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Spike
08-26-2007, 01:48 AM
I just got done watching the first three quarters on DVR. This game was a really good game for the Texans and, although a pre-season game, a good measure of where this team stands. Almost everyone agrees that the Cowboys are a team that could go deep into the play-offs and we flat out beat them tonight.

(1) QB- I think we have seen enough of Schaub to know that he is everything that Carr wasn't. You have to love his pocket presence. He made one quick throw in particular where a defensive player cut through the line (for what looked like a for sure sack) and he zipped the ball right to the fullback. He doesn't seem to get rattled in the pocket and knows exactly where the ball needs to go when the pressure comes. The most impressive thing I saw from him tonight was taking the offense back on the field after two unimpressive series (the second ending with a sack) and get the offense back on track. If he can do that when it matters, he will gain the confidence of his teammates - which is something that this offense hasn't ever had. Sage is the perfect second string QB.
(2) RB - Green looked heads and shoulders better than he has looked so far this pre-season. I think he will be solid for us this year and his biggest asset seems to be his understanding of the system. Dayne looks solid and I see Gado taking the third spot. I'll miss the potential of Taylor this season.
(3) FB - We haven't seen much this off-season, but we know what we have.
(4) TE - Am I a homer to think that Daniels could be a pro-bowl TE? He did drop a ball tonight, but that seems to be the exception to the rule. OD consistently makes tough catches and is a playmaker for us. Putzier has looked good this offseason as well.
- I haven't seen much of Bruener this off-season, but haven't been looking. Any chance that he does not make the cut?
(5) WR - What were we all so worried about? We have a pro-bowl receiver in AJ. Walter looked really good tonight making some nice catches and is a legit possession type receiver. I don't think he has done anything to lose the starting spot, but I think Jacoby might have played so well that it may be hard not to give it to him. I have admitted before that I was not a fan of the Jacoby pick - and I was wrong. He is just a solid athelete whose confidence as a football player seems to grow play-to-play. Reports from camp were that he struggled with consistency, but I have seen him make some tough catches the last two weeks. I think Jacoby could have a major impact on the offense this year. I see Andre Davis as the fourth option and think Mathis did enough this off-season to take the 5th spot.
- Do we save a roster spot for McCardell?
(5) OL - I think the OL is going to be good enough. I still sense a lot of pressure (can't tell from where), but with the right QB, the line doesn't look near as poor as it has in the past. In addition, as the offense in general is able to keep things moving and generate some momentum, Kubiak is going to have more of a chance to change things up to keep defenses honest - as opposed to constantly attacking the QB, which will take some pressure off the line as well.
(6) DL - I think we look solid against the run, but we still can't seem to get enough pressure on the pass. Mario looked much better tonight. I think he looks more comfortable on the left side, but I liked seeing him get moved around. I don't know - but I just feel like if he can make or play or two, some of that pressure will be lifted and he will just break-out. Weaver is still due back which will be a boost to the line with talent and leadership. I can't tell enough about the play of DT, but I haven't seen Amobi do much.
- What about Johnson and Maddox starting at DT, with Amobi coming in?
(7) LB - DeMeco seems to be on about 80% of the stops that I see and he should continue to get better. I think Danny Clark has solidified himself a starting spot and I feel good about our depth.
(8) DB - Dunta looked like a pro-bowl caliber CB tonight, but the rest of the backfield did not look that solid to me. Is it me, or are we better off when we are in a third and short situation than third and long? Some of this may be on the DL for not getting enough pressure, but I just don't think we have the talent back there right now.
(9) Special Teams - Solid. Our kick/ punt returns will be a huge asset to this team.

