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TexanAddict
08-14-2007, 12:04 PM
From Solomon's chron blog:

I wasn't there, but sometimes in person what you see is not what actually happened. That's why after a game coaches always say, "I have to look at the film."

Well, that's what I did. I'd hoped to have an NFL coach or player check the film for me, but they are even busier in preseason than during the regular season, so you have to rely on my layman's observation, though I did talk to a defensive lineman about what I saw to see if it made sense. He said I sound on point generally, but he couldn't be sure unless he knew what was called on every play.

So here the Mario breakdown:

Play 1 - Quick three-step drop for Rex Grossman, running back popped down to double Mario, no chance of doing any damage. Just guessing here, but Mario also slowed to read the back, because if it were a handoff he was the only defender in the area.

Play 2 - Play-action with a seven-step drop gave Grossman extra time, but after initially honoring the fake, Mario ripped through a tackle-tight end double-team to pressure the QB.

Play 3 - Who the heck knows? By the time Ch. 13 got back to live action, Cedric Benson had broken a tackle (announcers say it was DeMeco Ryans) and been brought down on a run to the right.

Play 4 - Mario was one-on-one with a tackle (though the tight end probably missed a chip), initial outside move was thwarted and couldn't get free with inside adjustment. Tried to toss 315-pound John St. Clair to the side with a power swing (the move Reggie White made famous) but he didn't budge. Excellent footwork by St. Clair.

Play 5 - False start on the Bears. Mario might have caused it. We don't know because Ch. 13 didn't show the play. (Hey, it's preseason for TV too.)

Play 6 - Choppy three-step drop for Grossman. No chance for any pass rush from the outside.

Play 7 - Running play, where Mario had outside contain (particularly since C.C. Brown ran up out of position which could have led to a big play), and he locked up the tackle, forcing Benson back inside where Ryans dropped him for a two-yard loss.

Play 8 - Beat St. Clair with an outside rush, but it was too deep to get near Grossman's five-step drop, so St. Clair led him further wide.

Play 9 - Was making progress into the pocket when Grossman threw a dump-off on a quick read. Had Grossman even thought about his second option in stead of looking at the first and checking down, Williams would have gotten to him.

Play 10 - Quick penetration to the outside on a running play. His move opened a cutback hole for Benson, but Charlie Anderson was there and Dunta Robinson closed with authority.

Play 11 - Texans were preparing to bring a blitz, drew St. Clair offsides. Granted a couple of people moved, but if the guy in front of you jumps, you get credit for a nice play. Hooray Mario.

Play 12 - Wins race to the outside, forces Grossman to step up and dump off to Benson.

Play 13 (second series) - Mario slides left as if he read run, but it was a play fake and short throw to the fullback.

Play 14 - Held the point on an iso running play right at him, but couldn't shake free to make the tackle. 11-yard gain.

Play 15 - St. Clair did an excellent job of pass blocking on this one, and again, Grossman wasted little time checking down, though it appeared he did make two downfield reads before overthrowing Benson for his first incompletion.

Play 16 - Mario read run, and he was right, but he jumped away from the point of attack - something that at times is strategy, but more likely a bad habit created by his ability to chase ball-carriers downfield. (That's why you so often see him arriving on the scene in the secondary after a tackle has been made.) I'll have to ask Texans coaches if it's a problem. Surely there are times Mario is supposed to peel off, but many times he seems to do so because he is waiting for something to happen instead of making it happen.

Play 17 - If Mario had been setting St. Clair up for an out-and-up move, this was the time to whip it out, but he stayed outside on Grossman's five-step drop until a desperation spin as the ball was being thrown. This is what will determine if Mario will either become a stud or just decent. He has to develop a sense of what to do and when to do it. He'd gone outside almost exclusively to this point, so much so that St. Clair instantly dropped back to protect against the outside rush. Mario had St. Clair sliding almost off-balance to his left, yet still chose to go the long way around. He didn't get there.

