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Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 10:09 AM
Raiders to take Russell first, according to sources

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2852155

It appears the Oakland Raiders have made their choice, and it's JaMarcus Russell. According to two sources, one with the Raiders and one close to Russell, the team called Russell Friday to inform him he would be the No. 1 pick in the 2007 NFL Draft.

The team called Russell on Friday to inform him that he is their player, the sources said. Oakland quietly flew offensive coordinator Greg Knapp to New York on Thursday to meet with Russell and reassure him of his status as the team's preference over Georgia Tech receiver Calvin Johnson and Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 10:12 AM
Gosselin says the same:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/football/nfl/draft/stories/042807dnspomockdraft.2ad4086.html

1. OAKLAND RAIDERS

Selection: JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
Needs: Quarterback, blockers, tacklers

Al Davis has never been a fan of dink-and-dunk football. He wants passers and receivers who can stretch the field. No one stretches it like Russell, who can throw the football 85 yards. The Raiders have started six different QBs in the last four seasons. This position needs to be stabilized.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 10:20 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/news/story?id=2851912

snippet:
The San Francisco 49ers, one of the more aggressive teams this offseason in terms of acquisitions, enter this weekend's draft with a league-high eight picks in the first four rounds: one first-round selection, a second, two thirds and four fourths.

On the eve of the draft, the Niners already were poised to maximize the value of one of those fourth-round picks.

According to league sources, San Francisco and division rival Seattle are working toward a trade that would send Seahawks wide receiver Darrell Jackson to the Niners in exchange for one of their fourth-rounders, believed to be the Niners' third selection in the round, No. 124 overall. The New Orleans Saints and Tennessee Titans, whose new general manager Mike Reinfeldt came over from Seattle, are also believed to be talking with Seattle about Jackson.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 10:35 AM
Mike Mayock is saying that there are serious concerns about Peterson's injury based on his conversations this morning.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 10:36 AM
Patriots offered the Raiders a 2nd day pick for Randy Moss per Adam Schefter.

The Browns are trying to trade up to #1.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 10:42 AM
Mike Mayock is saying that there are serious concerns about Peterson's injury based on his conversations this morning.

Goose said yesterday that the injury should not affect Peterson's draft status. His point was that in today's NFL all you really wanted was a player to make it through the rookie contract. HE also said the Peterson is a special talent. All per the local ESPN affliate, Randy Galloway's show.

stingray
04-28-2007, 10:47 AM
I do not want Leon Hall. Most mock drafts have us taking Hall. I think he is overated. I hope we pick either Okoye, Levi Brown or jamal Anderson. One of those will fall to us. But not Leon Hall.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 10:54 AM
Schefter reporting the Raiders are asking for 1st, 2nd, 3rd and a 1st next year for this year's #1.

Silver Oak
04-28-2007, 10:58 AM
I see a tough rookie season looming for Russell if he does end up in Oakland.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 11:01 AM
I see a tough rookie season looming for Russell if he does end up in Oakland.

I actually see a tough career. He does nothing for me.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 11:09 AM
Trent Green and the Dolphins are close to getting something done - NFL Network.

Briggs trade on hold per Chicago Sun Times.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 11:10 AM
Lions will take Calvin Johnson. Browns will take Joe Thomas. Per Schefter.

HoustonFrog
04-28-2007, 11:12 AM
I'm good to go. Of course I'm painting and caulking while watching.

Its Russell, followed by Calvin, whom TB will move up to get, followed by Quinn/Peterson..I'm torn.

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 11:12 AM
ESPN still has us at 10, what's up with the trade?

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 11:14 AM
ESPN still has us at 10, what's up with the trade?

What trade?

Buffi2
04-28-2007, 11:15 AM
What trade?

With the Broncos, perhaps?

V Man
04-28-2007, 11:16 AM
ESPN still has us at 10, what's up with the trade?

What trade?

Think he is thinking about the Denver Rumor.

Trap_Star
04-28-2007, 11:23 AM
Im going all out and say that if we stay at 10, we're taking D.Revis....unless AP or Landry fall to us....

Grams
04-28-2007, 11:28 AM
ESPN"S Ed Werder reports that Lane Kiffin had denied the report from Smith that the Raiders have told Russell he will be their pick. Supposedly Raiders are talking to the Browns about a trade so the Browns can get Russell.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 11:29 AM
The Ryan Kalil feature with Will Ferrell on NFLN was funny, "I want that Twinkie so bad."

Grams
04-28-2007, 11:31 AM
Also just read that the Bucs and Lions are close to a deal for the No 2 pick.

Same link as above

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 11:34 AM
The Ryan Kalil feature with Will Ferrell on NFLN was funny, "I want that Twinkie so bad."
aww..aaaawwwww...noooooooooooo





awwwwwwwwwwwww





tuned into the NFLN as of now.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 11:40 AM
The NFLN has had two commercials featuring Bush and Young taking shots at the Texans by not being picked first.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 11:43 AM
I sent a question to Jamie Dukes of the NFL Network regarding Levi Brown. We'll see if he reads it on his segment.

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 11:45 AM
Mario Williams wasn't booed as loudly as Quinn...wow

Buffi2
04-28-2007, 11:49 AM
I don't understand this booing thing and those kids haven't even been drafted yet - what's to boo?

