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Runner
04-28-2007, 08:41 PM
the mob in tennessee will be calling for some heads pretty soon

I don't know that I'd pay too much attention to the fans. The Titans have been a successful organization in the past and they have a pretty knowledgeable staff. They have some good coaches that have been successful in their own right. I wouldn't write them off - like the fans here did last year, picking them the obvious worst team in the division.

It is interesting how teams rate players. Many people here labeled Brown and Ginn a reach at #10 and Brown especially went lower. Too bad it takes around three years to evaluate a draft; it'll make for some discussion fodder for a long time though.

On a nother nore, Gonzalez should fit in very nicely at Indy.

HoustonFrog
04-28-2007, 08:43 PM
This is what on the official site.

I'm assuming once a guy like Steve Smith went they just decided to load up again since theyt covered alot in FA and have made good moves today. Probably just following their chart.

awtysst
04-28-2007, 08:51 PM
I don't know that I'd pay too much attention to the fans. The Titans have been a successful organization in the past and they have a pretty knowledgeable staff. They have some good coaches that have been successful in their own right. I wouldn't write them off - like the fans here did last year, picking them the obvious worst team in the division.

It is interesting how teams rate players. Many people here labeled Brown and Ginn a reach at #10 and Brown especially went lower. Too bad it takes around three years to evaluate a draft; it'll make for some discussion fodder for a long time though.

On a nother nore, Gonzalez should fit in very nicely at Indy.

Yeah but Floyd Reese was the architect. He is no longer there.

Maddict5
04-28-2007, 08:52 PM
damn, i was hoping either wright, wilson would be there for us @#73, mccauley's still could be there i guess

LORK 88
04-28-2007, 08:54 PM
Give me a speedy #2 WR today or a FS who can defend the deep pass and I will be happy.

Runner
04-28-2007, 08:55 PM
Yeah but Floyd Reese was the architect. He is no longer there.

Jeff Fisher and his staff will get the best out of the players they have. I will take that over a team (I'm NOT talking about the Texans here) of more talented under achievers.

ledzeppelin229
04-28-2007, 09:01 PM
Damn. Carolina picked Kalil.

LORK 88
04-28-2007, 09:02 PM
Damn. Carolina picked Kalil.
their having themselves a very good draft.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 09:03 PM
Andy Reed just made a mistake and might get a fine by the NFL.

76Texan
04-28-2007, 09:03 PM
Damn, I went 33 for 35 :hothboy: I bet I get screwed for the last 15, I only did a top 50.

Kolb didn't make my top 50, and Eriv Wright did so I know I can;t do that well the rest of the way.


Chris Houston goes to Atlanta, and he to didn't make my top 50. My bad he did at 47.you good!

awtysst
04-28-2007, 09:05 PM
Andy Reed just made a mistake and might get a fine by the NFL.

he was just messing around. I hope the commish recognizes a joke from a real incident of tampering

76Texan
04-28-2007, 09:06 PM
Kolb to the Eagles makes sense. Kolb needs a couple of years on the sideline, and Reid has to have concerns regarding McNabb's ability to stay healthy.

Typical of Kiper to criticize the pick when they don't go off his board. Kolb and Beck had outperformed Stanton and Edwards all year. It was Kolb over Beck due to his upside in athleticism and age. Beck should be the next QB to go, probably to Miami or Detroit.
that Reid decides on this pick tell me he's veRry impresseD!

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 09:08 PM
Just because I want everyone to know it ... Astros 10 - Brewers 1


:splits: :doot:

Maddict5
04-28-2007, 09:12 PM
he was just messing around. I hope the commish recognizes a joke from a real incident of tampering

what did he do???

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 09:13 PM
what did he do???

He said he would love to have a WR like Keyshawn johnson.

Maddict5
04-28-2007, 09:16 PM
He said he would love to have a WR like Keyshawn johnson.

and thats tampering how?

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 09:18 PM
and thats tampering how?

Your not allowd to talk about another player on another team. He was kidding but forgot about the rule and was just messing with Keysawn.

The Critic
04-28-2007, 09:19 PM
Dan Bazuin?

Someone's going to take a flyer on McCauley, very soon.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 09:22 PM
Dan Bazuin?

Someone's going to take a flyer on McCauley, very soon.

They did he is listed on Craigslist.com now :joker:

HoustonFrog
04-28-2007, 09:23 PM
Texans within 10.

LORK 88
04-28-2007, 09:24 PM
Dan Bazuin?

Someone's going to take a flyer on McCauley, very soon.
Hopefully thats not us.

Maddict5
04-28-2007, 09:24 PM
Your not allowd to talk about another player on another team. He was kidding but forgot about the rule and was just messing with Keysawn.

yeah but coaches do that all the time...how many times last season did you hear GK say stuff like 'we loved him coming out of college and would love to have him here' or something like that...storm in a teacup methinks

anyway mccauley's still on the board...take him or david irons in the 3rd..seems like there's better depth at wr tomorrow

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 09:26 PM
yeah but coaches do that all the time...how many times last season did you hear GK say stuff like 'we loved him coming out of college and would love to have him here' or something like that...storm in a teacup methinks

anyway mccauley's still on the board...take him or david irons in the 3rd..seems like there's better depth at wr tomorrow

A guy coming out of college is one thing but a pro-player under contract with another team is completely different.

Great pick-up by the Bears with the rb Jackson. Oppps that was GB, still a great pick-up.

The Critic
04-28-2007, 09:34 PM
I think we see McCauley gone here to the Saints.

Lucky
04-28-2007, 09:34 PM
7 picks to go.This is what my Texans board would look like:

Jason Hill WR Washington State
Marcus McCauley CB Fresno State
Tanard Jackson FS Syracuse
Jonathan Wade CB Tennessee
Doug Free T Northern Illinois
Josh Gattis FS Wake Forest
Tim Shaw OLB Penn State

Silver Oak
04-28-2007, 09:35 PM
please let Daymeion Hughes be there....

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 09:38 PM
please let Daymeion Hughes be there in the fourth round....
I hear ya

The Critic
04-28-2007, 09:38 PM
please let Daymeion Hughes be there....
He might be there tomorrow.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 09:40 PM
He might be there tomorrow.

I think he will be. I think they take a WR here.

Maddict5
04-28-2007, 09:42 PM
7 picks to go.This is what my Texans board would look like:

Jason Hill WR Washington State
Marcus McCauley CB Fresno State
Tanard Jackson FS Syracuse
Jonathan Wade CB Tennessee
Doug Free T Northern Illinois
Josh Gattis FS Wake Forest
Tim Shaw OLB Penn State


id add in these 3:
david irons, cb
jacoby jones, (wr-who i think will be the pick)
aundrae allison, wr

GTFan
04-28-2007, 09:43 PM
7 picks to go.This is what my Texans board would look like:

Jason Hill WR Washington State
Marcus McCauley CB Fresno State
Tanard Jackson FS Syracuse
Jonathan Wade CB Tennessee
Doug Free T Northern Illinois
Josh Gattis FS Wake Forest
Tim Shaw OLB Penn State

I like Wade in the 3rd and Sabby Piscitelli FS, Oregon State in the 4th. That would give us a very young secondary with a lot of potential in Drob -- Wade -- Piscitelli -- Earl/Brown.

I've heard a lot of clammer for a WR in the 3rd but I don't think it's nearly as big a need as the secondary.

Maddict5
04-28-2007, 09:45 PM
I like Wade in the 3rd and Sabby Piscitelli FS, Oregon State in the 4th. That would give us a very young secondary with a lot of potential in Drob -- Wade -- Piscitelli -- Earl/Brown.

I've heard a lot of clammer for a WR in the 3rd but I don't think it's nearly as big a need as the secondary.

gone to TB already a few pick ago

GTFan
04-28-2007, 09:45 PM
I like Wade in the 3rd and Sabby Piscitelli FS, Oregon State in the 4th. That would give us a very young secondary with a lot of potential in Drob -- Wade -- Piscitelli -- Earl/Brown.

I've heard a lot of clammer for a WR in the 3rd but I don't think it's nearly as big a need as the secondary.

Woops. Sabby is gone. My bad. And he wasn't even on Mel's big board.

The Critic
04-28-2007, 09:46 PM
I think we see McCauley gone here to the Saints.Or they could take another CB from Kent State instead. Hard to believe McCauley has fallen this far.

I'm horrible at draft prognostication.

Definitely never would've called the Marinovich pick.

GTFan
04-28-2007, 09:52 PM
Please, a CB here. There's some pretty decent ones on the board.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 09:53 PM
We need to go secondary.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2007, 09:54 PM
Damn, there goes McCauley.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 09:54 PM
Houston on the clock!


:texflag:

dickieb
04-28-2007, 09:55 PM
Here we go...

GTFan
04-28-2007, 09:55 PM
dang, McCauley taken in front of us. I wasn't a fan, but that only leaves Hughes, Wade and T Jackson in the secondary.

It'll be WR now.

Silver Oak
04-28-2007, 09:55 PM
they're going too fast....I need to go slower!!!

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 09:55 PM
three minutes away...

Maddict5
04-28-2007, 09:55 PM
looks like we'll have plenty of wr/cb/fs options based on the last few picks (afraid a good shot of them would be taken)

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 09:56 PM
I say it will be Jacoby. Kubes loves him.

GTFan
04-28-2007, 09:56 PM
Figures, Texans pick will be taken during a commercial. Thank goodness for the tracker.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 09:56 PM
Do we take a flyer on Bush?

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 09:57 PM
id add in these 3:
david irons, cb
jacoby jones, (wr-who i think will be the pick)
aundrae allison, wr
Nice

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2007, 09:57 PM
Jacoby Jones is now a Texan.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 09:57 PM
I'll take Jacoby Jones

Seņor Stan
04-28-2007, 09:58 PM
Jones it is

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 09:58 PM
Do we take a flyer on Bush?
From what I've heard, he won't go the first day.

GTFan
04-28-2007, 09:58 PM
Kubes has no freakin clue the secondary even exists. Nice....

I'd much rather have Jason Hill over Jones.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2007, 09:58 PM
I wonder what's going on with Jason Hill.

dickieb
04-28-2007, 09:59 PM
What about our O-LINE!!!

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 09:59 PM
Kubes has no freakin clue the secondary even exists. Nice....

I'd much rather have Jason Hill over Jones.

He also knows we do not have a #2 WR ... for your info, thank you very much!!

ensign_lee
04-28-2007, 09:59 PM
Um. Who'd we pick? They're already on Baltimore...

RTP2110
04-28-2007, 10:00 PM
I dunno much about Jones, maybe you guys can fill me in. I wanted a secondary player.

Mr. White
04-28-2007, 10:00 PM
Um. Who'd we pick? They're already on Baltimore...

Jacoby Jones

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 10:00 PM
Um. Who'd we pick? They're already on Baltimore...

Jacoby Jones is now a Texan.

This is the selection.

Marcus
04-28-2007, 10:01 PM
Say good-bye to Jerome Mathis

Maddict5
04-28-2007, 10:02 PM
Nice

thanks but i dont think i was the only 1 thinking it...glad to have him though:fans:

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 10:02 PM
I dunno much about Jones, maybe you guys can fill me in. I wanted a secondary player.

Jones was brought into Houston for a workout and Kubes raved on him during an interview. He got the guy he wanted.

More of a possession guy from what I know someone who will compliment AJ very nicely.

GTFan
04-28-2007, 10:02 PM
Say good-bye to Jerome Mathis

Yep, Jerome Mathis from Hampton - Jones, Lane.

I mean, Lane?

Marcus
04-28-2007, 10:04 PM
Here's the profile (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2007/jones_jacoby) on Jacoby Jones

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 10:06 PM
Here's the profile (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2007/jones_jacoby) on Jacoby Jones
Positives: Worked hard before the 2006 season to add needed bulk to his frame, putting on an additional 17 pounds without it affecting his overall quickness … Has exceptionally long arms and excellent leaping ability to consistently win jump-ball battles … Has a tight waist, good hip snap, well-developed thighs and calves … Spent considerable time in the coaches' office before the 2006 season reviewing game film and working on his route running technique, showing much better ability to get off the line of scrimmage as a senior than he did in the past … Long strider who has that angular, sprinter's burst, but it is a rapid stride with quick feet and excellent change-of-direction agility … Elusive runner after the catch who shows good effort to compete for the ball in a crowd (was much more physical attacking the ball in 2006 than in previous seasons) … Has improved his strength needed to break tackles and flashes explosive game speed … Is sometimes late off the snap, but it is more a timing rather than a speed issue, as he has the ability to explode out of his stance, but must be conscious of the pre-snap … Uses his long reach and hand punch to defeat the jam and also has the quickness and burst to force defensive backs to come out of their backpedal too early … Runs crisp routes, keeping his pad level down to square in his patterns and has the spin moves needed to turn around and frustrate his coverage assignment … Has the feet and plant-and-drive agility to separate instantly on his cuts … Runs posts and slants well and understands stems, sticks and level, but still needs to work on showing more consistency in transition … Quick to locate the soft areas on the field to sit down in and finds seams and avoids defenders well in the open … Showed improvement in adjusting on the quarterback scramble and has the second gear needed to elude after the catch … Separates out of his breaks cleanly and can run past his opponent on deep routes (must improve transition cuts, though) … When he keeps his pads down and head on a swivel, he can turn on the afterburners to turn a short pass into a big gain … Has very small hands that could be a concern, but knows how to extend and catch outside the framework … Learned how to set up his moves and ride up on the defender better in attempts to separate during 2006 … Alert to the quarterback scramble and works back to the ball quickly … Times his leaps well to go after jump balls and has the body control needed along with the slide to catch the ball in his frame … Has improved his strength to the point that he can consistently run through arm tackles, showing the savvy moves needed to elude … Willing blocker who still needs technique refinement, but gives effort and knows how to use his frame to shield defenders from the ball … Must be more patient waiting for blocks to develop, but has that explosive straight-line burst to consistently be a threat on returns … Has also proven to be a capable kick blocker … His field awareness and vision greatly improved in 2006, as he had only four passes deflected by the opposition, compared to 25 the previous season.

Negatives: Has improved his overall strength, but needs to develop a stronger hand punch, as he tends to get good placement, but lacks power when trying to punch and lock out the defender as a blocker … Will compete for the ball in a crowd, but could be much tougher working his way to the ball … Has excellent quickness, but sometimes takes a rolling start off the snap, making him late to get into his route progression … Needs to improve his ball concentration when working in close quarters, as he tends to hear the defender's feet and the result is he will not always come down with the ball … Has very small hands, but worked hard to use his long arms and utilizes a finger-grab technique to secure the ball (lets the ball into his fingers rather than the palm of his hand) … Shows good urgency to separate on short routes, but sometimes gets turned trying to look the ball in over his outside shoulder on deep throws … Needs to maintain position and shoot his hands quicker when asked to block along the line … His small hands and lapse in concentration have led to several costly fumbles in recent years (eight of nine fumbles recovered by the opposition) and he needs to secure the ball better before turning up field.

Compares To: Kassim Osgood, San Diego Chargers … Much like the Chargers' special teams standout, Jones will need time to develop at the next level, but there is no question that the athletic talent is there … Even though he played vs. lesser competition, he continued to show progress throughout his career … He has only five years of football experience, so he will need time to grasp the playbook, but in the interim, he can bring instant value as a return specialist … He could be this year's second-day draft steal.
Sounds like a good deal

Mr. White
04-28-2007, 10:07 PM
Just saw a funny quote (http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/042507aap.html) by Jones.

"You get a gut feeling," said the 6-foot-4, 210-pound New Orleans native. "And my gut feeling really tells me the Texans or the Titans."

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-28-2007, 10:08 PM
Michael A. Smith to the rescue!

GTFan
04-28-2007, 10:08 PM
He also knows we do not have a #2 WR ... for your info, thank you very much!!

I just think Kevin Walters and Andre Davis are a better #2 WR than Petey Faggins is a #2 cornerback or CC Brown as our FS. We're also paying Kevin Walters $1.5 million to be a #3 WR. A little steep.

It's also a pattern of the Texans neglecting the secondary. DRob is the only first day secondary pick in Texans history.

Thorn
04-28-2007, 10:09 PM
I would have rather had an offensive lineman or a CB or FS here, but, this kid looks pretty good. For missing the 2nd round, I think the Texans did pretty good today. I have no complaints at all.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 10:11 PM
We have a real problem at FS, again.

Mr. White
04-28-2007, 10:11 PM
I just think Kevin Walters and Andre Davis are a better #2 WR than Petey Faggins is a #2 cornerback or CC Brown as our FS. We're also paying Kevin Walters $1.5 million to be a #3 WR. A little steep.

It's also a pattern of the Texans neglecting the secondary. DRob is the only first day secondary pick in Texans history.

I'm not too worried about the secondary. I think that they're better than their stats show.

It usually takes defenses a long time to adjust to a system change. Not to mention the QB couldn't keep them off the field.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 10:12 PM
I just think Kevin Walters and Andre Davis are a better #2 WR than Petey Faggins is a #2 cornerback or CC Brown as our FS. We're also paying Kevin Walters $1.5 million to be a #3 WR. A little steep.

It's also a pattern of the Texans neglecting the secondary. DRob is the only first day secondary pick in Texans history.

I agree they need to adress it but CB was not as deep as WR in this draft. It is not a one year fix on this team so I think they looked at all the positions of need versus BPA and CB would not help this year if not for a couple years so why not take someone who can help how.

the wonger need food
04-28-2007, 10:13 PM
I just think Kevin Walters and Andre Davis are a better #2 WR than Petey Faggins is a #2 cornerback or CC Brown as our FS. We're also paying Kevin Walters $1.5 million to be a #3 WR. A little steep.

It's also a pattern of the Texans neglecting the secondary. DRob is the only first day secondary pick in Texans history.


We made the secondary better today by taking Okoye. But was it enough? Kubiak stated dozens of times last year that he thought the secondary was "fine".

ArlingtonTexan
04-28-2007, 10:14 PM
from nfldraftguys.com

13 Jacoby Jones Lane College 6'3" 210 lbs.
Jones "show me" tour through the pre-draft activities had another successful stop at the combine. He continues to prove himself as a fast, quick, and tough WR in addition to having the long, lean frame that translates well at the next level. Jacoby held his own in the drills, including the gauntlet, at Indy, and has become of the worst kept secrets in the draft.

NFL Comparison: Troy Williamson Minus a Gear and Speed Setting but with Hand-Eye Coordination

Listen to the talk with Jacoby at the Shrine Game.

RTP2110
04-28-2007, 10:16 PM
Good news: ESPN had Kubiak on for a few minutes, and they had a lot of good things to say about the team's direction and draft last year.

Bad news: It's looking more and more like we're going to start next season with Brown and Earl at the safties again.

Maddict5
04-28-2007, 10:17 PM
Sounds like a good deal

yeah sounds like a good, hardworking kid who's really started to try and improve his game...obviously the small hands are a worry but def. looks like a good pick:texflag:


hell of a run on wr lately

Marcus
04-28-2007, 10:20 PM
Can y'all stop whining about the secondary?

Like wonger said, Kubes thinks the secondary is fine, it's the lack of a pass rush that's making the secondary look bad. Drafting Akoye has made the secondary better.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 10:23 PM
Can y'all stop whining about the secondary?

Like wonger said, Kubes thinks the secondary is fine, it's the lack of a pass rush that's making the secondary look bad. Drafting Akoye has made the secondary better.

So you are good with CC Brown and Glen Earl at Saftey? They are a liability and we have done nothing in the last two drafts in the secondary. Fine is not good enough. Fine has kicked our arse for many years.

GTFan
04-28-2007, 10:24 PM
I truly hope Jones ends up our #2 this year, but all signs point to a big project. Jason Hill seems to be a much proven polished product that would contribute this year, not 1-2 years from now.

Specnatz
04-28-2007, 10:25 PM
So you are good with CC Brown and Glen Earl at Saftey? They are a liability and we have done nothing in the last two drafts in the secondary. Fine is not good enough. Fine has kicked our arse for many years.

You can only fix so many mistakes of the past regim in one draft.

dickieb
04-28-2007, 10:25 PM
Will Jacoby Jones even be able to start this year? He sounds young and inexperienced to me. It sounded like Rick Smith said he probably won't even start at WR for another year or two, and that dissapoints me, cause we need help now.

Maddict5
04-28-2007, 10:25 PM
Can y'all stop whining about the secondary?

Like wonger said, Kubes thinks the secondary is fine, it's the lack of a pass rush that's making the secondary look bad. Drafting Akoye has made the secondary better.

i agree, we cant fix everything in 1 yr.
what do you take: a guy you feel can be a quality #2 wr for the next few yrs...or a guy thats you feel is an upgrade but isnt the long-term answer at fs/cb

Marcus
04-28-2007, 10:27 PM
So you are good with CC Brown and Glen Earl at Saftey? They are a liability and we have done nothing in the last two drafts in the secondary. Fine is not good enough. Fine has kicked our arse for many years.

We're not going to plug all the holes in one season, KT.

Silver Oak
04-28-2007, 10:29 PM
maybe Aaron Rouse will be there tomorrow.

Marcus
04-28-2007, 10:29 PM
Will Jacoby Jones even be able to start this year? He sounds young and inexperienced to me. It sounded like Rick Smith said he probably won't even start at WR for another year or two, and that dissapoints me, cause we need help now.

And what 3rd rounder could you get that would "help right now"? Be realistic.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 10:30 PM
The issue is that Kubiak is almost through his second off season and has gone through a draft, FA and the first day of 2007 and has done nothing at Safety. It is not just about this draft.

Maybe he is comfortable with Roc Alexander, Chris McKenzie or Fletcher moving into CB2 and messing with Faggins at FS. Maybe that is the plan. Just as I do not expect Spencer to be up to form next year and bring in Black at LT how can we rely on our current crop of guys to be ready?

We have addressed two needs today in DT and WR/ST, there is nothing wrong with what we have done today in my opinion.

Thorn
04-28-2007, 10:33 PM
I agree that our defensive secondardy needs help, but I also agree that a improved defensive line will take some the pressure off the secondary.

But most of all I agree with those that keep saying you can't plug all the holes in one draft. There's always tomorrow, and who knows, sometimes you can actually pick up some talent in the 4th round. Probably not anyone that will start, but at least add a bit of debth to the team, which we sadly lack.

GTFan
04-28-2007, 10:33 PM
And what 3rd rounder could you get that would "help right now"? Be realistic.

Jonathan Wade, CB, Tennessee or D Hughes, CB Cal, would start from day 1 for the Texans.

Maddict5
04-28-2007, 10:34 PM
The issue is that Kubiak is almost through his second off season and has gone through a draft, FA and the first day of 2007 and has done nothing at Safety. It is not just about this draft.

Maybe he is comfortable with Roc Alexander, Chris McKenzie or Fletcher moving into CB2 and messing with Faggins at FS. Maybe that is the plan. Just as I do not expect Spencer to be up to form next year and bring in Black at LT how can we rely on our current crop of guys to be ready?

We have addressed two needs today in DT and WR/ST, there is nothing wrong with what we have done today in my opinion.


we've not exactly been using luxury picks on kr etc...

Porky
04-28-2007, 10:34 PM
I think we hit the secondary in the 4th round. John Wendling is available, and on this team, can start at FS day one. Good first day considering our 2 picks. We can't possibly hit all of our needs, and Jones is a two way threat at WR and KR. Mathis is injury prone, immature, and won't ever be a real contributor at WR. We just solved all of that! I like that pick.

Now, let's get Wendling, who I think would be a great pick in round 4 (or whomever they like. I trust this staff unlike the last one)

Great first day Texans, and I for one am excited. :texflag:

Marcus
04-28-2007, 10:34 PM
The issue is that Kubiak is almost through his second off season and has gone through a draft, FA and the first day of 2007 and has done nothing at Safety. It is not just about this draft.

Maybe he is comfortable with Roc Alexander, Chris McKenzie or Fletcher moving into CB2 and messing with Faggins at FS. Maybe that is the plan. Just as I do not expect Spencer to be up to form next year and bring in Black at LT how can we rely on our current crop of guys to be ready?

We have addressed two needs today in DT and WR/ST, there is nothing wrong with what we have done today in my opinion.

Again . . . you're not going to plug all the holes in on season. It isn't like we're on the brink of playoff contention.

Kaiser Toro
04-28-2007, 10:40 PM
Again . . . you're not going to plug all the holes in on season. It isn't like we're on the brink of playoff contention.

Exactly, it has been two seasons.

Marcus
04-28-2007, 10:41 PM
Jonathan Wade, CB, Tennessee or D Hughes, CB Cal, would start from day 1 for the Texans.

Neither one of those guys could step right in. They'd get burned so bad, you'd be crying for them be benched. There's good reasons why they are still around in the 3rd round. They got issues. CBs are not deep in this draft. WRs are.

Buffi2
04-28-2007, 10:43 PM
So far, so good.

Jones sounds as if he is a good pick - he will just need a little more coaching and a bit more work - but he should be able to be the return guy if not #2 WR this year. He appears to be willing to work at it and that is more than half the battle right there. Mathis might want to dust off his resume, I don't think he will be around very much longer.

I'm looking forward to the next rounds. I have a feeling that Smith and Kubiak will pull a rabbit or 2 out of their collective hats. They make a good team.

We should be in for a fun ride!
:texflag:

Honoring Earl 34
04-28-2007, 10:45 PM
Exactly, it has been two seasons.

There are still some good FS out there .... I'd give you names but Jerry Jones may be reading .

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 10:45 PM
BOB SAGET! Andy Allenman is gone....

Honoring Earl 34
04-28-2007, 10:46 PM
BOB SAGET! Andy Allenman is gone....

MT were you at Burroughs park today ?

mexican_texan
04-28-2007, 10:48 PM
MT were you at Burroughs park today ?
Like a ninja, I never reveal my location.

Honoring Earl 34
04-28-2007, 10:50 PM
Like a ninja, I never reveal my location.

Well ninja ... I was ... and I know thats close to your turf .

GTFan
04-28-2007, 10:54 PM
Neither one of those guys could step right in. They'd get burned so bad, you'd be crying for them be benched. There's good reasons why they are still around in the 3rd round. They got issues. CBs are not deep in this draft. WRs are.

Drob got burned a lot too the first half of his rookie year. I'm willing to give a DB some time. But, instead, we'll just continue to start a 6th round pick as our #2 instead of a 3rd round one.

I mean, I really hope Jones works out. I swallow my pride on almost a daily basis.

GTFan
04-28-2007, 10:56 PM
Mario Henderson, OT, FSU, gone in the 3rd. I thought he was an interesting OT prospect.

cuppacoffee
04-28-2007, 11:11 PM
A ho-hum boring day for Texan fans. This is a good thing...right.

No where near the crying, biatching, moaning and hammering by the media like last year...

Enough time between picks to help my son remove the gas tank from his malibu, change the elec fuel pump, and put it all back together and running again....:sleep:

Kinda pizzed that Miami took L. Booker just before our third round pick. I sure wanted Booker on our team.

I think our Coach and FO will find a few diamonds in the rough tomorrow.

Any sleeper RB's out there. How about R Taylor, are his 'issues' to much to overcome?

Yes KT ... I know we also need DB's...:D

Suprised that Quinn fell so far, maybe not as good as I thought, we'll see.

:coffee:

Il_Bruno
04-28-2007, 11:14 PM
I was pulling for Daymien Hughes to drop just a little further, but the colts took him. Good fit for their D to.


The way i see it we really just have an issue with one safety. we're starting two SS, and i think brown and earl would be somewhat average SS if they were paired with a true FS, but alas, all they have is each other :gun:



I guess take a S in the 4th, or if theres not one worth the pick just go BPA.

Twitch-Houston
04-28-2007, 11:29 PM
I agree that our defensive secondardy needs help, but I also agree that a improved defensive line will take some the pressure off the secondary.

But most of all I agree with those that keep saying you can't plug all the holes in one draft. There's always tomorrow, and who knows, sometimes you can actually pick up some talent in the 4th round. Probably not anyone that will start, but at least add a bit of debth to the team, which we sadly lack.

I also feel that improving our offense will help our D because they won't be on the field as much.

swtbound07
04-29-2007, 12:00 AM
I would expect a flyer on michael bush in the forth, and josh gattis in the 5th.

The Critic
04-29-2007, 12:01 AM
And what 3rd rounder could you get that would "help right now"? Be realistic.Paul Williams comes to mind, if we're talking wideouts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOyYVnN4bTs

Too bad he's a Thumbtack now.

Kaiser Toro
04-29-2007, 09:49 AM
Draft note: USC does not have a first round pick in the draft for first time since 2002

First-round tallies
SEC players (11)
Defensive players (17)
Defensive ends (5)
Safeties (4)
Wide receivers (6)
Offensive linemen (4)
Underclassmen (14)
LSU Tigers (4)
Trades (5)

Picks 13 through 21 were all defensive players ... last year, picks 12 through 20 were defensive players (there were 19 defensive players taken in last year's first round)

By position
DE (5)
QB (2)
WR (6)
RB (2)
G (1)
OT (3)
DT (2)
LB (3)
CB (3)
S (4)
TE (1)

By conference
SEC (11)
ACC (6)
Big Ten (6)
Big 12 (4)
Big East (2)
Pac 10 (1)
MAC (1)
Independent (1)

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/10155706

Kaiser Toro
04-29-2007, 09:50 AM
-- Through two rounds, there have been 17 SEC Players taken

-- There were 10 trades in the second round

Second-round tallies

By position
Quarterbacks (3)
Wide receivers (3)
Tight ends (1)
Centers (2)
Guards (3)
Offensive tackles (1)
Defensive ends (5)
Defensive tackles (2)
Linebackers (3)
Cornerbacks (3)
Safeties (3)
Running backs (3)

By conference
SEC (6)
Big Ten (5)
Pac-10 (6)
Conference USA (1)
Mountain West (3)
Big 12 (2)
WAC (3)
MAC (1)
MEAC (1)
Big East (1)
ACC (1)
Independent (1)

By school
LSU (4)
Tennessee (4)
Michigan (4)
Texas (4)

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/10155706

kastofsna
05-01-2007, 04:20 PM
Kastafnova (sp) just threw his tv out the window.
not quite. ;)

i gotta admit my first reaction was shock. but not anger. i like ginn. my first logical thought was that Cam Cameron and Randy Mueller spent more time with Quinn than any other team this offseason, so they did their research. we also spent more time with Ginn than any other team. ;)

and John Beck has franchise QB written all over him.

Specnatz
05-01-2007, 04:40 PM
not quite. ;)

i gotta admit my first reaction was shock. but not anger. i like ginn. my first logical thought was that Cam Cameron and Randy Mueller spent more time with Quinn than any other team this offseason, so they did their research. we also spent more time with Ginn than any other team. ;)

and John Beck has franchise QB written all over him.

Glad to have ya back around. Glad you found that quote. Ginn is still injured and my not be ready by springtraining. That is what is so shocking.

:fans:

kastofsna
05-01-2007, 04:46 PM
he won't be in training camp becuase they don't want to risk anything. ginn himself said if there were a game tomorrow he'd be playing.

Trap_Star
05-01-2007, 09:26 PM
not quite. ;)

i gotta admit my first reaction was shock. but not anger. i like ginn. my first logical thought was that Cam Cameron and Randy Mueller spent more time with Quinn than any other team this offseason, so they did their research. we also spent more time with Ginn than any other team. ;)

and John Beck has franchise QB written all over him.

Isnt Beck 30 already?....

kastofsna
05-01-2007, 09:43 PM
26. hardly a concern.

Honoring Earl 34
06-08-2007, 12:46 PM
Because it's slow .

http://www.gbnreport.com/thefanspeaks.html