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staind755
03-24-2007, 02:44 PM
If Adrian Peterson happens to be at 10 when the Texans are on the clock. What would you want to see the Texans do. As well, what would be the minumum you would want to see the Texans receive to move spots?

#1. I would personally take Peterson at 10 even though we have Green and Dayne. Tripple Threat, and you know one of the two will be hurting at different times of the season, plus we have the opportunity to get the 2nd best player in the draft at #10.

#2. I do not know much about the whole point system etc. I just know there is a chart that value certain spots in the draft. IF the Texans are on the clock with Peterson still on the board, I think at minimum the Texans must swap 1st rd. picks, anywhere from 11-20, then receive the teams 2nd rd. pick for this year, plus their first next year at minimum. Does that sound like too much, or too little?

I think the Texans are sitting in a fairly good position. I would love taking Peterson 10 overall, but at the same time I wouldn't mind receiving picks if the price is right.

I'd like to know everyone elese opionion.

There has been little talk about Peterson with all the Texans Quartback talk, I hope we don't hear much about him until draft day. May the Bills and Packers think were not taking him. Or REALLY make them think we are and they fall in love and hand us picks left and right for a franchise running back.

Gosh more than a month until the draft. I can't take it any longer, but hey, Astros opening day is 9 days away. I bet all the people who didn't renew their season tickets are wishing they did. Looks like the will be paying a premium to jump back on the bandwagon.

I'm in it for the longhall. It will make it that much more sweeter!!! Go Texans.

Tulip
03-24-2007, 02:47 PM
If I were the Texans, I'd be using Peterson's availablity to try to get one of my 2nd round picks back.

281
03-24-2007, 02:52 PM
If I were the Texans, I'd be using Peterson's availablity to try to get one of my 2nd round picks back.

i'd rather take peterson himself since i think he's going to be an elite back in this league long after ahman green's tenure (one to two years), but if we can get a decent draft pick and a trade down in the first i won't be TOO mad... passing on him and potential draft picks, however, would be totally stupid on our part.

Marcus
03-24-2007, 02:53 PM
If Peterson is there at 10 along with Levi Brown . . . I'd take Levi Brown.

If Levi Brown is gone by then, then explore trade down offers if there are any.

Janus3
03-24-2007, 02:54 PM
if texans are there i'd no doubt make the trade down, ideally to GB. you could easily get their 2nd rounder and maybe a 5th this year or a 3rd next year. i really doubt the texans get gb 2nd this year and next or get the 2nd and 3rd this year. personally, i think trading is a no brainer. i love AP, but the texans don't need him as much as they need other players.

disaacks3
03-24-2007, 03:11 PM
(Walgreens...aka "Perfect" Mode) If AP is there at 10, I'd entertain really SPECTACULAR trade offers for about 5 minutes and then pick him up if there aren't any offered. Ahman Green is a short-term solution, AP could be the ANSWER for the next 5-8.

(Reality Mode) Unless AP seriously injures himself prior to the draft, he won't make it halfway down to #10.

htownfoozball
03-24-2007, 03:23 PM
if peterson and brown are there, take peterson. you could keep him or trade down and still take brown and add a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder. peterson himself is worth more than the actual draft position.

TheRealJoker
03-24-2007, 03:32 PM
if peterson and brown are there, take peterson. you could keep him or trade down and still take brown and add a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder. peterson himself is worth more than the actual draft position.

I disagree. If AD falls to 10 then he's not worth more than any other top prospect that fell to 10. Did the Cardinals get any outstanding offers when Leinart fell to 10? No, because if 9 teams pass on a guy you aren't gonna get a king's ransom for him no matter how highly the fans think of him.

thunderkyss
03-24-2007, 03:33 PM
I did not believe AD would be there at 8. I definitely don't believe he'll be there at 10. We signed Ahman, then Dayne, I don't believe the Texans did either.

But if he were, I still don't believe anyone would trade up to get him. The best running backs in '06 were picked at 21(Maroney), 27(DeAngelo), 30(Addai), & 60(MJD)...

Marshawn Lynch & Michael Bush are most likely targeted in that 15-20 range, then Kenny Irons(who I think will be very successful in the NFL) & Antonio Pittman are still on the board.

I don't see anyone moving up for a running back.

kastofsna
03-24-2007, 03:43 PM
why in god's holy name would you NOT take peterson if he is somehow there at 10?

Stros5Texans80
03-24-2007, 03:50 PM
I did not believe AD would be there at 8. I definitely don't believe he'll be there at 10. We signed Ahman, then Dayne, I don't believe the Texans did either.

