cool:

TexansLucky13
09-04-2007, 01:13 PM
lets be honest here. Nobody, and i mean nobody here can realistically think the chiefs will win. Wake me up when you have an answer for JJ and Andre. Wake me up when u decide whether or not brodie croyle is an nfl qb. Go Huard?!!?! Please. You have a great defensive player...unfortunately, he is suspended. This won't even be close. Wake up nfl.....31-10 texans.

These are words of truth!

:fans:

HJam72
09-04-2007, 01:15 PM
Look, you're right about Black, mostly anyway; but, Black won't play unless Salaam has a stroke or something, which we're hoping won't happen. As long as Salaam is still standing and David Carr stays off of our team, we have a mediocre O-line. Actually, it might even be a little above average at the run-blocking part.

We have 2 (not one--> 2) outstanding returners. That's why people are excited about the ST. We also have an outstanding ST coach, as has been shown for several years.

The last 13 games thing is true. The funny thing is that our D actually does have a serious weakness, but that's the one thing that your offense is incapable of taking advantage of. We have 2 strong safeties. I can't remember this team ever having a FS. I'm beginning to wonder if they know what that is. Even our DBs are geared against the run.

I kind of think, though, that there is another issue here too that I'm about to address. The Texans had a very large number of players spending an aweful lot of time staying in Houston over the off-season. Training, studying film, more training, some more freaking training, etc. David Carr is gone bye-bye. We FINALLY have a RB that can actually help with pass blocking. I think that's a first. There is a confidence about this team right now that is masking a whole lot of freaking anger. These guys have been thinking about September 9th since about January 1st. Obviously, it is not anything about the Chiefs, but it is about ESPiN and the national media. It's about Charlie Casserlie and Dom Capers. It's about freaking time is what it is.

I'm not knocking the Chiefs when I say that you may very well be our first victim in a long line of tension relief.

You have admitted somewhere on these boards that the Chiefs will need to stop us from getting an early lead, which you apparently feel confident that they will do. That's not just an issue with your offense, though--it's an issue with the crowd, which will be nuts. The slightest reason to be loud will bring the roof down. Houston just wants it that bad.

Now, maybe I'm just getting too excited myself and letting it befoul my judgement, but I don't think so. We're not expecting deep play-offs or anything like that, but we are chomping at the bit for a winning season, and so are most of our players.

HersheyBar
09-04-2007, 01:54 PM
Look, you're right about Black, mostly anyway; but, Black won't play unless Salaam has a stroke or something, which we're hoping won't happen. As long as Salaam is still standing and David Carr stays off of our team, we have a mediocre O-line. Actually, it might even be a little above average at the run-blocking part.

We have 2 (not one--> 2) outstanding returners. That's why people are excited about the ST. We also have an outstanding ST coach, as has been shown for several years.

The last 13 games thing is true. The funny thing is that our D actually does have a serious weakness, but that's the one thing that your offense is incapable of taking advantage of. We have 2 strong safeties. I can't remember this team ever having a FS. I'm beginning to wonder if they know what that is. Even our DBs are geared against the run.

I kind of think, though, that there is another issue here too that I'm about to address. The Texans had a very large number of players spending an aweful lot of time staying in Houston over the off-season. Training, studying film, more training, some more freaking training, etc. David Carr is gone bye-bye. We FINALLY have a RB that can actually help with pass blocking. I think that's a first. There is a confidence about this team right now that is masking a whole lot of freaking anger. These guys have been thinking about September 9th since about January 1st. Obviously, it is not anything about the Chiefs, but it is about ESPiN and the national media. It's about Charlie Casserlie and Dom Capers. It's about freaking time is what it is.

I'm not knocking the Chiefs when I say that you may very well be our first victim in a long line of tension relief.

You have admitted somewhere on these boards that the Chiefs will need to stop us from getting an early lead, which you apparently feel confident that they will do. That's not just an issue with your offense, though--it's an issue with the crowd, which will be nuts. The slightest reason to be loud will bring the roof down. Houston just wants it that bad.

Now, maybe I'm just getting too excited myself and letting it befoul my judgement, but I don't think so. We're not expecting deep play-offs or anything like that, but we are chomping at the bit for a winning season, and so are most of our players.

