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jdog
08-12-2007, 04:14 PM
coming up on houstontexans.com

Buffi2
08-12-2007, 04:17 PM
Thanks for the info.:highfive:

powerfuldragon
08-12-2007, 05:24 PM
anything of note said in the press c. ?

SheTexan
08-12-2007, 05:51 PM
anything of note said in the press c. ?

NO!!!! I'm sure one of the guys will give a better analysis of the interview, so I won't even try. Same old stuff we always hear from the head honchos. A lot of words that mean nothing, simple because we have already heard it, or read it. NOTHING NEW! JMO!!

jdog
08-12-2007, 07:13 PM
The main things that I remember from it...

...Glenn Earl is out for the season...

...C.C. Brown is moving to strong safety...

...they will be bringing in some new guys to compete with Von Hutchins for the free safety spot...

...Chester Pitts will be out for at least another week...

...Anthony Weaver will not play until the final preseason game...

A lot of other things were said, but these are the facts regarding starters.

The Pencil Neck
08-12-2007, 07:14 PM
anything of note said in the press c. ?

I only caught part of it and it was a while back... but...

He saw things on special teams that he liked from Pass so they're going to give him a shot next week. Jameel Cook is going to work out and they're going to see if he's ready to go tomorrow.

We'll probably get some street guys in here the next couple of days to add a body or two to the safety position.

They're also going to work Pitts out and see if he's ready to go this week. McCardell is probably out this next week. Don't expect to see Weaver until the last pre-season game.

He went over the film with Jethro and even though they didn't get stats from Mario, they think he played better. He also mentioned that Babin has really improved and is making some noise. He talked about how it was an experience for Okoye and he needs to improve at the point of attack but now this is out of the way and he knows what he needs to work on.

Texans_Chick
08-12-2007, 07:20 PM
Abbate's hamstring is still giving him trouble. He messed it up at combine time and he is still having issues.

Marcus
08-12-2007, 07:23 PM
He went over the film with Jethro and even though they didn't get stats from Mario, they think he played better.

:um: (could you clarify that a little?)

jdog
08-12-2007, 07:27 PM
:um: (could you clarify that a little?)

He basically said Mario is doing well even if it's not translating into stats yet...it will eventually.

The Pencil Neck
08-12-2007, 07:27 PM
:um: (could you clarify that a little?)

Even though he didn't get a sack or tackle or anything else that would generate a statistic in the 2 series Mario played, Jethro thinks that Mario played better than last year.

Honoring Earl 34
08-12-2007, 07:50 PM
Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck
He went over the film with Jethro and even though they didn't get stats from Mario, they think he played better.


So ... I'm thinking that's not what Jethro told Mario . I think this is what Jethro says to Mario .

WHAT THE @##$^% ARE DOING OUT THERE ? WE NEED YOU TO BE A #$#%%^MANIAC ... I'M TIRED OF SEEING YOU GET HELD UP AT THE #^% LINE OF #$&^*& SCRIMMAGE . MARIO I WANT YOU TO TEAR INTO SOMEONES $%$&# FAT #$%&&8 BUTT . DO NOT BRING THAT $%**%& AGAIN .

nunusguy
08-12-2007, 08:22 PM
Really bad news about Earl. Somewhere, somebody reported his injury was similar to the foot injury Faggins suffered last year where he was back playing by the middle of the year.
But this is much more severe. I beleive they said it will take 9-12 months to recover from after the surgery and then I guess they'll have rehab ? So being ready to play for the season opener might be an issue. That's the season opener for the 2008 season.

CloakNNNdagger
08-12-2007, 09:28 PM
Really bad news about Earl. Somewhere, somebody reported his injury was similar to the foot injury Faggins suffered last year where he was back playing by the middle of the year.
But this is much more severe. I beleive they said it will take 9-12 months to recover from after the surgery and then I guess they'll have rehab ? So being ready to play for the season opener might be an issue. That's the season opener for the 2008 season.


