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TXurias
03-19-2007, 10:18 PM
Does anyone know what's his story? Will he be playing WR for us next year?

TexansSB07
03-19-2007, 10:29 PM
Does anyone know what's his story? Will he be playing WR for us next year?


his strength is not at WR, but as KR...he is blazing fast and has ability to make people miss...whether he recovers well enough to play for Texans in 2007 remains to be seen

ATX
03-19-2007, 10:31 PM
When healthy, he's a huge asset. He came out of nowhere 2 seasons ago and lit it up. He was the best part of the 2-14 season IMO.

DocBar
03-19-2007, 10:33 PM
When healthy, he's a huge asset. He came out of nowhere 2 seasons ago and lit it up. He was the best part of the 2-14 season IMO.
I kinda thought Mario and Demeco were the best things to come from the 2-14 season...but that's just my opinion...

Daonly
03-19-2007, 10:34 PM
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keyfro
03-19-2007, 10:37 PM
jerome mathis is a huge asset to this team when he's healthy...personally i think if he can stay healthy he might turn into something more than just a kick returner...the has the potential to be a pretty darn good deep threat at WR...something we really don't have yet...also if we used him on the screen passes with his vision and speed he could turn some 5 yd gains into 30+ yd touchdowns

TXurias
03-19-2007, 10:45 PM
I'm a big fan of Mathis and hope he's healthy for next year. Do you know what's bothering him now? Is it his ankle? I think he could be a huge relief for Dre and we can focus on taking Landry in the first and take best OL in 2nd or Kevin Kolb.

HOOK'EM
03-19-2007, 10:50 PM
[QUOTE=DocBar;631512]I kinda thought Mario and Demeco were the best things to come from the 2-14 season...but that's


Mario and Demeco were not here during the 2-14 season!

hot pickle
03-19-2007, 10:54 PM
but we got them because of that 2-14 season

Hervoyel
03-19-2007, 10:54 PM
[quote=DocBar;631512]I kinda thought Mario and Demeco were the best things to come from the 2-14 season...but that's


Mario and Demeco were not here during the 2-14 season!


Of course they weren't. The 2-14 season resulted in the high draft picks that netted them and that's what he means.

keyfro
03-19-2007, 11:00 PM
[QUOTE=TXurias;631521]I'm a big fan of Mathis and hope he's healthy for next year. Do you know what's bothering him now? Is it his ankle? I think he could be a huge relief for Dre...QUOTE]

jerome like many other speedsters was hampered by a hamstring problem during the season and he was recovering from his motorcycle accident during pre-season

cj5776
03-19-2007, 11:01 PM
I think when Kubes stated he does not want to depend on anyone injuried, Spencer and Mathis were the people he was refering to. I do think this coaching staff can turn him into a wr but I don't see him being counted on and he will have to fight for a spot. Either through the draft or a trade another speed wr will be added. He is about as unproven as it gets, from both a health and receiving stand point.

Rex King
03-19-2007, 11:04 PM
jerome mathis is a huge asset to this team when he's healthy...personally i think if he can stay healthy he might turn into something more than just a kick returner...the has the potential to be a pretty darn good deep threat at WR...something we really don't have yet...also if we used him on the screen passes with his vision and speed he could turn some 5 yd gains into 30+ yd touchdowns

I think you have a good point about getting him in space, instead of just deep routes, something they never did in 05. I don't want to turn this into a draft thread, but that's what bothers me about Ginn as a pick (in the first round). He has some good moves, but he's not human joystick shifty like Hall, Bush, or Hester. If you plan on using Ginn like that, then why not just expand Mathis' role? Both guys need development as WR's (hands, route running). I guess one thing Ginn has on him is that he doesn't have Mathis' injury history, but I really hope they haven't given up on Mathis as a WR.

Ole Miss Texan
03-19-2007, 11:11 PM
I think you have a good point about getting him in space, instead of just deep routes, something they never did in 05. I don't want to turn this into a draft thread, but that's what bothers me about Ginn as a pick (in the first round). He has some good moves, but he's not human joystick shifty like Hall, Bush, or Hester. If you plan on using Ginn like that, then why not just expand Mathis' role? Both guys need development as WR's (hands, route running). I guess one thing Ginn has on him is that he doesn't have Mathis' injury history, but I really hope they haven't given up on Mathis as a WR.

not trying to turn this into a draft thread either but...Ginn hasn't run since the national championship game when he injured his ankle....could turn into a long term injury of constantly getting aggravated.

i dont think mathis runs very crisp routes...but using him in some screen passes would be awesome, i would love to watch that. i can also see some sweet 'fake' screens that throw the defense off and we get the ball to andre on the other side of the field...or our RB runs for a big gain the opposite side as well....as team see when mathis is in the game..it probably means its a short quick pass to him...he could be our decoy but for cheaper..lol

t_flare
03-19-2007, 11:12 PM
he's not a WR... he cant run routes and he has below average hands.. If he couldnt beat out Derrick Armstrong or Gaffney then whats makes you think he is better than Kevin Walters?

He is a Daunte Hall... KR only...WR in 5 WR set only where he would just run straight.

D-ReK
03-19-2007, 11:15 PM
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this is by far the best post in this thread...

i applaud you, good sir...

Rex King
03-19-2007, 11:27 PM
he's not a WR... he cant run routes and he has below average hands.. If he couldnt beat out Derrick Armstrong or Gaffney then whats makes you think he is better than Kevin Walters?

He is a Daunte Hall... KR only...WR in 5 WR set only where he would just run straight.

You may be right in the end, but how many receivers are NFL-ready after one year? It seems very few take off in their rookie season. He came from a small school. He may not have had the best coaching (not that big schools always prepare their kids well). He may have relied on his speed in the past to beat lesser competition and thus become sloppy with his route running. Is he coachable? I don't know. But I don't want to see him turn into another wasted draft pick just because the coaching staff won't or can't develop him.

Marcus
03-19-2007, 11:29 PM
Mathis may return a few kickoffs when he is healthy. He thinks he's a football player who runs track, but he's really a track man playing football. Durability wise, that's a big difference.

NATHANHALE
03-20-2007, 03:59 AM
he's not a WR... he cant run routes and he has below average hands.. If he couldnt beat out Derrick Armstrong or Gaffney then whats makes you think he is better than Kevin Walters?

He is a Daunte Hall... KR only...WR in 5 WR set only where he would just run straight.


...good point! As I recall, Kubiak was not too happy about Mathis's 'prima donna' attitude that he could do what he wanted because he was all-pro his first year. I hope he recovers like Winslow and not Edwards from his injuries...