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pittbull
10-24-2004, 09:31 PM
All out assault on defense and offense. The Texans finally prove to the league they are ready to make the jump and deal with the elite teams and games! Houston wins in their most dominating performance in franchise history! :headbang:

Texans 38
Jaguars 3

jags98
10-24-2004, 09:45 PM
Jags: 21
Texans: 17

It will be a close game and 2 young promising Qbs lead there teams. :twocents:

jags98
10-24-2004, 10:04 PM
whew, man we might not have to watch the first 3 1/2 quarters. that byron is a comeback king. i dont like any young qb that is jumping out in front of carr stat wise win wise etc. so i dont like him but have to give him his props. he is the best young qb we will be facing so far this season. we might win 21-17,. our cbs will match up well with their recievers i think.
You will probably be able to cover all the Recievers but Jimmy. Not one team has really been able to shut down Jimmy and hes had Champ and Samari Rolle on him. Truley will be a close game.

OzzO
10-24-2004, 10:26 PM
We play some smart D, D-Rob steps into his own and D-line gets some pressure on Leftwich.... give David some time, get a good running game, along with a few deep to AJ....

TEXANS 23
Jags 21

Gotta get the fans and players into it early.... get LOUD!!!

Fiddy
10-24-2004, 10:31 PM
I dont predict but here is who has the advantages:
Secondary - Texans
Linebackers - Texans
D-Line - Jags

O-Line - Jags
WRs - Texans
RBs - Jags
QBs - Push

Kris Brown over Scoobey Doo
Stanley and Hanson - too tough to call - Push
Kick Returning - Jags

Gonna be a good game...

JaguarsFan1
10-24-2004, 11:40 PM
EASY WIN!! WE absolutely clobber the freaking Jags. Texans win


Texans = 3
Jags = 0

Its gonna be BLOOOODYY!!!! I like it like that!


LMFAO...........

phan1
10-25-2004, 12:36 AM
This will be one tough game. Coming from a Texans fan, I wouldn't say that we would be the favorite in this one. Jag's front 7 are playing fantastic, and I really don't think our Running game will be very much improved from the last game, even with DD coming back. As for our defense, we will really need to depend on them for this game. Our defense is going to have to play lights out come Sunday, because I'm not sure how far our offense is going to go in this one. Our offense has played very well, but this is the best D that we've faced all year.

Fiddy
10-25-2004, 12:52 AM
Jag's front 7 are playing fantastic, and I really don't think our Running game will be very much improved from the last game, even with DD coming back.Thats why I suggest using the pass to set up the run. For example, on the final drive against the Titans, Gaff caught a 20 yard seam route. Before he caught that, we were having trouble running between the tackles and after Wells started seeing more room. So I would try to hit Bruener or Miller on a seam early (Clark and Pollard killed the Jags on those) to open up the lanes for the running game...

beerlover
10-25-2004, 01:31 AM
TEXANS 24 JAGS 21

TEXANS84
10-25-2004, 01:47 AM
I don't like the Jags, never have never will.

Texans 24
Jaguars 13

Marcus
10-25-2004, 10:25 AM
Texans 38
Jaguars 3


:um:

I wouldn't go anywhere near Vegas if I were you. :whistle:

SBTexans08
10-25-2004, 10:45 AM
Jags 15
Texans 13

Keldar
10-25-2004, 10:51 AM
Jaguars 27
Texans 13 eek:

RTP2110
10-25-2004, 11:05 AM
Damnit the Jags are looking like the Panthers of last season. Good defense and a maturing offense. Oiiii!! Got to put a stop to this shinanigans right here.

That's fine, remember last year when we beat the Panthers, at Reliant, on Battle Red Day? I'd be happy with a repeat of that.

SBTexans08
10-25-2004, 11:15 AM
That's fine, remember last year when we beat the Panthers, at Reliant, on Battle Red Day? I'd be happy with a repeat of that.

Yeah....but that means that the Jags would go to their home turf for a Super Bowl appearance! eek:

trutexan67
10-25-2004, 11:16 AM
I don't see the Jags secondary matching up with our receivers in this game. I think the Jags secondary is their achilles hill. Andre Johnson, will exploit them.

|The.Brand0n|
10-25-2004, 12:10 PM
I remember having the same feeling before the Raider game. I know the Jags D-Line is more dominant than Oakland's. But the Texans did 1000% better than I was expecting. I think the same thing happens here...

Texans 28
Jaguars 17

Jagaurs
Byron Leftwich: 18/28, 243 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT's.
Fred Taylor: 22 carries, 114 yds, 1 TD.
Jimmy Smith: 5 rec, 64 yds.


Texans
David Carr: 24/31, 292 yards, 3 TD's.
Domanick Davis: 16 carries, 57 yards, 1 TD.
Andre Johnson: 8 rec, 94 yards. 2 TD's.

brickmantexanfan
10-25-2004, 01:24 PM
Texans-38,jags-21

Meloy
10-25-2004, 01:45 PM
I think quick slashing routes by recievers and tight ends to punish Jaguar's dbacks will pay off in second half and open them up for a long ball or two. I would use Breuner and Matt Murphy and Andre repeatedly banging ahead. I think Hollings may pick up a few yards on end arounds and I would also hammer the dline with Full back slants. I do not expect Davis will be very successful but I do hope I'm wrong. Any way, I think we need to hit them hard and often and kick field goals any time we get close to their 40.

Diehardtexan
10-25-2004, 02:36 PM
TEXANS 13
Jags 7

Nawzer
10-25-2004, 02:45 PM
I have a feeling that Kris Brown will be a big part of this game. I predict he'll kick the game winning field goal once again. Texans have to make sure they don't have any turnovers and our defense has to stop people in 3rd down. We did a good job on defense against the Titans but this is a different team and I hope that we'll concentrate on this game and forget about the Titans game.

Texans-20
Kitty Kats- 17

Evilzorac
10-25-2004, 03:50 PM
Hello I am new here. My perdiction
Jags 21
tinhorns 10

Sorry guys I think you have a good team but not quite there yet. But I do love some of your picks :hehe:

FILO_girl
10-25-2004, 04:04 PM
Tough one, but we will rise to the occasion.

Texans: 24 :headbang:
Jags: 21

gwallaia
10-25-2004, 04:29 PM
Jags 23
Texans 20

Overtime

281
10-25-2004, 05:08 PM
Jags- 21

Texans- 27

TsJagman
10-25-2004, 05:22 PM
I dont predict but here is who has the advantages:
Secondary - Texans
Linebackers - Texans
D-Line - Jags

O-Line - Jags
WRs - Texans
RBs - Jags
QBs - Push

Kris Brown over Scoobey Doo
Stanley and Hanson - too tough to call - Push
Kick Returning - Jags

Gonna be a good game...

Although I will go along with everything else you have stated, have to point out that the WR's the Jags have are a bit better. I am gonna give the Jags the edge due to the fact we have 5 guys that Lefty can throw it to at any time, and this is not including the Jags, so far, not so great 1st round pick. I did group our TE's together, so it would be TE/WR's.

Everything else, right on the money. There is a slight edge on LB's, the reason I give you guys the edge, you employ more on the field at one time. Not a huge edge, but one none the less.

El_DudeArino
10-25-2004, 06:08 PM
Houston 34 Jags 31
This will not be the one game to prove the Texans are contenders, they have well proven that already. They made the Viks run hard for their money... :fight:

Texas_Heat
10-25-2004, 07:30 PM
Texans 20 Jags 17 :fight:

Fiddy
10-25-2004, 07:32 PM
Although I will go along with everything else you have stated, have to point out that the WR's the Jags have are a bit better. I am gonna give the Jags the edge due to the fact we have 5 guys that Lefty can throw it to at any time, and this is not including the Jags, so far, not so great 1st round pick. I did group our TE's together, so it would be TE/WR's.

Everything else, right on the money. There is a slight edge on LB's, the reason I give you guys the edge, you employ more on the field at one time. Not a huge edge, but one none the less.Carr has four guys he can throw it to and as of right now:

Andre Johnson > Jimmy Smith
Jabar Gaffney > Reggie Williams
Corey Bradford > Troy Edwards
Derick Armstrong > Earnest Wilford
Billy Miller < Kyle Brady

I really dont see how you can think that Leftwitch has a better WR corps than Carr.

On the LBs crew, I gave the edge to the Texans because of Jamie Sharper.

jags98
10-25-2004, 07:47 PM
Carr has four guys he can throw it to and as of right now:

Andre Johnson > Jimmy Smith
Jabar Gaffney > Reggie Williams
Corey Bradford > Troy Edwards
Derick Armstrong > Earnest Wilford
Billy Miller < Kyle Brady

I really dont see how you can think that Leftwitch has a better WR corps than Carr.

On the LBs crew, I gave the edge to the Texans because of Jamie Sharper.
You guys might not think so but I would have to give Andre and Jimmy a push. Jimmy is really fast and knows the game really well and Andre looks like a top 15 reciever already. Plus with the Jaime Sharper Comment the Jags have Mike Peterson who is 3rd in the league but if you havent had your bye it would be about equal. Plus in a 3-4 your linebackers get more tackles than they would in a 4-3.

Lucky
10-25-2004, 09:24 PM
I don't know if comparing the WRs against each other makes sense. But comparing the Texan WRs to the Jags CBs does.

Andre Johnson > Rashean Mathis
Jabar Gaffney > Dewayne Washington
Corey Bradford > Juran Bolden
Derick Armstrong > Kiwaukee Thomas

These are the matchups that favor the Texans the most. Look back to the Texan/Jag game last year at Reliant, and it was the Texans spreading the field with 3 WRs that allowed Carr to start out 7-8 for 80 yards in the 1st 2 series. Fumble problems by the RBs (sound familiar?) let the Jags back in that game, but they showed their vulnerability to multiple WR sets.

And they're still vulnerable as the Indy game attests. Indy passed at will in the spread set, it was the Jag offense that stopped the Colts offense by staging long drives all day long. Call me mental, but I think the Texans will do a better job than the Colts in getting Leftwich, Taylor, & Smith off the field. I also think Palmer remembers how Carr & the WRs jumped all over the Jags DBs last year.

Texans 27
Jags 20

Jagsbch
10-25-2004, 09:41 PM
I predict that I am going to have a heart attack before the game even starts. I have never in all my life been worried about a game as much as I am this one. I predict that this is going to be an awesome game and I will leave it at that.

TexansTrueFan
10-25-2004, 09:54 PM
Hello I am new here. My perdiction
Jags 21
tinhorns 10

Sorry guys I think you have a good team but not quite there yet. But I do love some of your picks :hehe:


Ok its obvious you are new to our board ,,,RULES

1) Dont come on the Texans board and call us the Tinhorns

2) No way you beat us by even that much IF you do win, but you'll most likly lose at reliant you might have a better chance at your field.

3) Oh yeah my prediction (MY TEAMS BOARD REMIND YOU)

TEXANS 38
Jags 3

Hmmmm how was that ok ok i might have made it closer for you guys than it really will be but i dont want any suicidle thoughts so we'll just leave it at that !

UCFJag
10-25-2004, 10:24 PM
Hmmmm i go to say i believe i know where this game is going.
Jacksonville is ocming off of a HUGE victory. The players are extremely pumped at this point and ready to show the nation they are for real. The win at Indy proved that a win this week would catapult them to a possible dividion favortie. That coupled with the talent i see in this team make this a tough game to be "logical" about. I beliee Jacksonville will explode this week. I hate to say it (or you texan fans sake) but i think the win over Indy really got this Offense going. I hope i'm right, you hope i'm wrong.

My PIck
Jags-34
Taxans-17

now all of you can get mad at me and tell me i'm wonrg. But thats hwo i feel. I also knew they would win the Indy game this time last week, just a gut feeling.

TexansTrueFan
10-25-2004, 10:29 PM
a gut feeling huh ??? Ya ever get those after a loss it hits ya right in tha gut !!!!!! Hope ur used to that man its not a good feeling (trust me),,,,but your offense did exploed against who ???? Oh yeah The colts i mean we know how good of a defense they have RIGHT hahahahaha ok ok sorry dont want to take anything away from your win but lets face it their D is hopeless ,,,they only win because of Manning and their offense ! Explode haha good one

UCFJag
10-25-2004, 10:34 PM
a gut feeling huh ??? Ya ever get those after a loss it hits ya right in tha gut !!!!!! Hope ur used to that man its not a good feeling (trust me),,,,but your offense did exploed against who ???? Oh yeah The colts i mean we know how good of a defense they have RIGHT hahahahaha ok ok sorry dont want to take anything away from your win but lets face it their D is hopeless ,,,they only win because of Manning and their offense ! Explode haha good one

WELL i dont wanna pick a fight to start... however... i never said the jags offense exploded against Indy. What i saw was more of the same really, scoring points when they were needed to keep it close and pulling it off in the end. WHAT I DID SAY IS. I believe the jags will explode this week. That is against the Texans. I believe the Texans are a good football team, and that is no lie, i just believe that after a game such as the win IN Indianapolis this team will play hard and strong against a tough division opponent and do it well and win the game, convincingly.

TexansTrueFan
10-25-2004, 10:41 PM
OK DID YOU NOT READ WHAT I SAID ???? the reason they looked so good on offense last week was because INDY HAS NOOOOOO DEFENSE !!!!!!!! you understand that hard concept ???? A mediocra offense goes against a terrible defense and they look GOOD common sense my friend. And our D is not near as bad as the colts so why would you explode against us when you didnt even explode against the colts terrible D ? A lil momentium for yall YES but bad colts defense this week NO,,,you got G. Walker , Robaire Smith, A. Glenn, Dunta Robinson, Jamie Sharper, etc and not to mention our MORE high powered offense than yours !

UCFJag
10-25-2004, 10:51 PM
I dont believe you realize that the Jags had ample opportunity to score 40+ points in that game. There were several drives stalled in the red zone where jax did not get 7. add another 16 to that and they scored 40.
I think they figured a few things out against Indy in the run game, a few new plays came up in that game that pushed fred taylor for his first big game of the season. The addition to a now near healthy TE in Kyle Brady helped out a lot in that situation as well as passing game as Brady is cathcing clutch passes other TE's were missing. (i.e. the 2nd quarter TD) several balls have been dropped on 3rd downs and in end zone by TE's. Brady doesnt drop very many balls, and Taylor gets a bulk of his yards to the strong side of the field when Brady is healthy (historically, includidng yesterday). Byron also continues to grow, and in that comes confidence from the coaches, allowing him to do more each week. This team has opened up the offense a little more every week. Every week we score more points and look more impressive. I dont think this is a coinsidence and I dont think this will change this week, they will continue to grow, including in the house of your beloved Texans.

TexansTrueFan
10-25-2004, 11:13 PM
wow taylor had a big game ??? hmmm does it have anything to do against the Colts Bad D ??? Can u even read man ? i know i watched the game and the colts held little resistance,,,all the things ur saying just backs my claim the reason yall had such a good game is because of their bad D !!!!

longhornjag
10-26-2004, 12:42 AM
Here's what i don't understand. Why do some of you guys think your offense is going to put up such high numbers? Your offense isn't as good as the Colts and we held them TWICE to 24. In fact only San Diego, in a game played poorly by Jags D, has scored more points. I don't see either team in this game scoring over 24 if either team even reaches 20. You guys keep saying how both our defense and offense aren't all that great, but all that matters is they are good enough and have been 5 out the last 7 weeks. It will be a close game 7 point difference at most and I'll be there cheering my Jags on.

