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Specnatz
07-23-2007, 05:02 PM
Signed fifth-round draft pick S Brandon Harrison, sixth-round draft pick G Kasey Studdard and free-agent punter Matt Turk. Released to waivers: G Atlas Herrion, G Enoka Lucas, FB Cory Anderson, RB Darius Walker, DB Derrick Roberson, LB Zac Woodfin, P Eric Wilbur

Damn I was realing hoping (rb) Darius Walker and (fb) Cory Anderson would at least make it into training camp because I do not like Cook as a FB and I thought Walker would be wonderful option as a third down back.

real
07-23-2007, 05:04 PM
I believe I called Walker not making it a while ago...

the wonger need food
07-23-2007, 05:07 PM
Wow... I'm kind of shocked that Anderson and Walker are already out.

Texans_Chick
07-23-2007, 05:09 PM
The signficant thing is that Matt Turk was signed. This may anger the Chad.

Turk (6-5, 240) has played in 171 games in 11 pro seasons for four teams, including all 16 games last year with the St. Louis Rams. Turk’s career net punting average of 37.3 yards per punt is the best in the NFL since he entered the league in 1995. Only 335 of Turk’s 862 career punts (38.8 percent) of his punts have been returned.


Last year with St. Louis, Turk averaged 43.5 yards per punt on 72 attempts, and his net average was 38.3 yards per punt. His net averaged ranked seventh in the league, and he had 26 punts downed inside the 20 versus just five touchbacks.


Darius Walker released may get some folks' attention because of the ND thing.

Yankee_In_TX
07-23-2007, 05:12 PM
Whew! One less Leprechaun, and my Buckeye is still in place.

TexanAddict
07-23-2007, 05:12 PM
Looks like there won't be any competition for Stanley in training camp after all. And I expect there to be a huge outcry from all those that thought Walker must be placed on the active roster because he would be heavily pursued and immediately picked up if placed on the practice squad. I personally was hoping Anderson and Lucas would at least get a chance in camp (I also would like a better option than Cook if we are going to carry to FBs).

Errant Hothy
07-23-2007, 05:13 PM
There goes a good chunk of the UDFA class. I hope this is a sign that the competition for playing time on the Texans is starting to heat up.

Roberson was the USDA I was kinda rooting for.

And Turk should beat out Chad for the job.

TexanAddict
07-23-2007, 05:14 PM
The signficant thing is that Matt Turk was signed. This may anger the Chad.

Darius Walker released may get some folks' attention because of the ND thing.

Hadn't seen this signing. Guess there might be some competition for Stanley yet.

Specnatz
07-23-2007, 05:22 PM
Whew! One less Leprechaun, and my Buckeye is still in place.

72 Black, Jordan T 6-5 310 Notre Dame 4
26 Earl, Glenn SS 6-1 215 Notre Dame 4
98 Weaver, Anthony DE 6-3 280 Notre Dame 6
42 Mitchell, Brandon * S 6-3 205 Ohio State University 0


Still 3 to 1 my friend :user:


Texas_Chick, in all honesty I just thought he could had a lot on third down, not an every down back or even a speed back.


I am really glad that there is still competition for shanks job.

the wonger need food
07-23-2007, 05:28 PM
Dang... I just noticed Enoka Lucas on this list. He was supposed to be one of the 5 best Centers coming out.

disaacks3
07-23-2007, 05:31 PM
Looks like there won't be any competition for Stanley in training camp after all. And I expect there to be a huge outcry from all those that thought Walker must be placed on the active roster because he would be heavily pursued and immediately picked up if placed on the practice squad. I personally was hoping Anderson and Lucas would at least get a chance in camp (I also would like a better option than Cook if we are going to carry to FBs).
Matt Turk doesn't qualify as competition?

Goldensilence
07-23-2007, 05:32 PM
Dang... I just noticed Enoka Lucas on this list. He was supposed to be one of the 5 best Centers coming out.