But if he were, I still don't believe anyone would trade up to get him. The best running backs in '06 were picked at 21(Maroney), 27(DeAngelo), 30(Addai), & 60(MJD)...

Marshawn Lynch & Michael Bush are most likely targeted in that 15-20 range, then Kenny Irons(who I think will be very successful in the NFL) & Antonio Pittman are still on the board.

I don't see anyone moving up for a running back.

I think personally because of this reason, that you'll see some of the bigger Running Backs be taken early. Especially with AP's talent. As for me, we HAVE to take Peterson. :wild:

281
03-24-2007, 04:07 PM
why in god's holy name would you NOT take peterson if he is somehow there at 10?

the same thought i had. you're getting maybe the best player in the draft behind calvin johnson at NUMBER 10... why not? :confused:

thunderkyss
03-24-2007, 04:15 PM
why in god's holy name would you NOT take peterson if he is somehow there at 10?

So you're saying if he's there at 9, you hope that Miami is smart enough to take him??

thunderkyss
03-24-2007, 04:16 PM
I think personally because of this reason, that you'll see some of the bigger Running Backs be taken early. Especially with AP's talent. As for me, we HAVE to take Peterson. :wild:

Really good point. Those guys may very well have helped this class, by reminding teams how much a running back can impact your offense in year one.

kastofsna
03-24-2007, 04:33 PM
So you're saying if he's there at 9, you hope that Miami is smart enough to take him??
absolutely. i'd love to have peterson.

Janus3
03-24-2007, 04:40 PM
i really don't see why you guys are so hell bent on taking AP if he's there at 10. the texans rush offense wasn't great but by no means horrendous and towards the end of the season actually picked up. they finished like 21st. they signed ahman green who will help (though short term) i'd much rather trade the pick to a team who would give an arm and a leg for AP and get some picks back. many good rb's come from lateer rounds, look where jones drew went last year. i'd much rather the texans address key need areas with solid players than draft marquee names that aren't necessarily needed. with a 2nd round pick from the trade the texans might be able to get kenny irons or a hunt/booker later on. i think that would go along way in helping teh texans overall than just taking a marquee name and not addressing what's been hurting teh texans for awhile.

kastofsna
03-24-2007, 04:41 PM
i really don't see why you guys are so hell bent on taking AP if he's there at 10.
because he'd be the best player in the history of your franchise.

Janus3
03-24-2007, 04:43 PM
because he'd be the best player in the history of your franchise.

not with the current o line he wouldn't be.

kastofsna
03-24-2007, 04:46 PM
not with the current o line he wouldn't be.
well luckily you wouldn't be drafting for "now" you'd be drafting him for "now...and 10 more years as well." unless you don't plan on ever fixing the line.

GoTexans
03-24-2007, 04:59 PM
Take someone else who will actually start and improve the team not another Domanick Williams.

ledzeppelin229
03-24-2007, 05:04 PM
not with the current o line he wouldn't be.

Can people get it through their skulls that pass blocking and run blocking are two different things. If Domanick Davis and Ron Dayne can run effectively behind our "incompetent at life" OL then I'm pretty sure Adrian Peterson could.

As for the "best RBs from last year" being taken later on, they also went to established teams with cohesive lines and competent passing attacks to keep things balanced. (Or in Addai's case, severely unbalanced in that teams were worrying about the pass and making concessions to the Colts running attack.)

You take Peterson because he would clearly be the BPA and Ahman Green/Ron Dayne are not the future. Yes a DB would be preferable but if you have Peterson ranked light years ahead you don't pass him up.

Probably a moot point though since Peterson never makes it to 10.

keyfro
03-24-2007, 05:10 PM
if peterson is there at the 10th spot i have to take him...our starter and our main back up are both old for a NFL RB...and he has way too much talent to pass on...it's very unlikely we won't have to see this scenario thankfully...because if he was there and we passed on him can you imagine the reaction the fans would have

the only way i don't take him is if a team offers us a ricky williams like deal where we get their entire draft just about...i could like with getting like 4 extra picks and 2 or 3 of those being 1st day picks

Janus3
03-24-2007, 05:11 PM
barring a trade up, peterson could very easily make it to 10. it all depends on what cleveland does.

also, to counter your point, if davis and dayne can run through the line why take a RB so early. running game is not the main concern. why sign green to such a huge contract if you don't plan to use him. i hate when people use the "bpa" argument. why would you take the best layer available and not address positons of need. like i said, if peterson is there, i'm certain the texans could get a huge deal in picks from the likes of buffalo/gb and still take be able to draft a quality player at a need postion. i really doubt peterson would be so much better alone than green/dayne/lundy/rb taken from later rounds.

kastofsna
03-24-2007, 05:13 PM
there's no way peterson makes it to #10. it really is a pipe dream. if cleveland doesn't want him, then arizona, minnesota, atlanta certainly, or even miami would take him.

