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DocBar
03-24-2007, 07:32 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4657958.html

"This has been bittersweet for me," Rosenfels said. "The bitter part is that (trading for Schaub) ends my chance of competing for the starting position. The sweet part is that Matt is a heck of a quarterback, and we've got a chance to be better with him. Hopefully, he can help us become a contender."

That's about as professional as a man can be. I'd give him rep if I new his handle on here. I'm starting to get on the bandwagon a little bit and am very excited to see how this season plays out. If we can address 2 or 3 of our MAJOR holes in the draft, we just might be a dark horse in the wild card chase.

Tulip
03-24-2007, 07:38 PM
Great quote from Sage. He sounds like a great guy. I feel the same way about the situation he does. I wish he had his chance, but the Texans just upgraded the QB position in a big way.

Marcus
03-24-2007, 07:39 PM
Umm.... maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake right now, but what's 'comical' about it?

ledzeppelin229
03-24-2007, 07:42 PM
Sometimes its nice to see a real honest opinion from a player. I don't blame him for having some level of disappointment, and the fact is Sage is still only one play away from getting a legitimate shot.

Malloy
03-24-2007, 07:47 PM
Umm.... maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake right now, but what's 'comical' about it?

Comical = Chronicle ?

Marcus
03-24-2007, 07:49 PM
Never mind. I didn't get the sarcasm.

(Told ya I was slow on the uptake this evening):)

DocBar
03-24-2007, 07:53 PM
Umm.... maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake right now, but what's 'comical' about it?
LMAO...That's what I call the local newspaper. Sorry...I wasn't trying to say the article was funny.
:joker:

mexican_texan
03-24-2007, 07:54 PM
Sage Rosenfels is a great locker room prescence, he worked out with the team when he had a broken hand.

DocBar
03-24-2007, 08:00 PM
It has to suck for him. Professional atheletes are usually very competitive and, from childhood, used to being the best around at their chosen position.
I imagine all the talk of the player I won't mention anymore leaving HAD to make him think he would get a shot at starting, especially after Garcia signed and Plummer did whatever it is that he's done(did his retirement papers ever make it to the league office?). It would be hard to think that you're the 33rd best QB in the league after being a Pop Warner, High School and College stud.
Kinda sux for a lot us too. I'm sure we'd all like to see what he could do as a starter, but also want Schaub to come in and kick serious tail.

Marcus
03-24-2007, 08:05 PM
LMAO...That's what I call the local newspaper. Sorry...I wasn't trying to say the article was funny.
:joker:

Good name for it. Had me going there. :embarrass

Yeah, I really like Sage. I was onboard with the idea that if we got rid of Carr, go ahead and make him the starter, and don't get another quarterback. Just address all the other needs first, and then get one later. But that's when all I thought they trying to get were people like Plummer.

This deal they made for Schaub still blows my mind. I'm happy about it though. Just never expected it.

rickyb
03-24-2007, 09:12 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4657958.html

"This has been bittersweet for me," Rosenfels said. "The bitter part is that (trading for Schaub) ends my chance of competing for the starting position. The sweet part is that Matt is a heck of a quarterback, and we've got a chance to be better with him. Hopefully, he can help us become a contender."

That's about as professional as a man can be. I'd give him rep if I new his handle on here. I'm starting to get on the bandwagon a little bit and am very excited to see how this season plays out. If we can address 2 or 3 of our MAJOR holes in the draft, we just might be a dark horse in the wild card chase.


A true pro, Sage.

afcman
03-24-2007, 09:22 PM
To me this says something about Carr. With Carr, Sage felt he was gonna get a chance to get on the field.

And it says something about Sage as a person too.

QB75
03-24-2007, 09:35 PM
To me this says something about Carr. With Carr, Sage felt he was gonna get a chance to get on the field.

And it says something about Sage as a person too.

My guess is that Sage will get his chance sometime this season anyway.

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 09:38 PM
My guess is that Sage will get his chance sometime this season anyway.

Damn right ... when we get a big lead it'll be time for Sage to get some reps .

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 09:40 PM
Damn right ... when we get a big lead it'll be time for Sage to get some reps .



