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The Dude Abides
08-11-2007, 07:21 PM
Titans quarterback Vince Young will not play in tonight's game against the Washington Redskins at LP Field after violating a team rule.
“He will be on the sidelines tonight, and will practice this week and play next weekend at New England,’’ Coach Jeff Fisher said.
Fisher would not reveal the rule Young violated. Veteran Kerry Collins will start for the Titans.


http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070811/SPORTS01/70811011



It's the first pre-season game. This is just to get his attention and little more than a slap on the wrist

Hookem Horns
08-11-2007, 07:47 PM
Let's hope he keeps setting this type of example as team leader.

Second Honeymoon
08-11-2007, 07:58 PM
Obviously Fish is sending a message to VY and the rest of the Titans. He is the Anti-Jimmy Johnson because he makes all players follow the same rules. I am sure he was late to a meeting or possibly insubordinate to a coach.

It could also be an excuse to hold him out the game to prevent injury, but I doubt it. it smells like a genuine reprimand that will stay 'in house'.

2 minutes till Schaub begins a new era for the Texans!
GO TEXANS!!

Overalls
08-11-2007, 08:07 PM
It is probable because vy is doing terrible in camp and they don't want to embarrass him by letting him look like a fool against a bad Redskins team.

Wolf
08-11-2007, 08:41 PM
He didn't play, all NFL network said was he violated a team rule but was not specific on what it was

that is the game I get to see on dish ...yippee

Showtime100
08-11-2007, 10:16 PM
Does Vince own a dog?? :)

ChildressTitanMan
08-11-2007, 10:29 PM
Does Vince own a dog?? :)

Yes,it's called Houston. :splits:

Silver Oak
08-11-2007, 11:49 PM
quite frankly, with all of the turds they have on that team, I didn't think there were any rules at all!

gwallaia
08-12-2007, 01:42 AM
........ and the Madden Curse begins.:dancing:

Hookem Horns
08-12-2007, 02:08 AM
........ and the Madden Curse begins.:dancing:

LOL, I didn't think about that.

I am watching the game now on DVR. The Titans look like total crap. VY is going to have to be Superman for these guys to have any shot at being competitive.

TexansMVP
08-12-2007, 02:13 AM
Titans quarterback Vince Young will not play in tonight's game against the Washington Redskins at LP Field after violating a team rule.

Young violated curfew by spending a night at home instead of the hotel where the team stays during training camp.

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070811/SPORTS01/70811011/1027

Wolf
08-12-2007, 02:21 AM
titans-redskins game was a snoozer, I didn't make it past the 1st quarter.

my thoughts on holding him out (figured the team rules thing was kinda a joke) ...i figured Fisher knows he is the guy so he wanted to see what the other players had in them

Silver Oak
08-12-2007, 12:29 PM
methinks there is more to this story than meets the eye.

the entire team knows they are staying at the hotel overnight, and only Wunderlich decides to sleep in his own bed?

Vinny
08-12-2007, 12:30 PM
I'm a big VY fan....but he isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

CloakNNNdagger
08-12-2007, 01:03 PM
I'm a big VY fan....but he isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

It's just an attention getter.........even his team mates are on record saying that if this were the real season, the rule would have been overlooked.

This isn't a rule he wouldn't have known about. The rule states that all players with less than four years' experience are required to stay at the hotel. All you need to know is how to count to "four." I keep remembering VY's first comeradeship on the Titans was with Pacman at a club.........Maybe the Wonderlic isn't all that useless.

brakos82
08-12-2007, 01:05 PM
Yes,it's called Houston. :splits:

Don't bring Whitney into this... :bat:

Those 610 commercials... :ouch:

Wolf
08-12-2007, 07:31 PM
http://forums.titansonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28033

wow talk about rollercoasters

aj.
08-12-2007, 08:45 PM
Not sure what a few reps in the first quarter of a preseason game will get you - except maybe injured - when your game is mostly improv anyway.

I hope she was worth it.

nunusguy
08-13-2007, 10:46 AM
I dunno, but I thought right away that VY got a free-pass re the little right hook he thru at his teammate who took-down VYs WR in the Titans practice.
Instead his fans raved about him having his receivers back and being a leader.
Now we got this and I'm wondering if VY isn't having trouble coping with the size of his ego, his celebrity status and expectations of treatment by a different standard ?

Overalls
08-13-2007, 01:06 PM
Don't let VY's act of being stupid fool you. He controls the world with his mind.

Double Barrel
08-13-2007, 01:09 PM
VY is going to have to be Superman for these guys to have any shot at being competitive.