Janus3
03-24-2007, 05:17 PM
there's no way peterson makes it to #10. it really is a pipe dream. if cleveland doesn't want him, then arizona, minnesota, atlanta certainly, or even miami would take him.

i just don't see why any of those teams would take him when they're already established at rb. except maybe atlanta, but they have a great prospect in norwood.

kastofsna
03-24-2007, 05:23 PM
two-back systems are becoming huge.

autch14
03-24-2007, 05:36 PM
"I think at minimum the Texans must swap 1st rd. picks, anywhere from 11-20, then receive the teams 2nd rd. pick for this year, plus their first next year at minimum. Does that sound like too much, or too little? "

That sounds like way too much. I don't know of any team that would give us thier 1st, 2nd, and 1st of next year to switch places with us.

keyfro
03-24-2007, 06:10 PM
well just for argument sake let's say he's there at the 10th spot...green bay calls and they seriously want him...they want to trade with us to make sure san fran doesn't take him due to gore's injured history and you know buffalo will take him...they also know that we want him...because even with green/dayne that we have a long term answer at RB...no...so we hardball them

i think the last time i looked at it the trade value chart they would have to give up their 1st, 2nd, and probably something like a 4th next year to equal our pick...but they really want him and we're playing hardball...at what point as fans are we ok with the trade to give up AD?

their 1st, 2nd, 3rd rounders this year and a 4th next year...or more?

i think we try to induce a bidding war and take the best grouping of picks...maybe a team will include a player

kastofsna
03-24-2007, 06:44 PM
way too many picks to move from 16 to 10. in fact, all it'd really take is their 1st and 2nd, and you'd have to throw back a 4th to even out the deal thru the trade chart.

JAXwithanX
03-24-2007, 06:49 PM
This is ridiculous. Peterson at 10.....why even entertain this **** for arguments' sake. I know it is the offseason but I'd rather find a way to still argue about Carr and where he will go to and if he will fool them for 5 years....

4Texans
03-24-2007, 06:53 PM
why in god's holy name would you NOT take peterson if he is somehow there at 10?

I'm with kastofsna on this one. If AP is there at 10, then we have to take him. We need a true RB that is going to make teams take notice of a running game. And with Green, Dayne, and AP teams will take notice. Plus AP is for the future to.

Hervoyel
03-24-2007, 07:04 PM
If I were the Texans, I'd be using Peterson's availablity to try to get one of my 2nd round picks back.


Normally I'd never say that. I'm usually a "stand pat and make your picks" kind of draft-thinker. From time to time I advocate trading up to get somebody (and usually I am proven wrong like I was back in my "We must trade up to get Robert Gallery days).

This time I'd really like to have my 2 back. I think the first round is deep enough and our GM is un-Casserly enough to pick a player later and get us a solid starter. I love Adrian Peterson and I would not complain if we picked him at 10. I wouldn't complain about a trade down like I did when we passed on Derrick Johnson however. This time it makes sense to me.

Hervoyel
03-24-2007, 07:05 PM
way too many picks to move from 16 to 10. in fact, all it'd really take is their 1st and 2nd, and you'd have to throw back a 4th to even out the deal thru the trade chart.

Nobody says the trade chart has to be even. I bet you coulld get that done without throwing back the 4.

Sco-tai
03-24-2007, 07:34 PM
IF Adrian Peterson is there, I would absolutely take him. I seriously doubt he will be there...but you never know. Who on earth thought Cutler & Leinart would have dropped as they did last year.

You can never tell...I guess. But I CERTAINLY wouldn't count on AP being there at 10.

At this point...I feel really good about anything Rick Smith & Kubes wanna do. Stay put and get the Best Player Available (besides QB)....or trade back a bit and get extra picks (perhaps a later 1st and a 2008 2nd to replace next year's we gave up for Schaub...and more, depending on how far we drop back).

I'm actually getting quite excited thanks to our Front Office (wow...what a change).

