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Andre_Johnson80
11-02-2004, 10:08 AM
LEFTWICH DONE FOR THE YEAR?



A league source says Jacksonville quarterback Byron Leftwich could be done for the year after suffering an injury in Sunday's loss to the Texans.



The source didn't specify the injury, but another league insider tells us that Leftwich was limping on Monday.



The Tuesday edition of the Florida Times-Union reports that Leftwich suffered a left leg injury on Sunday shortly before halftime, and that he went back into the game on his own after missing only a couple of plays.



"I was scared in the beginning, but it was something I got over quickly,'' Leftwich said. "I'll be healthy by the next game."



The Jaguars are off this weekend. They next play the Lions, on November 14.



If the 5-3 Jags lose Leftwich, the starter will be David Garrard, a player whom some in the organization think has greater potential than Leftwich, since the second-year pro from Marshall has limited mobility. Garrard is scheduled to become a restricted free agent after the season.



In a prior edition of this here story, we said that Garrard will be an unrestricted free agent after the season. As Bart Hubbuch of the Florida Times-Union told us in a Tuesday morning e-mail, however, Garrard has one more year before he can walk. With that said, Hubbuch anticipates that the Jags will trade Garrard after the 2004 season.



But we don't see eye-to-eye on everything with Bart. He tells us that the story that Leftwich is hurt is "WAY off the mark." We'll stand by our report for now, but we'll keep digging for more info.

From www.profootballtalk.com

I hate to see a team lose a starter, even a div foe but this might help us out come dec 26th in Jacksonville.

JustBonee
11-02-2004, 10:54 AM
Isn't that website a bunch of Jacksonville homers? Maybe the teal coloring makes me suspicious, but anyway rumors can go either way.

texan279
11-02-2004, 11:02 AM
Everyone at the Jags MB thinks that article is a bunch of BS. They think if Byron was really done for the season, Del Rio and the public would have known by now.

Andre_Johnson80
11-02-2004, 11:25 AM
I was just posting the Art... I think ESPN would have said something by now but they haven't so I just posted this.. "Can't wait for December 26th" See ya in Jacksonville!!!! :BananaWav

texan279
11-02-2004, 01:04 PM
They are holding their breath now. There are reports that Byron is visiting some sort of ACL expert today. They are crossing their fingers and holding their breaths right now at the Jags MB. Some are thinking the news might be REALLY bad. Just found this.

LINK (http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/110204/jag_leftwich.shtml)

Leftwich might miss season with knee injury

Quarterback in Alabama to have leg examined

By BART HUBBUCH, The Times-Union


Jaguars quarterback Byron Leftwich might miss the rest of the season after injuring his left knee in last Sunday's 20-6 loss to the Houston Texans.
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Leftwich is in Birmingham, Ala., today to have his injured leg examined by sports orthopedist James Andrews, and the Jaguars said they expect to update Leftwich's condition today or Wednesday.

If Leftwich is unable to finish the season, backup David Garrard would take over. The Jaguars (5-3) have a bye this week before returning to play host to the Detroit Lions on Sunday, Nov. 14.

Leftwich was dispatched to see Andrews by his agent, Tom Condon, after developing pain late Monday afternoon.

Leftwich was hurt just before halftime on a high-low tackle by Texans linebacker Kailee Wong and defensive lineman Gary Walker, a former Jaguar. Leftwich missed two plays before putting himself back in the game -- without input from the coaching staff, according to coach Jack Del Rio -- and finished the contest.

Leftwich said immediately after the game that he would be fine, but experienced problems the next day.

Leftwich has a history of leg injuries dating to his college career at Marshall

geka
11-02-2004, 01:07 PM
Its looking true we knocked him out for the year, suxs to see it happen but its good for the Texans

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/110204/jag_leftwich.shtml

JustBonee
11-02-2004, 01:26 PM
:rolleyes: I see that he's not taking any chances getting treated by those wonderful Jacksonville Doctors.

texan279
11-02-2004, 01:31 PM
The doctor he is going to is an expert in ACL repair/sports medicine.