All in all, I think the offense looks better than I thought they would at this point, but the defense doesn't look as good as I thought that they might. I do think that both units played well against a good Dallas team and with so many young players on the field, there is good reason to believe that we see a lot of improvement as the season goes on.

eriadoc
08-26-2007, 01:56 AM
Regardless of pass rush, our secondary looked pretty bad tonight, aside from DRob. I saw players leave their zone responsibility, get crossed up on routes, and flat out get beat way too often. I am seriously beginning to become the anti-fan of Faggins. The guy has gotten a pass from me, and many other fans, because I think we all view him as a nickel back playing a starter's role. But his coverage skills weren't as good last year as they had been in the past, IMO, and he's picking up right where he left off last year. I am not encouraged. The safety play is about the same - they hit hard, but can't cover very well. The hit tonight from Jason Simmons is why I love the guy, but his coverage is why I've said all along he shouldn't be a starter. There were a couple times that a lack of pass rush left the secondary out in the cold, but there were more times where the secondary just sucked.

Regardless, we won, so I am happy. If the D can continue to stop the run, we may end up in some pretty unusual (for Texans, anyway) defensive situations, which might help things along. Bennett made a nice INT and it was actually a really nice play on the ball. If he continues to show that, he'll take the #2 CB job (*crosses fingers*).

Travis Johnson had a nice game as well. He kind of did the old Seth Payne routine, taking up two blockers and making room for the LB corps.

quicksilver
08-26-2007, 02:07 AM
Well done!

You bring up Bruener's lack of visibility, and wonder if there's a spot for McCardell considering how our young receivers are doing. I will add that Poole, McCleon, and (though I love the guy from his days with the Rams) Zgonina haven't shown us much at all on the field. Now, I'm certain that these veterans have been a terrific asset in showing all the young guys on this team the right way to approach the game, and surely they've taught the tactics of their positions. However, if they're not showing enough to make the rotation at their positions, are we going to keep them on the team? And if we don't, will the loss of veteran presence result in a diminution of the intangibles they've brought to the table?

This situation causes me concern.

YoungTexanFan
08-26-2007, 02:26 AM
Regardless of pass rush, our secondary looked pretty bad tonight, aside from DRob. I saw players leave their zone responsibility, get crossed up on routes, and flat out get beat way too often. I am seriously beginning to become the anti-fan of Faggins. The guy has gotten a pass from me, and many other fans, because I think we all view him as a nickel back playing a starter's role. But his coverage skills weren't as good last year as they had been in the past, IMO, and he's picking up right where he left off last year. I am not encouraged. The safety play is about the same - they hit hard, but can't cover very well. The hit tonight from Jason Simmons is why I love the guy, but his coverage is why I've said all along he shouldn't be a starter. There were a couple times that a lack of pass rush left the secondary out in the cold, but there were more times where the secondary just sucked.

Regardless, we won, so I am happy. If the D can continue to stop the run, we may end up in some pretty unusual (for Texans, anyway) defensive situations, which might help things along. Bennett made a nice INT and it was actually a really nice play on the ball. If he continues to show that, he'll take the #2 CB job (*crosses fingers*).

Travis Johnson had a nice game as well. He kind of did the old Seth Payne routine, taking up two blockers and making room for the LB corps.

I have been probally the biggest anti-Faggins person on these MB's for the past 2 years. I cannot stand the guy. He is not a NFL calibur player. He makes me so mad. He at one point seemed to be a slightly below average NB, but now he is not even that. I have been calling for his head to roll for 2 full seasons now. You can be member #2 to the "Anti-Faggins Club", but I started that wagon rolling a while ago.

eriadoc
08-26-2007, 02:48 AM
I have been probally the biggest anti-Faggins person on these MB's for the past 2 years. I cannot stand the guy. He is not a NFL calibur player. He makes me so mad. He at one point seemed to be a slightly below average NB, but now he is not even that. I have been calling for his head to roll for 2 full seasons now. You can be member #2 to the "Anti-Faggins Club", but I started that wagon rolling a while ago.

Well, sign me up. There was a thread last week talking about how he doesn't hold up against the run, but his coverage was good, and I was just thinking, "Huh?!?"

HJam72
08-26-2007, 03:12 AM
I never liked Faggins as a starter, but I still think he can play the nickel. This is getting back to my wanting Darryl Revis in the draft.

Vinny
08-26-2007, 03:45 AM
It was Brown that had the poor angle and support on the Faggins chase play on the Owens TD....fwiw

real
08-26-2007, 04:53 AM
Not sure who you guys want to play instead of Faggins....Maybe Bennett if he can grow a whole lot during this season.....