Lol.. I need to save some of these posts.

QB75
03-24-2007, 09:41 PM
Damn right ... when we get a big lead it'll be time for Sage to get some reps .

Sure. The Texans have the rest of the league running scared now.

Hervoyel
03-24-2007, 09:43 PM
My guess is there will be about a dozen posters with IP addresses from the Fresno area hitting the message board about 8 seconds after Matt Schaub throws his first incompletion.

I think the obsession will run another year or more depending on how things turn out for the two QB's involved, and I'm not talking about Sage. Short of injury Sage probably won't see the field unless it's a blowout (in either direction).

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 09:44 PM
I don't know what's going to happen but we'll be better .

Like it or not the Texan fans and players can move on .

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 09:45 PM
Sure. The Texans have the rest of the league running scared now.

So what message board are you going to join next ?

QB75
03-24-2007, 09:46 PM
So what message board are you going to join next ?

Staying here. You?

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 09:47 PM
Staying here. You?

Why would I leave ... I live here .

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 09:48 PM
:evilb:

Sure. The Texans have the rest of the league running scared now.

QB75
03-24-2007, 09:49 PM
Why would I leave ... I live here .

Exactly.

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 09:49 PM
I don't know what's going to happen but we'll be better .

Like it or not the Texan fans and players can move on .


The question is.... move on to what? Some here have us in the the SB.

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 09:51 PM
My guess is there will be about a dozen posters with IP addresses from the Fresno area hitting the message board about 8 seconds after Matt Schaub throws his first incompletion.

I think the obsession will run another year or more depending on how things turn out for the two QB's involved, and I'm not talking about Sage. Short of injury Sage probably won't see the field unless it's a blowout (in either direction).


I hope Matt doesn't get injured. I also hope the Texans don't do to him what they did to David. It's not fair to any player.

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 09:54 PM
The question is.... move on to what? Some here have us in the the SB.

A respectable football team .

A team thats got some spunk .

A team that come December we're in the playoff hunt .

A team that allows us to have a playoff party .

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 09:55 PM
I hope Matt doesn't get injured. I also hope the Texans don't do to him what they did to David. It's not fair to any player.

Well ... it's like this ... we'll no just how much to blame David after this year won't we .

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 09:58 PM
Well ... it's like this ... we'll no just how much to blame David after this year won't we .



Do you think Matt will be behind the same injured line that David was?

I sure hope not.

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 09:59 PM
A respectable football team .

A team thats got some spunk .

A team that come December we're in the playoff hunt .

A team that allows us to have a playoff party .



We shall see.

tsip
03-24-2007, 10:07 PM
Sure. The Texans have the rest of the league running scared now.

...yep, no more 'dink and dunkin?' Has he been signed,yet?

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 10:09 PM
...yep, no more 'dink and dunkin?' Has he been signed,yet?


You sure about that?

Hervoyel
03-24-2007, 10:09 PM
I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that there will be a group of "fans" who will be waiting to celebrate every single mis-step that Matt Schaub and the rest of the Texans make from this week forward. It's probably going to take at least two seasons for most of them to lose interest and move on (full time) to whatever team ends up signing their favorite player. They are "fans" but they're "Texans fans" in name only. Now that the fight is over and everything has come down the way it has they're already starting to turn on the team. We know who they all are. We know what their IP addresses are and we know what part of the country they're in. We know which ones use multiple identities to try and make it look like there are more of them who feel the way they do.

Despite all of that there's nothing to be done about it but wait until they lose interest and go away. Fortunately now the clock is running.

tsip
03-24-2007, 10:10 PM
Do you think Matt will be behind the same injured line that David was?

I sure hope not.

David's biggest problems were/are his mechanics and have been since college--wait till he starts playing with his new team, with the same results.

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 10:12 PM
David's biggest problems were/are his mechanics and have been since college--wait till he starts playing with his new team, with the same results.


I was talking about Matt, not David.