TexanSam
04-28-2007, 11:52 AM
What time is the 1st pick made? Does the Raiders time officially start at 11?

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 11:52 AM
What time is the 1st pick made? Does the Raiders time officially start at 11?

11 CST is my understanding.

Marcus
04-28-2007, 11:53 AM
I don't understand this booing thing and those kids haven't even been drafted yet - what's to boo?

It's New York City. Anything else need to be said?

V Man
04-28-2007, 11:55 AM
It's New York City. Anything else need to be said?

That and he is from Norte Dame, half the people love them and the other hate them.

TexanSam
04-28-2007, 11:56 AM
There were 4,000 people on the boards on at this exact time last year. This year, there's 42.

PapaL
04-28-2007, 11:57 AM
So many boards to choose from now, lol.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 11:57 AM
10:30 a.m.: Ed Werder just checked in from the omelet station in Oakland. He's reporting via cellphone that the Raiders have been approached with two "serious offers." They've been talking to the Browns about trading down for multiple picks, but the Browns balked when Oakland asked for defensive end Kameron Wimbley. The teams have discussed several players, including Browns wide receiver Braylon Edwards. Ed also informed this yet-to-be-named blog that the Raiders are aggressively trying to trade Randy Moss, but that folks from Moss' camp say it's probably not going to happen. Much, much more to come.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/columns/story?id=2852167

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 11:58 AM
Schefter reporting that the Packers are still involved with Randy Moss. The Jets are hungry to move up in the draft for a CB.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 11:59 AM
That and he is from Norte Dame, half the people love them and the other hate them.

True but NY people who attend the draft are a bunch of disgusting idiots with no class.

TexanSam
04-28-2007, 11:59 AM
Maybe the Raiders will shock everyone and draft someone like Alan Branch first. As dumb as Al Davis is, I wouldn't be completely shocked.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 12:01 PM
NFL Network is stepping up its production value.

V Man
04-28-2007, 12:02 PM
True but NY people who attend the draft are a bunch of disgusting idiots with no class.

Oh yeah that is always a given about NY fans.

V Man
04-28-2007, 12:03 PM
Do we know of any Texans fans at the Draft?

Wolf
04-28-2007, 12:03 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/features/chuck_barry

there is videos also (in case some missed it)

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 12:04 PM
Bradster checking in...

Have I missed any picks?

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 12:05 PM
Bradster checking in...

Have I missed any picks?

Nope Raiders about to go on the clock.

Mayock is stating that the Jets and Bills make sense from a trade standpoint.

V Man
04-28-2007, 12:05 PM
Bradster checking in...

Have I missed any picks?

Nope, Raiders aren't even officially on the clock yet.

Wolf
04-28-2007, 12:06 PM
So many boards to choose from now, lol.


there is ..but I may just check in on the official site. I just don't like the lag that sometimes the screen refreshes and sometimes not, I can't imagine what it will be like when 400+ go on there (guests and members)
when our pick is getting close

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 12:07 PM
Falcons and the Lions are in discussions reports Schefter.

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 12:07 PM
The UK's here with you! I've got a live draft page open too, we can race each other for scoops!

Thought the first 'clock' started 1700 my time, 1200 yours???

V Man
04-28-2007, 12:07 PM
there is ..but I may just check in on the official site. I just don't like the lag that sometimes the screen refreshes and sometimes not, I can't imagine what it will be like when 400+ go on there (guests and members)
when our pick is getting close

I see 4 minute lag times.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 12:09 PM
Noon: Just talked to a source with the Raiders who confirmed that JaMarcus Russell will indeed be the No. 1 overall pick. And he doesn't think a trade will take place.

I also just got a call from former Baylor great Trey Wingo, who thinks the Raiders could be making a colossal mistake. Wingo rarely shares these hardcore opinions on ESPN's Wingo Live, but he'll do it on the blog.

Look for Wingo and his crew to show up this afternoon when things start to die down a little bit. The man continues to carry this network.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/columns/story?id=2852167

V Man
04-28-2007, 12:10 PM
Someone should keep a tally of how many shots are taken at the Texans for last years draft. (so far I have seen at least 3 commercials).

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:10 PM
New Zealand checking in.

Can someone suggest a more foreign fan friendly time for this thing. It is like 4am in the morning here already.... does that make me a little draft obsessed??

Any tips for the best draft tracker or a live radio feed??

Wolf
04-28-2007, 12:10 PM
The NFLN has had two commercials featuring Bush and Young taking shots at the Texans by not being picked first.

figures.. so I take it we can expect Demeco making fun of 31 other teams for passing on him?

:splits:

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 12:11 PM
there is ..but I may just check in on the official site. I just don't like the lag that sometimes the screen refreshes and sometimes not, I can't imagine what it will be like when 400+ go on there (guests and members)
when our pick is getting close

137 people on the offical board. I just checked.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 12:11 PM
New Zealand checking in.

Can someone suggest a more foreign fan friendly time for this thing. It is like 4am in the morning here already.... does that make me a little draft obsessed??

Any tips for the best draft tracker or a live radio feed??

http://www.nfl.com/draft

There are some options there. Love the dedication.

PapaL
04-28-2007, 12:12 PM
there is ..but I may just check in on the official site. I just don't like the lag that sometimes the screen refreshes and sometimes not, I can't imagine what it will be like when 400+ go on there (guests and members)
when our pick is getting close

I just posted something over there for first time in a long time (with a link to this board, lol).

hadaad
04-28-2007, 12:12 PM
figures.. so I take it we can expect Demeco making fun of 31 other teams for passing on him?

:splits:

To be fair, he could make fun of Houston too.
We passed on him, too, even if we were lucky enough to get him in the second.

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 12:12 PM
New Zealand checking in.

Can someone suggest a more foreign fan friendly time for this thing. It is like 4am in the morning here already.... does that make me a little draft obsessed??

Any tips for the best draft tracker or a live radio feed??

There's a live tracker at NFL.com, mate!

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:14 PM
:user: Technical question. Does this page auto refresh or will I have to sit here hitting F5.
Sub-question: When I reset it takes me to the Front screen of the message board it doesn't just refresh this thread, anyone else have this issue??

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 12:15 PM
Randy Moss will not restructure his contract with the Raiders per Schefter.

V Man
04-28-2007, 12:16 PM
:user: Technical question. Does this page auto refresh or will I have to sit here hitting F5.
Sub-question: When I reset it takes me to the Front screen of the message board it doesn't just refresh this thread, anyone else have this issue??

Same thing here, was wondering the same thing.

HoustonFrog
04-28-2007, 12:17 PM
Just showed Russell throw 64 yards from his knees...that's sick.

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:17 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft

There are some options there. Love the dedication.

Hey what can I say its what a fan would do and a closet draft geek.

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 12:18 PM
Who'd you reckon the Raiders will take?

My money's on Russell - I reckon they're looking at a Big Arm+Moss combo=wins

Marcus
04-28-2007, 12:19 PM
Just showed Russell throw 64 yards from his knees...that's sick.

I'm so impressed. NOT!

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:20 PM
Just showed Russell throw 64 yards from his knees...that's sick.

That is totally irrelevant thats what that is, I smell a big fat bust.

Then again I was a Carr fan till the bitter end so don't trust my QB judgement.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 12:20 PM
12:17 p.m.: I expect the Raiders to take the full 15 minutes before choosing JaMarcus Russell. If Cleveland would give up Kam Wimbley, they could have Russell right now. ESPN using Suzy on the floor in the early going.

Russell has a poker face right now. I'd go ask him a really in-depth question like, "What's going through your mind right now?" but I'm trapped between two of top editors at ESPN.com and I don't want crawl over them.

Mario Williams, who is on my floor at the W, is being interviewed right now. The NFL Network guy conducting the interview is sort of a poor man's Steve Levy. No questions yet about Williams' recent joyride.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/columns/story?id=2852167

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 12:20 PM
Russell goes #1, per the new commish!

It's odd hearing a new voice announce the picks.

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 12:20 PM
..and there you have it. JaMarcus Russel to OAK

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:23 PM
Who'd you reckon the Raiders will take?

My money's on Russell - I reckon they're looking at a Big Arm+Moss combo=wins

If I was the raiders I would be trading out of that spot even if it was for 80 cents in the dollar.

If I was staying there I would be tempted to just take Joe Thomas, in my mind he is pretty close to a sure thing and he will lock up a vital position for 10 years, and you need your big uglies before you go for your rock starts.

I think I just made an argument for Levi Brown at 10....

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 12:23 PM
My so called 'live tracker' hasn't F$%ing changed yet!

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 12:24 PM
12:17 p.m.: I expect the Raiders to take the full 15 minutes before choosing JaMarcus Russell. If Cleveland would give up Kam Wimbley, they could have Russell right now. ESPN using Suzy on the floor in the early going.

Russell has a poker face right now. I'd go ask him a really in-depth question like, "What's going through your mind right now?" but I'm trapped between two of top editors at ESPN.com and I don't want crawl over them.

Mario Williams, who is on my floor at the W, is being interviewed right now. The NFL Network guy conducting the interview is sort of a poor man's Steve Levy. No questions yet about Williams' recent joyride.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/columns/story?id=2852167

No NFLN for me thank you time warner .................. :bat:

V Man
04-28-2007, 12:24 PM
I like Kaiser said thought the Raiders would have taken the whole time, but they didn't. That shocked me a bit. Thought they would be trying to make a deal til the last minute.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 12:24 PM
My so called 'live tracker' hasn't F$%ing changed yet!

Try this one:
http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draftCast/index

even has a time-limit clock.

76Texan
04-28-2007, 12:25 PM
he looks a little like jordan

The Dream
04-28-2007, 12:25 PM
I'm at work so I can't watch espn....I got the 610 radio stream going though.....I definitely think Russell and Johnson are going 1 and 2 (in that order)

hadaad
04-28-2007, 12:25 PM
If I was staying there I would be tempted to just take Joe Thomas, in my mind he is pretty close to a sure thing and he will lock up a vital position for 10 years, and you need your big uglies before you go for your rock starts.

Isn't that what everyone said about Robert Gallery?

HoustonFrog
04-28-2007, 12:26 PM
I'm so impressed. NOT!


That is totally irrelevant thats what that is, I smell a big fat bust.

Then again I was a Carr fan till the bitter end so don't trust my QB judgement.


I didn't say the guy would be good. I just said he could throw 64 yards from his knees. Step back people..lol. Just a fun thing to see.

MojoX
04-28-2007, 12:26 PM
No NFLN for me thank you time warner .................. :bat:

Here ya go:
http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/events/live/nfldraft.rm&proto=rtsp&rpcontexturl=http://www.nfl.com/fieldpass/includes/promo&rpcontextwidth=417&rpcontextheight=250

If that doesn't work just go here ( http://www.nfl.com/draft ) and choose the live feed.

HoustonFrog
04-28-2007, 12:27 PM
This commissioner seems alot cooler...tougher:pirate:

The Dream
04-28-2007, 12:27 PM
damn Russell already taken.....I'm late...

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 12:28 PM
12:20 p.m.: Oakland selects JaMararcus Russell...with five minutes to spare. But where is JaMarcus? The commish is waiting on stage. Uncomfortable moment.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/columns/story?id=2852167

I just think the kid is aloof and will get eaten alive under the microscope.

hadaad
04-28-2007, 12:29 PM
Johnson or trade down.

76Texan
04-28-2007, 12:29 PM
Lions had picked in the top 10 for the last 5 years! :bat:
this will be the sixth consecutive draft! :gun:

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 12:30 PM
Try this one:
http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draftCast/index

even has a time-limit clock.

I'm there - thanks, mate.

BTW my moneys on the Lions taking Johnson

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:30 PM
Just hopped on to ESPN radio to listen to this thing rather than just sit here in the dark staring at a computer.

They just asked whether the Lions will start to get a bulk discount if they draft another WR. The answer no, because they like to over pay them. Glad I turned it on.

hadaad
04-28-2007, 12:30 PM
Lions had picked in the top 10 for the last 5 years! :bat:
this will be the sixth consecutive draft! :gun:

And next year will be the seventh.

Poor management, poor coaching, poor player evaluation and development.

And they keep taking wide receivers when they need more than that.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 12:31 PM
Lions take Calvin Johnson!!!

The Critic
04-28-2007, 12:31 PM
Detroit takes Calvin Johnson.

JDizzle
04-28-2007, 12:32 PM
lawl

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 12:32 PM
And I'm right!

The Dream
04-28-2007, 12:32 PM
and there goes Johnson........is D Town serious about trading away their pick????

76Texan
04-28-2007, 12:33 PM
ron jaworski says kitna is not the answer for detroit. but they picked CJ anyway.

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:33 PM
Matt Millen takes BPA.

Question is does he stay there or is he trade bait.

Millen has big giant rocks.

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 12:34 PM
*Jedi mind trick on the Browns*..."You don't want Peterson..you don't want Peterson!"

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 12:34 PM
and there goes Johnson........is D Town serious about trading away their pick????

Only if they get the farm adn the cows to go with it.

The Critic
04-28-2007, 12:34 PM
Cleveland could go a lot of ways here but I'm thinking it's between Peterson, Quinn and Thomas.

So they'll probably take Adams. :shades:

hadaad
04-28-2007, 12:34 PM
Cleveland: Quinn? Thomas? Peterson? Which one?

76Texan
04-28-2007, 12:34 PM
And I'm right!

you are very wise, sir! :wild:

MojoX
04-28-2007, 12:34 PM
The Lions could still go QB in the 2nd.

hadaad
04-28-2007, 12:35 PM
Matt Millen takes BPA.

Question is does he stay there or is he trade bait.

Millen has big giant rocks.

Yeah, but they're all in his head.

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:35 PM
Calvin Johnson and Roy Williams... wow if only they had a QB.

alphajoker
04-28-2007, 12:35 PM
CJ gone to the Lions...I wonder if Peterson or Thomas will go next? Maybe even Quinn.

Il_Bruno
04-28-2007, 12:35 PM
Matt Millen takes BPA.

Question is does he stay there or is he trade bait.

Millen has big giant rocks.


I bet Millen wishes he hadnt taken all those receivers now. CJ falls into his lap and he's damned if he takes him, damned if he doesnt.

Silver Oak
04-28-2007, 12:36 PM
So will Williams be traded now? Who would want him?

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 12:36 PM
12:34 p.m.: Stay tuned on this one, folks. Calvin Johnson knows not to get used to that Lions jersey. I do know one scout in Detroit that is desperately trying to convince Matt Millen to stick with Johnson right now.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/columns/story?id=2852167

awtysst
04-28-2007, 12:36 PM
CJ gone to the Lions...I wonder if Peterson or Thomas will go next? Maybe even Quinn.

I say Quinn

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 12:36 PM
It's gotta be between Thomas and Quinn for the Browns. I think they should go Thomas but I bet they go Quinn.

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:37 PM
Cleveland could go a lot of ways here but I'm thinking it's between Peterson, Quinn and Thomas.

So they'll probably take Adams. :shades:

Come on down Brady Quinn. If the owner wants him, they take him. After all when it comes time for performane review you can pass the blame.

Lucky
04-28-2007, 12:37 PM
ron jaworski says kitna is not the answer for detroit. but they picked CJ anyway.
Yeah, but the Lions can take one of the 2nd tier QBs and claim to have him rated as high (or higher) than Quinn. I've seen where they like John Beck from BYU with their 2nd round pick.

The Dream
04-28-2007, 12:38 PM
I just don't see why you trade him to Tampa...I mean a tandem of Williams and Johnson is just sick....

........please don't take Adrian Cleveland!!!!

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:38 PM
12:34 p.m.: Stay tuned on this one, folks. Calvin Johnson knows not to get used to that Lions jersey. I do know one scout in Detroit that is desperately trying to convince Matt Millen to stick with Johnson right now.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/columns/story?id=2852167

:splits: = Mike Martz

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 12:40 PM
Mel will blast Cleveland if they do not take a Quinn. Unless they take Thomas.

I say they take Thomas.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 12:41 PM
:splits: = Mike Martz

:fishing: = Joe Thomas

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2007, 12:42 PM
Cleveland takes Joe Thomas.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 12:42 PM
Cleveland takes Joe Thomas.

Does the Brady Quinn slide start now?

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 12:42 PM
Dolphins fans are going nuts.

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:42 PM
Word is the Lions are shopping Mike Williams, does anyone seriously think anyone bites?

Marcus
04-28-2007, 12:42 PM
Mel will blast Cleveland if they do not take a Quinn. Unless they take Thomas.

I say they take Thomas.

You were right!

The Dream
04-28-2007, 12:42 PM
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!!!

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 12:43 PM
Browns take Thomas

EDIT: I'll stop trying to scoop you - not fast enough from here!!

Peterson is still out there!

hadaad
04-28-2007, 12:43 PM
:fishing: = Joe Thomas

I hope that front offices see his fishing as a lack of dedication and he falls to #10.

Il_Bruno
04-28-2007, 12:43 PM
good pick for cleveland, but i wonder where quinn goes now.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 12:43 PM
Word is the Lions are shopping Mike Williams, does anyone seriously think anyone bites?

Maybe Marv Albert?

On a serious note...NO!

The Critic
04-28-2007, 12:43 PM
With the Browns taking Thomas, the Bucs will take Gaines Adams and trade him to the Lions for Johnson (if the rumours are true).

HoustonFrog
04-28-2007, 12:43 PM
Joe Thomas, well Brady will slip to Minny at the least now. That mean Peterson might be moving down too.

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:45 PM
If Calvin Johnson is being shipped to Tampa look for Gaines Adams here.

It would be funny to me if the Lions agreed in principle to the trade make TB draft Adams and then stick with CJ. Oh the betrayal.

awtysst
04-28-2007, 12:45 PM
Yeah I can see Minne taking Quinn now

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 12:45 PM
What are Tampa looking for in the first?

Lucky
04-28-2007, 12:45 PM
Cleveland takes Joe Thomas.
That pretty much forces Tampa to take Adams and make a deal with Detroit. Thomas was their fall back pick, and now he's gone.

hadaad
04-28-2007, 12:46 PM
He says after Cleveland takes Thomas.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 12:47 PM
Peterson's collar-bone scares me, but I'd still be stocked if he fell to #10.

awtysst
04-28-2007, 12:47 PM
haha, Sal paqlontonio said Phil Simms instead of chris!

hadaad
04-28-2007, 12:47 PM
Yeah I can see Minne taking Quinn now

I don't see it. They traded up to get Jackson last year in the second. I just don't see it.

I think TB takes Gaines Adams and Arz takes Peterson.

76Texan
04-28-2007, 12:48 PM
The Bucs will surprised everybody and take another QB! :gun:

The Dream
04-28-2007, 12:48 PM
I don't see why AZ would take Peterson unless they're trading him...

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 12:49 PM
from February regarding Peterson

Our suppossed fear is Cleveland and someone trading up. I just do not see Cleveland taking a RB since they have addressed offensive skill position players in the first round in 2004 and 2005. With Bentley done and Crennel holding on by a thread they go Thomas or Branch since their DL and OL picks in the 1st and 2nd rounds are not with the team any longer - Brown, Warren and Faine. If Crennel goes pretty he is going Quinn in my opinion.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 12:49 PM
Joe Thomas, well Brady will slip to Minny at the least now. That mean Peterson might be moving down too.

Curve ball Tampa Bay selects Quinn in a trade with the Dolphins or Simms to the Lions.

hadaad
04-28-2007, 12:49 PM
Wow. Guy on the radio said that not only is Gaines Adams the fastest Defensive end, he's also the fastest defensive lineman.

Wow.

alphajoker
04-28-2007, 12:49 PM
Nice pick Browns! That just increased our chances of getting Peterson. If the Cards pass on Peterson too, then I truly think we will be able to get him. IMO, the other teams that pick in front of the Texans don't have RB that high on their needs. But I guess we'll just see. idonno:

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:50 PM
The Bucs are in a bad spot here, the two best guys off the board and the next biggest talent is AD and you already have Cadillac.

The Critic
04-28-2007, 12:51 PM
Cleveland takes Joe Thomas.

Does the Brady Quinn slide start now?
Either that or someone trades up for him. Washington has been looking to trade down.

hadaad
04-28-2007, 12:51 PM
Trade back? Maybe pick up a safety?

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 12:51 PM
If TB picks Gaines Adams it means a trade, the question is at what cost?

The Dream
04-28-2007, 12:51 PM
Nice pick Browns! That just increased our chances of getting Peterson. If the Cards pass on Peterson too, then I truly think we will be able to get him. IMO, the other teams that pick in front of the Texans don't have RB that high on their needs. But I guess we'll just see.


I hope you're right man.............*dream keeps praying*

Buffi2
04-28-2007, 12:52 PM
[QUOTE=TexMexVato;657847 That just increased our chances of getting Peterson. If the Cards pass on Peterson too, then I truly think we will be able to get him. :[/QUOTE]

I don't think we will take him, even if he is still around. Kubiak might be just a little leery of banking on anyone with injury issues. We/He had enuf of that last year...IMO

:texflag:

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 12:53 PM
I hope you're right man.............*dream keeps praying*

*Bradster prays too!*

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2007, 12:53 PM
It looks like Gaines Adams is the guy.

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2007, 12:54 PM
I'm checking out for a while the wife has awoken and I have a case of the guilts.

I will be back.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 12:54 PM
Tampa takes Gaines Adams.

Trade Time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

76Texan
04-28-2007, 12:55 PM
I'm checking out for a while the wife has awoken and I have a case of the guilts.

I will be back.

she can't see ya in the dark! :user:

The Dream
04-28-2007, 12:56 PM
keep dropping Adrian, keep dropping..........

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 12:57 PM
Tampa takes Gaines Adams.

Trade Time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK who in the world picked Adams' tie?? It just does not match his suit or shirt.

Marcus
04-28-2007, 12:57 PM
Nice pick Browns! That just increased our chances of getting Peterson. If the Cards pass on Peterson too, then I truly think we will be able to get him. IMO, the other teams that pick in front of the Texans don't have RB that high on their needs. But I guess we'll just see. idonno:

No! Please GOD, NO! I hope a team before us takes Peterson, though, because I don't want that temptation around at 10. I'd like a back who can get on the field every now and then, thank you.

Take Peterson right now Arizona . . please!

The Critic
04-28-2007, 12:57 PM
My guess is that Arizona will take Landry unless they trade their pick. Still don't think there's any real chance that Peterson will fall to us.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 12:57 PM
The Peterson dream ends here, as Arizone will take him.

Goose is 4 for 4 so far, and he has Peterson going to 'Zona.

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 12:57 PM
Any way of refreshing the page AND staying on this thread?

76Texan
04-28-2007, 12:58 PM
OK who in the world picked Adams' tie?? It just does not match his suit or shirt.
he dont care, he be driving a lamborghini soon.

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 01:00 PM
The Peterson dream ends here, as Arizone will take him.

Goose is 4 for 4 so far, and he has Peterson going to 'Zona.

Noooooooooooooooooooooo!:gun:

The Critic
04-28-2007, 01:00 PM
The longer Arizona takes to decide, the more likely we'll see them trading down.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 01:01 PM
Any way of refreshing the page AND staying on this thread?

Just hit refresh in on your tool bar, it never bumps me from the thread I'm in.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:02 PM
Arizona takes Levi brown per Michael Smith ... and I go to him for my Football stuff.

Marcus
04-28-2007, 01:02 PM
Those dumb talking heads actually think the Cards should take Levi Brown. I mean I like Levi and all, but not at 4. Sheesh!

The Critic
04-28-2007, 01:03 PM
Arizona takes Levi brown per Michael Smith ... and I go to him for my Football stuff.
That would be a good pick for them, but they could trade down a couple of spots and still get him.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2007, 01:03 PM
Cardinals take Levi Brown!!!

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 01:03 PM
Arizona takes Levi brown per Michael Smith ... and I go to him for my Football stuff.
yup

Il_Bruno
04-28-2007, 01:04 PM
The longer Arizona takes to decide, the more likely we'll see them trading down.


maybe thats the case but teams always seem to take their time selecting players, even though they've had over 4 months to assess prospects and think of potential scenarios.


does 10 more minutes really make that much of a difference? :um:




** too late, my post was a couple minutes late...

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:04 PM
That would be a good pick for them, but they could trade down a couple of spots and still get him.

Ding Michael Smith is a genius.

HoustonFrog
04-28-2007, 01:04 PM
Levi Brown..WOW..I guess that is fine but that is high to me

Guys are moving down though..good for our value.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 01:04 PM
Levi Brown, a touch of a reach. But I like the pick.

Nevermind, one last hurdle for us and Peterson...Minnesota.

Marcus
04-28-2007, 01:04 PM
Those dumb talking heads actually think the Cards should take Levi Brown. I mean I like Levi and all, but not at 4. Sheesh!

Oh MY GOD! They actually took him!!!!

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:04 PM
That would be a good pick for them, but they could trade down a couple of spots and still get him.

Atlanta loves Levi, they could not do that.

The Critic
04-28-2007, 01:05 PM
Wow. First reach of the day.

Now we see if Miami wants Quinn badly enough to jump over the Vikings.

Somehow Peterson is still on the board.

swisher
04-28-2007, 01:05 PM
Levi Brown, a touch of a reach. But I like the pick.

Nevermind, one last hurdle for us and Peterson...Minnesota.

And any other team who wants to trade up and get him...like, say, with the Redskins.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2007, 01:06 PM
Peterson could fall to us. Minny might go with Quinn.

J-Russ
04-28-2007, 01:06 PM
Yes, now we don't have a chance at picking him at 10 now. I think Brown is going to be a bust, and now this is dropping some good offensive player

Marcus
04-28-2007, 01:07 PM
Please GOD, someone take Peterson before 10 . . PLEASE!!!

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2007, 01:08 PM
Laron Landry could fall to us as well because the Falcons seem to want Jamaal Anderson.

ledzeppelin229
04-28-2007, 01:08 PM
I'm alive...missed the first 2 picks but I'm present and accounted for after a rough drinking night.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:09 PM
Washington takes Okoye ..... long shot but I like making reaches.

hadaad
04-28-2007, 01:09 PM
Laron Landry could fall to us as well because the Falcons seem to want Jamaal Anderson.

He'd have to get past Washington.

Il_Bruno
04-28-2007, 01:09 PM
They reached for brown to replace leonard davis i guess, but nothing about levi brown really excites me that much.


Next year the tackle class it a lot deeper so this pick will look idiotic, IMO.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:11 PM
They reached for brown to replace leonard davis i guess, but nothing about levi brown really excites me that much.


Next year the tackle class it a lot deeper so this pick will look idiotic, IMO.

But you can not draft this year based on next year, not when you have to protect Lienart and because of no running game, they did not have much of a choice.

76Texan
04-28-2007, 01:11 PM
looks like it will start to take longer now.
phone ringing...

uhcougar08
04-28-2007, 01:11 PM
OMG, AD may actually be there at 10, or even Hall. We are sitting pretty!!!

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 01:11 PM
Peterson could fall to us. Minny might go with Quinn.

Reckon you're right on both counts!

hadaad
04-28-2007, 01:12 PM
Kiper's whining about how Ginn doesn't fall on his board but that Washington might take him anyway.

That's it, Mel, take your big board and go home, then.

Il_Bruno
04-28-2007, 01:12 PM
if petterson lasted to #10, would it be better to trade our pick to a team thats desperate for a running back, or perhaps go with the denver trade that seems to be on the table? Would they even consider moving out of the pick after the Texans FO passed on Bush last year?



Petterson at #10 is a great value, but i dont think thats kube's style.

Thorn
04-28-2007, 01:12 PM
I am SO gonna laugh my ass off if Brady Quinn is still avaliable for the 10 pick.

Il_Bruno
04-28-2007, 01:13 PM
But you can not draft this year based on next year, not when you have to protect Lienart and because of no running game, they did not have much of a choice.


true true but thats quite a reach there, brown at 5, there had to have been a better alternative

hadaad
04-28-2007, 01:13 PM
I don't see Quinn making it past Miami if he's still there, Trent Green or no Trent Green.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2007, 01:13 PM
Looks like the Redskins take Landry.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:13 PM
I am SO gonna laugh my ass off if Brady Quinn is still avaliable for the 10 pick.

As a ND guy I would cry.

Marcus
04-28-2007, 01:14 PM
Looks like it's LaRon Landry.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 01:15 PM
Landry is the pick that makes the most sense here, unless Washington can work a trade.

HoustonFrog
04-28-2007, 01:16 PM
Landry was needed in Minny bad too. They will look Quinn or D-line here. There isn't a WR they will take at that spot IMO.

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 01:16 PM
Jamaal Anderson

hadaad
04-28-2007, 01:16 PM
Landry was needed in Minny bad too. They will look Quinn or D-line here. There isn't a WR they will take at that spot IMO.

I could see them taking Peterson too.

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 01:18 PM
Jamaal Anderson
Bob Saget, it is LaRon.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:18 PM
They did it but with Taylor there this is just stupid on there part. I know BPA but Anderson or Okoye would be a better fit to improve the team overall.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 01:18 PM
Landry's off the board...now is it Peterson time?

dickieb
04-28-2007, 01:19 PM
Lot of good players left, maybe a trade down situation for us!

alphajoker
04-28-2007, 01:20 PM
Three more picks until it's the Texans! :splits:

hadaad
04-28-2007, 01:21 PM
They did it but with Taylor there this is just stupid on there part. I know BPA but Anderson or Okoye would be a better fit to improve the team overall.

I'll agree with you on Anderson but they have solid DTs.

HoustonFrog
04-28-2007, 01:23 PM
I could see them taking Peterson too.

Could be, they were just terrible against the pass and needed a DB/S or a rusher. But considering their QB/RB, it could work too.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2007, 01:23 PM
Maybe the Vikings take too long and miss their pick.

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 01:23 PM
Vikes surely take Quinn

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:23 PM
Maybe the Vikings take too long and miss their pick.

again

hadaad
04-28-2007, 01:24 PM
Vikes to trade back with Miami?

The Critic
04-28-2007, 01:25 PM
Maybe the Vikings take too long and miss their pick.Like that's ever happened before.

Oh, that's right...it did. :gun:

dickieb
04-28-2007, 01:25 PM
I think the Vikes take Peterson?

Lucky
04-28-2007, 01:26 PM
Vikes to trade back with Miami?
Miami can just stay at #9 and wait for Quinn to fall in their lap.

Wolf
04-28-2007, 01:26 PM
peterson is as good as gone on this one

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2007, 01:27 PM
Vikings take Peterson.

Silver Oak
04-28-2007, 01:28 PM
well....at least AD in will be playing in the NFC and not the AFC.

The Dream
04-28-2007, 01:28 PM
pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease keep falling adrian............

Marcus
04-28-2007, 01:28 PM
Thank You Lord!

The Dream
04-28-2007, 01:28 PM
noooooooooooooooooooooooo

dickieb
04-28-2007, 01:29 PM
Bye Bye Peterson.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:29 PM
thank You Lord!

I second that. :splits:

Silver Oak
04-28-2007, 01:29 PM
Minny got a heck of a football player.

swisher
04-28-2007, 01:29 PM
Texans look a little better in the Schaub trade...he would not have been there at #8.

76Texan
04-28-2007, 01:29 PM
no more RB controversy for the Texans!

The Dream
04-28-2007, 01:29 PM
Texans look a little better in the Schaub trade...he would not have been there at #8.

^^^true

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:30 PM
Hmmmmm who does Atl take??

Marcus
04-28-2007, 01:30 PM
Come on Patrick Willis!

dickieb
04-28-2007, 01:30 PM
Hopefully we can trade down now.

HoustonFrog
04-28-2007, 01:30 PM
That's no good. I didn't want to take him. I just wanted him to be there and to have teams want to move up. The more good guys left, the merrier. Quinn will go to Miami now and we will have our choice of DBS, WRS and the left over D-linemen...Okoye would be interesting

I'm wanting to move down still

Wolf
04-28-2007, 01:30 PM
brady quinn :splits:


Joking of course but that would be funny

Buffi2
04-28-2007, 01:31 PM
I second that. :splits:

I'll third that and have another drink.:beerfunnel:

hot pickle
04-28-2007, 01:31 PM
wow i dont know about that for the vikings, i was startin to think just maybe the texans could get him.... we are gonna trade down for sure now... no levi or adrian

Marcus
04-28-2007, 01:32 PM
If Patrick Willis is there at 10, I hope the Texans take him and not trade down.

swisher
04-28-2007, 01:32 PM
I wonder if we would have taken Quinn here had we not made the trade.

76Texan
04-28-2007, 01:32 PM
will the falcons take nelson or willis?

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 01:33 PM
I leave.................depressed. Hope is lost. Mediocrity beckons again.

:panic:

I swear, if Quinn falls to 10, I'll vomit.

Wolf
04-28-2007, 01:33 PM
If Patrick Willis is there at 10, I hope the Texans take him and not trade down.

no guarantees on who would be left on a trade down, but I am thinking that too

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:33 PM
Jamal Anderson per Michael Smith .. ok I will go with that.

swisher
04-28-2007, 01:34 PM
I'm crossing my fingers for Okoye or a trade.

Wolf
04-28-2007, 01:34 PM
good thing about Peterson, is that I do like the Vikings and if he wasn't to become a Texan, that would be my next place

phantom17
04-28-2007, 01:34 PM
HaHa! It would be funny/shocking if Atl takes The Mighty Quinn!:)

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 01:35 PM
If Atl takes Willis it'll mean to trade down for Houston.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:35 PM
HaHa! It would be funny/shocking if Atl takes The Mighty Quinn!:)

I would laugh my ass off so freakin hard .. and feel bad for the Notre Dame boy.

Bradster592
04-28-2007, 01:37 PM
OK..calm again.

Quinn goes to the Fins, we take....Gonzalez? Willis?

The Critic
04-28-2007, 01:37 PM
If Patrick Willis is there at 10, I hope the Texans take him and not trade down.
The irony is that if Willis is gone we may not have any trade partners.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:38 PM
OK..calm again.

Quinn goes to the Fins, we take....Gonzalez? Willis?

Gonzo?? waaaaaaay to high for him with Bowe and Meechem still on the board. trade down and get Stanley ...PLEASE!!!!


:fans:

Il_Bruno
04-28-2007, 01:38 PM
I felt if Petterson fell it would be a pick your poison type of situation. Draft an injury prone RB or be ridiculed for passing on such a great talent. Im glad the choise isnt on the table anymore.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2007, 01:38 PM
Atlanta goes with Jamaal Anderson.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 01:38 PM
Michael Smith is 2 for 2.

dickieb
04-28-2007, 01:39 PM
Jamal Anderson to Atlanta.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2007, 01:39 PM
Anderson????

REACH!!!!!!!!

The Critic
04-28-2007, 01:39 PM
OK..calm again.

Quinn goes to the Fins, we take....Gonzalez? Willis?If we take Gonzales at #10 I will be positively sick. He's not even the best WR on the board.

Willis OTOH would be great.

awtysst
04-28-2007, 01:39 PM
So if miami takes Quinn, what do we do?