JustBonee
11-02-2004, 01:35 PM
Yeah .. I was just making a dig at the treatment of Boselli .. :yap

TEXANS84
11-02-2004, 01:59 PM
Hope he's ok...hate to see this happen to any team and their fans.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-02-2004, 02:01 PM
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7850867

texan279
11-02-2004, 02:05 PM
Jags MB is reporting it's official, he is out for the year according to their local radio.

kuno
11-02-2004, 02:06 PM
No his not done! LOL! The guy played 2 quarters with a broken knee? Nah... Jag homers trying to make him out as the Next Steve Mcnair. AND THEN THEY ACCUSE US OF ACTING TOO MUCH LAST SUNDAY!?

:rofl: :thumbup

Its not that. We have a lot of fans in Jacksonville who dont like Leftwich. They come up with this stuff all the time to make it seem like Garrard is going to play. Wishful thinking on their part and a direct result of their ignorance of football. Why they would not want Leftwich starting is beyond me.

If this is not what it is about, then I guess it is true. However I agree someone would have broken that story by now.

texan279
11-02-2004, 02:21 PM
Where are some of the Jags fans getting that on the play that Byron got injured G Funk took a cheap shot at Byron?

kuno
11-02-2004, 02:22 PM
Well, looks like the Leftwich thing may be true. I think we did lose him for the year. We will still play as hard as we can, but this may mean you guys gotta go out there and keep this division outta the hands of the Colts or Titans. We Jag's fans will still pull for our team, but we would rather see you ugys get it than the Dolts or Tacks. Good luck on Sunday!

Double Barrel
11-02-2004, 02:23 PM
Wow!...if true.

I find it interesting to note that we really do not wish any ill will towards opposing players...but during the game, we compare football to war and we make thunder when our defender gets a good blindside smack on the enemy QB, even taking him out of the game. Then we run home to watch ESPN, and they have the "Jacked Up!" segment showing extremely violent hits from the weekend's games.

It reminds me of the George Carlin bit (about Football vs. Baseball):

"In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you're capable of taking the life of a fellow human being."

We put the fan in fanatic! ;)

texan279
11-02-2004, 02:25 PM
Anyone have a pic of the hit on Byron?

ledzeppelin229
11-02-2004, 02:26 PM
We know the feeling, and it isn't a good one. Too bad he'll out for the Dec 26th game, I like the Carr-Leftwich rivalry thats developing.

Good luck the rest of the season, hopefully Garrard can keep things together (but still finish behind the Texans)

TexansTrueFan
11-02-2004, 02:27 PM
its all bull,,,hes not out for the season ! Wishful thinking on some fans part is all it is !

ThaShark316
11-02-2004, 02:28 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1914640

Tough break for the Jags,he'll be missed by the Jags....but knowing Byron,he'll be back in week 11....hate to see good players get hurt.

texan279
11-02-2004, 02:29 PM
They say it's a torn PCL and could be out 4-6 weeks or maybe the rest of the season.

TEXANS84
11-02-2004, 02:34 PM
Someone check KFFL.com for the update....work restrictions here.

Htown34s
11-02-2004, 02:40 PM
Anyone have a pic of the hit on Byron?

He didn't get hit that hard actually. Walker hit him low and Babin (I think) hit him high and made him fall on his leg funny.

Corrosion
11-02-2004, 02:45 PM
Thats truely bad news for the Jag's . I remember the hit that sent him to the sidelined , he got hit high from the left side and low from the front . Nothing "Dirty" just the pocket collapsed on both sides at once . Didnt look like he twisted anything on the way down but he was in obvious pain after the play .
On the up-side the Jag's Offense didnt look any different with Garrard in than Leftwich . He was 2/2 in completions i believe . The announcers didnt even notice when Leftwich came back in (neither did I) . Looks like the Jag's offense will be in capable hands .

Htown34s
11-02-2004, 02:48 PM
All the Jag fans out there shouldn't be too depressed. David Garrard looked like a stud out there for 2 snaps.

Of course we were probably calling defensive sets for running plays since you usually get a backup QB time to get used to playing before making him throw, but he looks like a damn fine backup to me.

Ihategeeks
11-02-2004, 02:56 PM
When I asked Houston to break Gary Coleman

I ment the REAL Gary Coleman

Yeessh Crazy Texans

ThaShark316
11-02-2004, 03:00 PM
Garrard is a good QB...I saw him play @ ECU (u get alot of those games with UH being in the CUSA). I remember the Houston Bowl game he had vs. Texas Tech...he was amazing in that game...he's like a inexperienced version of Steve McNair.

JaxonVillain
11-02-2004, 03:03 PM
I think Garrard will do fine in Leftwich's absence. The Jaguars will most likely trade him in the offseason, so he could up his value while he is in. Unfortunately, if he does succeed, it will only give more ammo to the anti-Leftwich "fans" down here.

By the way, the Texans played a great game this past weekend. Good luck the rest of the way. Until we meet again!

shinerbock_texas
11-02-2004, 03:33 PM
Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Byron Leftwich will miss four to six weeks with a torn lateral collateral ligament in his left knee, ESPN's Chris Mortensen is reporting.

Leftwich, who was injured in Sunday's 20-6 loss to Houston, went to Birmingham, Ala., on Tuesday to seek the opinion of sports orthopedist James Andrews after preliminary examinations on Monday showed possible ligament damage.

The Jaguars said they expected to make an official announcement on Leftwich's condition Tuesday or Wednesday.

lol: lol: lol:

texansfan88
11-02-2004, 04:13 PM
http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7850867

Fiddy
11-02-2004, 04:19 PM
Big development in the AFC South. Garrad had a great camp last year but had that stomach virus this year. It will be intresting what happens. The Colts game in two weeks just got magnified in importance...

ledzeppelin229
11-02-2004, 05:05 PM
Heard something saying its been re-evaluated as a sprain and he'll only miss a week? Not really a credible source, but that's what I read by a Jags poster on the kffl board.

Andre_Johnson80
11-02-2004, 05:10 PM
He is out 4-6 weeks, Man he won't be playing on dec 26th at alltel stadiem

edo783
11-02-2004, 05:30 PM
Garrard isn't chopped liver. He can play. May not be that much of an offensive change.

Lucky
11-02-2004, 05:45 PM
Garrard is much more mobile than Leftwich. He brings another element into the Jag offense. Jacksonville wins/loses on defense usually. Had Stroud or Henderson gone down, it would have had more of an impact. With 5 home games left, the Jags are still in the playoff hunt (along with 9 other AFC teams).

Double Barrel
11-02-2004, 06:06 PM
All I want is W's on the scoreboard. I could care less if our opponent puts a girl scout troop on the field. Winning is all that matters at the end of the day. ;)

Funny thing is everyone is tip-toeing around the subject, but the sports update on 610 AM broke the story in with "Good news for the Texans!!..."

Not that I'm at all happy that one of our division opponents is quite a bit weaker for the next 4-6 weeks.... :whistle:

Henderson98
11-02-2004, 06:46 PM
Brett Farve had the same injury and only sat out a bye week and the next week after that.. just depends... I wouldn't count him out for our Dec. meeting just yet..

It's something you want to be careful with, but I don't think it will be that long," Del Rio said. "In fact Byron said he feels he can be ready after the bye. However, we won't rush him if he's not ready."

kuno
11-02-2004, 08:28 PM
Big development in the AFC South. Garrad had a great camp last year but had that stomach virus this year. It will be intresting what happens. The Colts game in two weeks just got magnified in importance...

Much worse than a stomach virus. Was Chrones Disease. He seems to be doing well now tho.

texansfan88
11-02-2004, 08:45 PM
honestly, if he was as good as some of you are making him seem, he would be starting in the NFL.

Bob_A
11-02-2004, 09:24 PM
As fired up as I get about whippin' up on the Jags, I really do hate to see this happen to Leftwich. :goodbad: He's a gutty guy, looked like he was really hurting after he came back in on Sunday. I remember the highlights of him playing at Marshall on his gimpy ankle(?) when his linemen were actually carrying him downfield after every play. Quite an image.

Henderson98
11-02-2004, 09:55 PM
honestly, if he was as good as some of you are making him seem, he would be starting in the NFL.

If he was on a few other teams he would be starting... Cards, Bears, Raiders come to mind :twocents: The titans were quite impressed when he played against them a couple years ago, when he went in for Mark...

Henderson98
11-02-2004, 09:56 PM
As fired up as I get about whippin' up on the Jags, I really do hate to see this happen to Leftwich. :goodbad: He's a gutty guy, looked like he was really hurting after he came back in on Sunday. I remember the highlights of him playing at Marshall on his gimpy ankle(?) when his linemen were actually carrying him downfield after every play. Quite an image.

It was a leg fracture... he left the game went to have x-rays and then came back on the field after he got back to the stadium..

TheTim5125
11-02-2004, 10:50 PM
Jaguars | Leftwich Will Not Need Surgery - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:27:05 -0800

Jay Glazer, of Fox Sports, reports on Foxsports.com, reports Jacksonville Jaguars QB Byron Leftwich (knee) met with Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala., early Tuesday, Nov. 2, to get a better look at the injured knee. Initial thoughts were that Leftwich will not need surgery and the team remains hopeful that this diagnosis will hold up. Jaguars head coach Jack Del Rio said that he will list Leftwich as either questionable or doubtful for now, but does not have to make a decision on his official status for more than a week, due to the Bye week. Del Rio added that Leftwich played with the injury during Week 8 and said to the coach that he will be able to start in Week 10. "It's something you want to be careful with, but I don't think it will be that long," Del Rio said of the four-to-six week prognosis. "In fact Byron said he feels he can be ready after the bye. However, we won't rush him if he's not ready."

ESPN news reports he could be out 4-6 weeks so IDK believe what you want and we'll see... Thought you guys would wanna know.

TexansTrueFan
11-02-2004, 11:40 PM
Knee-d to know basis
This is no treat for the Jaguars -- only a trick. Quarterback Byron Leftwich is out indefinitely after spraining his lateral collateral ligament in his left knee in Jacksonville's 20-6 loss against the Texans in Houston. Leftwich finished the game but was examined by an orthopedist this week. Jacksonville's backup, David Garrard, who has thrown just 60 passes in his three-year NFL career, will take over as the starter. Leftwich will not undergo surgery at this time, but the timetable for his return is not set yet either.


I GUESS THAT IS GONNA HURT THE JAGS A LIL BIT FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON "i never wish anyone to be hurt but this is really good for us in trying to take the top of the division" HOPEFULLY WE CAN JUST KEEP WINNING ON A CONSISTENT ENOUGH BASIS TO KEEP THE RACE CLOSE TO WHERE IT GOES DOWN TO DECEMBER THE EASIEST LOOKING PART OF OUR SCHEDULE !!!!

Txnpride
11-02-2004, 11:52 PM
Thats really tough for them,I also never want to see someones starting QB go down....well except for Joe Montana way back in the Luv Ya Blue days when he played aganist the Oilers in a playoff game at the astrodome....I would have given anything for someone to take him out that day....I knew he would come back and get a win....and he did.

shinerbock_girl
11-03-2004, 06:58 AM
Put it this way, even with one week off, if he continues to play with an unhealed fracture, he WILL irritate it again....You need more then a week to heal something like that....So by the time he plays us in december, he won't be in very good shape, and i don't expect him to even be playing at all by then if he continues this....Oh yes he may be tough and be able to play a few games with his leg now, but its a matter of time before he gets hit again....

WWJD
11-03-2004, 09:44 AM
I'm sorry he is hurt. I would think they'd do the smart thing and make sure he's well before he plays again.

edo783
11-03-2004, 10:22 AM
Historically the Jags haven't shown they understand medical things very well. Probably be dumb enough to have Lefty go out and play and wind up shortning his carreer.

Henderson98
11-03-2004, 11:02 AM
Put it this way, even with one week off, if he continues to play with an unhealed fracture, he WILL irritate it again....You need more then a week to heal something like that....So by the time he plays us in december, he won't be in very good shape, and i don't expect him to even be playing at all by then if he continues this....Oh yes he may be tough and be able to play a few games with his leg now, but its a matter of time before he gets hit again....

The fracture was in college not in the game from Sunday... what happen Sunday was a knee strain... not a tear or anything that will require surgery...

WWJD
11-03-2004, 11:04 AM
I'm sure they'll take extra care to make sure he's fine when he returns. The doctor that looked at him is one of the top doctors in the whole country.

Double Barrel
11-03-2004, 11:43 AM
Thats really tough for them,I also never want to see someones starting QB go down....well except for Joe Montana way back in the Luv Ya Blue days when he played aganist the Oilers in a playoff game at the astrodome....I would have given anything for someone to take him out that day....I knew he would come back and get a win....and he did.

Actually, that was during the "House of Pain" era (not the "Luv Ya Blue").

Montana was playing for the Chiefs, and it was during the Buddy Ryan 46 defense season (when he punched Kevin Gilbride during the last game against the Jets)...this season was the one after the 35-3 debacle (Bills comeback), where the Oilers started the season 1-4, and then went on an 11 game winning streak with an anemic offense but an awesome defense.

Unfortunately, Joe Cool came in and sliced-and-diced that defense up to win the playoff game. It was the nail in the coffin for that Oiler team's era, and the rest, as they say, is history.

[/threadjack] :cool:

Andre_Johnson80
11-03-2004, 12:51 PM
Now Byron might not even sit out, he says he might play through the pain. Might turn out to be a bad move. He could get really injured

cuppacoffee
11-04-2004, 10:25 AM
But even Del Rio's latest report was contradicted Wednesday by Leftwich, who was walking on crutches in the locker room with his left leg in a brace. Leftwich indicated there might be damage to more than one ligament.


Todays News From J-Ville (http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/110404/jag_17099990.shtml)

CAC :coffee:

Henderson98
11-04-2004, 09:30 PM
Here is a nice piece by ESPN on that subject.

http://espn.go.com/gen/s/2002/0912/1431095.html

Thanks to Dave at houstonprofootball.com for digging it up.

Well is seeing an outside Dr. from AL that is suppose to be tops in the field... Maybe to avoid some of the mistakes of the past...

Andre_Johnson80
11-05-2004, 11:04 AM
I can't wait for the game on dec 26th

Henderson98
11-08-2004, 07:16 PM
http://www.jaguars.com/story/4007.asp
“Good news reported from the doc. (Leftwich) will not need any type of surgery. He's healing as expected. His approach this week will be to remain in a brace and on crutches until Friday. We will rule him ‘out' for this weekend,” Del Rio told reporters.

“I'm not going to look at the target date. When I'm able to function pain-free, I'll be out there. It's too early to know right now,” Leftwich told reporters. “It's not great news because I'm sure I won't play this week.”
Del Rio, however, made a point of saying he would not risk Leftwich's future for the sake of rushing him back to action. “We're going to do the right thing, the smart thing. We will determine, with his input. We will be sound with our decision-making,” Del Rio said.

Henderson98
11-08-2004, 07:23 PM
Sorry Vinny but I wouldn't even wrap fish in the Times Union(www.jacksonville.com) it might make the fish smell bad... :twocents:

Henderson98
11-08-2004, 07:37 PM
Even when the Jags had the best record in the NFL in 1999 they had a hard time saying anything nice about them but then again I think Pete Prisco was still there at the time, if that says anything about the quality of writer they hire,