I had hopes too on that Wonger. Just don't think Hodg. is going to cut it after Flanigan.I was really hoping to address the C position this year.

real
07-23-2007, 05:32 PM
Hogdon is a fine center.

Porky
07-23-2007, 05:32 PM
I am mildly surprised about Lucas. I thought he might have a chance to make the practice squad, although it was going to be a long shot to make the active roster.

But, I am much more suprised at Cory Anderson and Darius Walker.

I thought Anderson was going to give Cook a real run for his money. Even if they are set at only keeping one FB, why show your cards so early? What if Leach is injured in preseason and out for the year? They are telling me that in that case, they would rather have Cook over at least seeing what Anderson can do? And he might at least be a PS candidate himself. Very shortsighted imo.

I kind of feel the same way about Darius Walker. Here is a guy that might be able to compete for a 3rd down back role. Good pass catcher, which is what you want. I know there is a real log jam at rb, but again, you never know with injuries and the like. With quality FA's like these, at least you know you can fall back on someone that is capable of playing a role in the NFL.

Unless these guys were dogging it in OTA's or there is something else we just don't know, then I think this is a very shortsighted decision. You haven't even seen these guys in one single pre-season game. :gun:

real
07-23-2007, 05:34 PM
Ahman is the best third down back we have.

Porky
07-23-2007, 05:36 PM
Ahman is the best third down back we have.

And when Ahman gets injured or needs a breather?

real
07-23-2007, 05:36 PM
Gado, Chris Taylor, Ron Dayne

Why rely on a rookie of Walker's caliber to be your third down back ?

nunusguy
07-23-2007, 05:37 PM
Dang... I just noticed Enoka Lucas on this list. He was supposed to be one of the 5 best Centers coming out.

That surprised me to, because we are getting rather long in the tooth at center so we are going to need a youthful transfusion at some point in time there and reportedly some were very surprised that this guy was undrafted.
But in general I didn't realize they'd start cutting players before anybody did any poppin ?
I dunno, maybe some players are released right away because of an early perceived attitude problem or if they show up in poor condidtion ?

Porky
07-23-2007, 05:40 PM
Gado, Chris Taylor, Ron Dayne

Why rely on a rookie of Walker's caliber to be your third down back ?

How do you know what calibur he is until he plays games?

Just ask Priest Holmes and Terrell Davis among others. Or do you just think because he was undrafted, he can't play? In case you forgot, two out of the three players you mentioned were udfa's as well.

Goldensilence
07-23-2007, 05:45 PM
That surprised me to, because we are getting rather long in the tooth at center so we are going to need a youthful transfusion at some point in time there and reportedly some were very surprised that this guy was undrafted.
But in general I didn't realize they'd start cutting players before anybody did any poppin ?
I dunno, maybe some players are released right away because of an early perceived attitude problem or if they show up in poor condidtion ?

Maybe the speculation that was floating around here with Studdard being drafted ....he might get a look at Center?

Might be a wild one...but just a thought.

real
07-23-2007, 05:45 PM
How do you know what calibur he is until he plays games?

Just ask Priest Holmes and Terrell Davis among others. Or do you just think because he was undrafdted, he can't play? In case you forgot, two out of the three players you mentioned were udfa's as well.

Hi, I'm xtru...nice to meet you Porky....

Has nothing to do with his draft status and everything to do with what he can possilbly bring to the table...He isn't explosive, isn't what I'd consider to be a great runner, isn't overly powerful...

I think he's a solid back and if not for the depth we already have I think he could be a decent addition to a ball club...I think he's the type of back that if he trains hard he could be a role player in about 2 yrs....

I just don't see what the hoopla was about him other than the fact that he was decent catching the ball out of the backfield...We have other backs who can catch out of the backfield + are more explosive runners + have the experience edge...

I posted this a while ago and I'll stick to it:

Dayne, Gado, Lundy, Taylor, Walker....

In that order...

After Green, that's my order for right now...