Jwwillis
10-26-2004, 01:03 AM
Hmmmm i go to say i believe i know where this game is going.
Jacksonville is ocming off of a HUGE victory. The players are extremely pumped at this point and ready to show the nation they are for real. The win at Indy proved that a win this week would catapult them to a possible dividion favortie. That coupled with the talent i see in this team make this a tough game to be "logical" about. I beliee Jacksonville will explode this week. I hate to say it (or you texan fans sake) but i think the win over Indy really got this Offense going. I hope i'm right, you hope i'm wrong.

My PIck
Jags-34
Taxans-17

now all of you can get mad at me and tell me i'm wonrg. But thats hwo i feel. I also knew they would win the Indy game this time last week, just a gut feeling.

Your right. Since Jville beat Indy by 3 i think they are going to win all there remaining games and the SB too. :hehe: :rofl: :hehe:

ColdSteelBlue
10-26-2004, 06:17 AM
Although I will go along with everything else you have stated, have to point out that the WR's the Jags have are a bit better. I am gonna give the Jags the edge due to the fact we have 5 guys that Lefty can throw it to at any time, and this is not including the Jags, so far, not so great 1st round pick. I did group our TE's together, so it would be TE/WR's.

Everything else, right on the money. There is a slight edge on LB's, the reason I give you guys the edge, you employ more on the field at one time. Not a huge edge, but one none the less.

Don't worry man. Lefty will be throwing to a great 1st round pick. Dunta Robinson. He'll get a couple of "catches ", maybe even a TD. :boxing:

Tedc
10-26-2004, 07:18 AM
Here's what i don't understand. Why do some of you guys think your offense is going to put up such high numbers? Your offense isn't as good as the Colts and we held them TWICE to 24. In fact only San Diego, in a game played poorly by Jags D, has scored more points. I don't see either team in this game scoring over 24 if either team even reaches 20. You guys keep saying how both our defense and offense aren't all that great, but all that matters is they are good enough and have been 5 out the last 7 weeks. It will be a close game 7 point difference at most and I'll be there cheering my Jags on.


Two reasons. We average 23 points a game, you average 17.4 points a game.

And you have played Indy's terrible defense twice.

Texans 30, Jags 17.

Grid
10-26-2004, 07:43 AM
Here's what i don't understand. Why do some of you guys think your offense is going to put up such high numbers? Your offense isn't as good as the Colts and we held them TWICE to 24. In fact only San Diego, in a game played poorly by Jags D, has scored more points. I don't see either team in this game scoring over 24 if either team even reaches 20. You guys keep saying how both our defense and offense aren't all that great, but all that matters is they are good enough and have been 5 out the last 7 weeks. It will be a close game 7 point difference at most and I'll be there cheering my Jags on.


Well here is one way to look at it.

our strength is our passing game.. and your passing defense is 22nd in the league.

Above you is Tennessee and Oakland.. 2 teams we have beaten. Below you is Detroit and San Diego.. the first two teams we played and lost too, but honestly most texans fans arent counting those games since we were not "ourselves" at that time.

Also below you is Minnesota.. who beat us on the strength of their offense.. but just barely.

you have a great run defense.. but at this point our running game only has to be good enough to make you consider it.. not be dominant. And it is good enough to do that.

So.. if you think about it. We have played 2 of the best offenses in the game in Minnesota and KC... beating one and almost beating the other.. your offense is not close to theirs (you are 15th, they are 1st and 5th) And we have played two passing defenses above yours, and won.

SO.. looking at it from a statistical standpoint.. we have you beat on both offense and defense.

Now.. to be fair, lets look at it from your standpoint.

You have played against one passing offense better than ours, Indi, and won. You have also played alot of rushing offenses better than ours, KC, SD, Ten, Indi, and Denver (btw, did you know we have a higher ranked rushing offense than you? we average more yards per game and have 5 tds to your 4)

these teams have a better passing defense than us: KC, Tennessee, Denver, and Buffalo. and EVERY team you played had a better rushing defense than us.

So then.. statistically you could say that we have the worst defense you have come up against.. and are about average as offenses you have played goes.


Here is the kicker though.

We have the "worst" rushing defense.. yet we shut down tennessee who has a rushing offense far bette than yours. we have the worse passing defense.. yet 2 of the teams we beat have a higher passing offense than yours.

SO.. what can we deduce from all this?

stats dont mean ****.. and we are still going to win.

Doug
10-26-2004, 01:28 PM
Well I'm not gonna get caught up in the who's better than who situation. Both teams have their strengths that can capitalize on the others weakness'. This is going to be one hell of a game. I see it as a low scoring game though with the Texans pulling it out 13 - 10 and Indy getting smoked by the Chiefs revitalized offense. It will be a fun weekend in the AFC South.

texan279
10-26-2004, 01:50 PM
Here's what i don't understand. Why do some of you guys think your offense is going to put up such high numbers? Your offense isn't as good as the Colts

Total ofense in NFL, clots #3 Texans # 8, team offense QB rating, clots #2 Texans #4, points per game scored clots #1 Texans #8, total passing yards clots #5 Texans #10, might not be as good as the clots but pretty darn close.

jr0ck
10-26-2004, 01:52 PM
on paper we look better to have the adavntages against jacksonville, but with this emerging "it" factor they seem to possess, it'll be a dog fight. if a jag takes another cheap shot at a texan this year (like the one on JJ in the first game last year) i hope antwan peek lays jack del rio out, helmet through his chin. good, tough game regardless that will be a good indicator of were the texans are at....its battle red for a reason!!
texans - 17
jags - 13

TheOgre
10-26-2004, 02:11 PM
I think we split with the Jags and Colts and sweep the Thumbtacks this year. We stay undefeated in the Battle Red jerseys.

