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Immobilarity
07-30-2007, 08:07 AM
"Don't be quick to judge Vick" (http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070726/SPORTS/707230309/1075)

I would've never thought Mike Vick, one of the NFL's most exciting players the man who makes the network execs smile every time he plays would ever be indicted for crimes against man's best friend.

The potential impact could be devastating.

He could lose millions worth of endorsements. Nike has already suspended the release of his new shoe. He could lose millions he was supposed to get from the Atlanta Falcons, if the club decides to cut him. That's unlikely, but it could happen if he's convicted or makes a plea arrangement.

Or his reputation might wind up so stained that he's never forgiven in the court of public opinion. That would be too bad for the 27-year-old superstar.

This is all the result of perspective.

What a dog means to Vick might be a lot different than what he means to you or I. Hold on, don't start shaking your head just yet. Listen to me.

Some people kiss their dogs on the mouth. Some people let their dogs eat from their plate. Some people dress their dogs in suits more expensive than mine, if you can believe that.

And some people enjoy proving they have the biggest, toughest dog on the street. You're probably not going to believe this, but I bet Vick loves the dogs that were the biggest and the baddest. Maybe, he identified with them in some way.

You can still choose to condemn him, but I'm trying to take you inside his mind so you can understand where he might be coming from.

I'm sure all of the animal activists and Humane Society folks have a dart board with Vick's picture in the center of it. And if he plays this season, PETA is going to picket every stadium where he plays.

Still, I must ask the question: Where is all of this going?

By now you've read all of the accusations about the cruelty involving the dogs and I'm not just talking about their duels to the death. All of that is enough to make me cringe because I have three highly-trained protection German shepherds, just in case someone wants to rob my family.

Believe me, you don't want to deal with them. With one German command, our dog Yascho turns into Cujo. And for the record, I live around the corner from the police station, so it won't take them long to show up and save you from the dogs.

Now back to Vick.

Why are we indicting him? Was he the ringleader? Is he the big fish? Or is there someone else? The fights allegedly occurred at a property that he purchased for a family member. They apparently found carcasses on the property, but I must ask you again, is he the ringleader?

This situation reminds me of a scene in the movie "New Jack City," when drug dealer Nino Brown is on the witness stand and eloquently says, "This thing is bigger than me."

Are we using Vick to get to the ringleader? Are we using him to bring an end to dogfighting in the United States?

The only thing I can gather from this situation is that we're using Vick.

Was he wrong? Absolutely. Was he stupid? Can't argue with that. Was he immature? No doubt. But is he the ringleader? I just can't see it.

I believe Vick had a passion for dogfighting. I know many athletes who share his passion. The allure is the intensity and the challenge of a dog fighting to the death. It's like ultimate fighting, but the dog doesn't tap out when he knows he can't win.

It reminds me of when I wore a lot of jewelry back in the day because I always wanted to have the biggest chain or the biggest, baddest car. It gives you status.

Can I pause for a moment to ask you a question?

Who shot Darrant Williams? Remember the Denver Bronco cornerback? I'm just more concerned about bringing to justice someone who killed a human. Or finding out who broke into Miami Heat forward Antoine Walker's home, tied him up and robbed him at gunpoint.

We're attacking this dogfighting ring the same way a teenager attacks his MySpace page after school (by the way parents, make sure you monitor your kids). We should have the same passion for man that we have for man's best friend.

The reason this is turning into a three-ring circus is that baseball is boring, basketball is months away, football is around the corner and we in the media don't have a thing interesting to write about.

How will this end up? I have no idea. All I know is Falcons fans better pray because Vick's backup is Joey Harrington. Enough said.

God bless and God willing I'll hollah at you next week.

Deion Sanders, a North Fort Myers High School graduate, played in the NFL and Major League Baseball. He works as an analyst for the NFL Network and is part-owner of the Austin Wranglers of the Arena Football League.

Khari
07-30-2007, 10:16 AM
Deion Sanders is a dumbass

HoustonFrog
07-30-2007, 10:20 AM
That's why Sanders shouldn't be doing commentary. It was horrible. I am not sure he or others understand that the Feds or any local force is there to fight crime. They investigated like they would a drug ring, porn ring...whatever. It's getting the attention due to Vick but that is his own damn fault. When a ring covers a multi-state area, then you have problems. I'm tired of people trying to put this to rest like some kids were forcing dogs to fight in a backyard or a culture thing. Deion defended him without defending him..pretty much called him naive and dumb but defended him.

The Dream
07-30-2007, 10:41 AM
Deion normally says some stupid things, but he did a good job with this. Let me start off by saying that "I am a dog lover", with that being said I really don't see the point of having the feds all over this case when there are a lot more important things they should be dealing with. As much as our society "loves" dogs you can still find those same people who hunt not only to eat, but for sport also..and lets not even talk about slaughter houses..........it comes down to perspective. Vick might view dogs as someone who's out hunting a wild hog

We're attacking this dogfighting ring the same way a teenager attacks his MySpace page after school (by the way parents, make sure you monitor your kids). We should have the same passion for man that we have for man's best friend.

HOU-TEX
07-30-2007, 11:22 AM
Deion Sanders is a dumbass

I 2nd this motion.:cool:

TexanSam
07-30-2007, 11:26 AM
He's a horrible writer. It was hard to read, but I did it. Meh. He's trying to defend Vick in a different sort of manner it seems.

The Dream
07-30-2007, 11:35 AM
he's not trying to defend him...do you people actually read?, lol...he even said what he did was "horrible", but what he was saying is that Vick's view on dogs isn't the same as other people in our culture....and I do agree with that.

Second Honeymoon
07-30-2007, 11:37 AM
I r Deion. I wub Vick. My dogz r meen. Peepel > Dogz. I ware gold chainz. Vick iz vicktim. Joey sux. MySpace iz dum. Watch ur kidz on cumpooter.

I just wanted to paraphrase Sander's article. What a mental giant he is.....

My favorite part is how half of the article is about himself. What a ego freak. I didn't mind Deion during his time in the NFL but he has been a train wreck ever since his career ended. Now he is rationalizing Vick's behavior and portraying the guy as a victim. HAHAHAHAH. good one Deion.

Kaiser Toro
07-30-2007, 12:17 PM
Deion could be a tard on the field, but back it up on every single play. He does not have that luxury here as the brand continues to get sullied through Sanders' tacit Chewbacca defense.

If I were Goodell I would institute a complete gag rule for anyone who represents an interest in the NFL until Vick has his days in court.

Double Barrel
07-30-2007, 12:29 PM
Sanders is using the "moral relativism" argument (i.e. 'because some cultures condone behavior that we don't like, we have no right to condemn it').

However, the fact that Vick has allegedly committed several felonies supersedes the a/m moral relativist perspective.

GP
07-30-2007, 04:16 PM
Perhaps the most ignorant thing I have ever read.

Deion, Deion, Deion....

Stop the insanity, Prime Time. I haven't see this much justifying and rationalizing and semantics since Clinton-Lewinski.

The Feds are "using" Vick to get to the ring leader? LOL. No, they are going to take down the HUGE Vick Family Dog Fighting Ring that sounds to be a pretty darn large ring itself. One at a time is OK with me, fwiw.

Goldensilence
07-30-2007, 04:42 PM
I r Deion. I wub Vick. My dogz r meen. Peepel > Dogz. I ware gold chainz. Vick iz vicktim. Joey sux. MySpace iz dum. Watch ur kidz on cumpooter.

I just wanted to paraphrase Sander's article. What a mental giant he is.....

My favorite part is how half of the article is about himself. What a ego freak. I didn't mind Deion during his time in the NFL but he has been a train wreck ever since his career ended. Now he is rationalizing Vick's behavior and portraying the guy as a victim. HAHAHAHAH. good one Deion.

Too funny. Do agree half the article is about himself; classic primetime.

As for his defense of Vick...I know most of the Media is lampooning Vick and this case and a lot of people calling it DOA. I think some of the football players at least feel the need to at least defend a member of the NFL "elite" if you will. For his talk about Darrent Williams and Antione. Antione is no longer that caliber player that will get that sort of media circus and while Darrent's case is really a tradgedy and i hope those that are left find some measure of justice. I think It's better Darrent's case is under the radar cause without the circus to follow maybe something will get done faster and better.

I'm more interested in seeing things play out in a court of law before making any real judgements. I will say that things really don't look good for Vick.