...Texans' coaches say Williams played OK, and he did. They don't seem to upset that Mario won't make the preseason Pro Bowl.

Link (http://blogs.chron.com/jeromesolomon/2007/08/mario_is_no_preseason_star_bat.html)

real
08-14-2007, 12:09 PM
Mario pretty much admitted that he had opprotunities to make plays but he didn't....

Whatever that means...

Texan Asylum
08-14-2007, 12:22 PM
From Solomon's chron blog:



Link (http://blogs.chron.com/jeromesolomon/2007/08/mario_is_no_preseason_star_bat.html)
This was a nice breakdown to read. Rep your way.

Thanks for the post.

Hardcore Texan
08-14-2007, 12:26 PM
Seemed like a pretty fair analysis, hopefully Mario gets rolling by season opener.

:texflag:

Brando
08-14-2007, 01:29 PM
From Solomon's chron blog:



Link (http://blogs.chron.com/jeromesolomon/2007/08/mario_is_no_preseason_star_bat.html)

That's a pretty accurate assessment. That's how I saw everything. Mario will be fine.

Thanks for that. Rep coming your way.

dtran04
08-14-2007, 02:15 PM
Most informational Mario post yet. Much better than the other 17 pages. :)

utahmark
08-14-2007, 02:40 PM
i think your being a little generous on your assesment.

couple of examples, play 8 -- if your taken out of the play and run 5 yards past the qb. you didnt beat your man. you got pushed out of the play.

play 14 what you calling holding the point i call getting blocked by a second string tackle. while benson runs free.

i watched mario pretty closley and didnt see a lot of positives. but ill wait till the regular season to get to worried.

BigTimeTexanFan
08-14-2007, 02:47 PM
i think your being a little generous on your assesment.

couple of examples, play 8 -- if your taken out of the play and run 5 yards past the qb. you didnt beat your man. you got pushed out of the play.

play 14 what you calling holding the point i call getting blocked by a second string tackle. while benson runs free.

i watched mario pretty closley and didnt see a lot of positives. but ill wait till the regular season to get to worried.
This was an assessment by jerome Solomon, not TexanAddict. And FWIW, King Solomon is notorious for bashing the Texans.

real
08-14-2007, 03:12 PM
Didn't see a whole lot positive in that breakdown...

If you count the plays where he says Mario had no chance to make a play as a wash, that still leaves more negatives than positives...

Towards the end of the breakdown it seemed as if Mario was getting worse...

TexanAddict
08-14-2007, 03:14 PM
This was an assessment by jerome Solomon, not TexanAddict. And FWIW, King Solomon is notorious for bashing the Texans.

Thanks, I was about to say the same thing. Guess I didn't make it clear enough that this on Solomon's blog.

Vinny
08-14-2007, 03:19 PM
This was an assessment by jerome Solomon, not TexanAddict. And FWIW, King Solomon is notorious for bashing the Texans.
I'd say he is more notorious for speaking his mind than bashing the Texans. We are just thin skinned at times.

Matt
08-14-2007, 03:36 PM
I'd say he is more notorious for speaking his mind than bashing the Texans. We are just thin skinned at times.

I didn't know calling the entire fanbase in the town where you work "losers" was just speaking your mind. :ok:

utahmark
08-14-2007, 07:23 PM
This was an assessment by jerome Solomon, not TexanAddict. And FWIW, King Solomon is notorious for bashing the Texans.


my bad. so i think king solomon is being a little generous with his assesments, not texanaddict.

ObsiWan
08-14-2007, 07:57 PM
I'd say he is more notorious for speaking his mind than bashing the Texans. We are just thin skinned at times.

Yes we are.

You are sooo right; sometimes we can't handle the truth...
http://www.pmthink.com/uploaded_images/quotestruth-701634.jpg

Runner
08-14-2007, 08:19 PM
I'd say he is more notorious for speaking his mind than bashing the Texans. We are just thin skinned at times.

Thin skinned? Now my feelings are hurt.

JohnsonFan
08-14-2007, 09:50 PM
mario = one of the biggest busts in draft history

Joe Texan
08-14-2007, 10:37 PM
Mario will be fine except in the eyes of the Vince and Reggie lovers

JohnsonFan
08-14-2007, 10:55 PM
Mario will be fine except in the eyes of the Vince and Reggie loversnot really i am not a VY or RB lover at all, but i do see through all the hype and if u look at mario he is just not performing

Wolf
08-14-2007, 11:09 PM
thing is the ball is in VY hands on offense 100 percent of the time.. Reggie..less times than VY(obviously)

Mario only time you will see his stats is if he gets a big play (sack,Forced fumble,INT) or if he gets a tackle.. lots of folks won't see the little stuff like if he gets 2 people on him and opens up other defensive linemen or keeps an OL off of Demeco..... mario will have a lot of "behind the scenes" stuff (hopefully) ....now if an OL is handling him one on one on a consistant bases ..then we have problems.

DBCooper
08-14-2007, 11:48 PM
mario = one of the biggest busts in draft history

JohnsonFan =

(in Scandinavian folklore) any of a race of supernatural beings, sometimes conceived as giants and sometimes as dwarfs, inhabiting caves or subterranean dwellings

JohnsonFan
08-14-2007, 11:52 PM
JohnsonFan =

(in Scandinavian folklore) any of a race of supernatural beings, sometimes conceived as giants and sometimes as dwarfs, inhabiting caves or subterranean dwellings

wow somebody is mario's body gaurd, chill man i am just saying he hasnt done any thing to prove he was worth a first pick .. YET!

Hagar
08-15-2007, 12:03 AM
Oh Geeez, the lines are forming.

Carr Homers vs. Carr Haters

now

the "Thin Skins" vs. the "Realists"

Please say it isn't so Joe!

Can't we all just get along? :sos:

DBCooper
08-15-2007, 12:05 AM
wow somebody is mario's body gaurd, chill man i am just saying he hasnt done any thing to prove he was worth a first pick .. YET!

You said: "mario = one of the biggest busts in draft history"


Mario is not a bust. Far from it.

He does need to step it up, I agree, but he would start on most of the teams in the league.

One of the biggest busts in draft history, give me a break.

JohnsonFan
08-15-2007, 12:05 AM
hey what ever i was just saying its the realistic truth but what ever

Runner
08-15-2007, 12:10 AM
JohnsonFan =

(in Scandinavian folklore) any of a race of supernatural beings, sometimes conceived as giants and sometimes as dwarfs, inhabiting caves or subterranean dwellings

wow somebody is mario's body gaurd, chill man i am just saying he hasnt done any thing to prove he was worth a first pick .. YET!


I thought about deleting that first post because it was a personal attack, but since I have no idea what it was saying I let it be. After all, Superman is a supernatural being. Maybe he's just equating you with Superman!

Leahmic223
08-15-2007, 12:19 AM
This might become another Mario thread...

JohnsonFan
08-15-2007, 12:25 AM
I thought about deleting that first post because it was a personal attack, but since I have no idea what it was saying I let it be. After all, Superman is a supernatural being. Maybe he's just equating you with Superman! i have always wanted to be a superhero......:shades:

Vinny
08-15-2007, 12:46 AM
I didn't know calling the entire fanbase in the town where you work "losers" was just speaking your mind. :ok:

ok...not a bad point

ObsiWan
08-15-2007, 01:44 AM
who cares if Mario got a sack or not.
We SHUT OUT the BEARS

we've been worrying about the wrong thing

Mr teX
08-15-2007, 09:17 AM
who cares if Mario got a sack or not.
We SHUT OUT the BEARS

we've been worrying about the wrong thing

That's typically how it goes around here........

hadaad
08-15-2007, 09:53 AM
Oh Geeez, the lines are forming.

Carr Homers vs. Carr Haters

now

the "Thin Skins" vs. the "Realists"

Please say it isn't so Joe!

Can't we all just get along? :sos:

Now what kind of messageboard would that be?