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07-11-2007, 01:38 PM
OKLAHOMA CITY — The NCAA said Wednesday morning it plans to announce its decision about possible sanctions against the Oklahoma football program, more fallout from a case that came to light last year when two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, were kicked off the team.
And when do we get the decision about USC re one of its former players now in the NFL, his agent, and alleged benefits the agent dispersed to his family ? Seems to me that what's good enough for the Big 12 should also be for the PAC 10.
07-11-2007, 04:12 PM
Sucks when this happens, but it could have been a lot worse. Only 2 scholarships lost this year and two more the next. However, for the players who participated in the 2005 season, they are the ones hit worst, their wins stricken from the record books.
The Oklahoma football program must forfeit its wins from the 2005 season and will lose two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years.
The penalties, announced Wednesday by the NCAA, stem from a case involving two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, who were kicked off the team for being paid for work they had not performed at a Norman car dealership.
The Sooners went 8-4 and beat Oregon in the Holiday Bowl to end the 2005 season. Records from that season involving quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn must be vacated, the NCAA said, and coach Bob Stoops' career record will be amended to reflect the forfeitures, dropping it from 86-19 in eight seasons to 78-27.
Oklahoma also will have two years of probation added to an earlier penalty, extending the Sooners' probation to May 23, 2010.
Rest of article (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/ncaa/07/11/oklahoma.sanctions.ap/index.html)
07-11-2007, 04:36 PM
You might find this SI editorial (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_blogs/football/ncaa/2007/07/sooners-punished-what-about-usc.html)interesting if you think this should echo over to the PAC-10:
The bigger issue to me is one I addressed in a Mailbag a couple of months ago but which, for the most part, continues to go unspoken: Reggie Bush. Now that the NCAA has dropped its hammer on Oklahoma, how stupid is it going to look if, as expected, it lets fellow powerhouse USC off scot free for what most reasonable people believe to be far more egregious transgressions.
As previously reported, the NCAA’s largely powerless enforcement division has thus far failed to make any headway in its investigation of the alleged extra benefits Bush and his family received from two potential sports-marketers, as detailed in several reports by Yahoo! Sports. Not only has Bush refused to cooperate with investigators but he's essentially bought the silence of the people who originally brought the allegations through a legal settlement. Barring a dramatic development, USC is unlikely to endure any ramifications.
The longer the NCAA remains silent on the matter, the more the conspiracy theories grow among fans of other programs around the country incredulous that the Trojans -- who fans of other national-title contenders would no doubt love to see taken down a peg -- are dodging this bullet. Wednesday’s Oklahoma news won’t help matters.
In Oklahoma’s case, the investigation was made much easier by the fact the school itself uncovered the scheme and self-reported it.
Most people are going to read the line about OU "failing to monitor" its athletes’ employment situation and say, "Well, shouldn’t USC have been monitoring Bush’s dealings with agents?" According to Yahoo!, the agents were on the sideline and in the locker room throughout Bush’s final season.
07-11-2007, 05:27 PM
"Not only has Bush refused to cooperate with investigators but he's essentially bought the silence of the people who originally brought the allegations through a legal settlement. Barring a dramatic development, USC is unlikely to endure any ramifications."
Yea I knew about that T-H, but now that it looks as if OK is going to get stung it does seems hard to believe that USC will walk, but that's obviously what your article is speculating.
07-11-2007, 05:55 PM
Oklahoma's 2005 Holiday Bowl win over Oregon never existed, according to penalties handed down Wednesday by the NCAA.
The Sooners must vacate their eight victories from the 2005 season, including a Holiday Bowl win over Oregon, as a result of violations stemming from the improper payments received by three players, most notably former quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn.
Also included among the penalties handed down Wednesday:
• The Sooners received an additional two years of probation, which now extends through May 2010.
• The number of scholarships has been reduced by two from 85 to 83 for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 seasons.
• A reduction by one the number of coaches permitted to recruit off campus.
• A public reprimand and censure.
Bomar and Quinn were dismissed from the team prior to the start of fall workouts last August in a fallout that eventually disclosed they received approximately $17,000 for work not performed at the Norman, Okla., dealership.
Dunno what exactly was expected, but the word came down according to this Chron report. Seems pretty stiff to me ?
07-11-2007, 09:58 PM
Forfeit the season?
That means nothing.
They got off very light.
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