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Texans34Life
03-14-2007, 01:01 AM
Texans | S. Barber will visit team Thursday
Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:06:19 -0800

Megan Manfull, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans will visit with free-agent LB Shawn Barber (Eagles) Thursday, March 15. Barber would likely be signed to provide depth at the outside linebacker position.

texman8
03-14-2007, 07:49 AM
Would love to get Antwan Barnes or Zak DeOssie in draft as future teammate for Demeco.

freedoggy77
03-14-2007, 09:03 AM
i hope he signs, he had like 112 tackles in 03.

ArlingtonTexan
03-14-2007, 09:32 AM
i hope he signs, he had like 112 tackles in 03.

that's 4 season ago at the absolute peek of his career. Barber is now a nice back-up who probably won't embarass if you're forced to start him.

hadaad
03-14-2007, 10:09 AM
I'd love to see us get a bunch of respectable guys to compete for the SLB spot. I love DeMeco at MLB and I don't have a problem (money aside) with Greenwood at WLB.

cj5776
03-14-2007, 11:24 AM
is he more sam or will

Texian
03-14-2007, 11:28 AM
Another one for the over the hill gang who plays SLB.

cj5776
03-14-2007, 11:54 AM
I wonder if Anderson and Orr are going to make the final roster, assuming Wong is gone. I can see the benifits of having a true Sams instead of the 3-4 leftover OLBs. I guess late round draft picks will chalenge Polk and Evens for thier spots.

CoachJim
03-14-2007, 12:06 PM
Strong, Middle & Weak-side LBs

B.Diddy
03-14-2007, 12:23 PM
Do you guys think it would be possible to trade david carr and jason Babin for Lance Briggs (since he publictly stated that he will never take another snap with the bears and would rather sit out a season than play for them next year)

hadaad
03-14-2007, 12:28 PM
Or maybe Barber and Carr, if they sign Barber.

Or maybe Zgonina and Carr and Green since they traded away Thomas Jones already. But then they could just give us CedBen too.

No, I don't think so, BDiddy.

Dunta_23
03-14-2007, 01:07 PM
Do you guys think it would be possible to trade david carr and jason Babin for Lance Briggs (since he publictly stated that he will never take another snap with the bears and would rather sit out a season than play for them next year)

Why would they want Babin? They have a rush DE in Mark Anderson and Chicago is fine franchising Briggs....if he doesnt show up he doesnt get paid. The only thing that may interest the Bears is Carr and that is probably for a 2nd day draft pick...not a pro bowl LB...

B.Diddy
03-14-2007, 02:06 PM
Well if im the GM im going to look into getting briggs he already said he wants playmakers plus imagine how nasty our Defense would be if we had Briggs and Ryans @ linebacker

El Tejano
03-14-2007, 02:33 PM
How did Shawn Barber do with the iggles?

Ole Miss Texan
03-14-2007, 02:40 PM
Well if im the GM im going to look into getting briggs he already said he wants playmakers plus imagine how nasty our Defense would be if we had Briggs and Ryans @ linebacker

Wow, could you imagine our Defense with Mario, Demeco, Briggs, Dunta, and then if we go D w/ our 1st rd pick? Branch/Okoye/Landry...that would be awesome.

Lifetime Oiler/Texan Fan
03-14-2007, 03:03 PM
This would be another good backup signing. It also could be a good pick up if one or two of the current starting and back LB become cap casualties.

rickyb
03-14-2007, 05:23 PM
Well if im the GM im going to look into getting briggs he already said he wants playmakers plus imagine how nasty our Defense would be if we had Briggs and Ryans @ linebacker

I have a concern about Briggs: he is leaving the Bears b/c he wants to be "the man". And Urlacher is "the man." What does that say about a man's willingness to put the team above self? And what would that say about his heart if he came to the Texans and realized that a sophomore named Ryans was already our leader on d?

Just some things to think about. A divided house cannot stand.

