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dickieb
08-31-2007, 11:13 PM
So who's it gonna be? Was it just me or did Kubiak sound like there might be a MOVE possible (trade, or PUP possibility)? I wonder why they didn't PUP Abbate and Frye - I guess they think no one will pick them up.

Twitch-Houston
08-31-2007, 11:59 PM
Well judging by Kubiak's presser, I don't think Studdard is going anywhere. He seemed to let it slip (although I hate to call it a slip) that Studdard had made the roster.

-Twitch

JohnsonFan
09-01-2007, 12:02 AM
this is suspenseful!!!

MissouriTexan
09-01-2007, 12:19 AM
When's this announced? And apparently we're down to 55?

Twitch-Houston
09-01-2007, 12:23 AM
When's this announced? And apparently we're down to 55?

I believe the cuts have to be done by 5:00 PM Sat.

The Pencil Neck
09-01-2007, 12:24 AM
So who's it gonna be? Was it just me or did Kubiak sound like there might be a MOVE possible (trade, or PUP possibility)? I wonder why they didn't PUP Abbate and Frye - I guess they think no one will pick them up.

Well, there are rules about PUP'ing someone. They have to be examined by an independent doctor, I think. So Abbate and Frye weren't injured enough to PUP.

I think Cedric Killings is gone and possibly Dexter Wynn.

I think they might be trying to work a deal possibly with Jeb Putzier. They could probably get something for him.

beerlover
09-01-2007, 12:29 AM
I think they might be trying to work a deal possibly with Jeb Putzier. They could probably get something for him.

package him with black for a real tackle :specnatz:

The Pencil Neck
09-01-2007, 12:33 AM
package him with black for a real tackle :specnatz:

They actually get a BETTER deal if they DON'T include Black. :gun:

I thought it was funny. On the NFLN, (I think it was) Faulk was talking about how LJ was going to have a tough year this year because that Cheif line wasn't what it used to be and how LJ was going to be missing Shields, and Roaf.... and BLACK. :shades:

I laughed. I cried. It became a part of me.

MissouriTexan
09-01-2007, 01:15 AM
I believe the cuts have to be done by 5:00 PM Sat.

Thanks. And what's the info on Black? Why's everyone so opposed to him being on the team? As you can imagine from my board name, I don't really get to see many games, so I'd really like to know. Wasn't he a solid starter in KC?

Texans Horror
09-01-2007, 01:28 AM
Chiefs fans hated him (gave him the nickname I-65 cause he left a lane so open you could drive an interstate through it), and he had an awful play-off game. I remember watching some Chiefs behind-the-scenes stuff, and they were showing a picture of Black being pushed around and dominated, and Herm Edwards made the comment they had really upgraded the line in the offseason. Also, Black didn't have a stellar pre-season. JMO.

BattleRedToro
09-01-2007, 06:23 AM
I think the last 2 cuts will be Cedric Killings and Joel Dreessen. Of course they may cut more if they are able to pick up someone else's cut that would fit their team.

mancunian
09-01-2007, 07:32 AM
I reckon we'll look to trade for a safety before the deadline, which I thought was 3pm Eastern?

MojoMan
09-01-2007, 11:11 AM
Maybe they are trying to trade Mike Flanagan.

vtech9
09-01-2007, 11:36 AM
If Abbate isn't picked up by another team by the deadline today, he will make it to the practice squad. If this happens, I think Jameel Cook will be packing his bags. By keeping 4 TE's, the Texans can use one of those TE's as a backup FB if needed. As for the other cut, I think it will either be Cedrick Killings or Dexter Wynn.

LORK 88
09-01-2007, 02:05 PM
I reckon we'll look to trade for a safety before the deadline, which I thought was 3pm Eastern?
Wow, good call!

I think Killings is gone and we choose either Pittman or Dreessen. Maybe acouple other guys we might pick up on the waiver wire.

Errant Hothy
09-01-2007, 03:09 PM
Killings is gone and Harrison to IR, per the Rick Smith interview on the offical home page.

And that gets us to 53.

MojoMan
09-01-2007, 03:20 PM
Killings is gone and Harrison to IR, per the Rick Smith interview on the offical home page.

And that gets us to 53.

Does that mean Harrison is out for the year?

The Pencil Neck
09-01-2007, 03:24 PM
Does that mean Harrison is out for the year?

Yes.

TheRealJoker
09-01-2007, 03:26 PM
What happened to Harrison?

Errant Hothy
09-01-2007, 03:27 PM
What happened to Harrison?

Cuncussion in the Dallas game, then he pulled a hammy in practice this morning.

The Pencil Neck
09-01-2007, 03:35 PM
Cuncussion in the Dallas game, then he pulled a hammy in practice this morning.

And now he's on IR.

Specnatz
09-01-2007, 03:57 PM
And now he's on IR.

saves a roster spot what ever works, they did not want to lose him via wavier.

Texans Horror
09-01-2007, 04:42 PM
That means Studdard's in. Woohoo! The Texans are definitely on the up-and-coming now.

Texans Horror
09-01-2007, 05:15 PM
By draft, then, remaining a playing (non-IR/Pup) Texans:

2007 - Okoye, Jones, Bennett, Studdard, Diles
2006 - Mario, Demeco, Captain Caveman (Winston!), Owen Daniels
2005 - TJ, Mathis, CC Brown
2004 - Dunta, Anderson
2003 - AJ
2002 - Pitts, Weary, Faggins

Did I miss anybody?

2003 and 2004 - bust years...

threetoedpete
09-01-2007, 09:12 PM
Maybe they are trying to trade Mike Flanagan.

My money says the three centers aren't going anywhere.

MissouriTexan
09-01-2007, 09:15 PM
By draft, then, remaining a playing (non-IR/Pup) Texans:

2007 - Okoye, Jones, Bennett, Studdard, Diles
2006 - Mario, Demeco, Captain Caveman (Winston!), Owen Daniels
2005 - TJ, Mathis, CC Brown
2004 - Dunta, Anderson
2003 - AJ
2002 - Pitts, Weary, Faggins

Did I miss anybody?

2003 and 2004 - bust years...

Could you list who else they drafted those years, as well as where they are right now? It'd be much appreciated.

threetoedpete
09-01-2007, 09:15 PM
By draft, then, remaining a playing (non-IR/Pup) Texans:

2007 - Okoye, Jones, Bennett, Studdard, Diles
2006 - Mario, Demeco, Captain Caveman (Winston!), Owen Daniels
2005 - TJ, Mathis, CC Brown
2004 - Dunta, Anderson
2003 - AJ
2002 - Pitts, Weary, Faggins

Did I miss anybody?

2003 and 2004 - bust years...


http://www.drafthistory.com/teams/texans.html


Knock youself out.

threetoedpete
09-01-2007, 09:16 PM
2003s 1 2 0 0 Tony Hollings RB Georgia Tech
2003 1 1 3 3 Andre Johnson WR Miami (FL)
2 2 9 41 Ben Joppru TE Michigan
3 3 3 67 Antwan Peek LB Cincinnati
4 3 11 75 Seth Wand T Northwest Missouri State
5 3 24 88 Dave Ragone QB Louisville
6 4 4 101 Domanick Davis RB Louisiana State
7 6 19 192 Drew Henson QB Michigan
8 6 41 214 Keith Wright DT Missouri
9 7 3 217 Curry Burns DB Louisville
10 7 19 233 Chance Pearce C Texas A&M
2002s 1 6 0 0 Milford Brown G Florida State
2002 1 1 1 1 David Carr QB Fresno State
2 2 1 33 Jabar Gaffney WR Florida
3 2 18 50 Chester Pitts G San Diego State
4 3 1 66 Fred Weary C Tennessee
5 3 18 83 Charles Hill DT Maryland
6 4 1 99 Jonathan Wells RB Ohio State
7 5 1 136 Jarrod Baxter RB New Mexico
8 5 18 153 Ramone Walker DB Pittsburgh
9 6 1 173 Howard Faggins DB Kansas State
10 6 18 190 Howard Green DT Louisiana State
11 7 18 229 Greg White DE Minnesota
12 7 50 261 Ahmad Miller DT UNLV

Texans Horror
09-01-2007, 10:20 PM
These are the guys who are either IR, PUP, or no longer on the team.
Round Draft No. Name Position University

2007
5 144 Brandon Harrison DB Stanford*
5 163 Brandon Frye OT Virginia Tech
2006
3 65 Charles Spencer T Pittsburgh*
6 170 Wali Lundy RB Virginia
7 251 David Anderson WR Colorado State
2005
3 73 Vernand Morency RB Oklahoma State
5 151 Drew Hodgdon C Arizona State
7 227 Kenneth Pettway LB Grambling State
2004
1 27 Jason Babin OLB Western Michigan
4 122 Glenn Earl SS Notre Dame*
6 170 Vontez Duff CB Notre Dame
6 175 Jammal Lord DB Nebraska
7 210 Raheem Orr DE Rutgers
7 211 Sloan Thomas WR Texas
7 248 B.J. Symons QB Texas Tech
2003
2 41 Bennie Joppru TE Michigan
3 67 Antwan Peek LB Cincinnati
3 75 Seth Wand T Northwest Missouri State
3 88 Dave Ragone QB Louisville
4 101 Domanick Williams RB Louisiana State
6 192 Drew Henson QB Michigan
6 214 Keith Wright DT Missouri
7 217 Curry Burns DB Louisville
7 233 Chance Pearce -- Texas A&M
2002
1 1 David Carr QB Fresno State
2 33 Jabar Gaffney WR Florida
3 83 Charles Hill NT Maryland
4 99 Jonathan Wells RB Ohio State
5 136 Jarrod Baxter FB New Mexico
5 153 Ramon Walker DB Pittsburgh
6 190 Howard Green DT Louisiana State
7 229 Greg White DE Minnesota
7 261 Ahmad Miller -- Nevada-Las Vegas

* - IR/PUP
That's a lot of football players...

What I take from it:
1. This is a "why the Texans have fallen on hard times" argument, but that's 18 drafted and currently playing compared to 33 not playing. 18 out of 51, if my math serves me right. That's not a productive draft or development.
2. The Texans are lousy in the third round. Hopefully Jones breaks the mold, but I am really surprised at how many third-rounders either haven't panned out or are having trouble (Spencer, Morency, Peek, Wand, Ragone, Hill).
3. It's hard to make the team when you are a fifth, sixth, or seventh-rounder. All the more reason to appreciate Faggins' and Brown's ability and at the same time see it as a sign of the weakness of the defensive secondary (i.e., why Babin needed to be traded).
4. I gotta bang the drum for Studdard. It's impressive that the sixth-rounder has lasted this long, but he had a good preseason, is becoming a fan favorite, and is a Longhorn...:)

BattleRedToro
09-01-2007, 10:38 PM
Does anyone think the Texans might pick up Josh Gattis?

The Pencil Neck
09-01-2007, 10:56 PM
Does anyone think the Texans might pick up Josh Gattis?

I'm thinking we might try.

BattleRedToro
09-02-2007, 10:09 AM
What about ex Seattle/Green Bay Safety Marquand Manuel? He was cut by Green Bay yesterday. Does anyone know anything about him?