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Wolf
08-31-2007, 05:23 PM
Faggins, Demarcus
Bennett, Fred
Robinson, Dunta
Fletcher, Jamar
Hutchins, Von
Harrison, Brandon
Wynn, Dexter
Simmons, Jason
Brown, C.C.
Boulware,Michael


*earl is out*

http://www.nfl.com/teams/houstontexans/roster?team=HOU

I am going by this roster and with the cuts today.

It doesn't seem right for I think I am missing someone and/or didn't drop someone.

I am trying to sort out what this group is going to look like

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depthchart.html
link not updated yet as I post

but I feel a little better with

Robinson,boulware,brown,Faggins


if that is how this plays out I like our run stopping ability with R and B

TheRealJoker
08-31-2007, 05:35 PM
That doesn't look pretty :(

The Pencil Neck
08-31-2007, 05:40 PM
That looks like it.

Wolf
08-31-2007, 05:43 PM
That doesn't look pretty :(

sure doesn't outside of D-rob... but hopefully with all the investment we have in our D-line, we can shorten their time in coverage.

Matt
08-31-2007, 05:48 PM
sure doesn't outside of D-rob... but hopefully with all the investment we have in our D-line, we can shorten their time in coverage.

That is definitely the key. Hell, I don't know of too many secondaries that can cover indefinitely. If we are getting a good push up front and shortening throwing time, even Faggins can look good in coverage for < 44 seconds.

Matt
08-31-2007, 05:49 PM
Oh, and I am bummed that Mitchell didn't make it. He outplayed Harrison throughout the preseason.

Wolf
09-01-2007, 05:52 PM
well boulware is added now

40 tackles 2 ints

http://search.espn.go.com/keyword/search?searchString=michael+boulware&Find=Search&source=b_sports

babin 26 tackles 5 sacks


in 2006

Wolf
09-02-2007, 01:06 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depthchart.html

link not updated yet as I post

but I feel a little better with

Robinson,boulware,brown,Faggins


if that is how this plays out I like our run stopping ability with R and B


we still need help though but on paper it looks alittle better

J-Russ
09-02-2007, 01:10 PM
Are we playing with the "liberty White" unis this week? That would explain why the site is all white now.

vtech9
09-02-2007, 01:16 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depthchart.html

link not updated yet as I post

but I feel a little better with

Robinson,boulware,brown,Faggins


if that is how this plays out I like our run stopping ability with R and B


we still need help though but on paper it looks alittle better

I would rather see Faggins used as the nickel-back, and have Bennet start at the 2nd corner. Bennet might make some mistakes to begin with, but I think he will still be better than Faggins as the starter.

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2007, 01:16 PM
Well, Babins is gone from the depth chart. But... Abbate and Harrison are still on there. Boulware isn't. And shouldn't Spencer be off, too.

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2007, 01:17 PM
I would rather see Faggins used as the nickel-back, and have Bennet start at the 2nd corner. Bennet might make some mistakes to begin with, but I think he will still be better than Faggins as the starter.

I think you'll see that by mid-year.

Leahmic223
09-02-2007, 01:21 PM
I think looking at the secondary is too early. I really don't know what to expect from them or the Dline. I just know our LBs can hold it up, if the Dline starts to play like they get paid then it'll make things easier for the secondary and I know that is what everything depends on this year.

I think our whole defense depends on the Dline performing. There is just too much potential and money tied into that area for them to continue to fail. I am happy Travis got the start, I think he may break out this year....or I hope.:texflag:

J-Russ
09-02-2007, 01:21 PM
I would rather see Faggins used as the nickel-back, and have Bennet start at the 2nd corner. Bennet might make some mistakes to begin with, but I think he will still be better than Faggins as the starter.

No he wouldn't, not right now. If you watched those pre-season games, he was burned occasionally by 2nd and 3rd stringers. I still remember the Chicago when the Bears QB was throwing his to his side the whole time he was out there, not once could he stop them. Not to mention, he is a worst tackler then Faggins is, which is saying alot. He just isn't ready right now.

vtech9
09-02-2007, 01:31 PM
No he wouldn't, not right now. If you watched those pre-season games, he was burned occasionally by 2nd and 3rd stringers. I still remember the Chicago when the Bears QB was throwing his to his side the whole time he was out there, not once could he stop them. Not to mention, he is a worst tackler then Faggins is, which is saying alot. He just isn't ready right now.

How about the times that the opposing offense had a 3rd and 8 (or similar) with Faggins on the field? The WR would run a curl pattern just past the 1st down marker, and since Faggins was playing 10 yards off the WR, it was an easy 1st down every time. Like I said, Bennet will make mistakes to begin with, but I think he will still be better at shutting down the opposing WR's.

J-Russ
09-02-2007, 01:46 PM
How about starting him when hes ready to start and when he actually learns how to tackle and not get burned every play hes out there. How is it a good thing to throw him out to the lions and he get eaten up every play? Thats the kind of stuff that destory a kids confidence.

If you think he gives us a better chance to win over Faggins then you're wrong.

As for who should start opposite of D-Rob, it should be Fletcher. He looked like really good in pre-season, he made more plays and tackle better then either Faggins or Bennet.

TheRealJoker
09-02-2007, 01:47 PM
9/1 Akin Ayodele cut.
Martin Gramatica Placed on IR.
Jerheme Urban cut.
Aaron Glenn cut.
Joey Thomas cut.
Quincy Butler cut.
Adam Bergen cut.
Trey Darilek cut.
Damarius Bilbo cut.
Matt Tarullo cut.
Khari Long cut.
Lousaka Polite cut.
Junior Glymph cut.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/dallascowboys/transactions?team=DAL

Who thinks we should bring AG back to Houston to finish mentoring DRob?

threetoedpete
09-02-2007, 01:52 PM
9/1 Akin Ayodele cut.
Martin Gramatica Placed on IR.
Jerheme Urban cut.
Aaron Glenn cut.
Joey Thomas cut.
Quincy Butler cut.
Adam Bergen cut.
Trey Darilek cut.
Damarius Bilbo cut.
Matt Tarullo cut.
Khari Long cut.
Lousaka Polite cut.
Junior Glymph cut.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/dallascowboys/transactions?team=DAL

Who thinks we should bring AG back to Houston to finish mentoring DRob?


Better qestions are who are you going to cut to fit him in ? Who are you going to sit to play him.

I dunno Tuna stuck three years on to the end of the guys career. Thirteen years is a prety good run for anyone. I don't care . I like getting younger rather than older myself.

Plus I dunno, but it looks to me that they are prety much purging the CC clan from the rooster. I doubt they do an about face now.

vtech9
09-02-2007, 01:52 PM
How about starting him when hes ready to start and when he actually learns how to tackle and not get burned every play hes out there. How is it a good thing to throw him out to the lions and he get eaten up every play? Thats the kind of stuff that destory a kids confidence.

If you think he gives us a better chance to win over Faggins then you're wrong.

As for who should start opposite of D-Rob, it should be Fletcher. He looked like really good in pre-season, he made more plays and tackle better then either Faggins or Bennet.

In all honesty, I think YOU are wrong, but that's just my opinion.

J-Russ
09-02-2007, 02:10 PM
In all honesty, I think YOU are wrong, but that's just my opinion.

Yeah, care to explain why?

From this past game
Pass Defense
It was hard to get the number since the tacklers weren't often in the picture but allowing 314 yards, 17 first downs and four scores through the air surely can't be comforting for Defensive Coordinator Richard Smith as he figures out who to keep and who to cut for next week.

link: http://www.houstonprofootball.com/game/2007/pre04.html

I looked through the play by plays and noticed that Bennett played all four quarter. Now I didn't watched the game, so can someone who did tell me which CB they were throwing at most of the time and If Bennet start at CB the whole game?

vtech9
09-02-2007, 02:28 PM
How about the times that the opposing offense had a 3rd and 8 (or similar) with Faggins on the field? The WR would run a curl pattern just past the 1st down marker, and since Faggins was playing 10 yards off the WR, it was an easy 1st down every time. Like I said, Bennet will make mistakes to begin with, but I think he will still be better at shutting down the opposing WR's.

Yeah, care to explain why?

From this past game


link: http://www.houstonprofootball.com/game/2007/pre04.html

I looked through the play by plays and noticed that Bennett played all four quarter. Now I didn't watched the game, so can someone who did tell me which CB they were throwing at most of the time and If Bennet start at CB the whole game?

Why? Because of the 10-yard cushion that Faggins gives everybody. Because of the years of watching Faggins play. Faggins is a good nickel-back, but he is NOT a shut down corner. With the cushion that Faggins gives WR's, even David Carr could have a career day.