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 10:14 PM
I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that there will be a group of "fans" who will be waiting to celebrate every single mis-step that Matt Schaub and the rest of the Texans make from this week forward. It's probably going to take at least two seasons for most of them to lose interest and move on (full time) to whatever team ends up signing their favorite player. They are "fans" but they're "Texans fans" in name only. Now that the fight is over and everything has come down the way it has they're already starting to turn on the team. We know who they all are. We know what their IP addresses are and we know what part of the country they're in. We know which ones use multiple identities to try and make it look like there are more of them who feel the way they do.

Despite all of that there's nothing to be done about it but wait until they lose interest and go away. Fortunately now the clock is running.



I sure hope the clock is running.. on the haters, that is.

I really haven't seen anyone here who would "celebrate" any mis-teps by this organization. Lord knows there have been plenty and I haven't seen any celebrating as of yet.

Houston_Fanatic
03-24-2007, 10:25 PM
My guess is that Sage will get his chance sometime this season anyway.

What situation do you see that Sage will get his chance this season?

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 10:27 PM
What situation do you see that Sage will get his chance this season?

Impatient fans.

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 10:29 PM
I sure hope the clock is running.. on the haters, that is.

I really haven't seen anyone here who would "celebrate" any mis-teps by this organization. Lord knows there have been plenty and I haven't seen any as of yet.

I still don't think they're haters so to speak .

What we have is a group who have seen nothing really out of arguably the most important player on the team .

What we have seen is a lack of being a leader from this highly paid player .

How many years did Carr carpool with his Dad to practice while other QBswere putting in long days watching film .

It failed and it was'nt the haters fault ... he did'nt play well and this is'nt fun fair positive pro football .

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 10:35 PM
I still don't think they're haters so to speak .

What we have is a group who have seen nothing really out of arguably the most important player on the team .

What we have seen is a lack of being a leader from this highly paid player .

How many years did Carr carpool with his Dad to practice while other QBswere putting in long days watching film .

It failed and it was'nt the haters fault ... he did'nt play well and this is'nt fun fair positive pro football .



Palmer said Carr took film home to study and he would quizz him to see if he did study, and David answered right every time. Go look for the link yourself.

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 10:38 PM
Palmer said Carr took film home to study and he would quizz him to see if he did study, and David answered right every time. Go look for the link yourself.

Well you say what you want to but it's been brought up many times times .

Luck is oppurtunity and preparation ... David never had much luck .

Sounds funny ... did anyone else get to take film home or was it required to keep it at Reliant ?

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 11:00 PM
Well you say what you want to but it's been brought up many times times .

Luck is oppurtunity and preparation ... David never had much luck .

Sounds funny ... did anyone else get to take film home or was it required to keep it at Reliant ?


I didn't say it, Palmer did. He should know.

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 11:01 PM
I didn't say it, Palmer did. He should know.

Wait ... you guys say Palmer does'nt know what he's doing .

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 11:01 PM
Wait ... you guys say Palmer does'nt know what he's doing .



I never said that.

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 11:02 PM
I never said that.

You're grouped in with the lovers .

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 11:05 PM
You're grouped in with the lovers .


Thank you. You like my avatar?

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 11:06 PM
Thank you. You like my avatar?

You like mine ?

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 11:07 PM
You like mine ?



Yeah, I do. It's much better than Plummer. You didn't answer my question.

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 11:09 PM
Yeah, I do. It's much better than Plummer. You didn't answer my question.

Nope ... over exposure .

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 11:10 PM
Nope ... over exposure .


Lol... I don't think you have seen anything yet. :yahoo:

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 11:11 PM
Lol... I don't think you have seen anything yet. :yahoo:

After the Vince Young thing ... I don't see what could be bigger .

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 11:13 PM
After the Vince Young thing ... I don't see what could be bigger .



I'm sure you don't, but I do. :elmo:

mexican_texan
03-24-2007, 11:14 PM
Double entendres galore.

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 11:15 PM
I'm sure you don't, but I do. :elmo:

Well ... I have been around the block a time or two and I'm not sure you'll top the last year .

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 11:17 PM
Well ... I have been around the block a time or two and I'm not sure you'll top the last year .


Yes, I'm sure you've been around the block...maybe once too many times. :) I'm about there myself.

Can you see if you can figure out the new thread by "carrlover." I'd appreciate it.