Superman is going to have to be Vince Young if he really wants to save the world. :superman:

axman40
08-13-2007, 07:47 PM
I thought he turned the world on with his smile. Oh wait, that was Mary Tyler Moore.
http://www.hissandpop.com/celebrities/m/marytylermoore/photos/mary-tyler-moore-020.jpg
MTM Hotness!
:texflag:

Texan_Bill
08-14-2007, 08:31 AM
MTM Hotness YES!! But I also kinda dug Rhoda (Valerie Harper) too - (not so much in that picture though)....

Texan_Bill
08-14-2007, 10:44 AM
Mr. Young, you have such an economy of words....

"Broke the rules," Young said. "Can't play. Got to go by the rules."

Way to qualify an apology:
"If I did, I apologize to my teammates, coaches, fans, to everybody. To me, I really feel like I'm not a bad guy, but I made a bad decision to try to go home and get some rest in my own bed and should've told coach. But I didn't. That's the consequences," Young said.


Article:
Titans QB Young Apologizes

Double Barrel
08-14-2007, 11:21 AM
"If I did,...."

Why does he say "if"? It's black and white. You either broke the rule or you didn't. Saying "if" tries to quantify it, like he thinks it might not apply to him. I guess this is what Great Leader does? idonno:

The Dream
08-14-2007, 11:25 AM
We don't know the question asked before hand so we don't know what that "if" means....it could've been a question that asked if he offended anyone by what he did.........

Specnatz
08-14-2007, 12:39 PM
Why does he say "if"? It's black and white. You either broke the rule or you didn't. Saying "if" tries to quantify it, like he thinks it might not apply to him. I guess this is what Great Leader does? idonno:

Well with his wonderlic score maybe he really just does not know and that his brain is trying to read those big long words and understand them but they are so hard. Anything over two syllables is hard for him to comprehend.

real
08-14-2007, 01:01 PM
http://www.hissandpop.com/celebrities/m/marytylermoore/photos/mary-tyler-moore-020.jpg
MTM Hotness!
:texflag:

Who can take a nothing day, and suddenly make it all seem worth while,
Well it's you girl and you should know it, with each glance and every little movement you show it....

real
08-14-2007, 01:14 PM
LMAO! I totally spun this thread. Not a bad hijack if I do say so myself.

Mary and Rhoda were much hotter than Phyllis IMO !

Mary was hott since Dick Van Dyke!

Noblesse Oblige
08-14-2007, 01:59 PM
http://www.hissandpop.com/celebrities/m/marytylermoore/photos/mary-tyler-moore-020.jpg
MTM Hotness!
:texflag:

Plus Mary is a diabetic (diabetrix?) like yours truly. She sure knows how to work that syringe. :shades:

Blazing Arrow
08-14-2007, 02:15 PM
Well with his wonderlic score maybe he really just does not know and that his brain is trying to read those big long words and understand them but they are so hard. Anything over two syllables is hard for him to comprehend.

:deadhorse:

I would love to see Shammy's Wonderlic score but honestly no one ever cared enough to look at it even on draft day. I would not be suprised if they just let him pass on it. Why would a career backup QB need to take that test?

Blazing Arrow
08-14-2007, 02:19 PM
Why does he say "if"? It's black and white. You either broke the rule or you didn't. Saying "if" tries to quantify it, like he thinks it might not apply to him. I guess this is what Great Leader does? idonno:

later in the article he says "BUT I broke the rules .... "

I think Young's beef with the situation is the fact he was the only one punished. Part of being a leader is taking the brunt of the punishment. He needs to see that. Hopefully this will help open his eyes to that.

Mr. White
08-14-2007, 02:23 PM
http://www.hissandpop.com/celebrities/m/marytylermoore/photos/mary-tyler-moore-020.jpg
MTM Hotness!
:texflag:

Chicks were just hotter in the '70's.

I was born 20 years too late. If I were old enough to drive back then, I would have had a custom van with this bumper sticker.

http://www.choiceshirts.com/images/A1/26/A12656A-md-b.jpg

And I would have had a van like this.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/coreyvice/vanwht.jpg

Specnatz
08-14-2007, 02:23 PM
I would love to see Shammy's Wonderlic score but honestly no one ever cared enough to look at it even on draft day. I would not be suprised if they just let him pass on it. Why would a career backup QB need to take that test?



Well ya know, I love the career back-ip line ya know, cause ya know it was just a great ya know line ya know. but ya know they do not take ya know test after being in the ya know league ya know for 3 years ya know. But ya know he still has ya know a better ya know passing percentage ya know than ya know some other ya know qb ya know.

Blazing Arrow
08-14-2007, 02:41 PM
Well ya know, I love the career back-ip line ya know, cause ya know it was just a great ya know line ya know. but ya know they do not take ya know test after being in the ya know league ya know for 3 years ya know. But ya know he still has ya know a better ya know passing percentage ya know than ya know some other ya know qb ya know.

I am not really sure what you are getting at buy "ya know" 39 yard OT runs to put down a division rival usually take very little verbal communication.