"He (Earl) does have the lis-franc injury," said Houston head coach Gary Kubiak. "He'll have surgery on Tuesday. The recovery on this: nine to twelve months, so Glenn's season is done. He will go on injured reserve. Glenn was having a fine camp and he's a big part of this football team so that's a big blow to this football team. He definitely will be out for the season."
EARL (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/scorecard/nflnews.asp?articleID=208062)

Faggins was diagnosed with a "Jones fracture" in his right foot. He fractured the fifth metatarsal. The fracture was pinned in place to help the healing process, and then Faggins faced a prognosis of 6-10 weeks of rehabilitation.


In a nut shell, a "lis-franc" fracture dislocation involves a violent twisting fracture of the arch (second metatarsal) of the foot, with dislocation of adjacent joint(s) along with severe tendinous and soft tissue damage. The foot is left unstable and and require meticulous open surgical stabilization, depending on the number and location of the fractures and dislocations. The screws are usually left in place for about 6 months. Meanwhile, weight bearing is not usually allowed until at least 8 weeks. Athletes seldom return within 1 year. Believe it or not, a "lis-franc" injury without fracture despite open surgical stabilization, has a progosis that is significantly poorer for return. Hopefully, the latter is not the case.

Carr Bombed
08-12-2007, 09:34 PM
Earl has probably played his last snap as a Houston Texan. I wish him the best of luck, but lets be honest..... Earl was not the future long term "answer" at SS.

Now CC is playing in his natural position and the Texans might actually have a chance to UPGRADE the safety spot, because of Glenn's injury.

Runner
08-12-2007, 09:43 PM
...Chester Pitts will be out for at least another week...


Given the way this staff talks about injuries - i.e. little information - this makes a little concerned. They were always noncommittal about Spencer with quotes like "we'll see how he looks in camp". I'm pretty sure they knew he was going on the PUP well before camp started.

Now with Pitts it seems like it started with "he'd play if it was a regular season game", now it is "out at least another week". What will it be next week? "Should be better by the first regular season game"?

CloakNNNdagger
08-12-2007, 09:56 PM
Given the way this staff talks about injuries - i.e. little information - this makes a little concerned. They were always noncommittal about Spencer with quotes like "we'll see how he looks in camp". I'm pretty sure they knew he was going on the PUP well before camp started.

Now with Pitts it seems like it started with "he'd play if it was a regular season game", now it is "out at least another week". What will it be next week? "Should be better by the first regular season game"?

I share your concern since one of the reports supposedly mentioned that the MRI demonstrated a herniated disc............everything before and after this report has implied "muscle spasms." They aren't the same, and they don't carry the same implications. As I mentioned in a previous post...........what is really going on is suspect.

rmartin65
08-12-2007, 10:11 PM
Abbate's hamstring is still giving him trouble. He messed it up at combine time and he is still having issues.

Thats not good. Hopefully he fixes it before it becomes like Mathis

ObsiWan
08-12-2007, 10:34 PM
Given the way this staff talks about injuries - i.e. little information - this makes a little concerned. They were always noncommittal about Spencer with quotes like "we'll see how he looks in camp". I'm pretty sure they knew he was going on the PUP well before camp started.

Now with Pitts it seems like it started with "he'd play if it was a regular season game", now it is "out at least another week". What will it be next week? "Should be better by the first regular season game"?

Think of it this way: Say the 1st string guy at 80% is still better than the 2nd string guy at 100% - Pitts vs Hodgdon is a prime example. So, when the games really count, 1st string guy would be pushed back into the lineup sooner. But this time of year there's no reason to ask 1st string guy to play if he's only 80% or even 90% back when you can (a) give him another week to recover fully and (b) use this excuse to get the 2nd string guy more experience.

If you think Kubiak is bad, you should listen to the talking heads try to get a read on Belichick when he's talking about his players' injury status. They've been griping about him for years.

Kubiak isn't doing anything other coaches don't do. Its all coach-speak.

Runner
08-12-2007, 10:56 PM
Think of it this way: Say the 1st string guy at 80% is still better than the 2nd string guy at 100% - Pitts vs Hodgdon is a prime example. So, when the games really count, 1st string guy would be pushed back into the lineup sooner. But this time of year there's no reason to ask 1st string guy to play if he's only 80% or even 90% back when you can (a) give him another week to recover fully and (b) use this excuse to get the 2nd string guy more experience.


My concern was that Pitts ends up at 0% like Spencer, and the team is minimalizing the information. They have some short history in that regard with Davis and Spencer. It's even worse if they really didn't realize the extent of the injuires.

Note I say I have a concern, not that I think this is a fact (as I did with Spencer early in the off season).

Hagar
08-12-2007, 11:05 PM
Thats not good. Hopefully he fixes it before it becomes like MathisIts already different then Mathis. Abbate is playing is way through the pain, Mathis took the year off.

Texans_Chick
08-13-2007, 12:05 AM
Its already different then Mathis. Abbate is playing is way through the pain, Mathis took the year off.

Hmmmm. Not quite accurate. Mathis had foot surgery, tried to come back as soon as he could, and came back before his conditioning was right.

Soooooo.....

Abbate played through minicamps with a messed up hamstring and Mathis didn't.

Abbate is now running of the risk of not making the team, and Mathis looked fabu on Saturday.

Abbate doesn't really have much of a choice or else he'd already been cut.

Separate and apart from this particular issue, I've always been fascinated with the line with where you draw the line between playing through pain and making stuff worse so you can't play at all. It's a difficult line to draw, even with those athletes who know their bodies well.

I hate running but I trained for a marathon once just to see if I could do it. I did something stupid during a tune up race at the half marathon distance, and tweaked my knee so it hurt only when I ran. So I decided to give up my marathon idea even though I think I could have still ran it, because I figured the long term health of my knees was more important than some silly goal to myself.

The stakes are obviously much different on the professional level, and the interests are different too. Sometimes the athlete's best interests do not correspond to the best interests of the team and also the best thing to do from a (oft conflicting) medical perspective. Lots of non-truth telling, especially with things like concussions because people don't want to lose their jobs. Brutal game. People get hurt. Hard to draw lines. And I am certainly not one to judge.

ObsiWan
08-13-2007, 01:02 AM
My concern was that Pitts ends up at 0% like Spencer, and the team is minimalizing the information. They have some short history in that regard with Davis and Spencer. It's even worse if they really didn't realize the extent of the injuires.

Note I say I have a concern, not that I think this is a fact (as I did with Spencer early in the off season).

I share your concern. I'd rather Pitts sit out the next two weeks if it means he's ready for the season.

On the other injuries (or any injury for that matter) I think they can know fairly well the extent of the injuries but judging someone's healing/recovery rate is much more of a tricky matter. Given that any player's recovery rate is really a guessing matter, I don't see how they can't help but be a bit vague. ...at least in the beginning.

tsip
08-13-2007, 09:47 AM
"Kubiak says poor execution to blame for lack of success around the goal line"

That word we heard for 5 yrs is back, alive and well. Too, we're getting to hear some old familar thoughts about how we've got to learn to score tds instead of fgs in the red zone. but I especially liked Kubes thoughts on Stanley

"I know Chad Stanley can kick the ball better than he did last night, and he will be the first one to tell you that," Kubiak said. "I want to say his were 35-37, and I can't remember the other one offhand. When we needed a really big kick at the end of the game, to pin them down there, that was not one of the better of his three.

"It is a good battle going on. We talk about what they do; one of them has got the big leg and one of them has got the consistent leg. But I do know this, Stanley has got to kick the ball better than he did last night to win this job, and he knows that, too."

...sorry, I'm in the dark here because this is the way Stanley has always punted--true, in the past, he's been consistent with short punts-but he's never been a 'big' kicker...