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 11:17 PM
Yes, I'm sure you've ben around the block...maybe once too many times. :) I'm about there myself.

Can you see if you can figure out the new thread by "carrlover." I'd appreciate.

You can never go around the block enough .

NFLforher
03-24-2007, 11:18 PM
You can never go around the block enough .



Lol... I think you're right. I see the carrlover thread has been deleted. Good thing. See ya tomorrow. I can't wait for the draft.

DocBar
03-24-2007, 11:19 PM
I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that there will be a group of "fans" who will be waiting to celebrate every single mis-step that Matt Schaub and the rest of the Texans make from this week forward. It's probably going to take at least two seasons for most of them to lose interest and move on (full time) to whatever team ends up signing their favorite player. They are "fans" but they're "Texans fans" in name only. Now that the fight is over and everything has come down the way it has they're already starting to turn on the team. We know who they all are. We know what their IP addresses are and we know what part of the country they're in. We know which ones use multiple identities to try and make it look like there are more of them who feel the way they do.

Despite all of that there's nothing to be done about it but wait until they lose interest and go away. Fortunately now the clock is running.

Herv, I enjoy your posts 99.9% of the time, and several time you've argued a point much better than I ever could. I was one of the biggest critics of the Schaub trade, and am STILL not convinced he will "Baby Jesus" for the Texans. All that said, I have ALWAYS stopped short of rooting against him, once the trade was finalized, or EVER against the Texans. I take umbrage at the suggestoion that anyone who doesn't like the Schaub deal will wait in ambush for any miscue he has. I don't think I've EVER seen a Texan fan poster on here root against us(not counting since Carr was cut). They may have been against certain players or moves the team mde, but not against the organization as a whole. I think we might have paid too much for Schaub. Does that mean I pull against the Texans? NO. Does that mean I think we'll wander for forty years in the Wilderness? NO. Does that mean I want less
than stellar success for Schaub? NO. It means I want a draft pick back. It means I love Texans football and don't drink the Kool Aid every time the FO makes press release. There are mighty few "FANS" who fit your criteria. Most of us against the Schaub deal are against the price we paid and what we got for Carr. Right or wrong, we STILL root for the Texans.

Trap_Star
03-24-2007, 11:20 PM
Well ... I have been around the block a time or two and I'm not sure you'll top the last year .

Yes, I'm sure you've been around the block...maybe once too many times. :) I'm about there myself.

Can you see if you can figure out the new thread by "carrlover." I'd appreciate it.

You can never go around the block enough .

What are we buying around the block again?...

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 11:22 PM
What are we buying aroung the block again?...

Well ... usually you see a lot and if you want to venture out to whatever the vice of your choice ... it's there .

It's about exposure to the world young grasshopper .

DocBar
03-24-2007, 11:27 PM
Well ... usually you see a lot and if you want to venture out to whatever the vice of your choice ... it's there .

It's about exposure to the world young grasshopper .

And in your travels, make sure Thailand and Malaysia are on your block. WOW!!!!

Honoring Earl 34
03-24-2007, 11:31 PM
And in your travels, make sure Thailand and Malaysia are on your block. WOW!!!!

I have'nt gone that far around the block .

I watched the video about one night in Bankock ... no thanks ... now anyways .

thunderkyss
03-24-2007, 11:33 PM
Herv, I enjoy your posts 99.9% of the time, and several time you've argued a point much better than I ever could. I was one of the biggest critics of the Schaub trade, and am STILL not convinced he will "Baby Jesus" for the Texans. All that said, I have ALWAYS stopped short of rooting against him, once the trade was finalized, or EVER against the Texans. I take umbrage at the suggestoion that anyone who doesn't like the Schaub deal will wait in ambush for any miscue he has.

Doc, you're a Texan. You root for the Texans. You are not in the group that Herv is talking about. There are several "fans" that are still here, that we'd have thought would disappear as soon as David was released. You're not in that group.

The folks from that group, will most likely stay through this next season, & they will jump on Matt Schaub for every INT, every game under 250 passing yards, every sack, etc... etc... They are hoping Matt fails, so their Golden boy can look golden again.