Cheers! :ski:

kastofsna
03-24-2007, 07:36 PM
Nobody says the trade chart has to be even. I bet you coulld get that done without throwing back the 4.
regardless, that's still not nearly as uneven as the offer by keyfro.

sgntxnfn
03-25-2007, 12:16 AM
Now I've never considered this until today and I haven't discussed it with anybody,but I would be interested in their second round pick next year, rather than this year and I'll tell you why:

-We all know that Green and Dayne are not franchise backs of the future. So if we pass on a franchise back this year (which I have no problem with), I would like to see us get one next year, when:

-McFadden, Slayton, Hart, and others could be available, and having the second round pick next year rather than this year allows us to either:
A) Get one of them should they fall to round or
B) Use the second rounder as amo to trade up to get one of them should that be necessary.

Take my idea for what it's worth. I'm not saying pass on him, but if we were to trade down, that would be my course of action.

threetoedpete
03-25-2007, 12:41 AM
If Peterson is there at 10 along with Levi Brown . . . I'd take Levi Brown.

If Levi Brown is gone by then, then explore trade down offers if there are any.

Thank you, and agreed. give the new guy a chance at some early sucess in the process please. Only thing that would change my mind on this
IF someone offered the farm for a move up. By farm I'm saying a two this year and ammo for '08. I.E. a fricken lot.

threetoedpete
03-25-2007, 12:50 AM
way too many picks to move from 16 to 10. in fact, all it'd really take is their 1st and 2nd, and you'd have to throw back a 4th to even out the deal thru the trade chart.

Agreed and I really luv ya Keyfro, but there's no way. I'd be happy with a pair of threes at this point. I think this is basically the same deal as we had last year. Finding a trade partner is going to be very hard. I just don't see the NFL rating running backs as high as we do on this board. I could see some one low falling in love with Adam Carikers or Ombi's tallets and flexiblity in a three four. I don't think Laron and All day will generate the type of interest that you're projecting though. Running back...good running backs are a dime a dozen and noone wants to over pay for them. In the draft...Get the QB, Defend the pass of the QB, protect the QB. That's it. RB and FS isn't on that list. They aren't premium players.

Ole Miss Texan
03-25-2007, 01:26 AM
Now I've never considered this until today and I haven't discussed it with anybody,but I would be interested in their second round pick next year, rather than this year and I'll tell you why:
-We all know that Green and Dayne are not franchise backs of the future. So if we pass on a franchise back this year (which I have no problem with), I would like to see us get one next year, when:
-McFadden, Slayton, Hart, and others could be available, and I want enough amo should it come to a situation where we need to trade up to get one these guys.

Take my idea for what it's worth.

LOL, i like your picture sgnt! i was scrolling down and saw it and then read your post. i was thinking man! i dont remember writing this at all..and it stumped me becuase it's exactly something i would write.

good post lol..rep your way.

i would love peterson here, but for our team and the current situation now i'd prefer to get a 2nd rounder or more and address the more pressing needs on our team. next year i really like the RB's and LT's in the 1st rd. and also phillips the FS from Miami and Antoine Cason CB depending on what positions we draft this year.

Janus3
03-25-2007, 01:28 AM
well just for argument sake let's say he's there at the 10th spot...green bay calls and they seriously want him...they want to trade with us to make sure san fran doesn't take him due to gore's injured history and you know buffalo will take him...they also know that we want him...because even with green/dayne that we have a long term answer at RB...no...so we hardball them

i think the last time i looked at it the trade value chart they would have to give up their 1st, 2nd, and probably something like a 4th next year to equal our pick...but they really want him and we're playing hardball...at what point as fans are we ok with the trade to give up AD?

their 1st, 2nd, 3rd rounders this year and a 4th next year...or more?

i think we try to induce a bidding war and take the best grouping of picks...maybe a team will include a player


i'm ok with that as is. the texans NEED that 2nd round pick this year. i'd much rather have irons/nelson as opposed to peterson alone.

sgntxnfn
03-25-2007, 03:07 AM
LOL, i like your picture sgnt! .
Haha. I guess I'll get my own avatar now.

Hottoddie
03-25-2007, 03:20 AM
I posted this in another thread in response to someone suggesting we trade for NE's two #1 picks, but it seems to be more appropriate for this thread.

I doubt NE would make that deal. On the other hand, since they're a playoff team & have most of the pieces in place, we might stand a better chance of getting the Jets to trade their 1st & two 2nd round picks, if AP is still on the board.

#10 = 1300 pts

#25 = 720 pts
#59 = 310 pts
#63 = 276 pts
Total = 1306 pts

How'd you like to trade down & pick up two 2nd round picks this year? At this point, I'd do that deal.