Interesting post. Yes I did say that we cannot aford to let you get to a fast start. That is with any team my friend. We are not a 40 point team any longer. 17 points will Guarentee a win.

FS are hasbeen CB. They are in to help your Corners becasue they can't do the jobs by themsleves. Your D coaches are trying to help them out all they can. Nothing to brag about becasue your Corners need all the help they can get.

We will both really know how strong our teams are after this game and where there weekness are. I know we have a week OL but improving daily with the return of MacIntosh. It will be Marty ball vs, Air Coreal. The fact that your offense will be watching while we pound it out for 3 maybe 7 point does not hurt my feelings. Then we are banking that our Offense can do the job. It is very impressive as you will find out in you're first offensive series.

We will both know

DocBar
09-04-2007, 02:03 PM
My biggest worry with KC is that LJ will force us to load the box and expose our secondary to some big plays if we don't get a good pass rush and/or bite on PA's. Our Safeties will make or break this game for us. IMO, we should be able to do our thing against KC and let LJ get some yards instead of allowing the above scenario unfold. Bend, don't break kind of thinking.
I also think KC is going to be surprised by our O. Schaub has already made me eat some TEXAS style crow and I'm quite sure the KC D is gonna be surprised at our "improved" O-line. I once commented on here that O-lines make QB's look good, not vice-versa; BOY was I wrong on THAT one!!! Should be a good game, but I think my Texans prevail 24-14.

Texan Asylum
09-04-2007, 02:07 PM
There is a confidence about this team right now that is masking a whole lot of freaking anger...

I'm not knocking the Chiefs when I say that you may very well be our first victim in a long line of tension relief...

The slightest reason to be loud will bring the roof down. Houston just wants it that bad...

...but we are chomping at the bit for a winning season, and so are most of our players.

Excellent post and really what I believe to be the root of our success this year.

I'm ready...

The Pencil Neck
09-04-2007, 02:25 PM
1. We have our own version of the 2007 Returner also.

2. So you are agreeing that you have missed a lot of tackles?

3. Yes your OL is the worst in the League. I would love to have Carr back up Huard. He was getting sacked so many times it made his head spin. Ruin a perfectly good QB.

4. Huard will get sacked a few times, but this is ball control. Most of our passes are short so stack that line. Not worried about your D AT ALL

5. LJ is not our only RB, we have another name Bennet. Use to be the fastest man in the NFL. Never said he would save us. This is a team sport and as you will see 14 points is all it will take. Our D is that good.

:)

1. You've got a cast-off from Detroit. Drummond, right? He ain't Dante Hall. He hasn't scored since 2004.

2. The first three games of last season. After that, not so much. After that, we were giving up about 285 yards per game. You guys were giving up... what... 330 yards per game?

3. You have not seen Carr play. At the beginning of the 2004 season, he was good. Since then defensive coordinators have learned to get in his head. He doesn't see open receivers. He can't read defenses very well. He gets spooked when he sees pass rushers, even when they're not close to him. Our line gave him PLENTY of time last year and all he could do was immediately check down to his dump off. That's why he had a high completion percentage last year. Our line was not the reason there were so many sacks. If you watch his preseason games with Carolina, you'll see exactly the same things.

4. Only because you haven't seen it. Face it, both of our defenses had problems last year. We'll both see if they've improved any.

5. Yeah, we've seen Bennett. Not impressed. You better just hope that the LJ that shows up isn't the LJ that showed up against the Colts last year. We beat the Colts by running all over them; you tried to do that and couldn't. If you couldn't run on the Colts, you're not running on us. And you better not bring last year's D, either.

JohnsonFan
09-04-2007, 03:03 PM
I just realized something.

A big difference between last year and this year is that pretty much everyone who's a Texan's fan is actually picking the Texans to win. Last year, there were some people picking the Texans and some people picking the Eagles. Granted, the Eagles were good but they were coming off a worse year than the Chiefs. But it was like that for almost every game last year. Some people picking us to win, some people to lose.

:fans: this year out team is solid and is a big contender in the league

Shaft75
09-04-2007, 03:18 PM
this year out team is solid and is a big contender in the league

Tell em JohnsonFan! :wild:

Wolf
09-04-2007, 06:11 PM
lets be honest here. Nobody, and i mean nobody here can realistically think the chiefs will win. Wake me up when you have an answer for JJ and Andre. Wake me up when u decide whether or not brodie croyle is an nfl qb. Go Huard?!!?! Please. You have a great defensive player...unfortunately, he is suspended. This won't even be close. Wake up nfl.....31-10 texans.


come on SWT ...you pot stirrer.. Herm has a message for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMk5sMHj58I

for the record.I think we easy up on the adrenalin and play ball, I think close game.. 17-10(14) or 21-10 (14)
Texans

if we don't stop the run early I think it could be a long day, because secondary is our weakness and if we have to put 8 in the box.. advantage Chiefs (other than D-robs side) but it will be the Tony G show...

DBCooper
09-04-2007, 08:00 PM
Dear Mr. HersheyBar,

You have been watching ESPN too much. We do NOT have the worst offensive line in the league, that is a bad perception repeated over and over by bad sports analysts that do not do their homework. You will not like our defense. They came together last year and if they build on what they started, we will have a top 10 defense this year. A couple of names for you (actually you'll be hearing the names repeatedly on Sunday) Schaub, Daniels, Jones, Johnson, Green, Ryans. It's time to climb the ladder to respectability, starting with the Chefs. (typo on purpose)

JohnsonFan
09-04-2007, 08:07 PM
Dear Mr. HersheyBar,

You have been watching ESPN too much. We do NOT have the worst offensive line in the league, that is a bad perception repeated over and over by bad sports analysts that do not do their homework. You will not like our defense. They came together last year and if they build on what they started, we will have a top 10 defense this year. A couple of names for you (actually you'll be hearing the names repeatedly on Sunday) Schaub, Daniels, Jones, Johnson, Green, Ryans. It's time to climb the ladder to respectability, starting with the Chefs. (typo on purpose) true that we are truly a solid team, espn just hates us and thats a fact!

Shaft75
09-05-2007, 12:43 AM
Dear Mr. HersheyBar,

You have been watching ESPN too much. We do NOT have the worst offensive line in the league, that is a bad perception repeated over and over by bad sports analysts that do not do their homework. You will not like our defense. They came together last year and if they build on what they started, we will have a top 10 defense this year. A couple of names for you (actually you'll be hearing the names repeatedly on Sunday) Schaub, Daniels, Jones, Johnson, Green, Ryans. It's time to climb the ladder to respectability, starting with the Chefs. (typo on purpose)

...and Williams and Robinson...

Now your good.
:thumbup

Joe Texan
09-05-2007, 07:20 AM
You Play to win the GAME

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME

Joe Texan
09-05-2007, 07:44 AM
So Chiefs fan thinks we have shown it all, we do not have a run defense, we will be stumbling all over the ball because of a player we aquired from the Chiefs. I must remind you that we would not have picked up your player if he did not fit into the scheme. Better yet we haven't even addressed the ability of your secondary to defend the pass. You might be getting past our line but your not chasing the self sacking jalopy we had in the garage. We have stepped up to a real QB who is patient and does not colapse in the pocket but has the where with all to get out of the way of a bulldozer before it runs you over. We have an arsonel of weapons for the deap threat to the screen. Go ahead Chiefs Fan stand proudly upon that pedistal for the next few days. Cuase I see you falling off lika a Saddam statue in the middle of Bagdad on Sunday.

Señor Stan
09-05-2007, 08:28 AM
Go ahead Chiefs Fan stand proudly upon that pedistal for the next few days. Cuase I see you falling off lika a Saddam statue in the middle of Bagdad on Sunday.

...and I'm in a shoe-throwin' kinda mood.

Texan Asylum
09-05-2007, 08:32 AM
Go ahead Chiefs Fan stand proudly upon that pedistal for the next few days. Cuase I see you falling off lika a Saddam statue in the middle of Bagdad on Sunday.


...and I'm in a shoe-throwin' kinda mood.

This reads really nice when read like a 'Real Men of Genius' ad. :texflag:

DBCooper
09-05-2007, 11:56 AM
...and Williams and Robinson...

Now your good.
:thumbup

Thank you very much.