But then again wins are not really the cows specialty, ya know?

Specnatz
08-14-2007, 03:10 PM
Have you ever listened to VY speak? If have then you fully understand what I mean by the 'ya know' comments.

Blazing Arrow
08-14-2007, 03:34 PM
Have you ever listened to VY speak? If have then you fully understand what I mean by the 'ya know' comments.

I got it I was just not acknowledging it ..... :shades:

Specnatz
08-14-2007, 03:39 PM
Hey, we're trying to hijack a thread here, guys. :rolleyes:

and we are not letting you :pirate:

Texan_Bill
08-14-2007, 03:42 PM
I am not really sure what you are getting at buy "ya know" 39 yard OT runs to put down a division rival usually take very little verbal communication.

But then again wins are not really the cows specialty, ya know?

Arrow.... You are sounding more and more like a cowgurls fan everyday.. Keep living in the past.... ya know

"His Absenteeness" will need to produce a lot more than a 39 yard scamper for the Titans to win more than 6 games this year... ya know..

Double Barrel
08-14-2007, 03:51 PM
At least our 'backup QB' Shaub can follow simple team rules.

I suppose The Greatness follows team rules like he follows the team's playbook, 'eh?

"Don't need no stinkin' rules!!"

Blazing Arrow
08-14-2007, 04:24 PM
Arrow.... You are sounding more and more like a cowgurls fan everyday.. Keep living in the past.... ya know

"His Absenteeness" will need to produce a lot more than a 39 yard scamper for the Titans to win more than 6 games this year... ya know..

First off Bill .... MOO

It is hardly the past when it was the last game the two teams played against each other. I mean I could bring in the countless times the Titans have swept the cows in a season. Or the fact that only one season could you manage to pull in a win again us .... but I didn't .... I stated that Young did not need to communicate very much to leave the cows out to pasture.

I would figure will all the nifty pickups the moos made this offseason :rolleyes: that you would expect more then 5 win. There is no way the Titans finish below the cows this season.

Texan_Bill
08-14-2007, 04:30 PM
First off Bill .... MOO

It is hardly the past when it was the last game the two teams played against each other. I mean I could bring in the countless times the Titans have swept the cows in a season. Or the fact that only one season could you manage to pull in a win again us .... but I didn't .... I stated that Young did not need to communicate very much to leave the cows out to pasture.

I would figure will all the nifty pickups the moos made this offseason :rolleyes: that you would expect more then 5 win. There is no way the Titans finish below the cows this season.

MOO?? I knew people in Cali were quite articulate. :rolleyes:

Very short response needed here: Last year is last year... You can't qualify the past...

Again, the Texans improved the team. The Titans got worse - well right up until the signed Eric Moulds :rolleyes: Which of course was out of desperation....

Blazing Arrow
08-14-2007, 04:34 PM
At least our 'backup QB' Shaub can follow simple team rules.

I suppose The Greatness follows team rules like he follows the team's playbook, 'eh?

"Don't need no stinkin' rules!!"

His "huge" rule violation was wanting to sleep in his own bed the night before a game. He took full responsibility for it but did not articulate that very well. He started off his statement with you break the rule you pay the consequences.

Double Barrel
08-14-2007, 04:35 PM
Or the fact that only one season could you manage to pull in a win again us...

Correction: the Texans swept in the Titans in 2004...not that I'm living in the past or anything. :whistle:

Specnatz
08-14-2007, 04:40 PM
:pirate: to your :specnatz:

Just becareful when giving me a hiarcut.

His "huge" rule violation was wanting to sleep in his own bed the night before a game. He took full responsibility for it but did not articulate that very well. He started off his statement with you break the rule you pay the consequences.

It does not matter if it is a huge rule or a small rule, it is a rule and along with missing the teams charter last year he is setting up presidence of him acting like he is better than the rules.

Does he ever articulate anything very well?

Texan_Bill
08-14-2007, 04:45 PM
His "huge" rule violation was wanting to sleep in his own bed the night before a game. He took full responsibility for it but did not articulate that very well. He started off his statement with you break the rule you pay the consequences.

Yeah... This constitutes taking responsibility:

"If I did, I apologize to my teammates, coaches, fans, to everybody. To me, I really feel like I'm not a bad guy, but I made a bad decision to try to go home and get some rest in my own bed and should've told coach. But I didn't. That's the consequences," Young said.

I used to think that it worked for me in the fifth grade..

Blazing Arrow
08-14-2007, 04:48 PM
MOO?? I knew people in Cali were quite articulate. :rolleyes:

Very short response needed here: Last year is last year... You can't qualify the past...

Again, the Texans improved the team. The Titans got worse - well right up until the signed Eric Moulds :rolleyes: Which of course was out of desperation....

I was making sure you could comprehend my post ...

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u13/BlazingArrow24/orlly.jpg

Improving a team at the level the Texans were at last season is not saying much. Moving the garbage to the recycler is only changing the color of the can.

What is funny is Molds will produce more then the washed geezer you guy picked up in what was not "desperation".
:rolleyes:

Blazing Arrow
08-14-2007, 04:51 PM
Correction: the Texans swept in the Titans in 2004...not that I'm living in the past or anything. :whistle:

You should re-read what I posted. There was no correction needed. If so please name a season other then 04 that the Moos beat the Titans. :d:

Blazing Arrow
08-14-2007, 04:59 PM
It does not matter if it is a huge rule or a small rule, it is a rule and along with missing the teams charter last year he is setting up presidence of him acting like he is better than the rules.

Does he ever articulate anything very well?

I was unaware of the game of football coming down to a battle of words on the field. An unscripted interview after a game that is just a group of random questions hardly puts a person in a position to speak thier best.

I agree a rule is a rule, Vince seem to agree with that since it is almost a direct quote from the first line on the interview. You making an argument from nothing really here. Though I do agree that when this is added to the Nickey incident and the thing from last year it could be a spark of a head swelling and like a good coach Fisher put his boot in it. No other player was suspended for the incident but several were guilty. He learned a lesson in leadership here. Sometime you have to take the punishment for all the wrongs of a group because you are a leader. The only thing I see here is a 24 year old coming into his own and needing to be better about what he says to the media.

Double Barrel
08-14-2007, 05:15 PM
You should re-read what I posted. There was no correction needed. If so please name a season other then 04 that the Moos beat the Titans. :d:

I read it quite well:

Or the fact that only one season could you manage to pull in a win again us...

You said "a win", when in fact it was multiple wins. :cowboy1:

hey look, these are our crumbs, so get it right! We don't have much to hang our hats on around here, so...uh...yeah. :neener:

Shaft75
08-14-2007, 05:21 PM
The Skins played horribly the other night and...


won...:gun:

HOU-TEX
08-14-2007, 05:22 PM
His "huge" rule violation was wanting to sleep in his own bed the night before a game. He took full responsibility for it but did not articulate that very well. He started off his statement with you break the rule you pay the consequences.

If you believe that's what he did, I have a bridge to sell ya.:user:

That line was used for the media.

Get real! "Oh, I wanted to sleep at home with ma and pa and I got into trouble for it" Pfft! Whatever floats yer boat.

Blazing Arrow
08-14-2007, 05:39 PM
I read it quite well:



You said "a win", when in fact it was multiple wins. :cowboy1:

hey look, these are our crumbs, so get it right! We don't have much to hang our hats on around here, so...uh...yeah. :neener:

lol "a win" when put in the context of the sentence does not suggest that you could not have won other games during that season just that in only one season did you manage to put any wins up against us.

I specifically phrased my comment to not make mention of the sweep at all. I thought it would add some salt. :whip:

Blazing Arrow
08-14-2007, 05:49 PM
The Skins played horribly the other night and...


won...:gun:

They did not score until 1:42 left in the game and is was on our 3rd stringers. Notice there first team could not put up points on our first team D?

So if in the end the Titans only play there backups for the entire season we will probably have some issues ....

Specnatz
08-14-2007, 06:56 PM
Bump for Marcus. Hopefully he'll see the side of the van. It's almost identical to his avatar. LOL

It is from Pink Flyod Elle

ChildressTitanMan
08-14-2007, 07:55 PM
It does not matter if it is a huge rule or a small rule, it is a rule and along with missing the teams charter last year he is setting up presidence of him acting like he is better than the rules.

Does he ever articulate anything very well?

Hey give him a break he's still 'Young'.:woot2

Koolaid Time
08-14-2007, 08:38 PM
It does not matter if it is a huge rule or a small rule, it is a rule and along with missing the teams charter last year he is setting up presidence of him acting like he is better than the rules.

I can't find it on the Tacks website.. but was Pac-Thug ever benched by the Titans for violating a team rule?

Marcus
08-14-2007, 08:51 PM
Chicks were just hotter in the '70's.

I was born 20 years too late. If I were old enough to drive back then, I would have had a custom van with this bumper sticker.

http://www.choiceshirts.com/images/A1/26/A12656A-md-b.jpg

And I would have had a van like this.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/coreyvice/vanwht.jpg

Hey. Isn't that graghic on the van the same as Marcus' avatar? :D

Bump for Marcus. Hopefully he'll see the side of the van. It's almost identical to his avatar. LOL

Thanks for the PM to show me this Elle.

And Mr. White, you were right, I do believe the chicks were hotter back then.:)

The Dark Side of the Moon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Side_of_the_Moon) album was made the year I graduated from high school. I've had at least 3 record albums of it, an 8 track tape of it, (remember those?) a cassette of it, a CD, and a DVD. It still sells as of this day. It seems like the happiest, and saddest, and most memorable moments of my life occurred when it was playing in the background.

Van shows were a popular event back in the 60s and 70s. I didn't think I ever went to one without seeing a Floyd van of one type or another. I never had one back then, but if I did, it more than likely would have ended up black with a pyramid prism. And FYI, that van in the link was actually photographed by drummer Nick Mason himself during a concert, so yeah, it did make an impression.

As for my avatar, I like it because it shows everyone who my favorite band is. My long time friends from high school and the Navy see it, and they go "Of course, that's who you are." There have been times where I've thought about changing the avatar to the 20th or the 30th anniversary versions of it, (it shows them in the Wikipedia link) but I still like the original, and I don't think I'll ever change it.

ChildressTitanMan
08-14-2007, 08:55 PM
I can't find it on the Tacks website.. but was Pac-Thug ever benched by the Titans for violating a team rule?

He was benched for the away game against the Jags last season. Reason misdemeanor charges of spitting in a womans face in a nightclub.

The case was eventually dismissed & Jones was exonerated.The judge decided that woman in question was trying to get money ($50,000) from Jones.

Koolaid Time
08-14-2007, 09:04 PM
As for my avatar, I like it because it shows everyone who my favorite band is. My long time friends from high school and the Navy see it, and they go "Of course, that's who you are." There have been times where I've thought about changing the avatar to the 20th or the 30th anniversary versions of it, (it shows them in the Wikipedia link) but I still like the original, and I don't think I'll ever change it.

Were you at the Pink Floyd concert at Jeppensen/Robertson Stadium back in 1977?

Silver Oak
08-14-2007, 09:26 PM
I can't find it on the Tacks website.. but was Pac-Thug ever benched by the Titans for violating a team rule?

I think he would have been in camp if not for the commisioner stepping in and handing out some discipline. That team is in disarray, and until this latest vince issue with his wanting to sleep with his own blankey, they have shown little or no backbone in dealing with their players.

JohnsonFan
08-14-2007, 09:28 PM
the madden curse has officially begun its attack on vince

Marcus
08-14-2007, 10:01 PM
Were you at the Pink Floyd concert at Jeppensen/Robertson Stadium back in 1977?

1977 .. the Animals tour. The Jeppensen concert was on April 30th of 77. I was based in San Diego at the time, so I couldn't make it. But I was able to get to see the one at Anaheim Stadium a week later.

(heh . . . those two hits of sunshine that I dropped that night made it a reaally nice concert :))

I can't believe that was fricken 30 years ago . . . Holy ****!

CloakNNNdagger
08-14-2007, 11:06 PM
This apparently wasn't Young's first infraction...............when you're a rookie and the team leader and QB.........you can't even be responsible for being on a team flight?:


As for the off-field issues, remember this is a man who missed a team flight but was allowed to play last year. It was only a preseason game, so coach Jeff Fisher didn't hesitate to force him out against Washington for going home when he was supposed to stay at the team hotel. Young bolted the locker room without talking to the media, another blunder. Stand up for your mistakes, Vince.
Vince (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10295099)

JohnsonFan
08-14-2007, 11:24 PM
besides that he fought with one of his own teamates!:pirate:

Runner
08-14-2007, 11:35 PM
I doubt his dalliance is treated as anything more by his teammates than an opportunity to razz him about getting caught. These are young guys who joke around and break rules sometimes. This was a minor thing and I doubt he'll be doing it again. I'm absolutely positive Texans have broken curfew rules during training camp too.

I think there is a lot more excitement and discussion of the seriousness of his action and the interpolation of what it all means here on the board than the Titans' locker room.

JohnsonFan
08-14-2007, 11:45 PM
I doubt his dalliance is treated as anything more by his teammates than an opportunity to razz him about getting caught. These are young guys who joke around and break rules sometimes. This was a minor thing and I doubt he'll be doing it again. I'm absolutely positive Texans have broken curfew rules during training camp too.

I think there is a lot more excitement and discussion of the seriousness of his action and the interpolation of what it all means here on the board than the Titans' locker room.

i dont know, they said on espn he has done before and that he went to his coach and asked if he could sleep at his house cause it was a ritual and he said no, then he sill went and did it, i mean if he is going to do that 2 times i think he will do it agian! VY is a bad influence

Runner
08-14-2007, 11:55 PM
i dont know, they said on espn he has done before and that he went to his coach and asked if he could sleep at his house cause it was a ritual and he said no, then he sill went and did it, i mean if he is going to do that 2 times i think he will do it agian! VY is a bad influence

He must really be ruining that team. I don't know how he'll ever be able to lead them to victory again.:sarcasm:


The Titans certainly aren't a starched shirt corporate team, that's for sure. I know they've had/still have a couple of glaring bad apples, but still they are mainly a bunch of guys with similar ethics/morals as any team, even the Texans. I don't think they'll fall apart over Vince's bad example.

JohnsonFan
08-14-2007, 11:59 PM
He must really be ruining that team. I don't know how he'll ever be able to lead them to victory again.:sarcasm:


The Titans certainly aren't a starched shirt corporate team, that's for sure. I know they've had/still have a couple of glaring bad apples, but still they are mainly a bunch of guys with similar ethics/morals as any team, even the Texans. I don't think they'll fall apart over Vince's bad example.

yea i guess ur right

Runner
08-15-2007, 12:05 AM
yea i guess ur right

I just think it's kind of funny. What was the crime? He slept at home. He better hope the Feds don't catch wind of it. I'm sure there may be a little more to the story too, but I doubt a lot more.

I understand he may be setting himself up to be perceived by his teammates as being above the rules, and I know that can be a bad dynamic. A lot of stars get prima donna treatment if they win though; that happens across all sports.

JohnsonFan
08-15-2007, 12:21 AM
I just think it's kind of funny. What was the crime? He slept at home. He better hope the Feds don't catch wind of it. I'm sure there may be a little more to the story too, but I doubt a lot more.

I understand he may be setting himself up to be perceived by his teammates as being above the rules, and I know that can be a bad dynamic. A lot of stars get prima donna treatment if they win though; that happens across all sports.
its a team rule, they said it is and has been and every player knows and can follow it but young.. come on

Double Barrel
08-15-2007, 11:16 AM
Rules are for mortals. Vince is above all that nonsense. The sooner the Titans FO realizes their mistake of trying to harness Football God, the sooner they can get on with the business of winning the next 15 Super Bowls.

Noblesse Oblige
08-15-2007, 05:46 PM
DB, you forgot to add that he turns the world on with his smile.

Oh, wait. I keep confusing him with Mary Tyler Moore. My bad.

Re: your goal to hijack this thread, I believe you're going to make it after all.

Runner
08-15-2007, 06:09 PM
its a team rule, they said it is and has been and every player knows and can follow it but young.. come on

I wonder ...

I also wonder if any Texans have ever broken rules ... except for motorcycles, wreckless driving, DWI, girls in rooms at the hotel, etc.

Heath Shuler
08-15-2007, 06:13 PM
I wonder ...

I also wonder if any Texans have ever broken rules ... except for motorcycles, wreckless driving, DWI, girls in rooms at the hotel, etc.

I get the other references but who had girls in their hotel rooms?

Runner
08-15-2007, 06:22 PM
I get the other references but who had girls in their hotel rooms?

Just training camp hijinks - I should have said "girl" and "room" singular. I can't make it any less diaphanous than that.

Double Barrel
08-15-2007, 06:38 PM
I wonder ...

I also wonder if any Texans have ever broken rules ... except for motorcycles, wreckless driving, DWI, girls in rooms at the hotel, etc.

tsk, tsk...comparing mere mortals like Texans players to The Greatness. There's the basic flaw in your logic.

Koolaid Time
08-15-2007, 06:38 PM
Just training camp hijinks - I should have said "girl" and "room" singular. I can't make it any less diaphanous than that.

How about girls in A room?

Runner
08-15-2007, 06:45 PM
There's the basic flaw in your logic.

Nah - just in the double standard.

Everyone likes to hold Vince to a higher standard while at the same time stating he is less than special. I'm surprised the cognitive dissonance doesn't make people's heads fly apart.

Disclaimer: I did not want to choose Young in the draft, and his play has surprised me at the pro level. I admit that he's a lot more effective than I expected this early in his career.

Double Barrel
08-15-2007, 06:51 PM
Everyone likes to hold Vince to a higher standard while at the same time stating he is less than special.

I don't hold The Greatness to a higher standard. He is the higher standard! :cowboy1:

People that state he is less than special will be sacrificed at 2:00 p.m. on Thursday for blasphemy.

Runner
08-15-2007, 06:53 PM
People that state he is less than special will be sacrificed at 2:00 p.m. on Thursday for blasphemy.

I thought the Texans played the Titans on two Sundays this year - did I misread the schedule?

Texan_Bill
08-15-2007, 06:54 PM
I don't hold The Greatness to a higher standard. He is the higher standard! :cowboy1:

People that state he is less than special will be sacrificed at 2:00 p.m. on Thursday for blasphemy.

*note to self: start filling out will, leave the cat some food, enjoy one last porterhouse. Crap! Too much to do!! *

Double Barrel
08-15-2007, 06:58 PM
I thought the Texans played the Titans on two Sundays this year - did I misread the schedule?

ouch. Yeah, that's two of the home games for The Greatness.

*note to self: start filling out will, leave the cat some food, enjoy one last porterhouse. Crap! Too much to do!! *

Don't worry about the cat, as it'll have to be sacrificed, too. You probably muttered something blasphemous around it, so it is best that both of you be dealt with accordingly.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to spend my life savings on buying as many copies of this year's Madden that I can afford. Then I'll go pimp myself out for some more money for more copies.

Runner
08-15-2007, 07:00 PM
ouch.

Sorry; when someone throws up a softball like that somtimes I just have to take a swing .

Double Barrel
08-15-2007, 07:02 PM
Sorry; when someone throws up a softball like that somtimes I just have to take a swing .

The Greatness makes everything easy like Sunday morning.

My words are merely inspired by the subject matter....ummmm...amen.

JohnsonFan
08-15-2007, 08:16 PM
every one knows why titan players keep their iq tests in their windshields right? so they can park in handicap spots!

Runner
08-15-2007, 09:32 PM
every one knows why titan players keep their iq tests in their windshelds right? so they can park in handicap spots

I always proofread my posts three times before insulting someone else's intelligence.

hadaad
08-15-2007, 09:39 PM
I always proofread my posts three times before insulting someone else's intelligence.

Prudent. Some would say timid.

Runner
08-15-2007, 09:40 PM
Prudent. Some would say timid.

I don't like to look foolish.

Blazing Arrow
08-15-2007, 11:31 PM
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to spend my life savings on buying as many copies of this year's Madden that I can afford. Then I'll go pimp myself out for some more money for more copies.

The problem is when you run your franchise you will not be able to even trade all of next years draft plus the entire team to the Titans for Young.

You will just have to modify the rosters so you can have him.

Just think you could see a .500 season .... the playoffs ... dare I say it ....... maybe even a Super Bowl. :crying:

Well this is madden.

hadaad
08-15-2007, 11:49 PM
I don't like to look foolish.

I know, I know. I was just giving you a hard time. Or trying to, ya thick-skinned so-and-so.

You are one of the well-spoken few on this board, that's for sure.

TexanRevolution
08-16-2007, 03:33 AM
I would love to see Shammy's Wonderlic score but honestly no one ever cared enough to look at it even on draft day. I would not be suprised if they just let him pass on it. Why would a career backup QB need to take that test?

Let him pass on it...Ha! Interesting that you say that...IIRC, wasn't someone's first test mysteriously "graded incorrectly". Conspiracy theory perhaps?

Ah, well...since you asked so nicely; Matt Schaub scored a 30 on his Wonderlic...8 pts. higher than the combined scores of a certain Possum Holler QB. Come to think of it, that's higher than VY & Pac-Man's wonderlic scores put together (16+13=29 BTW)
Source (http://sportsyenta.blogspot.com/2007/02/bring-on-annual-wonderlic-fun.html)

But we'll give ol' Vinny-boy some credit, at least he answered his name correctly the first time around. So I guess functionally illiterate is the more fitting descriptor...sure glad he fits in with the constituency (Good thing too--3rd grade educations are hard to come by in Tinn-ee-cee)

http://ccn1.net/POTD6/texas-longhorns-national-champions/vince-young-longhorn-championship-trophy.jpg http://ccn1.net/POTD6/texas-longhorns-national-champions/vince-young-heisman-pose-crystal.jpg

On second thought, you're probably right...he shows genuine glimpses of pure genius!

TexanRevolution
08-16-2007, 03:43 AM
The problem is when you run your franchise you will not be able to even trade all of next years draft plus the entire team to the Titans for Young.

You will just have to modify the rosters so you can have him.

Just think you could see a .500 season .... the playoffs ... dare I say it ....... maybe even a Super Bowl. :crying:
Well this is madden.

And what does that say about your Tic-Tacs? 8-8 (and no playoffs, mind you) even with the aid of the "savior"? Hmmm...

Koolaid Time
08-16-2007, 08:43 AM
Well, Vince apologizes, sort of.....

"Young finally talked with reporters Monday about why coach Jeff Fisher benched him for the Titans' preseason opener, a 14-6 loss to Washington, after declining to speak immediately after Saturday night's game.

Broke the rules," Young said. "Can't play. Got to go by the rules."

Before the next question could be asked, Young said, "Next question, man. Next question."

Asked if he knew he had broken a team rule, Young added, "Next question."

Young said it felt like being punished by his mother for not doing his homework.

"It's in the past right now, and I'm moving on right now," he said."

Vince's act reminds me of this guy: "I'm sorry... I'm sorry.... .... I'm NOT sorry.... hahahahaha.

http://www.perkydesigns.com/Pee_Wee_herman-2.jpg

Texan_Bill
08-16-2007, 08:48 AM
The problem is when you run your franchise you will not be able to even trade all of next years draft plus the entire team to the Titans for Young.

You will just have to modify the rosters so you can have him.

Just think you could see a .500 season .... the playoffs ... dare I say it ....... maybe even a Super Bowl. :crying:

Well this is madden.

Rule breaking, illiterate, running backs are a dime a dozen!! "Ya know?"

Koolaid Time
08-16-2007, 09:07 AM
Rule breaking, illiterate, running backs are a dime a dozen!! "Ya know?"


Rule breaking, illiterate, running backs (that think they are Quarterbacks) are a dime a dozen!! "Ya know?"

CloakNNNdagger
08-16-2007, 09:55 AM
John McClain on 610 just reported the "truth" about Young's benching.............it's worse than what we have been suspecting.

Young asked Fischer for permission to spend the night at home instead of the hotel........Fischer said, "NO." Young defied his coach. Fischer benched him. Could it be that Pacman is still advising him?

Koolaid Time
08-16-2007, 10:45 AM
John McClain on 610 just reported the "truth" about Young's benching.............it's worse than what we have been suspecting.

Young asked Fischer for permission to spend the night at home instead of the hotel........Fischer said, "NO." Young defied his coach. Fischer benched him. Could it be that Pacman is still advising him?

Maybe Pacman.. or this person....
http://www.kellygarbato.com/wp-content/cartman006d_real.gif

Screw You Guys.... I'm going home....

Double Barrel
08-16-2007, 10:56 AM
John McClain on 610 just reported the "truth" about Young's benching.............it's worse than what we have been suspecting.

Young asked Fischer for permission to spend the night at home instead of the hotel........Fischer said, "NO." Young defied his coach. Fischer benched him. Could it be that Pacman is still advising him?

The Greatness knows that the head coach is a temporary position, while He's got a direct line to Darth Bud. Fisher is merely a speedbump to The Greatness.

TexanRevolution
08-16-2007, 10:58 AM
Maybe Pacman.. or this person....
http://www.kellygarbato.com/wp-content/cartman006d_real.gif

Screw You Guys.... I'm going home....

Classic! Simply classic!

Rule breaking, illiterate, running backs are a dime a dozen!! "Ya know?"

That's got signature written all over it!

infantrycak
08-16-2007, 11:08 AM
Interesting note from McClain this morning. He said VY asked Fisher about going home and was directly told no and then did it anyway. It is one thing to be ignorant of the rules and another to think you are above them.

hadaad
08-16-2007, 11:55 AM
It's the attitude that seems to be fostered on that team. If Haynesworth isn't stomping on someone's head, Pacman's showing his @ss to the public or Vince is flying in the face of authority.

I'm thinking them drafting a running back with the name Chris Henry wasn't a coincidence.

Blazing Arrow
08-16-2007, 12:05 PM
Ah, well...since you asked so nicely; Matt Schaub scored a 30 on his Wonderlic...8 pts. higher than the combined scores of a certain Possum Holler QB. Come to think of it, that's higher than VY & Pac-Man's wonderlic scores put together (16+13=29 BTW)


What was Carr's Wonderlic score again? :hmmm:

My point? It seems to have no bearing on how well a player even the QB does in the NFL. It seemed to make a huge difference in him winning the OROY award. :rolleyes:

Blazing Arrow
08-16-2007, 12:12 PM
And what does that say about your Tic-Tacs? 8-8 (and no playoffs, mind you) even with the aid of the "savior"? Hmmm...

My hypothetical suggested that games were played on Madden. In no realistic situation could the Texans make a super bowl, playoffs or even a .500 season.

source (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/htxindex.htm)

TexanRevolution
08-16-2007, 12:37 PM
What was Carr's Wonderlic score again? :hmmm:

My point? It seems to have no bearing on how well a player even the QB does in the NFL. It seemed to make a huge difference in him winning the OROY award. :rolleyes:

Carr's score was a 24, thanks for asking!

I don't think anyone said that the Wonderlic had direct implications on how well a player performs on the field. (You questioned MS's score, so it must have held some meaning to you).

Some of us just question the decision making capacity of your heroes in general (which may have implications on whether or not a player is able to play in this league...see pac-man). It seems to me the Wonderlic might be a good tool for gaining insight into one's decision making/critical thinking abilities (thousands of multi-national corporations use it for that purpose, FYI).

Your 'hypothetical' implies that VY is so good, that he can single-handedly lead an in-process team to the playoffs, and/or a superbowl. I see how well that worked for your titans...best of luck with that.

You'd probably do better hoping that he'll make the team flights, stay away from cat-fights, and spend the night where he's told. But I guess you can hope in one hand and spit in the other and we'll see which one fills up first...until then I'm not willing to crown him the next Sun Tzu.