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real
03-14-2007, 10:12 AM
The Minnesota Vikings were ranked dead last in passing yards given up per game with 238.6.

If Landry is considered good value for us at 8, is it too much of a stretch to imagine him going at seven ? To THE worst passing defense in the leauge ?

I'm thinking he may be a little more coveted by them than some may think.

:hmmm:

K.D.
03-14-2007, 10:46 AM
Yeah that's a good point on him being coveted by the Vikes. Their problem i think is at the CB position, but like you stated Landry is Top Ten material. As for our team, if Peterson,Landry,Quinn are gone by #8, i really hope a trade down scenario happens.

Vinny
03-14-2007, 11:15 AM
The Vikings had the best rushing defense in the NFL last year so the "worst" pass defense is kind of skewed......nobody could run on them so everyone put the ball in the air.

real
03-14-2007, 11:21 AM
The Vikings had the best rushing defense in the NFL last year so the "worst" pass defense is kind of skewed......nobody could run on them so everyone put the ball in the air.


That's a good point...


I didn't know that...

But with an improved Pass defense, they could become dominant.

gtexan02
03-14-2007, 11:21 AM
or did no one bother running it because there pass defense was so porous?

real
03-14-2007, 11:34 AM
or did no one bother running it because there pass defense was so porous?

:hmmm:

Ole Miss Texan
03-14-2007, 12:10 PM
or did no one bother running it because there pass defense was so porous?

That's kind of what concerns me about the Texans.

Our pass defense is horrible.

If we hold onto the ball on offense more, it forces the other team to be in a situation to pass (whether they are down in score or down in time)

We play right into their hands, teams are forced to pass and eat us up...lol

trutxn
03-14-2007, 01:20 PM
The Vikings need a QB and WR more than anything.

real
03-14-2007, 01:22 PM
Tavaris Jackson is a beast.

real
03-14-2007, 02:08 PM
....uh....i...don't....um...you uh...ca...mmm...see there....ummm....


what?

LOL...


I can be a man and stand by my opinions.

Tavaris Jackson is a beast.

Vinny
03-14-2007, 02:17 PM
or did no one bother running it because there pass defense was so porous?no, if you paid attention last year the Vikings had a historic run defense. Nobody was even close to them at
2.8 yards per rush and 61 total yards per game allowed. They were the only team in the NFL that didn't give up 1000 yards on the ground the entire season.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-RUSHING/2006/regular

Also, they took Jackson with a 2nd round pick last year....most teams taking a 2nd round QB don't expect them to start for 2-3 years. I don't see them taking a QB at all this year.

Blake
03-14-2007, 02:57 PM
I dont work myself up over who is going to take whom right before us. I think once we see the #1-6 pick we will see that multiple players are still available for us to select, and become a better team. Besides, is it such a bad thing to NOT take a safety in the top 10?

I think if Landry does get scooped up, we will still have a quality player available.

Lets say the top 7 teams take the top 7 players. Russell, Johnson, Quinn, Adams, Thomas, Landry, Peterson.

That still leaves: Branch, Okoye, Anderson, and Hall would all still be on the board. And this is a worst case senario.

Face it, we will get a great player at #8, or even better, find a trading partner to trade down with.

trutxn
03-14-2007, 03:41 PM
...Face it, we will get a great player at #8, or even better, find a trading partner to trade down with.

AMEN!

Ole Miss Texan
03-14-2007, 03:44 PM
no, if you paid attention last year the Vikings had a historic run defense. Nobody was even close to them at
2.8 yards per rush and 61 total yards per game allowed. They were the only team in the NFL that didn't give up 1000 yards on the ground the entire season.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-RUSHING/2006/regular

Also, they took Jackson with a 2nd round pick last year....most teams taking a 2nd round QB don't expect them to start for 2-3 years. I don't see them taking a QB at all this year.

lol, vinny, in all honesty, how many people paid attention to the vikings last year.

htownfoozball
03-14-2007, 03:51 PM
if landry is gone, we could hope for meriweather or griffin in the 2nd, and if neither of them are there, weddle, though he'd be a stretch at the top of the 2nd, and then theres michael johnson in the 3rd

Xman
03-14-2007, 04:43 PM
I would be thrilled if Minny took Landry - that means we get one of the top 7 players: either qb/rb/wr/ot/de (I think the two DTs make it a strong top 9 but I think we need DE more)

My order of preference:

1. Joe Thomas - he will be gone - simply because we need a stud OT
2. CJ - he will be gone - don't really need him but he and AJ would be scary
3. Peterson - he is probably gone - a better dickerson
4. Russell - he is likely gone - we need qb - see Quinn
5. Quinn - he is probably gone - but we need a qb and you gotta take chances sometimes - all the arguments about him would apply to Russell if we were picking earlier - or to Palmer/Vick/etc. in whatever year.
6. Gaines Adams- may be there -because a stud DE would hopefully round out our DL.
7. JAnderson - See Adams

Xman
03-14-2007, 04:46 PM
if landry is gone, we could hope for meriweather or griffin in the 2nd, and if neither of them are there, weddle, though he'd be a stretch at the top of the 2nd, and then theres michael johnson in the 3rd

I agree. Griffin/Meri would be great in the 2nd - and t might be worth moving up a little to get one of them. Weddle would be great if we had a low 2nd rdr. Johnson would work in the 3rd (I always forget the name of the last one in the top 6 - but if this is him, he is fast and strong like the other 5 and should very good - if it isnt him then I mean the other guy).

htownfoozball
03-14-2007, 05:18 PM
michael johnson isnt really fast. he's 4.55-4.6 but he has great instincts and can make plays. very good ball skills. if we take him, we need a solid CB in the 2nd.

landry, meriweather, or griffin really opens up the draft for us. id actually prefer meriweather in the 2nd and in the 1st we could take okoye, adams, anderson, brown, peterson, or quinn.

okoye DT
meriweather FS
david irons CB
mike walker WR
datish/henderson/hall/barbre/frye OL
ford DE

that draft fills alot of holes except for LB and DE and QB, however, Okoye frees up Mario and he can apply pressure from the inside, which makes a DE less of a priority early in the draft. I'm pretty much locked on with Mike Walker in the 4th, so a CB in the 3rd is the only choice, which isnt a bad deal because we get good talent to fill a big hole, even though it isnt as big of a priority now that we've got a very good FS in meriweather. the OL in round 5 are all projects with upside to be LT's except for Datish at C. Ford is also a project DE with speed.

texasguy346
03-14-2007, 05:23 PM
lol, vinny, in all honesty, how many people paid attention to the vikings last year.

I think it's fair to say that the Pittsburgh Steelers paid pretty close attention to the Vikings & their defense. They sure picked up Tomlin in a hurry after Cowher "retired".

Ole Miss Texan
03-14-2007, 05:29 PM
I think it's fair to say that the Pittsburgh Steelers paid pretty close attention to the Vikings & their defense. They sure picked up Tomlin in a hurry after Cowher "retired".

Mike Tomlin and his history with defense seems like a good fit for the steelers. Pretty impressive the Vikes didn't allow one 100yd rusher last season?

My whole thought was that not many texans fans paid much attention to the vikings and that's whose mostly on here.

on another note...what's cowher expected to do in the next few years? coach college you think?

texasguy346
03-14-2007, 05:37 PM
The Steeler still own his rights for this coming season, after that he can sign elsewhere. My guess is that he comes back & gets mega bux to coach somewhere after next season. This year he sits back collects a check & plays golf.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I consider myself an NFL fan as well as a Texans fan. I just love football in general. So I tend to watch as much football as I can be it the Texans or any other NFL team.

Ole Miss Texan
03-14-2007, 05:57 PM
The Steeler still own his rights for this coming season, after that he can sign elsewhere. My guess is that he comes back & gets mega bux to coach somewhere after next season. This year he sits back collects a check & plays golf.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I consider myself an NFL fan as well as a Texans fan. I just love football in general. So I tend to watch as much football as I can be it the Texans or any other NFL team.

He could be a good fit for the Raiders imo...Crazy Al might just do that...