Personally I'd like for Greenwood to get replaced...

HJam72
08-26-2007, 05:00 AM
I don't know, but I'm just thinking about the draft next year (not that I don't have high hopes for this year).

ObsiWan
08-26-2007, 08:54 AM
Not sure who you guys want to play instead of Faggins....Maybe Bennett if he can grow a whole lot during this season.....

Personally I'd like for Greenwood to get replaced...

First things first.
Greenwood will do until we find a FS and a #2 CB. Sorry if he doesn't make enough ESPY-type hits for you. I would have thought that Barber would have pushed him but apparently not. I have a feeling that Zac Diles may have his spot before too very long.

ObsiWan
08-26-2007, 08:56 AM
Oh and cut all the O-linemen. We gave up a sack.

HotRodsHair
08-26-2007, 09:29 AM
Oh and cut all the O-linemen. We gave up a sack.

It's hard to get a sense of where the line breaks down from the regular camera angle, but the couple of times that guys got smacked in the backfield they showed close ups, and two times that I remember Winston completely missed the plays. Both times the guys went wide of him and he completely ignored them, letting them run free. Of course, his side was the strong side in the running game.

HotRodsHair
08-26-2007, 09:40 AM
(4) TE - Am I a homer to think that Daniels could be a pro-bowl TE? He did drop a ball tonight, but that seems to be the exception to the rule. OD consistently makes tough catches and is a playmaker for us. Putzier has looked good this offseason as well.
- I haven't seen much of Bruener this off-season, but haven't been looking. Any chance that he does not make the cut?


Now, I am a big Washington Husky fan, so I probably will defend Bruener more staunchly than someone else, but I see no way he gets cut. He is the big blocking TE who plays like an extra tackle.

Last season he had 9 catches for 62 yards and 2 TD's. Not flashy numbers, but enough to ensure the defense has to account for him despite his being known as a blocking TE.

Malloy
08-26-2007, 09:46 AM
Good post Spike, thanks!

Being able to watch the highlights only I, like many others, loved the JJ return and catch, but the one play I like the most (that was featured on the highlights thingie) were AJ's TD, I'm not sure what that defender was, but AJ tackled him into the end zone. Sweet :)

whiskeyrbl
08-26-2007, 10:02 AM
Excellent post!!
My favorite replay was the "To Old" Ahman Green breaking tackles and tearing off a 46 yard run. It was even sweeter from my seat in Reliant,although I was not sitting when he broke into the open.:fans:

HoustonFrog
08-26-2007, 10:07 AM
(1) QB- I think we have seen enough of Schaub to know that he is everything that Carr wasn't. You have to love his pocket presence. He made one quick throw in particular where a defensive player cut through the line (for what looked like a for sure sack) and he zipped the ball right to the fullback. He doesn't seem to get rattled in the pocket and knows exactly where the ball needs to go when the pressure comes. The most impressive thing I saw from him tonight was taking the offense back on the field after two unimpressive series (the second ending with a sack) and get the offense back on track. If he can do that when it matters, he will gain the confidence of his teammates - which is something that this offense hasn't ever had. Sage is the perfect second string QB.
(2) RB - Green looked heads and shoulders better than he has looked so far this pre-season. I think he will be solid for us this year and his biggest asset seems to be his understanding of the system. Dayne looks solid and I see Gado taking the third spot. I'll miss the potential of Taylor this season.

Well said

YoungTexanFan
08-26-2007, 11:03 AM
It was Brown that had the poor angle and support on the Faggins chase play on the Owens TD....fwiw

I do not get the game coverage up here, but I can easily believe that as well. I have been against CC starting at FS since the move was announced, but so have a boatload of other people. I think this just points to the overall bad state of our secondary.

quicksilver
08-26-2007, 11:12 AM
I don't see how we can continue to play Brown at FS. For every play he makes, it seems he gets burnt twice. Surely Von Hutchins can do better than that.

HJam72
08-26-2007, 12:20 PM
I don't see how we can continue to play Brown at FS. For every play he makes, it seems he gets burnt twice. Surely Von Hutchins can do better than that.

I didn't (or couldn't) pay much attention to Brown on TV, but I have generally agreed with that statement.

DocBar
08-26-2007, 12:24 PM
Von Hutchins at FS and Bennett at #2 CB? Bennett seems to have good instincts for the position and the ball.

Fox
08-26-2007, 12:24 PM
Our corners are alright, Faggins will get burned every now and then, but Dunta is solid and Fletcher has been making plays in coverage. The problem, IMO, is our safeties. With Brown and Simmons back there we're going to give up some huge passing plays this year.

Texans Horror
08-26-2007, 01:06 PM
It's amazing what time in the league can do for players. With Babin and Dunta coming into their third year, they are looking like solid players. Dunta especially is starting to look like the kind of player the Texans organization anticipated when they drafted him.

I liked seeing tackles from Travis Johnson, Okoye, Demeco, and Mario. TJ in particular continues to impress me with his run-stopping skills, and Okoye showed me a flash or two of what he can do.

Green has added a new dimension to the Texans offense. Stay healthy, AG!!!! I like The guards pulling. Chester and Weary are opening up that little seam that Green needs.

On the other hand, there are some aspects of play that worry me. Romo had too much time to sit back and fire them off to his receivers. With the Texans defensive secondary as inept as it is (Dunta isn't the only player back there), this could be the thing that kills the defense. The front four just aren't pressuring the quarterback. If they continue to not put pressure, this is going to be a long season.

The o-line. Sorry, but I'm still not impressed. It's part scheming, but the pass protection doesn't look any better, IMO. Salaam is still getting played, and Winston is still looking like a rookie. The defensive charge up the middle is also getting them.

So basically the team looks much improved in areas it was decent at last year. The nadirs of the Texans continue to be o-line and defensive secondary.

TK_Gamer
08-26-2007, 01:53 PM
So basically the team looks much improved in areas it was decent at last year. The nadirs of the Texans continue to be o-line and defensive secondary.

My thoughts exactly. My only hope is that as far as the O-line goes, Schaub's quick decisions save the day enough to keep the sack numbers down, and the unit continues to learn and improve but without the disdain they recieved during or previous QB.

As far as the secondary goes, I see it this way. Petey needs to stick with the nickel position where he is covering a tight end or back. His coverage ability is so weak, and he doesnt have the speed to pursue or make up space.

CC Brown STILL sucks in coverage and looks lost half the time. He continues to play the man and not the ball, wich is gonna cost us alot of interference calls again this year.

It's kind of wierd, we basicly have like 4 strong safeties on our team, someone needs to step up with some coverage ability, maybe Hutchins, maybe Bennett. I think so far Fletcher is our best cover corner besides Dunta and Bennett is showing promise, but will need more time I think.

Basicly we all need to pray, and maybe we will win alot of close games that we used to lose.

On the brightside our run defense looks pretty darn solid, and if we can step up the pressure on the QB then we could get by with the shoddy coverage.

Vinny
08-26-2007, 02:03 PM
It's kind of wierd, we basicly have like 4 strong safeties on our team, someone needs to step up with some coverage ability, maybe Hutchins, maybe Bennett. I think so far Fletcher is our best cover corner besides Dunta and Bennett is showing promise, but will need more time I think.


I'm starting to think that Brown isn't very good at either FS or SS....he was the reason that TO scored the first time.....just a really sloppy approach on his missed tackle.

eriadoc
08-26-2007, 02:21 PM
I just re-watched the game on DVR. Some of my thoughts -

I never thought about the TO touchdown as being against Faggins. Vinny is correct in stating that it was Simmons who had a bad angle. Faggins missed assignments at least two other occasions, and I believe two more than that (I was keeping count during the viewing, but no notes on specific plays). The one that stands out was the first down catch for Hurd (Herd? - sp?). There was at least one more where he was on his guy, but just got outplayed. Plays like that have very little to do with the pass rush and everything to do with Faggins. Unfortunately, as Xtru points out, we have no one to really replace him with. I have my fingers crossed for Bennett, personally, but he has to take the job.

Morlon Greenwood only made one bad play that I could find. He missed a tackle on the Dallas RB (Jones, I think) and Ryans came up with a nice ankle tackle on the play to save a huge gain. Greenwood isn't our strongest player, but he's no Matt Stevens. Most of our secondary is closer to the Matt Stevens line. My big problem with Greenwood is how I've been told repeatedly how fast he is, yet he never seems to run anyone down. He's often around the ball, but almost always the second guy there. Meh ... I'd like to replace him once the secondary and O-line are addressed.

O-line: Sorry, folks, but I am going to say something very unpopular here. I am seeing the same old crap from them. The #1 difference is Schaub. That guy is making a world of difference for this team, but that does not mean the O-line is performing well. And when the real bullets start flying, and there's more game tape for opponents to study, this libe is going to get Schaub killed. And that's not even considering the (inevitable) injury to some starter. Go back and watch the game, if you have it recorded, and pay close attention to what kind of pocket Matt has to work with (or doesn't, in most cases). It looks no different than when YKW was here. Notable exception - on the TD pass the Jacoby Jones, that was how a pocket is supposed to look. They did an outstanding job on that play. For most of the second quarter, they didn't form anything resembling a pocket. My respect for Schaub is rising fast (and I liked him all along), while my fears about the O-line are in the process of being confirmed. Just as our defense came together last year, don't be surprised if our offense starts to struggle as the year goes along, and look no further than our front five.

Mario has to show more. I know, he made some plays, was finally somewhat effective, but that is the absolute minimum I want to see from him. It's a step in the right direction, and I am nowhere close to calling him a bust; I am just calling it as I see it. He has to do more.

Travis Johnson had a pretty good game. He tied up blockers and allowed Ryans, Barber, and Clark (as well as Mario on at least one play) to make some good plays. I like what I am seeing from him. Maddox had a couple good plays, as did Zgonina. At the game last night, I remember thinking "#92 is Weaver, but I thought he was injured. Oh well, nice play". Well, that was Zgonina.

Demarcus Ware is the one who got that horse-collar tackle on Ahman Green, not the DB #42 (Henry?). I had to slo-mo it to make sure, but it was Ware. He ran him down from the LOS. I think it's natural to expect it, but Ahman Green doesn't have the same jets he had before the knee injury. Ware is a good player, but still. By the way, Roy Williams gave up that play by not wrapping up a tackle on Green, then he got blasted by both Pitts and Salaam. It was pretty cool to watch.

Jason Simmons hits HARD. And even after he lays the wood, he comes back and does it again. I like the guy a lot. (but, he's no cover safety)

Anyway, JMO and a few thoughts from what I recall.

Hagar
08-26-2007, 02:22 PM
For What Itís Worth: I think this is a great thread and there are a lot of great posts in it.

I was at the game and basically didn't watch enough of it be analytical about what I saw. I was way too busy jumping up and down, cheering our team, and heckling the cowgirls fans. The good times started with an amazing punt return and continued on till the end of the third quarter when I stood up proclaimed victory over the Cowgirls and walked out.

What can I say, I'm a fan!

eriadoc
08-26-2007, 02:25 PM
For What It’s Worth: I think this is a great thread and there are a lot of great posts in it.

I was at the game and basically didn't watch enough of it be analytical about what I saw. I was way too busy jumping up and down, cheering our team, and heckling the cowgirls fans. The good times started with an amazing punt return and continued on till the end of the third quarter when I stood up proclaimed victory over the Cowgirls and walked out.

What can I say, I'm a fan!

Same here (well, except for the leaving early part - shame, shame). This is what DVR is for, lol.

Marcus
08-26-2007, 02:27 PM
. . . if we can step up the pressure on the QB then we could get by with the shoddy coverage.

That can't be overstated. Good pressure upfront negates, or at least minimizes the effect of bad secondary play. If they could only manage to get some pressure with just the front four, at least once in a blue moon, it would make the coverage that much better.

As for the O line, why they are all of a sudden playing so much better . . . I have absolutely no idea.:rolleyes:

eriadoc
08-26-2007, 02:31 PM
As for the O line, why they are all of a sudden playing so much better . . . I have absolutely no idea.:rolleyes:

They aren't. They are still playing poorly. Many on here have said all along that the QB play does not exonerate the line play. They didn't form a pocket worth a damn too many times last night, but Schaub is dealing with it very well. Kudos to him, Kubiak, and the backs and receivers that are atepping up as well.

Vinny
08-26-2007, 02:37 PM
O-line: Sorry, folks, but I am going to say something very unpopular here. I am seeing the same old crap from them. The #1 difference is Schaub. That guy is making a world of difference for this team, but that does not mean the O-line is performing well. And when the real bullets start flying, and there's more game tape for opponents to study, this libe is going to get Schaub killed. And that's not even considering the (inevitable) injury to some starter. Go back and watch the game, if you have it recorded, and pay close attention to what kind of pocket Matt has to work with (or doesn't, in most cases). It looks no different than when YKW was here. Notable exception - on the TD pass the Jacoby Jones, that was how a pocket is supposed to look. They did an outstanding job on that play. For most of the second quarter, they didn't form anything resembling a pocket. My respect for Schaub is rising fast (and I liked him all along), while my fears about the O-line are in the process of being confirmed. Just as our defense came together last year, don't be surprised if our offense starts to struggle as the year goes along, and look no further than our front five.


I watch a ton of football...and this is normal stuff....the line on any team is going to win some battles and lose some battles...but every time we lose a battle our fans want to bash them because it's what we have done over they years trying to justify a ton of bad quarterbacking...so we make it out to be worse than it is...just my opinion on this one.

eriadoc
08-26-2007, 02:40 PM
I watch a ton of football...and this is normal stuff....the line on any team is going to win some battles and lose some battles...but every time we lose a battle our fans want to bash them because it's what we have done over they years trying to justify a ton of bad quarterbacking...so we make it out to be worse than it is...just my opinion on this one.

If we were losing some and winning some, roughly at a 50/50 rate, I'd not be concerned at all. We lost most of the trench battles last night (on both sides, for that matter). I would be thrilled if we were good enough to "win some, lose some". As it is, we lose most.

ETA - We won the game, so I am happy and not being alarmist. I am just pointing out what I saw.

Texans Horror
08-26-2007, 02:42 PM
O-line: Sorry, folks, but I am going to say something very unpopular here. I am seeing the same old crap from them. The #1 difference is Schaub. That guy is making a world of difference for this team, but that does not mean the O-line is performing well. And when the real bullets start flying, and there's more game tape for opponents to study, this libe is going to get Schaub killed. And that's not even considering the (inevitable) injury to some starter. Go back and watch the game, if you have it recorded, and pay close attention to what kind of pocket Matt has to work with (or doesn't, in most cases). It looks no different than when YKW was here. Notable exception - on the TD pass the Jacoby Jones, that was how a pocket is supposed to look. They did an outstanding job on that play. For most of the second quarter, they didn't form anything resembling a pocket. My respect for Schaub is rising fast (and I liked him all along), while my fears about the O-line are in the process of being confirmed. Just as our defense came together last year, don't be surprised if our offense starts to struggle as the year goes along, and look no further than our front five.


O-line is having the same pass-protection issues as last year. The pass-protection hasn't changed a bit. Dallas seemed to be able to blitz with relative ease when they blitzed. The run-blocking is better, which I attribute more to Sherman's schemes (pulling guards) than to Ahman Green, though he has pushed around a few to get extra yards.

The pass-protection scares me. Defenses are still running from any side and getting into the backfield. That shouldn't be happening to such a propensity, especially in preseason. I am going to go ahead and make the prediction that, like last season, the offense will look worse once the season starts and the defense will look better.

Season hasn't begun and I'm already wondering about next year's draft. Kubiak has said they are 1 to 2 players shy of a great team. I'm thinking it's three or four, but that's JMO (Center, Left Tackle, defensive secondary help).

Vinny
08-26-2007, 02:43 PM
If we were losing some and winning some, roughly at a 50/50 rate, I'd not be concerned at all. We lost most of the trench battles last night (on both sides, for that matter). I would be thrilled if we were good enough to "win some, lose some". As it is, we lose most.I didn't see awful line play like you describe....but historically, we haven't seen the same things year-in, year-out on the boards....we all have our opinions though. give 'em hell.

eriadoc
08-26-2007, 02:45 PM
I didn't see awful line play like you describe....but historically, we haven't seen the same things year-in, year-out on the boards....we all have our opinions though. give 'em hell.

Difference of opinions aside, if you have the time at some point, go back and watch how the pocket is formed on the Jacoby Jones TD pass. Then watch how the pocket is formed for the rest of the first half. Then come back and tell me you aren't at least a little concerned.

Edited to make myself a little clearer.

brakos82
08-26-2007, 03:03 PM
This is what DVR is for, lol.

I still have a VCR for that. :gun:

brakos82
08-26-2007, 03:19 PM
Williams said he did something different in this game, but wouldn't disclose what it was saying only it had to do with his approach. Whatever it was, he said it made him feel "a lot more comfortable."


:shades:

mancunian
08-26-2007, 03:31 PM
Great win, secondary needs work but the run defence was ok.

and what can you say about Jones. Wow.

UvaldeTexan
08-26-2007, 03:42 PM
My biggest concern coming out of the Dallas game was the Texans inability to get off the field in 3rd and long situations. It seems to me like the secondary is just playing way to soft in these situations and is happy to just keep the play in front of them and give up a medium range pass for a first down. The rest of the game was great I thought for the team.

Vinny
08-26-2007, 03:55 PM
Difference of opinions aside, if you have the time at some point, go back and watch how the pocket is formed on the Jacoby Jones TD pass. Then watch how the pocket is formed for the rest of the first half. Then come back and tell me you aren't at least a little concerned.

Edited to make myself a little clearer.

I was at Hervoyel's (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=59) house during the game and he can tell you that almost all my focus on each and every play picked apart the oline last...pretty much exclusively (just ask him)....we just don't see the same things when we watch football games....never have. You could very well be right as I'm wrong more often than it pleases me...so it's all just a bunch of opinion at the end of the day.

real
08-26-2007, 05:45 PM
I thought we played pretty well on both sides of the ball as far as line play was concerned...I think there was definitely a lot to be encouraged about as far as line play is concerned...

You have to keep in mind the competition we were going against...

Yes, there were some bust....but that's part of growing up...we are a young team....plus, every team bust from time to time...

Overall, I'd say we had better line play than the cowboys on both sides of the ball--and again--considering the competition that's saying a lot IMHO....

Spike
08-26-2007, 06:00 PM
The consensus seems to be that the team played well, but the o-line and secondary are the weak links the team. My questions are:

(1) Is there anything left in the piggy bank to pick up veteran guys who are getting waived?
(2) If so, are we going to be able to find any bodies that can fill these needs? If I am veteran free saftey that is looking for a home this year and I get cut on Tuesday, I'm having my agent call Rick Smith all day and night.

I think we are all looking for high level of talent at every position on the field. The reality is, very few teams can boast above-average talent at every position on the field. Everyone has weaknesses, but as fans think that the weak spots on their team are worse than anyone elses. At the end of the day, if the guys we have on the line and secondary are SO bad, we ought to be able to upgrade with cuts.

If we can't, then maybe this is just the natural make-up of most teams in the NFL with one or two real weak spots. I don't love the play of our o-line, but I doubt that there are many Cowbay fans this morning thinking that we have a real weakness at that position.

I want more, but can live with what we have - with the hope that we see improvement in these areas as the season continues. How quickly things change - if you would have told me in January that my only concerns with this team prior to the start of the 2007 season would be at the O-line and secondary, I would have been pretty darn happy that we were down to just 2...and have been interested to hear what turned Carr around.

Just think about where this team has come from in freaking 8 months...and with having the eat about $30M in dead cap money. We are going to be comptetive this year, but most of all, we have reason to be proud about the foundation we are building.