Texans 24, Jaguars 17

Jagsbch
10-26-2004, 02:38 PM
Well here is one way to look at it... the first two teams we played and lost too, but honestly most texans fans arent counting those games since we were not "ourselves" at that time.

We have played 2 of the best offenses in the game in Minnesota and KC... beating one and almost beating the other.. your offense is not close to theirs

Once upon a time the Jags offense were too "not ourselves". You have no idea how badly we missed Brady. 2 Rookie WR's... Hey it was tough start, but the Jags still managed to scratch out victories while experiencing the growing pains associated with such a young team. I think the team being so young contributes to their ability to out play other teams in the 4th. :thumbup

Our offense out played KC when we faced them. Our offense out played the Vikings last week. Jags are much closer to being one of the best offenses in the league than you think. Wake up. We just had 4 games averaging over 300 yards a game passing to an average of about 10 receivers a game. Jaguars offense is only getting better. :thumbup

texan279
10-26-2004, 02:54 PM
Our offense is averaging 259 yards passing a game. I don't think many people here would argue that both of our teams have young QB's who are on the rise and that both of our offenses as a whole are on the rise. Just my opinion.

infantrycak
10-26-2004, 03:38 PM
Our offense out played KC when we faced them. Our offense out played the Vikings last week.

Pssst--Dude, you didn't play the Vikings last week--it was the Colts.

In any event, the Jags offense has greatly improved over the last few games from the start of the season and IMO both the Jags and Texans have been performing much better than last year and look like they have lots of potential for growth still on O which should be very scary for the rest of the league.

TheOgre
10-26-2004, 04:51 PM
I need to get back on track. I picked the first 5 games right and initially picked us against the Thumbtacks but changed my predictions at the 12th hours (4 mins before game time). 5-1 and soon to be 6-1 picking Texan's games.

RWBinJax
10-26-2004, 07:50 PM
Frankly, I think the Jags and Texans will be "fighting it out" for the AFC South the next few years.

This year, maybe not. But in the meantime, I believe the Jags are about 4 points better, despite the "Vegas" odds.

Good luck, and let's have a good. clean game (i.e., no Denver cheap shot at the knees).

Panther5407
10-26-2004, 08:42 PM
Texans 21
Jags 10

Jags stall on a couple of late drives, one a interception and the battle red continues to win.

TexanExile
10-26-2004, 08:52 PM
I predict that I am going to have a heart attack before the game even starts. I have never in all my life been worried about a game as much as I am this one. I predict that this is going to be an awesome game and I will leave it at that.


Now THERE's a sentiment I can respect. :hehe: I think I'm slightly more relaxed about this game, but that's mainly because the bye week allowed me to skip a weekend of football and reconnect with the real world. (Done with it for about 10 more weeks now!) This is a huge game for both teams and I do hope, for the sake of this division's new powers, that it's well played. I don't know if the Texans, who haven't done well after bye weeks, are quite ready to face another young team that has a knack for 4th-quarter excitement--but if they're not, it's mental, not physical. The Texans offense should (repeat, SHOULD) light up the Jags secondary, especially if Wade can make it back and keep the pressure off Carr.

But this is the predictions thread. Based on my continued reverse-psychology hot streak, here it is:

Jags 27
Texans 24
NATURALLY, a last-minute victory.

Happy to be wrong every week! :headbang:

axman40
10-26-2004, 09:24 PM
Texans 19
Jags 16
:cool:

longhornjag
10-26-2004, 11:46 PM
The game WILL NOT be won by more than 7 and it WILL NOT be a high scoring affair, if you think either will happen you're too much of a homer to be thinking clearly.

Tedc
10-27-2004, 06:52 AM
The game WILL NOT be won by more than 7 and it WILL NOT be a high scoring affair, if you think either will happen you're too much of a homer to be thinking clearly.

Vegas has the over/under set at 42 1/2. No not a terribly high scoring game but if you want a low scoring game look at Buffalo and Arizona.

Diehardtexan
10-27-2004, 01:10 PM
The game WILL NOT be won by more than 7 and it WILL NOT be a high scoring affair, if you think either will happen you're too much of a homer to be thinking clearly.

I think the game will be very close...and I beleive that either team can win this game by 3 points...Our Ofense has the tools to score 40 plus points but the coaching staff is holding them back with the play calling...If we open up the passing game we have WRs and TEs that can give any Defense a nightmare...If the Jags don't put pressure on Carr he will tear your Ds a part.

JAGGATOR1
10-27-2004, 04:42 PM
I agree. I expect a low scoring affair. Both of these teams have been going down field quite often this year, so it would be no suprise to see both Del Rio and Capers scheme against that. No long TD's or huge chunks of yardage will be given up through the air.

What I think it will come down to is each teams running game and special teams play. Normally, I would say the Jags have a "leg up" (no pun intended). However, we have some injuries on the OL we're dealing with and Taylor is dinged up (nursing a quad injury). So I will call this part of the matchup *even*.

Special teams however I have decidely in favor of the Jags.

Final score predicition....

Jags - 17

Tinhorns - 13

Lucky
10-27-2004, 05:16 PM
...I expect a low scoring affair. Both of these teams have been going down field quite often this year, so it would be no suprise to see both Del Rio and Capers scheme against that. No long TD's or huge chunks of yardage will be given up through the air.
The Jags have allowed opposing QBs to throw for 9 TDs & and 1114 yards the past 4 games. Over the same period, Leftwich has passed for 1273 yards with 6 TDs.

In the past 4 games, Carr has thrown for 1099 yards & 6 TDs. While the Texan defense has given up 1067 yards in the air plus 9 TDs .

Iím sure the 2 coaching staffs have ďschemedĒ in previous weeks, as well. Each teamís defense has had their good & bad moments. Now Iím not going to say that the Texans and Jags will absolutely put up big time passing yards against each other. But, the statistics indicate that they should.

DreamCatcher
10-27-2004, 05:39 PM
Texans 22
Jags 20
Close call

Blake
10-27-2004, 06:33 PM
Texans 23
Jags - 17

With :03 seconds left on the play clock David Carr up top for the win at the goal line. Storybook ending.

But seriously. I see Carr and Leftwich having 300 yard games, and 2 TD's each. Houstons D steps up at home and keeps Taylor out of the endzone. Kris Brown boots in 3 field goals. Josh "I wanna be like Vanderjagt" Scobee gets 1 field goal.

Jagsbch
10-27-2004, 08:00 PM
Taylor gets a TD. lol:

ColdSteelBlue
10-27-2004, 11:37 PM
Taylor gets a TD. lol:

....and its called back on a holding call. lol:

MrLizardTX
10-27-2004, 11:58 PM
HOU 27 :thumbup
JAX 16 idonno:

TheTim5125
10-28-2004, 12:14 AM
I seriously think the Texans are gonna kick the jaguars butts( i censored myself) I really think we are a better team.

Texans- 37
Jaguars-20

caveatemptor
10-28-2004, 12:27 AM
This is gonna be a really tough game for the Texans. One thing we're going to have to do is establish the run to be successful through the air which is the place we'll ultimately have to win. Our defense will have to step up big like they did against Tennesse, especially our run defense. I think the whole key to the game is getting ahead early and dictating the pace of the game. Byron Leftwich has proven that he's not a guy you want with the ball last if you're only up by one score. I think in the end, we will eke out a 24-14 game that will be closer contested than that scoreline suggests.

Titanico
10-28-2004, 03:31 AM
Jags 33

Texans 13

my :twocents:

Titanico
10-28-2004, 03:32 AM
Texans 23
Jags - 17

With :03 seconds left on the play clock David Carr up top for the win at the goal line. Storybook ending.

But seriously. I see Carr and Leftwich having 300 yard games, and 2 TD's each. Houstons D steps up at home and keeps Taylor out of the endzone. Kris Brown boots in 3 field goals. Josh "I wanna be like Vanderjagt" Scobee gets 1 field goal. too much Dr. Pepper makes someone say things like that???

Tedc
10-28-2004, 07:05 AM
Jags 33

Texans 13

my :twocents:

You are confused. You still cannot get over your loss to the Texans and your board has been abandoned. The Titanic has sunk.

beerlover
10-28-2004, 08:25 PM
this should make us all feel better - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7833973

also important to keep a good sense of humor lol:

Corrosion
10-28-2004, 10:11 PM
27-24 Texans!

D-ReK
10-29-2004, 02:11 AM
Utilizing the reverse psychology approach,

Jaguars - 24

Texans - 21

El_DudeArino
10-29-2004, 04:05 AM
Texans-38,jags-21
The Cowboys used to be called Dallas Texans....

El_DudeArino
10-29-2004, 04:08 AM
Jags 23
Texans 20

Overtime
Your Fired!!!! :thumbdown

El_DudeArino
10-29-2004, 04:14 AM
When You See The Final Score....I predict that I am going to have a heart attack before the game even starts. I have never in all my life been worried about a game as much as I am this one. I predict that this is going to be an awesome game and I will leave it at that.

El_DudeArino
10-29-2004, 04:17 AM
Hmmmm i go to say i believe i know where this game is going.
Jacksonville is ocming off of a HUGE victory. The players are extremely pumped at this point and ready to show the nation they are for real. The win at Indy proved that a win this week would catapult them to a possible dividion favortie. That coupled with the talent i see in this team make this a tough game to be "logical" about. I beliee Jacksonville will explode this week. I hate to say it (or you texan fans sake) but i think the win over Indy really got this Offense going. I hope i'm right, you hope i'm wrong.

My PIck
Jags-34
Taxans-17

now all of you can get mad at me and tell me i'm wonrg. But thats hwo i feel. I also knew they would win the Indy game this time last week, just a gut feeling.This Guy Is A Bum!!!!

El_DudeArino
10-29-2004, 04:27 AM
Well here is one way to look at it.

our strength is our passing game.. and your passing defense is 22nd in the league.

Above you is Tennessee and Oakland.. 2 teams we have beaten. Below you is Detroit and San Diego.. the first two teams we played and lost too, but honestly most texans fans arent counting those games since we were not "ourselves" at that time.

Also below you is Minnesota.. who beat us on the strength of their offense.. but just barely.

you have a great run defense.. but at this point our running game only has to be good enough to make you consider it.. not be dominant. And it is good enough to do that.

So.. if you think about it. We have played 2 of the best offenses in the game in Minnesota and KC... beating one and almost beating the other.. your offense is not close to theirs (you are 15th, they are 1st and 5th) And we have played two passing defenses above yours, and won.

SO.. looking at it from a statistical standpoint.. we have you beat on both offense and defense.

Now.. to be fair, lets look at it from your standpoint.

You have played against one passing offense better than ours, Indi, and won. You have also played alot of rushing offenses better than ours, KC, SD, Ten, Indi, and Denver (btw, did you know we have a higher ranked rushing offense than you? we average more yards per game and have 5 tds to your 4)

these teams have a better passing defense than us: KC, Tennessee, Denver, and Buffalo. and EVERY team you played had a better rushing defense than us.

So then.. statistically you could say that we have the worst defense you have come up against.. and are about average as offenses you have played goes.


Here is the kicker though.

We have the "worst" rushing defense.. yet we shut down tennessee who has a rushing offense far bette than yours. we have the worse passing defense.. yet 2 of the teams we beat have a higher passing offense than yours.

SO.. what can we deduce from all this?

stats dont mean ****.. and we are still going to win.
Check out the statistics major, go get em!!!!

Jagsbch
10-29-2004, 07:12 AM
Well here is one way to look at it.

our strength is our passing game.. and your passing defense is 22nd in the league.
Blah blah blah

We have the "worst" rushing defense... Blah blah blah

Hey dude our strength is our passing game as well, and you all are 26th against the pass, advantage Jags. Your rushing offense is 23rd in the league. What makes you think your offense will keep up with ours, when Payaton who has one of the best offenses in the league couldn't even do it last week with James, and KC couldn't do it the week before with Holmes? I hope youíre not trying to say that Houston has a better offense than KC and the Dolts. :rofl: :boxing:

Stats are not what make this game so worrisome, it's about a race to the top, a race in which we are leading mind you. In my mind the biggest threat to the Jags this week is the probability that the Texans will have the advantage motivation wise.

I think motivation in the parity reality of the NFL plays a huge role in being the ultimate pivotal point in a game. San Diego, Monday night... enough said. Motivation is going to play a huge role in this game. Jags are going to have a hard time matching the motivational intensity of the Texans coming off the high last week, and being on top of the division. 27-0 what better motivation is there than that, when going up against a team who is about as evenly matched but on top of the division.

Jags need to come out swinging, with a perspective that this team is going to be play hell to bring down. We can't go into this game, with we are the New Sheriff mentality, we have to go into it as a team who could easily be 0-7 with much more to prove. :popcorn:

willy
10-29-2004, 08:01 AM
I think that the Jaguars and the NFL in general still thinks about Houston's D like a "average" defense ans they are not giveing it the credit that it deserve. Leftwitch gonna be intercepted 2 times at least, and David and Andre gonna have a great game.

Texans 30
Jaguars 14

TexanExile
10-29-2004, 08:23 AM
Heh...notwithstanding the great 4-INT performance against the Tacks, I WISH this defense were "average," at least in terms of stats. Then again, if you look at the total defense stats for the league right now, some of the very best defenses are on the very worst teams:

Washington #1
Tampa Bay #3
Miami #4
Buffalo #5


The Texans D would be in much better shape if it could knock down that awful 3rd-down conversion percentage. We're 32nd in the league there. Some consolation: the Jag-Wires are 30th and the Nags are 31st.

infantrycak
10-29-2004, 08:54 AM
The Texans D would be in much better shape if it could knock down that awful 3rd-down conversion percentage. We're 32nd in the league there. Some consolation: the Jag-Wires are 30th and the Nags are 31st.

This is one of those times that the raw overall stat doesn't adequately reflect the recent team performance. We got torched on 3rd downs the 1st two games so we have been digging out of a hole for the full season stats. But looking more recently--Oakland 38% (right at middle of the league), Minnesota 54% (but then again they have torched everyone for 50+%) and Titans 31% (well above average). Basically they are moving in the right direction.

TEXANS84
10-29-2004, 01:12 PM
http://picture.funnyjunk.com/pics/scaredkitty.jpg

Texas_Heat
10-29-2004, 04:30 PM
The Cowboys used to be called Dallas Texans....

No I don't,But I did know that the Kansas City Chiefs used to be called the Dallas Texans.... :BananaWav

ColdSteelBlue
10-29-2004, 05:19 PM
http://picture.funnyjunk.com/pics/scaredkitty.jpg
LMFAO................

Low Life
10-29-2004, 06:07 PM
thank you Texas Heat. I was about to make that point.

Jagsbch
10-29-2004, 06:14 PM
Jags got 6 sacks against KC should have been 7, and 1 against the Colts should have been 2. With 16 sacks already this season Carr is in route to get sacked 3 times Sunday? :hehe:

jagsfanincanada
10-29-2004, 10:34 PM
I love how you all say we beat up on the Colts because their defense sucks. You guys are what, 27th in defense yourselves?

Jags 28
Texicans 21

jagsfanincanada
10-29-2004, 10:35 PM
This is one of those times that the raw overall stat doesn't adequately reflect the recent team performance. We got torched on 3rd downs the 1st two games so we have been digging out of a hole for the full season stats. But looking more recently--Oakland 38% (right at middle of the league), Minnesota 54% (but then again they have torched everyone for 50+%) and Titans 31% (well above average). Basically they are moving in the right direction.

Who cares? By that logic, the Jags offense has been digging out of a whole from the first three games. Over the last 4 games I bet our offense is top 5 in the league.

TexansTrueFan
10-29-2004, 11:08 PM
Who cares? By that logic, the Jags offense has been digging out of a whole from the first three games. Over the last 4 games I bet our offense is top 5 in the league.


Any bone head can see we got the more high powered offense and with D. Davis finally healthy for the first time in 3 weeks yall had better watch out !!! And dont even bring up stats to me cause we all know they dont mean sh** !!!!!

jagsfanincanada
10-30-2004, 01:29 AM
I'm glad Davis is playing. What defense doesn't like to recover a few fumbles?

Rosusu
10-30-2004, 02:44 PM
My first official prediction of the season...

Texans 35
Jags 28

Doube D comes back big after the injury with 2tds and AJ, Gaff, and Armstrong all have a big day. Maybe I will throw in a defensive td too.

Jagrams
10-30-2004, 07:13 PM
Jaguars 23
Texans 20

It may turn out to be a shootout in Houston, but I have a feeling it will be a headbanger. Our two teams will be aiming to win this one because of the implications so I see a close finish.

Isn't it great to have two young teams on the rise in the AFC South? :D

Here's to a great game.

texansfan88
10-30-2004, 07:23 PM
I love how you all say we beat up on the Colts because their defense sucks. You guys are what, 27th in defense yourselves?

Jags 28
Texicans 21
lol you're from canada

JustBonee
10-30-2004, 07:37 PM
lol you're from canada
???? Texan fans in Canada too. Is that funny to you also??
idonno:
I think it's really nice myself.

Jagsbch
10-30-2004, 07:39 PM
35-27 Jags
Jimmy Smith 2 TD's 125 yards

texansfan88
10-30-2004, 07:39 PM
no no no, hes said jags something and TEXICANS some score

if he wants to crack jokes, i'll point something out to him

kuno
10-30-2004, 08:54 PM
Well here is one way to look at it.

our strength is our passing game.. and your passing defense is 22nd in the league.

Above you is Tennessee and Oakland.. 2 teams we have beaten. Below you is Detroit and San Diego.. the first two teams we played and lost too, but honestly most texans fans arent counting those games since we were not "ourselves" at that time.

Also below you is Minnesota.. who beat us on the strength of their offense.. but just barely.

you have a great run defense.. but at this point our running game only has to be good enough to make you consider it.. not be dominant. And it is good enough to do that.

So.. if you think about it. We have played 2 of the best offenses in the game in Minnesota and KC... beating one and almost beating the other.. your offense is not close to theirs (you are 15th, they are 1st and 5th) And we have played two passing defenses above yours, and won.

SO.. looking at it from a statistical standpoint.. we have you beat on both offense and defense.

Now.. to be fair, lets look at it from your standpoint.

You have played against one passing offense better than ours, Indi, and won. You have also played alot of rushing offenses better than ours, KC, SD, Ten, Indi, and Denver (btw, did you know we have a higher ranked rushing offense than you? we average more yards per game and have 5 tds to your 4)

these teams have a better passing defense than us: KC, Tennessee, Denver, and Buffalo. and EVERY team you played had a better rushing defense than us.

So then.. statistically you could say that we have the worst defense you have come up against.. and are about average as offenses you have played goes.


Here is the kicker though.

We have the "worst" rushing defense.. yet we shut down tennessee who has a rushing offense far bette than yours. we have the worse passing defense.. yet 2 of the teams we beat have a higher passing offense than yours.

SO.. what can we deduce from all this?

stats dont mean ****.. and we are still going to win.


Ummm, that anything can happen? :cool: This is the NFL we all know and love.

kuno
10-30-2004, 08:58 PM
I seriously think the Texans are gonna kick the jaguars butts( i censored myself) I really think we are a better team.

Texans- 37
Jaguars-20

Well, yea! Your a Texans fan arn't ya? I think it is the norm to think your team has the better team...heh

dbo78912
10-30-2004, 08:59 PM
I do believe the Texans shall prevail.

jagsfanincanada
10-30-2004, 10:26 PM
no no no, hes said jags something and TEXICANS some score

if he wants to crack jokes, i'll point something out to him

Point something out like what?

GunnerAU
10-31-2004, 04:48 AM
As I said in the other thread.

Texans 23
Jaguars 21

Go You Texans!

ColdSteelBlue
10-31-2004, 07:28 AM
35-27 Jags
Jimmy Smith 2 TD's 125 yards

AJ. 2 TDs 180yds
Armstrong 1TD 105yds :boxing: