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Errant Hothy
08-30-2007, 10:01 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2007-08-30-shield-change_N.htm

The league is creating a leaner, meaner version of the iconic logo that will debut at the NFL draft in April, 2008. The revamped shield will be slightly taller and thinner, with a new football, fewer stars and darker colors, says Lisa Baird, the NFL's senior vice president of marketing. The redesign marks the first changes to the shield since 1980.

At the NFL's annual meeting this spring, commissioner Roger Goodell talked about the NFL Shield as the "envy of the sports world." The league has been careful to make an "evolutionary, not a radical change," says Baird.

•The new shield features eight stars (representing the eight AFC and NFC divisions) vs. 25 on the current logo. Why 25? It's a mystery. After researching the shield's origins, the designers could find no reason for 25 stars, says Jaime Weston, director of brand and creative operations. The shield logo was first used around 1940, two decades after the NFL's founding in 1920.

• The football at the center has been redesigned to resemble the ball atop the Vince Lombardi championship trophy, says Baird. It replaces the old-fashioned pigskin nicknamed the "Hamburger" inside league offices.

•NFL vendors will probably thank the league for switching to fewer stars. Some vendors, without permission, have used fewer stars rather than shoehorning 25 tiny stars into smaller shields on hats and T-shirts.

gwallaia
08-30-2007, 10:08 PM
I don't like this, I don't like this at all.

Showtime100
08-30-2007, 10:09 PM
My first reaction was I thought it was a mistake, but after reading on it seems they might actually make it better without destroying the general look.

As long as the change isn't too radical.

Errant Hothy
08-30-2007, 10:10 PM
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2007/08/30/shield3-large.jpg

Showtime100
08-30-2007, 10:15 PM
Yeah, I just went and looked, you wouldn't know the difference until somebody pointed it out.

mexican_texan
08-30-2007, 10:18 PM
I've actually been expecting it for a few years now.

gg no re
08-30-2007, 10:34 PM
it makes sense

JohnsonFan
08-30-2007, 10:41 PM
.....not cool nfl not cool

mexican_texan
08-30-2007, 10:42 PM
•NFL vendors will probably thank the league for switching to fewer stars. Some vendors, without permission, have used fewer stars rather than shoehorning 25 tiny stars into smaller shields on hats and T-shirts.
Looks like a Tagliabue decision...

JohnsonFan
08-30-2007, 10:44 PM
well i guess my jerseys will be considerd "old school" now lol! tight!

TexanSam
08-30-2007, 10:54 PM
I don't like this, I don't like this at all.

.....not cool nfl not cool

What's wrong with changing the logo? There isn't much of a difference.

I never did realize that the stars on the NFL logo on caps and shirts and stuff has only 19 stars. At least on mine it does.

TxDavid
08-31-2007, 12:48 AM
I honestly would not have noticed. They probably could have said nothing about it and just did it. I'm sure the media would have caught it after a while, and Madden would do a chalk comparison on them.

WiiBrawler
08-31-2007, 08:06 AM
I like it. Looks cleaner and the 8 stars make sense.

Hervoyel
08-31-2007, 09:52 AM
I can live with this. I long ago gave up the hope that some things in this world simply wouldn't change. Now I'm just relieved when they don't screw something I love up.

It is not a travesty and so I'm content.

Errant Hothy
08-31-2007, 09:54 AM
No joke. Does anyone really care? Who pays attention to that kind of stuff anyways?

Sorry, Hoth. Eventually, the ax will fall.

No worries, I came across the article while on another board and was a little surprised that nobodyhad mentioned it here.

Double Barrel
08-31-2007, 10:29 AM
I approve... Just because the football looks better. Plus now the stars mean something.

I agree. The new logo looks better to me, too.

Showtime100
08-31-2007, 10:43 AM
I can live with this. I long ago gave up the hope that some things in this world simply wouldn't change. Now I'm just relieved when they don't screw something I love up.

It is not a travesty and so I'm content.

I'm with you there. When I saw "logo change" I had fears of those stupid robo-football players like the ones on CBS on the logo.

dskillz
08-31-2007, 10:43 AM
I like it. A bit more sleek and as the article says, the stars mean something as does the positioning of the football.

powerfuldragon
08-31-2007, 11:56 AM
doesn't effect me.

Mr teX
08-31-2007, 12:33 PM
Ehh, it's not that much different from the original..:shrug:

TexanSam
08-31-2007, 12:39 PM
I didn't know the NFL shield was the envy of the sports world. I always thought the NBA logo was the coolest.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/MajorLeagueBaseball.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/43/National_Basketball_Association_logo.png

gg no re
08-31-2007, 01:05 PM
Just want to point out that I always saw the MLB logo as a guy about to get beaned.

Brando
08-31-2007, 01:09 PM
I agree. The new logo looks better to me, too.

Ditto.

Ole Miss Texan
08-31-2007, 01:43 PM
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2007/08/30/shield3-large.jpg

People will always be against change, myself included. I didn't have any problem with the old/current shield. However I do like the new design. I like keeping with tradition but the new shield looks crisp and clean.

Sometimes changing things can be a slippery slope and hope that things don't get out of control. what's next, they change the NBA BALL? oh wait a minute...

Wolf
08-31-2007, 03:37 PM
I didn't know the NFL shield was the envy of the sports world. I always thought the NBA logo was the coolest.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/MajorLeagueBaseball.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/43/National_Basketball_Association_logo.png

I like the NBA logo

signed,
Jerry West

on a side note I am suprised the NBA hasn't changed to to a guy with bat ears (ala Michael Jordan)

Brando
03-30-2008, 01:22 PM
Bump.

The new logo will debut at the NFL draft in April.

Fox
03-30-2008, 03:24 PM
I'm a fan of the new shield. Looks cool and it's design has more significance.

Giant Tiger
03-30-2008, 03:30 PM
I'm a fan of the new shield. Looks cool and it's design has more significance.

Agreed. I always wondered why the number of stars didn't equal the number of teams. :cool:

TexansSeminole
03-30-2008, 03:37 PM
The less-busy logo will also show up better on "third screens" increasingly used by sports fans: cellphones, laptops, iPods and PDAs.

This is probably a big reason for the change. It will also show up better on cheaper printers.

ObsiWan
03-30-2008, 10:44 PM
I didn't know the NFL shield was the envy of the sports world. I always thought the NBA logo was the coolest.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/MajorLeagueBaseball.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/43/National_Basketball_Association_logo.png

I was hoping for something more along these lines or like the NBA logo. The new logo isn't much different than the old one.
Typical NFL, the more they try to change the more they stay the same. Its still the No Fun League.

ObsiWan
03-30-2008, 10:48 PM
Agreed. I always wondered why the number of stars didn't equal the number of teams. :cool:

Now the number of stars equals the number of divisions. To make them more meaningful they should position the stars at the main compass points. You know, North - South - East - West; same as the divisions in each conference.

TxDavid
03-30-2008, 10:51 PM
I like the new logo. The football looks like a football instead of a hamburger.

Hook'er
03-30-2008, 11:00 PM
I like it.:texflag:

CloakNNNdagger
03-30-2008, 11:29 PM
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2007/08/30/shield3-large.jpg

As the product improves, the logo must reflect such. The change in the football position reminds me of the ratings of porno movie reviews............in a couple more years, I expect the football to be fully erect.:backsout:

SheTexan
03-30-2008, 11:33 PM
I like the old one better. Personal opinion.

Texan_Bill
03-31-2008, 09:20 AM
There are obvious differences, but not so drastic that I can say one is 'better' than the others..

Polo
03-31-2008, 09:23 AM
I bet most people won't even notice...

Double Barrel
03-31-2008, 12:34 PM
Its still the No Fun League.

I don't get this attitude. Do you want them to go WWF in football?!

I have a blast at every game I go to, obviously some more than others when we win, but overall, the NFL is a fun sport to watch and be a part of.

So rules make it "no fun"? Seriously, I don't know what people want to do to the league to make it FUN. Perhaps making the QBs wear big, red clown noses would appeal to you?

Texan_Bill
03-31-2008, 12:39 PM
Once Jerry Glanville said "No Fun League", I vowed not to use the slogan...But then again, maybe he said "Not For Long"..... Can't really remember, but either way I agree with DB. Going to the games is one of my favorite sporting events.

Wins ARE better, but I have had good times during the losses too.

Lucky
03-31-2008, 12:41 PM
Perhaps making the QBs wear big, red clown noses would appeal to you?
No, I'm content with the Mickey Mouse gloves.

http://media.charlotteobserver.com/smedia/2007/09/23/23/309-Panthers_Falcons_01.slideshow_main.prod_affiliate. 57.JPG

Dread-Head
03-31-2008, 12:44 PM
I don't like this, I don't like this at all.

Howard Johnson is right!
Mel Brooks: Blazing Sadles

Second Honeymoon
03-31-2008, 01:37 PM
I have no problem with this. It's pretty much the same logo just a little simpler and less flair.

ObsiWan
04-03-2008, 09:54 AM
I don't get this attitude. Do you want them to go WWF in football?!

I have a blast at every game I go to, obviously some more than others when we win, but overall, the NFL is a fun sport to watch and be a part of.

So rules make it "no fun"? Seriously, I don't know what people want to do to the league to make it FUN. Perhaps making the QBs wear big, red clown noses would appeal to you?

I wouldn't know anything about the WWF since I've never, ever watched it.

But I do know that the endzone celebrations used to be fun. You probably don't remember the funky chicken dance that Billy White shoes used to do or the Redskins funbunch celebration - even the linemen would get in on that. But noooooo... not in today's modern day NFL. Now Chad Johnson and T.O. go over the top but hey, if you don't like it, keep 'em out of the endzone.

They fine guys if their shirts aren't tucked in or if their socks aren't at the right height or if they toss the ball up in the stands...
Now they want guys to cut their long hair because it might obscure their name. B@LLSH!T!
That's just another means of control.

And speaking of QBs, they have that silly-@$$ "In-the-grasp" rule so they won't get hurt. They're part of the game just like any other player. Act like it. I agree with Jack Lambert. They oughta put skirts on 'em.


okay... end of :soapbox: period. sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.

You may resume your regularly scheduled message-boarding.
:texan:

Double Barrel
04-03-2008, 04:18 PM
But I do know that the endzone celebrations used to be fun. You probably don't remember the funky chicken dance that Billy White shoes used to do or the Redskins funbunch celebration - even the linemen would get in on that. But noooooo... not in today's modern day NFL. Now Chad Johnson and T.O. go over the top but hey, if you don't like it, keep 'em out of the endzone.

'eh, to each his own, I suppose. I go to watch football, so everything else is secondary (including tailgating). I could honestly care less about celebrations, either way (and yes, I vividly remember Whiteshoes). Pro football - the game - is very fun to watch, and that's all that really concerns me.

I think the logic behind the NFL's policy is that this is a team sport, not one of individuals. They could be perceived as being anal about things, but I would rather see them promote professionalism over sensationalism at the end of the day.

Obviously, their policy is working, because the NFL is the biggest game around and it's getting bigger. :)

HoustonFrog
04-03-2008, 04:24 PM
Better late than never...............

I like the new look and think it is funny they called the old football the "hamburger" after viewing it again.

Lucky
04-03-2008, 04:41 PM
That's just another means of control.

And speaking of QBs, they have that silly-@$$ "In-the-grasp" rule so they won't get hurt.
Well, they are in control. Owens & Johnson are free to start a new league with all the end zone celebrations they want. At least you will be watching.

BTW, there's no longer an "In-the-grasp" rule. If there was, the David Tyree helmet catch would not have counted, as Eli was certainly in the grasp of Patriot defenders prior to the pass.

HoustonFrog
04-03-2008, 04:45 PM
Well, they are in control. Owens & Johnson are free to start a new league with all the end zone celebrations they want. At least you will be watching.

BTW, there's no longer an "In-the-grasp" rule. If there was, the David Tyree helmet catch would not have counted, as Eli was certainly in the grasp of Patriot defenders prior to the pass.

Some of the Patriot D-lineman were in the grasp too:)

GuerillaBlack
04-03-2008, 04:54 PM
The new one wins.

Txn_in_FL
04-03-2008, 05:09 PM
The season needs to start...

NOW!!!

Three pages discussing a new logo?

:headhurts:

GuerillaBlack
04-03-2008, 05:24 PM
The season needs to start...

NOW!!!

Three pages discussing a new logo?

:headhurts:

Half of the thread is from 2007.