I see the ability in Taylor for him to make a push all the way up to the 2nd RB, but as of right now this is how I'd rank 'em...we'll see if it holds true..

Marcus
07-23-2007, 05:54 PM
Unless these guys were dogging it in OTA's or there is something else we just don't know, then I think this is a very shortsighted decision. You haven't even seen these guys in one single pre-season game. :gun:

There are many, many things going on that have to do with people getting cut before training camp.

Calling it shortsighted is, well . . . shortsighted.

Second Honeymoon
07-23-2007, 05:55 PM
'The Chad' sucks and needs to go away. Why he is still in the league is a mystery. Maybe Leonard Nimoy and the cast of 'In Search Of' can figure out this age old mystery.

nunusguy
07-23-2007, 06:03 PM
Maybe the speculation that was floating around here with Studdard being drafted ....he might get a look at Center?

Might be a wild one...but just a thought.
Perhaps you're right.
I'd been puzzled about their interest in Studdard to start with, but others more informed than me have pointed out that under new OC Sherman the Texans may be more inclined to move towards a power game that would tend to favor Studdard.
Somebody earlier expressed their support of Hodgdon but I think he to would suffer in a more power orieted offense, as he already has struggled quite a bit in the ZB system and he is smallish.

Texan_Bill
07-23-2007, 06:04 PM
The signficant thing is that Matt Turk was signed. This may anger the Chad.



Darius Walker released may get some folks' attention because of the ND thing.

Isn't Matt Turk like 67 years old? That would upset me too if I were the Chad...

real
07-23-2007, 06:50 PM
Somebody earlier expressed their support of Hodgdon but I think he to would suffer in a more power orieted offense, as he already has struggled quite a bit in the ZB system and he is smallish.

I don't think we're building to be a power team...I think Kubiak still wants to eventually become a ZBS oriented offense. Sherman is the power guy and my gut tells me Sherman ain't gonna be here forever...Especially if we start to show signs of success on offense...

I think Hogdon is a decent center. Whether or not he makes it to the roster will have to be seen. I think he does. I think he struggles in the power blocking game, but I like him in the ZBS...

As far as Studdard goes I think he will be good depth, nothing more...He's a guy that played on a big time stage against big time players. He works hard and I see him developing into a solid player. On top of that he plays with fire and a mean streak...I don't see him being picked as a starter though...I think they're pretty happy with Pitts and Weary at the guard spots...JMO...

real
07-23-2007, 06:55 PM
And also these guys will probably still technically be doing a lot of zone blocking. They will probably just run more inside zone vs. the outside zone stuff that Denver uses a lot of. I'd be a little surprised if they just man blocked...That's a little elementary...

GuerillaBlack
07-23-2007, 07:34 PM
I liked Walker. He will probably get picked up quickly.

Hagar
07-23-2007, 07:40 PM
Released to waivers: G Atlas Herrion, G Enoka Lucas, FB Cory Anderson, RB Darius Walker, DB Derrick Roberson, LB Zac Woodfin, P Eric WilburGeez, this guy didn't even make it through the month.Texans | Woodfin signed
Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:55:22 -0700

The Houston Texans have announced they have signed street free-agent LB Zac Woodfin. Terms of the contract were not disclosed.

nunusguy
07-23-2007, 08:38 PM
And also these guys will probably still technically be doing a lot of zone blocking. They will probably just run more inside zone vs. the outside zone stuff that Denver uses a lot of. I'd be a little surprised if they just man blocked...That's a little elementary...

In another thread the other day, others provided some links to remarks made by Sherman since he's become the OC indicating he's interested in a more "blended" approach utilizing both schemes in his plans for the OLine than what was initially installed last year.
With TC now on the verge of beginning (thank god !), we should definitely get clarification about what they've got in mind.

BattleRedToro
07-23-2007, 08:39 PM
Geez, this guy didn't even make it through the month.

I hope he got a signing bonus. :pirate:

vtech9
07-23-2007, 09:26 PM
I am mildly surprised about Lucas. I thought he might have a chance to make the practice squad, although it was going to be a long shot to make the active roster.

But, I am much more suprised at Cory Anderson and Darius Walker.

I thought Anderson was going to give Cook a real run for his money. Even if they are set at only keeping one FB, why show your cards so early? What if Leach is injured in preseason and out for the year? They are telling me that in that case, they would rather have Cook over at least seeing what Anderson can do? And he might at least be a PS candidate himself. Very shortsighted imo.

I kind of feel the same way about Darius Walker. Here is a guy that might be able to compete for a 3rd down back role. Good pass catcher, which is what you want. I know there is a real log jam at rb, but again, you never know with injuries and the like. With quality FA's like these, at least you know you can fall back on someone that is capable of playing a role in the NFL.

Unless these guys were dogging it in OTA's or there is something else we just don't know, then I think this is a very shortsighted decision. You haven't even seen these guys in one single pre-season game. :gun:

This really doesn't make much sense to me. They released several young guys that I thought they would keep around for camp. Since the rookies reported yesterday, they might have had some weight issues, or maybe didn't know the playbook as well as Kubiak wanted them to. Why release them before camp even starts? Why not at least let them go through one preseason game to see if they would be viable practice squad guys?

the wonger need food
07-23-2007, 09:36 PM
Since the rookies reported yesterday, they might have had some weight issues, or maybe didn't know the playbook as well as Kubiak wanted them to.


Never really thought about that... maybe they were asked to learn the playbook and failed their tests. Or maybe they're simply not NFL material based on the coaches evaluations. Either way, we will probably never get the full story.

aj.
07-23-2007, 09:45 PM
They need to be at 80, plus exemptions by the time camp starts. They were carrying too many guys on the roster.

If you can't make the 80, there's a high probability that you can't make the 53.

Wolf
07-23-2007, 10:48 PM
http://www.kffl.com/team/18/NFL

Texans | Woodfin released
Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:17:20 -0700

The Houston Texans have announced they have released LB Zac Woodfin.

Texans | Wilbur released
Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:16:55 -0700

The Houston Texans have announced they have released P Eric Wilbur.

Texans | Walker released
Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:16:15 -0700

The Houston Texans have announced they have released RB Darius Walker.

Texans | Roberson released
Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:15:49 -0700

The Houston Texans have announced they have released CB Derrick Roberson.

Texans | Lucas released
Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:15:25 -0700

The Houston Texans have announced they have released C Enoka Lucas.

Texans | Herrion released
Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:15:10 -0700

The Houston Texans have announced they have released OT Atlas Herrion.

Texans | Co. Anderson released
Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:14:45 -0700

The Houston Texans have announced they have released FB Cory Anderson.

Texans | Turk signed
Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:14:22 -0700

The Houston Texans have announced they have signed unrestricted free-agent P Matt Turk (Rams). Terms of the contract were not disclosed.


Woodfin didn't last long

competition at punter now

Kaiser Toro
07-23-2007, 10:54 PM
Newbomb Turk at Punter. I hope this becomes a reality so that I can dust off of my Hollywood Knights references.

Looking forward to seeing Abbate in camp.

kiwitexansfan
07-23-2007, 10:55 PM
My first reaction to the list was to wonder about the wasted money spent on Woodfin, seems like a strange thing to do... I know there a lot of guys signed on that won't make the roster but 2 weeks is an awfully fast turn around period to lose interset in a player.

I like the Turk pick up too.

BattleRedToro
07-23-2007, 11:36 PM
Newbomb Turk at Punter. I hope this becomes a reality so that I can dust off of my Hollywood Knights references.

Volare! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geUmPqGCwtk&mode=related&search=)

Michelle Pfeiffer was 21 or 22 yrs old when that movie was filmed and drop dead gorgeous.

aj.
07-24-2007, 08:12 AM
My first reaction to the list was to wonder about the wasted money spent on Woodfin,.

Exactly how much money did they waste?

These fringe guys that teams (all teams) bring in during the offseason are signed to letter contracts with small bonuses and a stipend that typically has the net effect of slightly more than nothing.

real
07-24-2007, 09:47 AM
This really doesn't make much sense to me. They released several young guys that I thought they would keep around for camp. Since the rookies reported yesterday, they might have had some weight issues, or maybe didn't know the playbook as well as Kubiak wanted them to. Why release them before camp even starts? Why not at least let them go through one preseason game to see if they would be viable practice squad guys?

Maybe they had bad attitdes.

Or maybe Kubiak did them a favor. Maybe he felt like they were fairly talented, but had no chance of making our team and he cut them early so they still had time to get into another teams camp.

Or Maybe he just didn't think they were all that good.

nunusguy
07-24-2007, 10:22 AM
Or Maybe he just didn't think they were all that good.
But how do you know if an OLineman is of any value to you, one way or the other, until you line him on a DLineman and they go Mano Mano to see which one is the butt-kicker and which one is the butt-kickee ?

real
07-24-2007, 10:28 AM
But how do you know if an OLineman is of any value to you, one way or the other, until you line him on a DLineman and they go Mano Mano to see which one is the butt-kicker and which one is the butt-kickee ?


From my understanding the Linemen were being pretty physical all throughout camp. Okoye said that it was a big difference from college because even though they didn't have pads on they were going at it like they did.

I don't think it's all that unreasonable to have gone through the workouts and have seen something in these guys that made the weary...All of these guys didn't have to get cut for the same reason either. I think thats the biggest key, and it was really what I was hinting at. All of these guys could have been cut for various reasons listed in this thread.

HoustonFrog
07-24-2007, 10:48 AM
Maybe they had bad attitdes.

Or maybe Kubiak did them a favor. Maybe he felt like they were fairly talented, but had no chance of making our team and he cut them early so they still had time to get into another teams camp.

Or Maybe he just didn't think they were all that good.

Good points. On top of that you have to look at who is on the team. This isn't fantasy football where you can just stash guys in case of injuries. You need guys who can play and who have roles. Right now we have Ahman Green who will get a bulk of carries. Then you have Dayne and Taylor, a sleeper that people wanted to see from last year. Add to that Gado, a vet with this system experience and Lundy, with system experience and where is Darius Walker going to fit. Many of these guys, like Cory at FB, may still be out there if things aren't going to plan. I just think it is how they run their system and you can't just have a full roster of "this guys may break out if 4 guys get hurt." Those are time and place decisions.

BleedBattleRed
07-24-2007, 11:04 AM
It's like Rick Smith said, We want to be in a position where we have to cut "good" players. That means are team is getting stronger.

cuppacoffee
07-24-2007, 11:09 AM
I liked Walker. He will probably get picked up quickly.

I visit several ND sites. There are posters who believe Darius come out early because he would have had a difficult time starting in the Irish backfield this year....idonno:

Personally I liked the guy and thought he did a good job for the Irish last year.

Someone else will take a look at him. IIRC we out talked Chicago for his signature this year.


:coffee:

HOU-TEX
07-24-2007, 11:20 AM
I visit several ND sites. There are posters who believe Darius come out early because he would have had a difficult time starting in the Irish backfield this year....idonno:

Personally I liked the guy and thought he did a good job for the Irish last year.

Someone else will take a look at him. IIRC we out talked Chicago for his signature this year.


:coffee:

No offense cup, but I think the Irish could've had better seasons with a good running game. IMO, that's why they never really won against good teams. The opposing team would rush Quinn due to a mediocre running game.

I never really thought Walker was that good at hitting the holes with any kind of speed.

I watched them quite often because my dad graduated from Purdue. I've kinda enjoyed ribbing him over the past few years.:cool:

real
07-24-2007, 11:27 AM
I never really thought Walker was that good at hitting the holes with any kind of speed.


Same thing I thought...

I just honestly don't think he's all that good...I watched him a lot last year as well and I wasn't impressed...

Vinny
07-24-2007, 11:31 AM
Cutting some street FA's and undrafted players isn't a shock....all NFL teams are cutting guys to get to their roster limits....teams sign guys and they know that most of the guys they sign won't make it...it's just a part of the yearly deal trying to leave no stone unturned. I guess my favorite college FB Cory Anderson showed me why he wasn't drafted to begin with.

cuppacoffee
07-24-2007, 11:54 AM
No offense cup, but I think the Irish could've had better seasons with a good running game. IMO, that's why they never really won against good teams. The opposing team would rush Quinn due to a mediocre running game.

I never really thought Walker was that good at hitting the holes with any kind of speed.

I watched them quite often because my dad graduated from Purdue. I've kinda enjoyed ribbing him over the past few years.:cool:


No offense taken...:cool:

Unlike fans of a certain team in this state, which won't be named, I refrain from pimping players from ND.

Although, admittedly, during the DavieHam years there wasn't much to pimp about.

But check out my avatar. :D

Darius stats from last year aren't to shabby though:

1267 yds on 255 carries for 7 TDs and a 5.0 avg.

391 yds and a TD on 56 catches...

But you are correct about his lack of speed.



:coffee:

Specnatz
07-24-2007, 02:19 PM
No offense cup, but I think the Irish could've had better seasons with a good running game. IMO, that's why they never really won against good teams. The opposing team would rush Quinn due to a mediocre running game.

I never really thought Walker was that good at hitting the holes with any kind of speed.

I watched them quite often because my dad graduated from Purdue. I've kinda enjoyed ribbing him over the past few years.:cool:

I said all along that Walker did not have but avg speed at best, but he can catch out of the back field and he was not a dog at picking up the blitz.

And Vinny he was the other player I was looking at hoping he could show something, mainly because the alternative is cook is the back-up FB. And that is never a good thing.

real
07-24-2007, 02:32 PM
I said all along that Walker did not have but avg speed at best, but he can catch out of the back field and he was not a dog at picking up the blitz.

And Vinny he was the other player I was looking at hoping he could show something, mainly because the alternative is cook is the back-up FB. And that is never a good thing.

Abbate

Rex King
07-24-2007, 05:21 PM
Exactly how much money did they waste?

These fringe guys that teams (all teams) bring in during the offseason are signed to letter contracts with small bonuses and a stipend that typically has the net effect of slightly more than nothing.

But the Woodfin thing is kind of bizarre. I don't think he even suited up for a single practice, did he?? Perhaps making room for another FA? Or just miscounted...76, 77, 78 - Dang, Rachel Weisz looks hot! Where was I? Crap. 1, 2...

threetoedpete
07-25-2007, 12:07 PM
Looks like there won't be any competition for Stanley in training camp after all. And I expect there to be a huge outcry from all those that thought Walker must be placed on the active roster because he would be heavily pursued and immediately picked up if placed on the practice squad. I personally was hoping Anderson and Lucas would at least get a chance in camp (I also would like a better option than Cook if we are going to carry to FBs).

If Speluveda would of fallen in day one and the Texans had passed on him, there would of been a few of us pitching hissy fits over that one. The fact that the Steelers scooped him up in the fourth is a prety fair indication that he was precieved as a high end fifteen year guy. Would of been nice.

I think the Texan's did Walker a favor. He now has a chance to catch on with the Bears who were courting him also at the free agent sgining period. The staff must of thought he wouldn't have a fair shot at making the final roster with the compitition that was in camp. Gado and Dayne ain't going anywhere.


As far as Cook is concerned, I keep reading you guys running him out of town on a rail. And I keep think that someone in authority with the Texan's , inspite of all of his warts, likes the guy. Just saying. Brace yourselves.

Errant Hothy
07-25-2007, 12:15 PM
I'm not sure that I'm buying this whole "the Texans did Walker a favor by cutting him so he could catch one somewhere else" idea. Mainly because there are a lot of players being cut currently as there always are this time of year; and if Walker was as in as much demand as some of us think he is then there would surly be a team willing to cut one more spare to make the room to sign him. Also if Walker isn't good enough to earn a spot on the Texans rsoter (I mean c'mon with all the quality depth we have at the RB spot) what makes some people think that he's good enought to catch on somewhere else?

threetoedpete
07-25-2007, 12:26 PM
I'm not sure that I'm buying this whole "the Texans did Walker a favor by cutting him so he could catch one somewhere else" idea. Mainly because there are a lot of players being cut currently as there always are this time of year; and if Walker was as in as much demand as some of us think he is then there would surly be a team willing to cut one more spare to make the room to sign him. Also if Walker isn't good enough to earn a spot on the Texans rsoter (I mean c'mon with all the quality depth we have at the RB spot) what makes some people think that he's good enought to catch on somewhere else?

Well I'm not in the room of course. But they gave the guy a good sniff and honestly didn't believe he would make the roster. I don't know if he will be picked up or not. What I do know is that several gurus had him as one of the best rookie undrafted guys out there. Someone will give the guy a sniff. People will start getting hurt the next few weeks. Someone else will give him a shot. I thought he did prety good for the golden doomers considering the tallnet they feilded last year on the o-line. He knows the system and is hard nosed and can catch the ball. That should be enough for a roster spot.

Errant Hothy
07-25-2007, 01:59 PM
My point is that if the Teaxans didn't even think he was good enough to possibly make teh practice squad the odds are that he's just not as good as we thought he was coming out of ND.

And I'd be more surprised that Walker signs on with omebody else then if he goes unsigned.

powerfuldragon
07-25-2007, 02:11 PM
The signficant thing is that Matt Turk was signed. This may anger the Chad.


No!

badboy
07-25-2007, 03:33 PM
That surprised me to, because we are getting rather long in the tooth at center so we are going to need a youthful transfusion at some point in time there and reportedly some were very surprised that this guy was undrafted.
But in general I didn't realize they'd start cutting players before anybody did any poppin ?
I dunno, maybe some players are released right away because of an early perceived attitude problem or if they show up in poor condidtion ?As it stands today with no proof of how draft helped us for 2007, I'd draft 2008 as round 1: CB 3:FS 4: center. My assumption is even if Black does not win starter by end of season, Spencer should be back by 2008 at LT.

badboy
07-25-2007, 03:38 PM
I hope he got a signing bonus. :pirate:
His momma said she needed him at home.

Errant Hothy
07-25-2007, 04:41 PM
One of the UDFAs has been picked up

Buccaneers | Team claims E. Lucas off waivers
Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:21:12 -0700

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers announced Wednesday, July 25, that they have claimed C Enoka Lucas (Texans) off waivers from the Houston Texans.

per www.kffl.com

Texans Horror
07-25-2007, 04:51 PM
So much for all those posts about Walker making a splash this year and the tip that he was taken by the Texans because he was one of the top candidates for that third positions spot. I'll assume that Lundy has a better chance of starting for the Texans than Walker now.

rickyb
07-25-2007, 04:59 PM
Newbomb Turk at Punter. I hope this becomes a reality so that I can dust off of my Hollywood Knights references.

NICE!

ObsiWan
07-25-2007, 07:50 PM
So much for all those posts about Walker making a splash this year and the tip that he was taken by the Texans because he was one of the top candidates for that third positions spot. I'll assume that Lundy has a better chance of starting for the Texans than Walker now.

Walker might have lost out due to lack of top end speed. NFL Draft Scout said: COMPARES TO - Chester Taylor, MINN. Like Taylor, Walker needs to be in an offense that won't ask him to be a playmaker, but rather a chain-mover. He is a fine receiver out of the backfield but is not a power back and certainly doesn't have the speed to consistenly take the ball to the house at the next level. Like Taylor and Philidelphia's Correll Buckhalter, he will make a decent living as a blue-collar type rather than showing blue chip pedigree.

That says to me that Chris Taylor and Wali Lundy must be faster - or have more of a "burst" as John Madden would say. If you think about our philosophy, its make one cut, hit the hole hard, and leave the defense behind. Perhaps Walker didn't have that "leave the defense behind" speed....

threetoedpete
07-26-2007, 10:13 AM
My point is that if the Teaxans didn't even think he was good enough to possibly make teh practice squad the odds are that he's just not as good as we thought he was coming out of ND.

And I'd be more surprised that Walker signs on with omebody else then if he goes unsigned.

Or...they thought the move would be waisted because someone would just sign him off the parctice squad anyway. plus if they thought, and I do not know if it's true, if the guy can't block, he can't block. If he can't hit the hole like they like...yeah could be a tallent thingy. I believe it was a numbers thingy.

real
07-26-2007, 11:06 AM
I think it was a numbers thing and a talent thing. You don't cut a guy this early if you think he has talent. You atleast wait until the pads are on to see what kind of ball player you really are.

I don't think they were totally disgusted with the guy, but I do believe that his talent level played a part in the decision. If he couldn't beat out Wali Lundy...he's no that good...

BTW Wali is probably the next back in line to go....

Mike Kerns
07-26-2007, 11:10 AM
BTW Wali is probably the next back in line to go....

I Agree.

TK_Gamer
07-26-2007, 11:18 AM
BTW Wali is probably the next back in line to go....

I agree, I trully believe we end up with green, dayne, gado and taylor at RB

Kubiak said he was working Abate out at FB so Taylor probably wont be filling the specialist FB spot, wich means he makes the RB rotation or he or Lundy is not gonna make it. IMHO I think Lundy gets cut. I just dont see Kubiak carrying 5 running backs.

Pantherstang84
07-26-2007, 11:24 AM
I agree, I trully believe we end up with green, dayne, gado and taylor at RB

Kubiak said he was working Abate out at FB so Taylor probably wont be filling the specialist FB spot, wich means he makes the RB rotation or he or Lundy is not gonna make it. IMHO I think Lundy gets cut. I just dont see Kubiak carrying 5 running backs.

I truly believe that if CT can get his fumblitis under control, he can be the franchise back we are all looking for. I saw him on "Inside Mini-Camp" on NFLN a few months ago. He definitely has the one cut and go down. I saw him make a couple of beautiful cuts during that show and he was gone gone. The kid seems to have good vision and some serious wheels. Cure his fumblitis and Lundy or Gado is on the bubble.

ObsiWan
07-26-2007, 11:48 AM
I truly believe that if CT can get his fumblitis under control, he can be the franchise back we are all looking for. I saw him on "Inside Mini-Camp" on NFLN a few months ago. He definitely has the one cut and go down. I saw him make a couple of beautiful cuts during that show and he was gone gone. The kid seems to have good vision and some serious wheels. Cure his fumblitis and Lundy or Gado is on the bubble.

I saw that show too. Taylor was totally explosive in the play they showed. He outran our LBs who seemed to have angles on him.

Gado and Lundy's only chance may be to make a special teams impact; don't laugh, That's how Terrell Davis made Denver's squad.

Goldensilence
07-26-2007, 02:39 PM
I truly believe that if CT can get his fumblitis under control, he can be the franchise back we are all looking for. I saw him on "Inside Mini-Camp" on NFLN a few months ago. He definitely has the one cut and go down. I saw him make a couple of beautiful cuts during that show and he was gone gone. The kid seems to have good vision and some serious wheels. Cure his fumblitis and Lundy or Gado is on the bubble.

I always hounded Tiki Barber about his early career case of Fumblitis of course the past few years i've been eating crow with some of my friends about it. Hope the same happens to Taylor and he becomes that type of back.

Wolf
07-26-2007, 06:50 PM
Texans | Barry visits
Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:08:32 -0700

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans met with unrestricted free-agent OG Kevin Barry (Packers) earlier this week.

http://www.kffl.com/team/18/NFL

not signed but we are looking