I'm probably the biggest Ricky Williams fan you'll ever see, but I've never secretly hoped Duece McAllister would be busted for a heroine addiction.

that's what these Carr fans are like.


Not all Carr fans, but the ones we are talking about.

& I know what you're saying about not seeing that kind of attention in the past, but I'm with Herv on this one. It's coming.

DocBar
03-24-2007, 11:37 PM
Doc, you're a Texan. You root for the Texans. You are not in the group that Herv is talking about. There are several "fans" that are still here, that we'd have thought would disappear as soon as David was released. You're not in that group.

The folks from that group, will most likely stay through this next season, & they will jump on Matt Schaub for every INT, every game under 250 passing yards, every sack, etc... etc... They are hoping Matt fails, so their Golden boy can look golden again.

I'm probably the biggest Ricky Williams fan you'll ever see, but I've never secretly hoped Duece McAllister would be busted for a heroine addiction.

that's what these Carr fans are like.


Not all Carr fans, but the ones we are talking about.

& I know what you're saying about not seeing that kind of attention in the past, but I'm with Herv on this one. It's coming.I had too much tequila tonight. Or however that song goess.

Hervoyel
03-24-2007, 11:41 PM
Herv, I enjoy your posts 99.9% of the time, and several time you've argued a point much better than I ever could. I was one of the biggest critics of the Schaub trade, and am STILL not convinced he will "Baby Jesus" for the Texans. All that said, I have ALWAYS stopped short of rooting against him, once the trade was finalized, or EVER against the Texans. I take umbrage at the suggestoion that anyone who doesn't like the Schaub deal will wait in ambush for any miscue he has. I don't think I've EVER seen a Texan fan poster on here root against us(not counting since Carr was cut). They may have been against certain players or moves the team mde, but not against the organization as a whole. I think we might have paid too much for Schaub. Does that mean I pull against the Texans? NO. Does that mean I think we'll wander for forty years in the Wilderness? NO. Does that mean I want less
than stellar success for Schaub? NO. It means I want a draft pick back. It means I love Texans football and don't drink the Kool Aid every time the FO makes press release. There are mighty few "FANS" who fit your criteria. Most of us against the Schaub deal are against the price we paid and what we got for Carr. Right or wrong, we STILL root for the Texans.

1. What I wrote has nothing to do with being critical of the Schaub trade. There are many people who have questions or misgivings about the Schaub trade. I have no doubt that most of them want it to work "as planned" and will close ranks behind the team once things begin to get busy on the practice field. In short "you aren't the droids I'm looking for".

2. If you have never seen a Texans fan in here rooting against the Texans then I'm going to suggest that you open your eyes a bit wider. It's happened fairly often and it's been discussed during the final weeks of the last three or four seasons. Fans of bad teams find themselves at the end of meaningless seasons thinking more of draft position than the W/L record. We've all felt that awkward emotion at one time or another. That's nothing though compared to what these people are going to do once they feel like they've seen evidence that their hero was unjustly sent packing.

3. It's not hard to find the fans who fit my criteria. You are correct that there are not a lot of them but they make a lot of noise and stir up far more trouble than they are worth.

But again let me point out that the fans you're talking about and the ones I'm talking about aren't the same group of people (for the most part). Some of the ones I'm talking about will hide in your group and pretend they're really interested in the Texans but you'll see them show their true colors the moment things don't go as planned. You'll know them the moment they start posting after an ugly loss or a bad game from Schaub.

DocBar
03-24-2007, 11:51 PM
1. What I wrote has nothing to do with being critical of the Schaub trade. There are many people who have questions or misgivings about the Schaub trade. I have no doubt that most of them want it to work "as planned" and will close ranks behind the team once things begin to get busy on the practice field. In short "you aren't the droids I'm looking for".

2. If you have never seen a Texans fan in here rooting against the Texans then I'm going to suggest that you open your eyes a bit wider. It's happened fairly often and it's been discussed during the final weeks of the last three or four seasons. Fans of bad teams find themselves at the end of meaningless seasons thinking more of draft position than the W/L record. We've all felt that awkward emotion at one time or another. That's nothing though compared to what these people are going to do once they feel like they've seen evidence that their hero was unjustly sent packing.

3. It's not hard to find the fans who fit my criteria. You are correct that there are not a lot of them but they make a lot of noise and stir up far more trouble than they are worth.

But again let me point out that the fans you're talking about and the ones I'm talking about aren't the same group of people (for the most part). Some of the ones I'm talking about will hide in your group and pretend they're really interested in the Texans but you'll see them show their true colors the moment things don't go as planned. You'll know them the moment they start posting after an ugly loss or a bad game from Schaub. There you go again, argueing points better than I could. I HATE it when you quote me and do that!!!

tsip
03-25-2007, 03:12 AM
Lol... I don't think you have seen anything yet. :yahoo:

JMO, but I think David is in for a rude awakening when/if another team signs him. If you think the Texans experience was bad for David...well,you better get ready. Sooner than later, Carr's 'starting'days are over...maybe his career. Fortunately,he's already made 'big bucks' so he can stay home with the family.:yahoo:

Maddict5
03-25-2007, 06:12 AM
My guess is that Sage will get his chance sometime this season anyway.


well thats just pathetic... and hypocritical- you're 1 of the guys that was giving out about people bashing DC- but its ok for you to knock our new qb who hasnt taken a single snap for us...

say what you want about the DC haters giving him excess abuse but at least they gave him a chance at the beginning to see what he could or couldnt do..they didnt want him to fail from the start

i hate some of the posters on here...so many hidden agenda's

Malloy
03-25-2007, 06:28 AM
I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that there will be a group of "fans" who will be waiting to celebrate every single mis-step that Matt Schaub and the rest of the Texans make from this week forward. It's probably going to take at least two seasons for most of them to lose interest and move on (full time) to whatever team ends up signing their favorite player. They are "fans" but they're "Texans fans" in name only. Now that the fight is over and everything has come down the way it has they're already starting to turn on the team. We know who they all are. We know what their IP addresses are and we know what part of the country they're in. We know which ones use multiple identities to try and make it look like there are more of them who feel the way they do.

Despite all of that there's nothing to be done about it but wait until they lose interest and go away. Fortunately now the clock is running.


Curious as to the multiple user/ip's :)

Gamehorn25
03-25-2007, 08:06 AM
Is it just me (it has been known to be) or have people been attacking each other now more than before the Schaub deal was done? I am glad I don't have any enemies that I know of on these boards. I guess I will get one soon.

HJam72
03-25-2007, 08:10 AM
Is it just me (it has been known to be) or have people been attacking each other now more than before the Schaub deal was done? I am glad I don't have any enemies that I know of on these boards. I guess I will get one soon.

You're missing out on all the fun. :wild:

NFLforher
03-25-2007, 11:23 AM
The folks from that group, will most likely stay through this next season, & they will jump on Matt Schaub for every INT, every game under 250 passing yards, every sack, etc... etc... They are hoping Matt fails, so their Golden boy can look golden again.



Why would anyone hope Matt fails? If Matt fails, so does the team. :lightbulb:


David will shine on his own..or not. Matt has nothing to do with that.

NFLforher
03-25-2007, 11:27 AM
well thats just pathetic... and hypocritical- you're 1 of the guys that was giving out about people bashing DC- but its ok for you to knock our new qb who hasnt taken a single snap for us...

say what you want about the DC haters giving him excess abuse but at least they gave him a chance at the beginning to see what he could or couldnt do..they didnt want him to fail from the start

i hate some of the posters on here...so many hidden agenda's


Get real. He's not bashing anyone.

Maddict5
03-25-2007, 11:35 AM
Get real. He's not bashing anyone.

yeah sure he isnt:superman:

Heath Shuler
03-25-2007, 11:36 AM
Curious as to the multiple user/ip's :)

Me too.

thunderkyss
03-25-2007, 11:49 AM
Why would anyone hope Matt fails? If Matt fails, so does the team. :lightbulb:


David will shine on his own..or not. Matt has nothing to do with that.

True. But the point is that some of the fans here, are not Texans fans, but David Carr fans. They'll root for the Texans as long as David is the starting QB. As soon as the Texans do something like chose another QB in lieu of David, they'll turn on the Texans.

They don't care about the Texans, never did. All they care about, is David Carr.

Just like many fans revel in the fact that Sharper & Coleman are no longer employed by NFL teams, they point to them as proof of the Texans ability to spot bad players who were not contributing to the Texans success.

People point to Gaffney's failure to earn a spot with the Eagles, or Billy Miller's inability to stay with a team for more than 2 years as proof that they couldn't have helped this team even if we had someone other than David reading progressions, and dissecting defenses.

They're waiting for Schaub to fall on his face. They want the Texans to fail if David is not here, so they can say, "see David was not the only problem"

Wolf
03-25-2007, 11:57 AM
I will say this, I was a Carr fan but I guarantee you that I have no plans (got to put a loophole in :tease:) to come on the Bull Pen and say "I told you so" if Schaub has a bad game and Carr (whereever he goes) happen to start and has a good game.

I wish Carr the best and will check every now and then on how he is doing, but he (in my boat) is about the same as others that came and left the Texans (Glenn,Coleman,Sharper,Morency) in that I was happy for them if they did good but nothing I needed psychotherapist about being they aren't with the Texans.


100 percent Texan right here.

If Schaub falls on his face, I will not talk about How David could have done better, I will talk about Sage needs to step it up in practice and earn more playing time and beat out Schaub

uhcougar08
03-25-2007, 12:02 PM
Sure. The Texans have the rest of the league running scared now.

Why do you have an avatar of our old QB, DC? We have a new one now.

NFLforher
03-25-2007, 05:01 PM
True. But the point is that some of the fans here, are not Texans fans, but David Carr fans. They'll root for the Texans as long as David is the starting QB. As soon as the Texans do something like chose another QB in lieu of David, they'll turn on the Texans.

They don't care about the Texans, never did. All they care about, is David Carr.

Just like many fans revel in the fact that Sharper & Coleman are no longer employed by NFL teams, they point to them as proof of the Texans ability to spot bad players who were not contributing to the Texans success.

People point to Gaffney's failure to earn a spot with the Eagles, or Billy Miller's inability to stay with a team for more than 2 years as proof that they couldn't have helped this team even if we had someone other than David reading progressions, and dissecting defenses.

They're waiting for Schaub to fall on his face. They want the Texans to fail if David is not here, so they can say, "see David was not the only problem"


I know David was not the only problem and I don't want Matt to fall on his face either.

I expect a learning curve too, hopefully not a sharp one.

I want David to get a chance somewhere else to shine and Matt can show what he can give the Texans.

SamuraiSword
03-25-2007, 11:29 PM
I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that there will be a group of "fans" who will be waiting to celebrate every single mis-step that Matt Schaub and the rest of the Texans make from this week forward. It's probably going to take at least two seasons for most of them to lose interest and move on (full time) to whatever team ends up signing their favorite player. They are "fans" but they're "Texans fans" in name only. Now that the fight is over and everything has come down the way it has they're already starting to turn on the team. We know who they all are. We know what their IP addresses are and we know what part of the country they're in. We know which ones use multiple identities to try and make it look like there are more of them who feel the way they do.

Despite all of that there's nothing to be done about it but wait until they lose interest and go away. Fortunately now the clock is running.

IS Herv trying to say something about some fans around here. :poker:

petedy
03-25-2007, 11:58 PM
1. What I wrote has nothing to do with being critical of the Schaub trade. There are many people who have questions or misgivings about the Schaub trade. I have no doubt that most of them want it to work "as planned" and will close ranks behind the team once things begin to get busy on the practice field. In short "you aren't the droids I'm looking for".

2. If you have never seen a Texans fan in here rooting against the Texans then I'm going to suggest that you open your eyes a bit wider. It's happened fairly often and it's been discussed during the final weeks of the last three or four seasons. Fans of bad teams find themselves at the end of meaningless seasons thinking more of draft position than the W/L record. We've all felt that awkward emotion at one time or another. That's nothing though compared to what these people are going to do once they feel like they've seen evidence that their hero was unjustly sent packing.

3. It's not hard to find the fans who fit my criteria. You are correct that there are not a lot of them but they make a lot of noise and stir up far more trouble than they are worth.

But again let me point out that the fans you're talking about and the ones I'm talking about aren't the same group of people (for the most part). Some of the ones I'm talking about will hide in your group and pretend they're really interested in the Texans but you'll see them show their true colors the moment things don't go as planned. You'll know them the moment they start posting after an ugly loss or a bad game from Schaub.

Yes,I'm a David Carr fan and will continue to be but hate the Texans I don't think so. I don't wish them harm but they failed David as much as he failed them.I don't care which QB is running the team they have a lot of holes to fill that was neglected for five years.Schaub isn't going to be successful until those things are fixed like the o-line for example. The Texans still need a quality runningback and a number 2 reciever.It is still going to take time and patience to succeed.So,if Schaub fails please don't rip his head off like you all have done to David.Be patient with understanding that everything takes time to be a winner.This franchise is now only six years old and there will be a lot of growing pains along the way.So,support them be an encourager and not a discourager.Now that I have said enough,it is time to say goodbye and may God's blessings come to all of you.

jerek
03-26-2007, 09:28 AM
My guess is there will be about a dozen posters with IP addresses from the Fresno area hitting the message board about 8 seconds after Matt Schaub throws his first incompletion.

I think the obsession will run another year or more depending on how things turn out for the two QB's involved, and I'm not talking about Sage. Short of injury Sage probably won't see the field unless it's a blowout (in either direction).

Like the "dozen posters" count from Austin/Madison HS wasn't camping out here all season. :)

ROCKY
03-26-2007, 10:33 AM
I really haven't seen anyone here who would "celebrate" any mis-teps by this organization. Lord knows there have been plenty and I haven't seen any celebrating as of yet.


That's pretty funny, Between the VY traitors, Carr haters, Carr lovers, and HEAVY troll content....I'd say half this board seems to have a dislike, if not hate for my Texans. Every post, no matter what it's about will have several "the FO has no idea what theyre doing, this team is going nowhere, we are a laughingstock" responses.

And now that group will focus in letting us know OVER AND OVER AGAIN, that Matt Schaub is unproven, Ahman Green is old, and Mario Williams is a bust. Theyll go away when we win, and they will flood the board with childish BS when we lose. So I am just REALLY looking forward to my Texans shuttin some mouths come Sept.

:wild:

Specnatz
03-26-2007, 10:47 AM
Palmer said Carr took film home to study and he would quizz him to see if he did study, and David answered right every time. Go look for the link yourself.

Yeah I will take what Palmer says with a truck load of salt because he has worked with some all-time great QBs. He previously worked with Drew
Bledsoe in New England, Tim Couch in Cleveland and David Carr in
Houston.

Heck I would not be surprised if he did not also work with Akili Smith.

NFLforher
03-26-2007, 02:18 PM
Yeah I will take what Palmer says with a truck load of salt because he has worked with some all-time great QBs. He previously worked with Drew
Bledsoe in New England, Tim Couch in Cleveland and David Carr in
Houston.

Heck I would not be surprised if he did not also work with Akili Smith.


READ and comprehend this time. I wasn't discussing Palmer's skills.

kastofsna
03-26-2007, 02:20 PM
the immortal sage rosenfels has no shot at starting?? why not?? he's so amazing.

NFLforher
03-26-2007, 02:21 PM
That's pretty funny, Between the VY traitors, Carr haters, Carr lovers, and HEAVY troll content....I'd say half this board seems to have a dislike, if not hate for my Texans. Every post, no matter what it's about will have several "the FO has no idea what theyre doing, this team is going nowhere, we are a laughingstock" responses.

And now that group will focus in letting us know OVER AND OVER AGAIN, that Matt Schaub is unproven, Ahman Green is old, and Mario Williams is a bust. Theyll go away when we win, and they will flood the board with childish BS when we lose. So I am just REALLY looking forward to my Texans shuttin some mouths come Sept.

:wild:


Matt is unproven. However, I expect him to do well. Mario is far from a bust. Ahman Green, I'll wait and see.


Here's to a better season! texanpride