At 25, you could pick up a starting OL like Blaylock, Staley, Sears, Kalil, or Grubbs. Or, you could pick up one of the LB's, like Timmons, Posluszny, or Beason. And, of course, there should be several WR's, Michael Bush, second tier CB's, & safeties (Griffin/Meriweather) available, as well.

dbspi
03-25-2007, 04:46 AM
I just can't imagine Texans passing AD at #10 if he some how is available. For all the good things this management has done in regards to personnel decision this off season. I just can't see them passing them up.

Offensively we will be set for next decade with AJ, AD, and Schaub.

keyfro
03-25-2007, 09:23 AM
hey i know the chart would be way uneven...but it gave us something to think about...remember the ricky williams draft day trade was completely uneven...new orleans gave up the entire draft to move up and it wasn't needed via the trade chart

just saying when a certain team falls in love with a player sometimes common sense is thrown out the window...and with a team like green bay who with farve being back for this year maybe next at the most a guy like peterson gives them the best chance to win now...and they are reportedly looking at every way possible to move up to get him...if he's not available after the cleveland pick (which is where i see him going) then they'll be trading up for lynch...just a mater of how much they're going to spend now

whiskeyrbl
03-25-2007, 09:37 AM
I don't understand stand how people can think that ONE player in the draft makes or breaks the team. I think Irons from Auburn can be an effective back for us. Get the BPA for one of our most glaring problems. OT, CB, FS, OLB, DT. RB is not a position that we are desperate in. Now AD maybe great, so was Reggie, So was Earl, so was Emmitt. My point is next year there will be another " GREAT BACK " coming out. With a quartet of Green, Dayne, Taylor and Lundy I think we will survive this year. It would be nice to see AD run for 175 yards and 2 TD's...... Till you look at the scoreboard and the score is 35- 17 INDY.

kastofsna
03-25-2007, 09:50 AM
there will be another great back coming out next year. doesn't have anything to do with peterson. if he's there at 10, the value is ridiculous, and you have to take him to make your franchise both A) not look insane and B) gain ground in the division.

whiskeyrbl
03-25-2007, 09:57 AM
there will be another great back coming out next year. doesn't have anything to do with peterson. if he's there at 10, the value is ridiculous, and you have to take him to make your franchise both A) not look insane and B) gain ground in the division.

No I think it does. Especially if your picking the guy because he is there. We have a serviceable RB quartet. And have more glaring needs to round this team into a winner. If he is such an incredible value at that spot then we ought to have offers to move down and recieve additional picks. Thats the route I would take if that is how it breaks down. I mean really you draft AD and neglect needs, he is the next Carr on this team.

Wolf
03-25-2007, 05:27 PM
Can people get it through their skulls that pass blocking and run blocking are two different things. If Domanick Davis and Ron Dayne can run effectively behind our "incompetent at life" OL then I'm pretty sure Adrian Peterson could.

As for the "best RBs from last year" being taken later on, they also went to established teams with cohesive lines and competent passing attacks to keep things balanced. (Or in Addai's case, severely unbalanced in that teams were worrying about the pass and making concessions to the Colts running attack.)

You take Peterson because he would clearly be the BPA and Ahman Green/Ron Dayne are not the future. Yes a DB would be preferable but if you have Peterson ranked light years ahead you don't pass him up.

Probably a moot point though since Peterson never makes it to 10.


I'd rep you again but cant...Exactly!! Peterson will not be there but if he is... you take him...Why ?

1)Best player on board and we need an impact Rb (after Dayne and Green are gone). I don't expect the Texans to pick very high next season I'd be suprised if they would be in a position to take someone talented like Peterson Also we have a long way to go in the draft after 1st round and next season we won't have a 2 either so we better get the best bang for our buck at 10(Peterson) than trade down and who knows who is left for us to pick.

But we won't have to worry about Peterson, he won't be there.

Wolf
03-25-2007, 05:37 PM
on a joking note, we would put ESPiN out of subject material

If Matt turned out good and we drafted Peterson

What would they talk about? They lose leverage against the Texans on a certain QB from UT and a certain RB from USC

Here's to Mario getting healthy and creating havoc in '07
:cheers:

staind755
03-25-2007, 05:37 PM
For those of you who say we should NOT pick Peterson, do you realize what you are saying? Would you "BOOO" if you heard his name called? I can say one thing though, IF Peterson is there at 10 and we pass on him AND do not trade back for more picks, then the Texans will no longer have a home because I WILL burn Reliant stadium down.

Wolf
03-25-2007, 05:40 PM
I personally was ticked that we passed on DJ at the time. Not that I am a UT homer, but he slid down and we traded down and from rumors that floated around we had a couple players we liked and rolled the dice that one would be there when we traded down.. we were wrong and our options got taken...and got TJ instead.

I'd hate to see that again


Why I liked DJ..he was fast and had a knack of creating fumbles.

keyser
03-25-2007, 05:51 PM
I posted this in another thread in response to someone suggesting we trade for NE's two #1 picks, but it seems to be more appropriate for this thread.
I doubt NE would make that deal. On the other hand, since they're a playoff team & have most of the pieces in place, we might stand a better chance of getting the Jets to trade their 1st & two 2nd round picks, if AP is still on the board.

#10 = 1300 pts

#25 = 720 pts
#59 = 310 pts
#63 = 276 pts
Total = 1306 pts

How'd you like to trade down & pick up two 2nd round picks this year? At this point, I'd do that deal.

At 25, you could pick up a starting OL like Blaylock, Staley, Sears, Kalil, or Grubbs. Or, you could pick up one of the LB's, like Timmons, Posluszny, or Beason. And, of course, there should be several WR's, Michael Bush, second tier CB's, & safeties (Griffin/Meriweather) available, as well.

I'm confused - according to the list I found: (http://www.nfl.com/draft/drafttracker/round/round2), the Jets' picks in round 2 are #37 and #53 (#63 is Chicago). I find it hard to believe any teams are going to give up 3 picks in one year for one pick, though.

Whether I'd want to trade down would depend a lot on who is there at #10, and who we expect to be there later. Regarding Adrian Peterson, if he happened to be there at #10, I think we'd have to take him, unless we could basically rob some other team (i.e. get way better than the draft value chart for our pick).


I'd love to find a way to recover the 2 draft picks we gave up for Schaub (we have too many holes - I think we can use almost any pick in the first 3 rounds). I'd trade down, even if just to get a pick in next year's 2nd round (or 1st, or 3rd), assuming the value was "fair", and we didn't pass on some star. According to the value charts, if we found a willing partner (or some combination of partners), we could probably trade from #10 back into the early 20s, and pick up that team's #2 this year and next.

steelbtexan
03-25-2007, 05:52 PM
I'm with kastofsna on this one, take b.p.a. unless you get a 1st & 3rd this year & a 1st next year.

freedoggy77
03-25-2007, 06:25 PM
If I were the Texans, I'd be using Peterson's availablity to try to get one of my 2nd round picks back.

exactly what i would do and what i think rick smith will do

MATRIX
03-25-2007, 06:39 PM
For those of you who say we should NOT pick Peterson, do you realize what you are saying? Would you "BOOO" if you heard his name called? I can say one thing though, IF Peterson is there at 10 and we pass on him AND do not trade back for more picks, then the Texans will no longer have a home because I WILL burn Reliant stadium down.


Yes, I would boo. He isn't fit for the Denver-ish system we run. He would do fine, I'm sure, but he isn't the back we should get.

Their are about 3 others who can be taken later, and are a better fit to our system.

Here is why:

1- A guy like Lynch is a better reciver and is almost if not as explosive as AD. Our system has alot of RB screens, and Lynch would work better in that area than AD.

2- We could draft him and trade right back into the 1st with someone and probably get a #2 as well(GB comes to mind along with the Bills). Meaning we have 2 1st RD picks and a 2nd.

3- Their are ome other backs that we could get in RD's 2-3 that are raw and with Green to mentor and let them develop. We would still be set at RB for a min. of 5yrs barring injury.

Plus, here are afew backs that can become great if we trade AD if drafted we can get alot cheaper.

Kenny Irons is projected as a 3RD pick, and #8 RB in the draft according to Street & Smith at 5-10 7/8 and 198lbs, he could easily gain say 5-10lbs of muscle and become a Pro Bowl back in 2-3 years...and we grabbed him in the 3rd.

Lorenzo Booker is the # 7 RB according to S&S, and projected 3RD at 5-10 3/8 and 188. He is small but could be used as a 3rd down back or reciving back this year and then gain size and agian become a great back in 2-3 years. Agian we use only a 3rd for him.

Here are 4 that are projected late 2nd early 3rd. Bush 3, Hunt 4,Pittman 5,
Walker 6
Bush an Hunt are large backs in the 230lb range, and could easily become great if mentored andmaybe cut weight alittle. Walker and Pittman nee alittle work, but behind Green and Dayne...hey could agian be great. THE NUMBER BY THEIR NAME IS THE S&S RANK FO POSITION

And all of them we could easily get with a trade if we did take AD, or trade with a team who is desperate for him. We sure could get atleast 2 nds, if not a 1st and second for AD or the spot to take him.

So, due to the many needs we have I would pass on AD or use him to aquire picks and players. Meaning yes I would be mad if he was drafted and kept. Sure he is great, but we need WAY TOO MANY players to grab him. And I pray we won't be in a position to take a guy like Hart next year(top 10)


I also love to mess with Madden on this stuff. So, useing the 2006 team(seeing we had no idea about Carr then), and just adding a RB. I created AD and Lynch, Lynch had a lower rushing number at 1078 to AD's 1121. However, AD only had 24 catches for 302yds and 1 TD and Lynch had 405yrds and 3 TDs. They ere identical in size and weight to the real player, but I used the scouting reports to create the stats...and ofcourse Lych is said to have better hands, and AD more elusive. So, thats how they were created.

Navy_Chris
03-25-2007, 06:41 PM
If Adrian Peterson happens to be at 10 when the Texans are on the clock. What would you want to see the Texans do. As well, what would be the minumum you would want to see the Texans receive to move spots?

#1. I would personally take Peterson at 10 even though we have Green and Dayne. Tripple Threat, and you know one of the two will be hurting at different times of the season, plus we have the opportunity to get the 2nd best player in the draft at #10.

#2. I do not know much about the whole point system etc. I just know there is a chart that value certain spots in the draft. IF the Texans are on the clock with Peterson still on the board, I think at minimum the Texans must swap 1st rd. picks, anywhere from 11-20, then receive the teams 2nd rd. pick for this year, plus their first next year at minimum. Does that sound like too much, or too little?

I think the Texans are sitting in a fairly good position. I would love taking Peterson 10 overall, but at the same time I wouldn't mind receiving picks if the price is right.

I'd like to know everyone elese opionion.

There has been little talk about Peterson with all the Texans Quartback talk, I hope we don't hear much about him until draft day. May the Bills and Packers think were not taking him. Or REALLY make them think we are and they fall in love and hand us picks left and right for a franchise running back.

Gosh more than a month until the draft. I can't take it any longer, but hey, Astros opening day is 9 days away. I bet all the people who didn't renew their season tickets are wishing they did. Looks like the will be paying a premium to jump back on the bandwagon.

I'm in it for the longhall. It will make it that much more sweeter!!! Go Texans.

I would trade my #10 pick even if AD was there. I'd try and regain an early 2nd round pick and use it on Justin Blalock, the guard out of Texas. With the late 1st rounder I'd pick up I'd look at Robert Meachem and Reggie Nelson.

keyfro
03-25-2007, 06:47 PM
For those of you who say we should NOT pick Peterson, do you realize what you are saying? Would you "BOOO" if you heard his name called? I can say one thing though, IF Peterson is there at 10 and we pass on him AND do not trade back for more picks, then the Texans will no longer have a home because I WILL burn Reliant stadium down.

nah man...i would love it if we were able to still get adrian peterson...but you have to look at the value of the trade that we could get...if a team is gonna empty out their draft picks onto us for him you have to take the picks...just think about the eli manning trade...which would you rather have...eli manning and that's it...or phillip rivers, shawn merriman, and neading their kicker...if i can have three starters for the price of one i'm taking the three

Hottoddie
03-25-2007, 08:26 PM
I'm confused - according to the list I found: (http://www.nfl.com/draft/drafttracker/round/round2), the Jets' picks in round 2 are #37 and #53 (#63 is Chicago). I find it hard to believe any teams are going to give up 3 picks in one year for one pick, though.

NFL.com hasn't updated their site yet.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NYJ/10043228

Wolf
03-25-2007, 08:29 PM
If i am reading this right

Why would a team like the jets trade back up for Adrian if they got thomas Jones? why wouldn't they go for lynch ? afterall some say he is about the same but with better hands?

Esp the same jets that wouldn't trade up to get Reggie Bush last year

Hottoddie
03-25-2007, 08:33 PM
If i am reading this right

Why would a team like the jets trade back up for Adrian if they got thomas Jones? why wouldn't they go for lynch ? afterall some say he is about the same but with better hands?

Esp the same jets that wouldn't trade up to get Reggie Bush last year

They might not, but I've got to speculate about something. :D And who knows, they might.

Wolf
03-25-2007, 08:34 PM
They might not, but I've got to speculate about something. :D And who knows, they might.

I hear ya :D

MATRIX
03-25-2007, 10:06 PM
Jets, I doubt it.

But, if it was th Raiders and good old Al :bigboss: Davis...well aything odd is normal.


As much as I would like to see THIS:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Matrix_man_26/ad_spring_14.jpg


Look like this:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Matrix_man_26/AD-Texan.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Matrix_man_26/adrian-peterson-texans.jpg



I just don't see it with all our needs and without a huge trade as I really see Cleveland taking him at 3.

rollinstone18
03-25-2007, 10:35 PM
It's a shame because next year's draft will be deep in RBs. Should Darren McFadden, Steve Slaton, Jonathon Stewart, Ray Rice all declare in addition to Mike Hart, Jamaal Charles, and Albert Young you're looking at a DEEP RB class. Next year's draft will also be deep in LTs.

Losing that '08 2nd rounder could really bite us in the ass.

Hervoyel
03-25-2007, 10:46 PM
regardless, that's still not nearly as uneven as the offer by keyfro.

You're right, I was just kind of doing the message board version of thinking out loud.

keyfro
03-25-2007, 10:59 PM
It's a shame because next year's draft will be deep in RBs. Should Darren McFadden, Steve Slaton, Jonathon Stewart, Ray Rice all declare in addition to Mike Hart, Jamaal Charles, and Albert Young you're looking at a DEEP RB class. Next year's draft will also be deep in LTs.

Losing that '08 2nd rounder could really bite us in the ass.

your right but look at it this way...if we go into next years draft with RB being our major need...we still have our 1st rounder to pick up one of those guys...personally i think mike hart or ray rice fits the ZBS best...but you can't argue that talents like mcfadden and slaton wouldn't be nice to have as well

MATRIX
03-25-2007, 11:20 PM
If we don't take a RB this year. I would easily see us take Hart next year, the kid is 1st round no question(barring injury) and would fit the ZBS well.

keyfro
03-26-2007, 08:10 AM
the one reason i became a huge hart fan last year was because they constantly talked about how much mike carried that team...and how much his team felt like they could do anything with im in the lineup...that speaks volumes about the guy and about what kind of a RB he is

thunderkyss
03-26-2007, 09:58 AM
I'm with kastofsna on this one, take b.p.a. unless you get a 1st & 3rd this year & a 1st next year.

I think Kubiak has done a very good job so far, selecting the best player available.

Let's imagine everyone did have REggie as the best player available. He was going to be our guy, until they came across something they didn't like. Whatever it was, that was why we didn't pick him. So we drafted the #2 player on most boards.

Then we picked Demeco Ryans. Easily the best player on the board at that time. Marcus McNeil had a very good year as well. Went to the ProBowl to represent the AFC, and we could have used him on our team. But Demeco is every bit as good a MLB, as McNeil is a LT. & we were going to the 4-3, & we needed a LB just as badly.

Then we picked Charles Spencer, and Eric Winston. Looking back at who were available, who would you have rather had with those picks?? Norwood?? Jason Hatcher?? I don't think so.

4th round..... Owen Daniels.... I know some guys would probably trade Owen for Ko Simpson... But I wouldn't.

Even though we signed a DE to a pretty decent contract, signed two possible MLBs, Signed an experienced pass catching tight end...... Kubiak still drafted the best players on the board, that addressed those same needs.

I think it worked out pretty well for him, especially considering the time he had to get to know our team.

DayneBum
03-26-2007, 11:36 AM
i said this back in December, and i will say in March......


i'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say. The texans wont be drafting no rb in next years draft. If anything they will sign an undrafted rookie..


Thats my story and i'm sticking to it.:tearup:

David's Busted Carr
03-26-2007, 08:07 PM
If I were the Texans, I'd be using Peterson's availablity to try to get one of my 2nd round picks back.

I'd want them BOTH back at a minimum. Give up Peterson to move down in the 1st round and get 2nd round picks this year AND next year.

Otherwise I'd probably draft Peterson and keep him. Green will be here 2 years max and Peterson is an ELITE talent.

Wolf
03-26-2007, 09:06 PM
probably wishful thinking at this point..why give up that much when Lynch is there?

Insideop
03-27-2007, 12:20 AM
i said this back in December, and i will say in March......


i'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say. The texans wont be drafting no rb in next years draft. If anything they will sign an undrafted rookie..


Thats my story and i'm sticking to it.:tearup:

I'm with ya on this one DB. I don't think the Texans will draft a RB this year either. Signing Green and resigning Dayne pretty much sealed that deal. And, if by some miracle, AD is there at #10, I think we take him and try to trade down to maybe Buffalo or GB. But, I don't think he will be there.

What I don't understand is the "logic" of some people who believe he will fall to us because all the other teams ahead of us don't need a RB because they all have this RB or that RB. Then when they get to our pick it suddenly becomes BPA, even though we have Green, Dayne, Taylor, and Lundy. Like the other teams won't pick the BPA. I guess I just don't understand this type of thinking or is it just wishful thinking? :confused: