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J_R
03-29-2007, 03:47 PM
Just an interesting thought/fact to me. Shawn Barber still doesnt have a # but the problem is all the "LB #s" are taken. What number do you think he wears or do you see him wearing? jw

281
03-29-2007, 03:48 PM
i think he'll wear #52 after we cut wong.

Vinny
03-29-2007, 03:49 PM
Just an interesting thought/fact to me. Shawn Barber still doesnt have a # but the problem is all the "LB #s" are taken. What number do you think he wears or do you see him wearing? jwcould be waiting for Morlon Greenwood to get cut.

Errant Hothy
03-29-2007, 03:50 PM
What's teh rule for LB's if all the 50 numbers are taken. DO they get to grab from the 40s or 60s?

TexanFan881
03-29-2007, 03:52 PM
could be waiting for Morlon Greenwood to get cut.

I hope not. If anything cut Wong, Morlon was solid for us last year...

Vinny
03-29-2007, 03:57 PM
I hope not. If anything cut Wong, Morlon was solid for us last year...not for his salary he wasn't. Greenwood is now the 3rd highest paid player at a cap hit of $4,664,000 this year

281
03-29-2007, 04:06 PM
not for his salary he wasn't. Greenwood is now the 3rd highest paid player at a cap hit of $4,664,000 this year

you honestly think we'll cut him?

Errant Hothy
03-29-2007, 04:07 PM
Actually, if we use all the numbers from 50-59 than we can use numbers such as 95 (Greg Llyod had that #) or 91,92,or anything as such.


:elmo: :elmo: :elmo:


http://www.noramsports.com/news/BigTen/Football/Michigan/Photo/LHall1.jpg


GET THIS GUY!

Thanks for the answer.

J_R
03-29-2007, 04:08 PM
Yeah that is true but all those #s are taken besides 91? See him wearing #91?

real
03-29-2007, 04:11 PM
you honestly think we'll cut him?

I don't know why everyone is so high on Morlon...

He was at best insignificant last year....

To be a WLB in a 4-3, playing next to Demeco and Behind Mario he did an absolutely awful job.....Especially considering the money he's making...


Don't cut him now....Cut him RIGHT now....

PapaL
03-29-2007, 04:18 PM
Just an interesting thought/fact to me. Shawn Barber still doesnt have a # but the problem is all the "LB #s" are taken. What number do you think he wears or do you see him wearing? jw

The 90's series. Remember Peek wearing #98? Thats open.

J_R
03-29-2007, 04:21 PM
All that is left in the 90 series is #91. Also by the way Weaver changed his # to 98

Vinny
03-29-2007, 04:21 PM
you honestly think we'll cut him?
He is the last of the bad Casserly deals and he is on the books for several years...and his play is unremarkable. May be a June 1 cut.

MATRIX
03-29-2007, 04:24 PM
What's teh rule for LB's if all the 50 numbers are taken. DO they get to grab from the 40s or 60s?



LB's are 50's and 90's...remember all the Steelers LBs in the 90's?

Errant Hothy
03-29-2007, 04:30 PM
LB's are 50's and 90's...remember all the Steelers LBs in the 90's?

I do now, but the brain sometime she no work that good.

MATRIX
03-29-2007, 04:32 PM
I do now, but the brain sometime she no work that good.

Me no dat feelin

HuttoKarl
03-29-2007, 04:33 PM
We're not going to cut Greenwood. He's not spectacular, but he's the second best LB we have.

281
03-29-2007, 04:37 PM
We're not going to cut Greenwood. He's not spectacular, but he's the second best LB we have.

yeah... that. though, i could see him cut if we take an LB in the draft, especially the first day. we didn't sign barber and clark for nothing.

aj.
03-29-2007, 05:49 PM
He is the last of the bad Casserly deals .

Sincerely,

TJ

keyfro
03-29-2007, 10:10 PM
wasn't greenwood one of the players smith named that needed to restructure or face being cut?

BigWig
03-30-2007, 07:51 AM
we dont want to cut the wong guy do we?:joker:

BigWig
03-30-2007, 07:53 AM
Sincerely,

TJ

where did you get that avatar aj, man I used to watch that show every sunday when I was a lil tot growing up in htown.
Is it still being shown anywhere?

HuttoKarl
03-30-2007, 08:05 AM
wasn't greenwood one of the players smith named that needed to restructure or face being cut?

No. It was Moulds, Wong and Davis I believe.

Why would we cut one of our two LB's that can tackle?

HOU-TEX
03-30-2007, 08:53 AM
No. It was Moulds, Wong and Davis I believe.

Why would we cut one of our two LB's that can tackle?

I believe it was Payne, Wong and Davis/ Williams that were demanded to restructure.

I agree with some of the other fellas. Greenwood hasn't even been close to performing up to his salary. We've wacked others that were in similar situations. Why would he be any different. If we keep plugging in players that are average at a position, then as a team we'd be the same as the previous 5 years. I'm not sure what I've typed made sense or not. I'm still a little groggy from last night. Whew! :)

HuttoKarl
03-30-2007, 09:35 AM
I believe it was Payne, Wong and Davis/ Williams that were demanded to restructure.

I agree with some of the other fellas. Greenwood hasn't even been close to performing up to his salary. We've wacked others that were in similar situations. Why would he be any different. If we keep plugging in players that are average at a position, then as a team we'd be the same as the previous 5 years. I'm not sure what I've typed made sense or not. I'm still a little groggy from last night. Whew! :)

I'm not saying the guy's necessarily earning his keep, but if we rely on DeMeco and three guys who haven't played a whole season in years, that worries me a bit more than starting a subpar guy who's at least healthy and serviceable.

I don't think this is the best year to make that particular cut.

Unless we take Patrick Willis at 10.

hadaad
03-30-2007, 09:43 AM
I seem to remember some LBs wearing numbers in the 70s as well. I guess that's in extreme cases, though.

Vinny
03-30-2007, 09:48 AM
I seem to remember some LBs wearing numbers in the 70s as well. I guess that's in extreme cases, though. Karl Mecklenburg did but they have since changed the numbering rules and I think he was used as an elephant and he was hand down player as well as a stand up linebacker most of the time.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Ring%20of%20Fame%20Pix/meck_rof.jpg

Texan_Bill
03-30-2007, 10:42 AM
Karl Mecklenburg did but they have since changed the numbering rules and I think he was used as an elephant and he was hand down player as well as a stand up linebacker most of the time.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Ring%20of%20Fame%20Pix/meck_rof.jpg

Similarly, there was Ted Hendricks wearing #83

http://www.hofplayers.com/images/ted_hendricks/ted_hendricks_main.jpg


Funny though, his first 5 years with Baltimore and 1 year with Green Bay, he wore more traditional #56

http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/5d/images.art.com/images/-/Ted-Hendricks--C10108374.jpeg

gtexan02
03-30-2007, 11:24 AM
You are crazy if you think Greenwood is going anywhere.

Is he overpaid? Sure.
Is he cuttable for the Texans? No way. Who would you like to start in his place? Clark and Barber? No way. Barber is a situational guy and Clark is not a long term answer.

I know these are only stats, but lets see which WLB were better than Greenwood last year.

Bullocks - 143 tackles, 2.5 sacks, 1 INT, 2 FF, 1 FR
June - 142 tackles, 1 sack, 3 INTs, 2 FF, 1 FR
Brooking - 136 tackles, 2.5 sacks, 0 INT, 0 FF, 1 FR
Briggs - 130 tackles, 1 sack, 2 INTs, 4 FF, 1 FR
Sims - 124 tackles, .5 sacks, 0 INT, 1 FF, 1 FR
Brooks - 121 tackles, 0 sacks, 3 INTs, 0 FF, 0 FR
Hawk - 119 tackles, 3.5 sacks, 2 INTs, 1 FF, 2 FR
Johnson - 112 tackles, 0.5 sacks, 1 INT, 3 FF, 0 FR
Howard - 110 tackles, 0 sacks, 0 INTs, 0 FF, 0 FR
Greenwood - 109 tackles, 1 sack, 1 INT, 2 FF, 3 FR

So there. Out of ALL the OLBs in the league, thats 2 per team on 32 teams, or 64 TOTAL, Greenwood ranked 10th in total tackles. Not including the 3-4 OLBs (who's stats are inflated bc of sacks) Greenwood was VERY CONSISTENT in terms of sacks, INTs, FF, and FRs. How in the HELL IS HE CUTTABLE? Our LB corp SUCKS except for Demeco. If we get rid of Greenwood, we LOSE all our CHEMISTRY and one of our only CONSISTENT players. We don't need cap room right now. we need a WINNING SEASON. Enough planning for the future. I want to win right now!

TexanPride05
03-30-2007, 11:49 AM
Yea i think we should keep in another year atleast, we dont want to be too thin unless we get a stud at linebacker in the draft

distant_texans_fan
04-13-2007, 10:01 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/team/roster.asp?sort_by=2

Barber is on the roster as a #51, the same as DaShon Polk. And no one has the #57. Or am I wrong?