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STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-29-2004, 05:39 PM
Not sure if anyone has posted this, but im pretty sure I just saw "Marcus Coleman signs 3 year extension with the Texans" going across ESPN's news ticker.

jacquescas
10-29-2004, 05:41 PM
ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports Houston Texans FS Marcus Coleman has signed a three-year contract extension. It is worth $9.3 million, which includes a $5 million signing bonus.

Fiddy
10-29-2004, 05:43 PM
Just heard it on SportsRadio 610...Great news...

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-29-2004, 05:43 PM
ok good. so i wasn't seeing things. lol

Porky
10-29-2004, 05:45 PM
Great news! Marcus isn't an elite player, but I think he is above average as a FS, certainly in terms of range and ball skills, and he seems to be getting better. Excellent news indeed! :thumbup

texasguy346
10-29-2004, 05:52 PM
It's great to have him locked up a few more years. Glad they got it out of the way so early in the season.

281
10-29-2004, 06:00 PM
"Wow... Okay, sounds pretty neat."

-Konane

Double Barrel
10-29-2004, 06:05 PM
Fantastic! I like Marcus Coleman, and I think he'll get better than he has been at safety. Good to hear that he'll be an integral part of the team for years to come.

beerlover
10-29-2004, 06:08 PM
positive news, congratulations to all parties involved :thumbup just one question, the 5 million bonus would that apply to this years salary cap? I'm thinking this was close to about the amount of cap room still left for this year, thus setting up for another aggressive aquisition off sesaon. The signing also suggests the Texans have a very positive working enviornment one that players enjoy being a partner with.

SESupergenius
10-29-2004, 06:15 PM
That puts him in line with some of these guys:

Williams, Aeneas
Darius,Donovin
Minter, Mike
Sharper, Darren

Is he as good as these guys?

TEXANS84
10-29-2004, 06:21 PM
Great news....people forget how valuable Marcus is to our team.
Good job Charley!!!!!!!!!!!

dalemurphy
10-29-2004, 06:23 PM
That puts him in line with some of these guys:

Williams, Aeneas
Darius,Donovin
Minter, Mike
Sharper, Darren

Is he as good as these guys?

He's better than Darius and Aeneas Williams and probably on par with Mike Minter. I think Darren Sharper is the best of that group... Williams was very good about 4 years ago but he's aged and slowed significantly.

dalemurphy
10-29-2004, 06:26 PM
positive news, congratulations to all parties involved :thumbup just one question, the 5 million bonus would that apply to this years salary cap? I'm thinking this was close to about the amount of cap room still left for this year, thus setting up for another aggressive aquisition off sesaon. The signing also suggests the Texans have a very positive working enviornment one that players enjoy being a partner with.

If this deal is front-loaded to count significantly against this year's cap #, then it is a GREAT deal. Otherwise, I still like it.

MIGHTYTEX
10-29-2004, 06:32 PM
Great to see, now we need to sign Payne

Grid
10-29-2004, 07:11 PM
so aj... did he just break the bank on our salary cap?

texasguy346
10-30-2004, 12:16 AM
That puts him in line with some of these guys:

Williams, Aeneas
Darius,Donovin
Minter, Mike
Sharper, Darren

Is he as good as these guys?

I'd say he's as good as those guys. He definately deserves to be in that group. He has some versatility, and he's done pretty well thus far at safety.

jacquescas
10-30-2004, 05:23 AM
I think its a good deal. Maybe a little high, but alot of Corners have prolonged their careers switching to Saftey and Coleman will help add experience to that Group, especially with rookies Earl and Robinson starting. I like for 1 saftey to be a vetran former corner cause they seem to have soo much more ability, then 1 saftey who is just a hard hitter.

rittenhouserobz
10-30-2004, 05:31 AM
I like the signing. Let us just hope that the DUI stuff is long gone.

aj.
10-30-2004, 08:22 AM
so aj... did he just break the bank on our salary cap?Probably not. We'll have to wait and see what the annual base salaries look like and whether they just did a bolt-on to his existing contract (started everything in '05) or whether they also restructured his 2004 base as part of the deal like they did with Aaron Glenn's extension. If they included part of his 2004 base into that signing bonus, it could actually lower his cap number for this year. Either way, it looks like a very affordable deal that won't break the bank. I wonder if Payne is next...

Grid
10-30-2004, 08:37 AM
Cool. thanks aj

Mistril48
10-30-2004, 11:49 AM
Either way, it looks like a very affordable deal that won't break the bank...As I recall, I thought Coleman was about 4.3 per year salary cap now, so the 3 per year salary cap (9 mill over 3 years) moving forward would be nice.

Perhaps someone can refresh my memory. As I recall, the Texans quckly signed Walker and Washington right before free agency started and then quckly signed Todd Wade and Robaire Smith. I also recall that they wanted CB Antoine Winfield to visit, but after a reported signing with the Jets, he quickly signed with the Vikings.

My question is what happened to the money 'earmarked' for Winfield?

Have I messed up the timing and the money went to Wade, or Smith?

aj.
10-30-2004, 01:24 PM
I thought Coelman's cap number this year was $4.3 until I read the little blurb this morning about him getting a $1.2 roster bonus in March. That hadn't been publicized previously. Based on that, his number this year could actually be $5.5.

Walker was signed on Mar 1
Wade was signed on Mar 2
Smith was signed on Mar 2
That's 30 million in signing bonuses alone right there.

Winfield was signed by the Vikes on Mar 4

If the Texans signed Winfield they probably wouldn't have drafted Robinson.

I think the money 'earmarked' for Winfield was used on WWS and used to re-sign all the EFAs and RFAs.

Rosusu
10-30-2004, 01:38 PM
I think this is great news! He is one of my favorite texans, and now we get to watch him for another 3 years. Hopefully he wont get shafted at the pro bowl this year. He is a valuable part of our defense, and a great leader.

aj.
10-30-2004, 01:40 PM
Hopefully he wont get shafted at the pro bowl this year. Marcus is a steady player but he's not having a Pro Bowl year.

Rosusu
10-30-2004, 01:54 PM
I know he isnt having a pro bowl year yet. But he did have a great year last year that i think was worty of the pro bowl. If he gets 7 ints again I think he should be there.

Mistril48
10-30-2004, 02:10 PM
AJ - Thanks for the effort!... Coleman's cap number ... could actually be $5.5.9 mill over 3 years is quite a reduction.


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Walker was signed on Mar 1
Wade was signed on Mar 2
Smith was signed on Mar 2

Winfield was signed by the Vikes on Mar 4

I think the money 'earmarked' for Winfield was used on WWS and used to re-sign all the EFAs and RFAs.As I recall, it was reported that the Texans were aggressively trying to get Winfield to visit. That being the case, I would think that this means they were prepared to pay Winfield in addition to:

a) WWS
b) a #10 draft pick

I wonder if they think they have more cap wiggle room than we can identify?

If the Texans signed Winfield they probably wouldn't have drafted Robinson.Agreed. Perhaps they would have pulled the trigger on a trade to move up to get Taylor (and then not resigned Coleman), or another top 7 pick, or perhaps a DL prospect.

Just curious.

aj.
10-31-2004, 05:18 AM
As I recall, it was reported that the Texans were aggressively trying to get Winfield to visit It was reported in the Chronicle in late Feb that Aaron Glenn was trying to get him to come down here so you know the Texans wanted him, but he chose not to visit. I'm glad it worked out the way it did. Dunta is a fine CB.

From what Casserly has said, Sean Taylor and Kellen Winslow were the two guys they would have moved up to get if the right situation presented itself. Again, I'm kind of glad it worked out the way it did.

ArlingtonTexan
10-31-2004, 08:52 AM
The move up cost were prohibative, though. remember the Browns paid a 2nd round choice to flip positions. For the texans to move the 5th or 6th overall, would have cost something crazy like this year's entire 1st day plus 1 high pick next year. Prices for moving in the draft were high this year.

If the texan got winfield it would have been interesting to see the direction of the draft. As of now, the pick pick robinson and move of Colemen seems to have worked.

Tulip
10-31-2004, 08:56 AM
Great news!