TheRealJoker
03-14-2007, 05:51 PM
Barber would be a solid addition. Clark's weakness is supposed to be Barber's strength...coverage

TexanSam
03-14-2007, 06:36 PM
He would provide good depth. Nothing flashy, but I'm all for it if we get him at a reasonable price.

thunderkyss
03-14-2007, 06:38 PM
I have a concern about Briggs: he is leaving the Bears b/c he wants to be "the man". And Urlacher is "the man." What does that say about a man's willingness to put the team above self? And what would that say about his heart if he came to the Texans and realized that a sophomore named Ryans was already our leader on d?

Just some things to think about. A divided house cannot stand.

Is that why Briggs is mad??

I thought it had something to do with wanting a long term deal??

I mean 7.2 million is cool & all, but I'd much rather a $12million signing bonus plus a $7.2 million salary to go along with it. The way it stands now, Briggs could play two games next season, and his career.... could be over.

jgl35
03-14-2007, 09:13 PM
How did Shawn Barber do with the iggles?

Shawn resigned last year with the Eagles from Kansas City. He has missed games due to injury both with K.C. and last year with the Eagles. He is not what he once was as a player, but he is a very good back up and a good special teams guy.

What Shawn will bring you is leadership. He is a locker room leader and knows what it takes to win. Smart, knows what it takes to win, and relates that to younger players.

Not everything a player brings to a team shows up in stats.

aproberts03
03-14-2007, 09:14 PM
he would be good pick up to add depth to the linebackers..as long as all his past injuries are taking care of

srstex
03-14-2007, 09:18 PM
This sounds like Wong to me. Good player, wrong side of 30, wrong side of the injury report, but a great guy to have on your team. I say let him sign for min, no guarateed money.

rickyb
03-14-2007, 09:39 PM
Is that why Briggs is mad??

I thought it had something to do with wanting a long term deal??

I mean 7.2 million is cool & all, but I'd much rather a $12million signing bonus plus a $7.2 million salary to go along with it. The way it stands now, Briggs could play two games next season, and his career.... could be over.

I had to dig, but I found it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2796645&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
Money might not be the only reason Briggs wants out of Chicago. He said he wants to be the leader of a team and knows he'll never overtake Brian Urlacher in Chicago.

"I've talked to Brian about it," Briggs told FoxSports.com. "I'm a competitor and I want the same thing he has. I've learned a lot from Brian as a player and a leader and I eventually want to be 'the man' somewhere. I want to be like him and have everything put on me too. Obviously I'll never be able to do that there.

Of course, Clayton then goes on to talk about the money.

Runner
03-14-2007, 10:07 PM
who probably won't embarass if you're forced to start him.

Sold!

Ole Miss Texan
03-14-2007, 10:18 PM
I had to dig, but I found it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2796645&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
Money might not be the only reason Briggs wants out of Chicago. He said he wants to be the leader of a team and knows he'll never overtake Brian Urlacher in Chicago.

"I've talked to Brian about it," Briggs told FoxSports.com. "I'm a competitor and I want the same thing he has. I've learned a lot from Brian as a player and a leader and I eventually want to be 'the man' somewhere. I want to be like him and have everything put on me too. Obviously I'll never be able to do that there.

Of course, Clayton then goes on to talk about the money.

Ain't gonna happen in Houston unless Demeco is part of that trade..in which case I would never watch the Texans again.

thunderkyss
03-14-2007, 10:18 PM
I had to dig, but I found it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2796645&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
Money might not be the only reason Briggs wants out of Chicago. He said he wants to be the leader of a team and knows he'll never overtake Brian Urlacher in Chicago.

"I've talked to Brian about it," Briggs told FoxSports.com. "I'm a competitor and I want the same thing he has. I've learned a lot from Brian as a player and a leader and I eventually want to be 'the man' somewhere. I want to be like him and have everything put on me too. Obviously I'll never be able to do that there.

Of course, Clayton then goes on to talk about the money.

Good find..... Thanks.

Now I can hate him.

Unless he somehow ends up in Steel Blue.

O.G.
03-15-2007, 11:30 AM
Ain't gonna happen in Houston unless Demeco is part of that trade..in which case I would never watch the Texans again.

I second you on that one

keyfro
03-15-2007, 10:04 PM
shawn barber is a guy who could come in with danny clark and help tutor some of our younger guys...if shantee orr is brought back he would be the most to benifit from these guys...orr still has a lot of potential to reach...he still has a ton of room to grow as far as his ability to play the 4-3 OLB position

barber is a guy who runs good...who even though he's getting older is probably a quality guy who could come in to relieve greenwood/clark at the outside positions and you wouldn't see that much of a drop in talent...talent-wise barber has been up there...he doesn't deliever the big hits but he's quick to the ball...doesn't have good hands though...INT's and this guy do not happen...sacks happen every once in awhile but i don't see him being our blitzing LB

coolbrezzeus
03-16-2007, 02:42 AM
Do you think we will sign him , and never heard of him , is he a good LB ?
Just watched it on Nfl Network he was visiting us, and wanted to get everyones thoughts on getting another LB ?

TK_Gamer
03-16-2007, 08:43 AM
Do you think we will sign him , and never heard of him , is he a good LB ?
Just watched it on Nfl Network he was visiting us, and wanted to get everyones thoughts on getting another LB ?

he was a good allaround utility LB for KC but had some injury problems. I dont think he would hurt us any, and prolly good in the locker room.

TEXANRED
03-16-2007, 08:58 AM
he was a good allaround utility LB for KC but had some injury problems. I dont think he would hurt us any, and prolly good in the locker room.

I am smelling a Wali Rainer.

keyfro
03-16-2007, 09:35 AM
I am smelling a Wali Rainer.

haha...the funny thing is that if wali rainer would not have gotten injuried in training camp he could have been on the roster and probably starting at either the SOLB or the MLB...remember demeco took over the middle when he became injuried...originally ryans was backing him up and pushing greenwood

as far as barber is considered...guys he's a back up LB...he would be brought in to provide depth and lower the need of drafting a guy to fill that role...they are obviously wanting more veteran guys on the defense this year as they look for a more offensive draft would be my guess...maybe because they're expecting a young defensive backfield

TEXANS84
03-16-2007, 10:54 AM
Titans | Barber to visit
Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:13:16 -0700

John Murphy, of Yahoo! Sports, reports the Tennessee Titans will meet with unrestricted free-agent LB Shawn Barber (Eagles) Friday, March 16.
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rickyb
03-16-2007, 11:00 AM
Ain't gonna happen in Houston unless Demeco is part of that trade..in which case I would never watch the Texans again.

Roger that.

TexanBacker93
03-16-2007, 03:10 PM
I had to dig, but I found it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2796645&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
Money might not be the only reason Briggs wants out of Chicago. He said he wants to be the leader of a team and knows he'll never overtake Brian Urlacher in Chicago.

"I've talked to Brian about it," Briggs told FoxSports.com. "I'm a competitor and I want the same thing he has. I've learned a lot from Brian as a player and a leader and I eventually want to be 'the man' somewhere. I want to be like him and have everything put on me too. Obviously I'll never be able to do that there.

Of course, Clayton then goes on to talk about the money.

I caught a little of an interview with him. He said he would have no problem staying in Chicago. The number one thing he wants is a long term contract. The contract Clayton mentions was pulled off the table after 2 days and the Bears have since been unwilling to discuss a long term deal. He doesn't want to play with 1 year contracts because if he gets hurt it could hurt his future earnings.

Porky
03-16-2007, 03:36 PM
I caught a little of an interview with him. He said he would have no problem staying in Chicago. The number one thing he wants is a long term contract. The contract Clayton mentions was pulled off the table after 2 days and the Bears have since been unwilling to discuss a long term deal. He doesn't want to play with 1 year contracts because if he gets hurt it could hurt his future earnings.


I don't get why football players somehow feel they are different than the common man. Guess what, if I slip on my way out the door tonight and break my back and can never work again, what do you think happens to me? I don't even have a one yr guarantee much less a long term deal. This guy needs to man up, and quit acting like some kind of spoiled school girl. His me first attitude stinks, and I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.

TEXANRED
03-16-2007, 03:49 PM
I don't get why football players somehow feel they are different than the common man. Guess what, if I slip on my way out the door tonight and break my back and can never work again, what do you think happens to me? I don't even have a one yr guarantee much less a long term deal. This guy needs to man up, and quit acting like some kind of spoiled school girl. His me first attitude stinks, and I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.

Not to mention the 7.2 million is 7 times the amount of money I will make in my life time.

El Tejano
03-16-2007, 04:18 PM
I am trying to remember if Shawn Barber also played for The Bucs and if Barber is a vocal type.

Reason why I want to know if he is a vocal type is because I know he does his job. I just feel Demeco is the same way but kind of quiet. I think he needs a dude with an uplifting spirit out there.

keyfro
03-16-2007, 04:22 PM
shawn barber never played for the bucs your thinking of ronde barber the corner

dirty steve
03-16-2007, 04:32 PM
I am trying to remember if Shawn Barber also played for The Bucs and if Barber is a vocal type.

Reason why I want to know if he is a vocal type is because I know he does his job. I just feel Demeco is the same way but kind of quiet. I think he needs a dude with an uplifting spirit out there.

you mean like Philip Buchanon vocal type? that guy led by example.

thunderkyss
03-16-2007, 06:48 PM
Not to mention the 7.2 million is 7 times the amount of money I will make in my life time.

as a free agent, he'd get at least a $12million bonus, with a $5million salary.

If he takes the wrong kind of injury, that $7.2million could be the last thing he sees.

If he starts to look like an average linebacker, he may not get anything like that in '08. Think Bonzy wells.

Luv Ya Blue 2007
03-16-2007, 10:45 PM
Strong, Middle & Weak-side LBs

You mean "Sally, Molly and Walley LBs

MATRIX
03-16-2007, 11:47 PM
www.houstontexans.com

March 16th, 2007
Free agent linebacker Shawn Barber concluded a two day visit with the Texans Friday. Barber seemed eager to join the Texans...if the numbers are right.

Ryan
03-16-2007, 11:50 PM
www.houstontexans.com

March 16th, 2007

Send him in!

MATRIX
03-16-2007, 11:54 PM
Send him in!


At what price? not sure what he feels his "rate" is, but we don't have a load of money to spend.

South Texan
03-17-2007, 12:09 AM
Hmmm, seeing that he is a "situational" back, maybe he won't want 1'st pick money.

Pass defense seems to be his forte, hope they massage the numbers the right way.

gtexan02
03-17-2007, 12:11 AM
Hmmm, seeing that he is a "situational" back, maybe he won't want 1'st pick money.

Pass defense seems to be his forte, hope they massage the numbers the right way.

This is what we need from a SAM that we didn't get laast year. Someone who can make tackles and doesn't get lost covering his guy in space

dirty steve
03-17-2007, 12:12 AM
try this link for the barber info:
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/index.php?section=News

Vinny
03-18-2007, 01:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYO2Mt3ho8Y

powerfuldragon
03-18-2007, 01:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYO2Mt3ho8Y
i don't want that delusional guy on our team. Eagles? superbowl? hahahaha.

Gman84
03-19-2007, 09:59 AM
Obviously it's a long time since Barber played for the Redskins but I was disappointed when he left the 'Skins. He's an excellent coverage 'backer who plays with a lot of intensity. Not sure how healthy he is now but I'm sure he could be a good contributor in a depth role if the Texans did get him.

El Tejano
03-19-2007, 11:06 AM
Any news on this dude at all?

real
03-19-2007, 11:12 AM
I think he's gonna sign with Vince Young's Titans

real
03-19-2007, 11:14 AM
The Titans had veteran free agent linebacker Shawn Barber in for a visit on Friday. According to Barber’s agent, Brian Mackler, the visit to Tennessee went well, and Barber could make a decision on his future as early as today.

http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cfm?section=7&screen=news&news_id=55214

Exithios
03-19-2007, 12:10 PM
Barber is now a Texan.

http://fflivewire.com/Article.asp?ID=3192007trl8460rm

Paragon Blue
03-19-2007, 12:52 PM
good signing:redtowel:

ThaShark316
03-19-2007, 01:15 PM
He's gonna start folks...mark it down.

Mr. White
03-19-2007, 01:16 PM
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=66316

LB Barber Headed For Houston


March 19, 2007
By CHRIS McPHERSON

Linebacker Shawn Barber will be wearing a new uniform in 2007.

The 6-2, 240-pound free agent outside linebacker has decided to join the Houston Texans after spending two days with the team last week. Barber spent last season in Philadelphia and contributed 60 tackles in the nickel linebacker role despite missing three games due to injuries.

LB Shawn Barber is headed for Houston
A leader in the locker room, Barber was awarded the Jack Edelstein Memorial Award this past season, which is given to the Eagles player "with an uplifting manner, a love for life, and an exceptional sense of humor who makes all with whom he comes in contact with feel good."

The 32-year-old Barber joined the Eagles last year after three seasons in Kansas City. Barber enjoyed his best season in 2003 when he tallied a career-high 141 tackles and five sacks. Injuries hampered his 2004 and 2005 seasons. Barber previously played in Philadelphia in 2002 and had a superb season with 119 tackles, two interceptions including a career-long 80-yard interception return for a touchdown.

Barber began his NFL career with the Washington Redskins as a fourth-round draft pick in 1998. In 105 career games - 76 starts - Barber has 643 tackles, 10 sacks, seven interceptions, 10 forced fumbles and six fumble recoveries.

HOU-TEX
03-19-2007, 01:37 PM
It'll be interesting to see who wins the SAM position between he and Clark. IIRC, Clark was coming to Houston only if he was told he'd have a good shot as the starter. The LB position should be an interesting competition this coming TC. Heck, maybe they both end up starting. One of them could end up beating Greenwood out.:)

El Tejano
03-19-2007, 01:38 PM
Nice. This means LB can go a little further down in the draft. I see a player that is a great mentor for an already solid LB in Demeco and in an overacheiver in Orr and Greenwood who began to show signs last year.

Specnatz
03-19-2007, 01:57 PM
Another very good signing by Smith.

Porky
03-19-2007, 02:01 PM
It'll be interesting to see who wins the SAM position between he and Clark. IIRC, Clark was coming to Houston only if he was told he'd have a good shot as the starter. The LB position should be an interesting competition this coming TC. Heck, maybe they both end up starting. One of them could end up beating Greenwood out.:)

First, another good signing. Kind of another under the radar signing that adds flexibility and depth to the roster. I like it!

I haven't watched Barber much, but from what I have read, he is better in coverage, while Clark is more of a run stopper, but not so good in coverage. I see a scenerio where Clark starts, and plays on run downs, while Barber comes in and plays in the nickel and dime package. Or might Barber even compete at Will, with Wong competing with Clark at Sam? Or is Wong a goner?

In any case, together, they should help us hold down the LB fort for a yr or so, and allow us to look elsewhere in the draft. They are bandaids, but pretty good ones I think. I wouldn't rule out a second day pick, but unless a big time value drops to us on the first day, I really think we don't look much at LB in April.

alphajoker
03-19-2007, 02:02 PM
Another very good signing by Smith.

Agreed! Also, nice avatar duder.

El Tejano
03-19-2007, 02:09 PM
I wonder what made him choose us over Tennessee?

HuttoKarl
03-19-2007, 02:13 PM
I wonder what made him choose us over Tennessee?

He didn't want to get cut by Pacman.

real
03-19-2007, 02:13 PM
I don't think this is a signing that means LB isn't a focus anymore...Last year we brought in Wali Rainer, Sam Cowart, and we already had Greenwood, and Orr...

But if I'm not mistaken Meco was brought in to compete at Will originally...

We also wen't out and drafted a DE after we signed a DE...Which neither of whom are great on the weakside....



I don't think this is a signing that makes the need for a good young OLB obsolete...JMO.

HOU-TEX
03-19-2007, 02:15 PM
First, another good signing. Kind of another under the radar signing that adds flexibility and depth to the roster. I like it!

I haven't watched Barber much, but from what I have read, he is better in coverage, while Clark is more of a run stopper, but not so good in coverage. I see a scenerio where Clark starts, and plays on run downs, while Barber comes in and plays in the nickel and dime package. Or might Barber even compete at Will, with Wong competing with Clark at Sam? Or is Wong a goner?

In any case, together, they should help us hold down the LB fort for a yr or so, and allow us to look elsewhere in the draft. They are bandaids, but pretty good ones I think. I wouldn't rule out a second day pick, but unless a big time value drops to us on the first day, I really think we don't look much at LB in April.

Agreed! I'm kind of on the fence with Wong. IIRC, someone had previously posted his cap situation being a wash this season. Meaning, he'd cost us the same (capwise) if cut. If that is the case and I'm not mistaking him for someone else, then we'd keep him for competition and/or depth. Then again we cut Moulds, which didn't help the cap.:shrug:

run-david-run
03-19-2007, 02:16 PM
I don't get why football players somehow feel they are different than the common man. Guess what, if I slip on my way out the door tonight and break my back and can never work again, what do you think happens to me? I don't even have a one yr guarantee much less a long term deal. This guy needs to man up, and quit acting like some kind of spoiled school girl. His me first attitude stinks, and I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.

How often do you get hurt at work? Compare that to how many times football players get hurt. And by the way, they do it because they can. 31 other teams would love to have Briggs at LB and give him a long deal, and it might only take a second round pick to get him.

TheTim5125
03-19-2007, 02:29 PM
I have a feeling Wong is going to be a june 1st cut.

GP
03-19-2007, 02:32 PM
I don't think this is a signing that means LB isn't a focus anymore...Last year we brought in Wali Rainer, Sam Cowart, and we already had Greenwood, and Orr...

But if I'm not mistaken Meco was brought in to compete at Will originally...

We also wen't out and drafted a DE after we signed a DE...Which neither of whom are great on the weakside....



I don't think this is a signing that makes the need for a good young OLB obsolete...JMO.

IMO, Demeco/Clark/Barber are better than Rainer/Cowart/Greenwood

Only Greenwood out of that latter bunch is worthy of playing for anything more than just "depth."

We now have three LBs that I'm comfortable with.

Anybody here who really felt this good about Rainer/Cowart/Greenwood during the offseason? I didn't. I was underwhelmed to say the least.

I like the two new additions to the LB group.

Good job, Rick Smith.

joshri
03-19-2007, 02:36 PM
Did Barber actually sign or is he thinking about it?

Wolf
03-19-2007, 02:38 PM
Texans | Barber deal not complete
Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:26:15 -0700

Updating previous reports, John Murphy, of Yahoo! Sports, reports the Houston Texans have not yet completed a deal with LB Shawn Barber (Eagles). The two sides are actively working on a deal, but nothing has been officially finalized.


Texans | Team signs S. Barber
Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:27:55 -0700

Chris McPherson, of PhiladelphiaEagles.com, reports the Houston Texans have signed LB Shawn Barber (Eagles). Details of the contract were not disclosed.


http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

real
03-19-2007, 02:40 PM
IMO, Demeco/Clark/Barber are better than Rainer/Cowart/Greenwood

Only Greenwood out of that latter bunch is worthy of playing for anything more than just "depth."

We now have three LBs that I'm comfortable with.

Anybody here who really felt this good about Rainer/Cowart/Greenwood during the offseason? I didn't. I was underwhelmed to say the least.

I like the two new additions to the LB group.

Good job, Rick Smith.

I'm not disagreeing with you in your thought process...

I'm just saying that the Texans thought process is probably different...

If you think about last years draft the only position we picked where we hadn't signed a free agent was Tackle, and technically RB...

We brought in Rainer and Cowart...Drafted Meco rd. 2...

Biggest aquissition was Weaver....Drafted Mario #1 overall...

I don't think one year is enough of a sample to say it's their pattern, I'm just saying I don't see this as the type of signing that will deter us from drafting a LB, especially given what they did last year...

joshri
03-19-2007, 02:44 PM
Texans | Barber deal not complete
Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:26:15 -0700

Updating previous reports, John Murphy, of Yahoo! Sports, reports the Houston Texans have not yet completed a deal with LB Shawn Barber (Eagles). The two sides are actively working on a deal, but nothing has been officially finalized.

keyfro
03-19-2007, 02:54 PM
well if he doesn indeed sign with us great...the more quality competition we have at both outside LB positions the better...personally i like the talent in this draft at LB and am kinda dissapointed that it appears LB will not be a draft need for us...i think guys like rufus alexander and earl everett who have had poor workouts are still going to light it up in the pros...but as long as the competition continues i can't complain

also with barber he brings another tutor for ryans...as good as this kid is he still needs the veteran guys to show him little things on film and on the field that he hasn't picked up on yet...each veteran guy will bring another piece to the puzzle that is demeco ryans

Dallas_Texan
03-19-2007, 02:54 PM
He's gonna start folks...mark it down.

No way that Merriweather falls to the third. You may as well put AP for our third round pick!! Just kidding, but he is a early second round pick, and there were a ton of people at his pro day, so we may not even get him in the second if there are too many people looking at Free Safety. There are a lot of SS's like Landry, Griffin etc, but only 2 or 3 quality FS's (Nelson, then Merriweather).

Mr. White
03-19-2007, 02:59 PM
Texans | Barber deal not complete
Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:26:15 -0700

Updating previous reports, John Murphy, of Yahoo! Sports, reports the Houston Texans have not yet completed a deal with LB Shawn Barber (Eagles). The two sides are actively working on a deal, but nothing has been officially finalized.

I figured as much. Seems like this is how these signings are going lately.

***edit***
I still think that it'll get done.

Texans34Life
03-19-2007, 03:21 PM
On Sirius NFL Radio, they announced about 30 minutes ago that we signed Barber....that's weird.

Mr. White
03-19-2007, 03:27 PM
On Sirius NFL Radio, they announced about 30 minutes ago that we signed Barber....that's weird.

I think that it's a done deal, just seems like the Texans probably put the brakes on the story for some reason. It's still up on the Philly site.

Ole Miss Texan
03-19-2007, 03:29 PM
So what will our starting LB's most likely by?

D. Clark
S. Barber
D. Ryans
M. Greenwood

who's our MLB....Ryans or Clark?
will demeco move outside?
will it be barber, demeco, greenwood?

what do yall think?

Dunta_23
03-19-2007, 03:38 PM
I think it will be....

SLB- Danny Clark, Shawn Barber
MLB- Demeco Ryans, Danny Clark
WLB- Morlon Greenwood

But it could be

SLB- Demeco Ryans, Shawn Barber
MLB- Danny Clark
WLB- Morlon Greenwood

El Tejano
03-19-2007, 03:38 PM
So did we or didn't we?

bigbrewster2000
03-19-2007, 03:47 PM
So did we or didn't we?

Just heard it on 610, so it is confirmed now.

real
03-19-2007, 03:49 PM
I think it will be....

SLB- Danny Clark, Shawn Barber
MLB- Demeco Ryans, Danny Clark
WLB- Morlon Greenwood

But it could be

SLB- Demeco Ryans, Shawn Barber
MLB- Danny Clark
WLB- Morlon Greenwood

I'm going to go out on a limb and say there's no way they move Meco to SLB...

I could understand WLB, but not SLB...

El Tejano
03-19-2007, 04:00 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and say there's no way they move Meco to SLB...

I could understand WLB, but not SLB...

Demeco should stay at MLB.

Dunta_23
03-19-2007, 04:05 PM
Demeco should stay at MLB.

I agree 100% BUT....Demeco would probably be just as effective anywhere he played and we would probably get the most out of the other guys if Clark was in the middle...regardless of that I want Demeco to stay in the middle as Clark is an upgrade over Orr

gtexan02
03-19-2007, 04:06 PM
The phrase "if it aint broke" comes to mind. I mean seriously this guy doesnt miss a tackle. Why not position him in the spot where he's most likely to get as many chances as possible to make those tackles

Samer
03-19-2007, 04:17 PM
I'm all for the signing if he will help the team out

Dallas_Texan
03-19-2007, 04:18 PM
I think it will be....

SLB- Danny Clark, Shawn Barber
MLB- Demeco Ryans, Danny Clark
WLB- Morlon Greenwood

But it could be

SLB- Demeco Ryans, Shawn Barber
MLB- Danny Clark
WLB- Morlon Greenwood



It will be:
SLB- Danny Clark, Shawn Barber (on passing downs)
MLB- Demeco Ryans
WLB- Morlon Greenwood

mj.
03-19-2007, 04:22 PM
I was under the impression that due to Barber's speed and size he was a WLB not a SLB. So our linebackers would look something like this:

SLB - Orr, Clark
MLB - Ryans, Wong
WLB - Greenwood, Barber

with one of Evans, Polk, or Anderson re-signing as a special teamer.

TEXANS84
03-19-2007, 04:23 PM
Just heard it on 610, so it is confirmed now.

Okey dokey, re-changing the title again.

DRAMA
03-19-2007, 04:24 PM
It will be:
SLB- Danny Clark, Shawn Barber (on passing downs)
MLB- Demeco Ryans
WLB- Paul Posluszny

that's after we trade down a bit!! :victory:

kiwitexansfan
03-19-2007, 04:50 PM
It will be:
SLB- Danny Clark, Shawn Barber (on passing downs)
MLB- Demeco Ryans
WLB- Morlon Greenwood

This makes a lot of sense to me.

I actually like the look of this LB corps. Solid.

It is amazing what swapping out Orr for a couple of guys with specific roles/skills does for my confidence in the defence.

GP
03-19-2007, 04:52 PM
I'm not disagreeing with you in your thought process...

I'm just saying that the Texans thought process is probably different...

If you think about last years draft the only position we picked where we hadn't signed a free agent was Tackle, and technically RB...

We brought in Rainer and Cowart...Drafted Meco rd. 2...

Biggest aquissition was Weaver....Drafted Mario #1 overall...

I don't think one year is enough of a sample to say it's their pattern, I'm just saying I don't see this as the type of signing that will deter us from drafting a LB, especially given what they did last year...

We have to also understand the extremely short timeframe that Kubiak had to work with, and that Casserly was still the "GM" (cough, cough). It must have been like trying to cram for an entire year's worth of course subject in about two weeks' prep time for the big test (training camp)...while also having to put up with a lame duck GM at the same time.

Kubiak probably did the best HE could do with what he was given. I guess he did as good as he could with the LBers we were able to assemble last offseason...so I'll slack up a little because of Kubiak's transition period from the Broncos to the Texans.

Rick Smith didn't come onto the scene until much later, and I'm actually a little encouraged that he's been making some trades and some waiver wire acquisitions (Dayne) that have actually (GASP!) been paying off. Some of us wondered if Smith would be a real GM or just one "in title" only. I think it's becoming clear that Smith is doing his homework and is approaching the GM job with (a) Financial understanding in TODAY'S NFL climate, as well as (b) Grabbing players that fit the coach's system, a system that improved this team by four wins after a dismal 2-14 season a year ago.

DeMeco stays at MLB. They jacked around with Mario for the start of the season, then learned their lesson on re-arranging players. We should expect DeMeco to stay where he's at, IMO.

I like Ryans/Clark/Barber, the chemistry looks lethal to me. I like the other guys for depth purposes.

If we could pull off one more free agent acquisition (a productive/effectiveDB) I'd be happy going into the draft.

Our secondary worries me. Always has.

Ckw
03-19-2007, 05:02 PM
I apologize if this is a kind of dumb question, but what is the main difference in assignments in a weakside and strongside linebacker? Not even so much the main just what are the differences? My understanding is strongside are mostly your blitzing, non-coverage linebackers, but any other details would be appreciated.

sangien
03-19-2007, 05:09 PM
SLB normally covers the TE

Texan in Japan
03-19-2007, 05:19 PM
Good signing...RS continues the trend of adding quality vets to compete.

AtheGreat
03-19-2007, 05:23 PM
If we could pull off one more free agent acquisition (a productive/effectiveDB) I'd be happy going into the draft.


sorry to digress, but who else is left in the FA DB wise. Has Hamlin signed anywhere yet?

I do like that we got some more depth becuase you never know what position that injury bug will bite this coming year.

aproberts03
03-19-2007, 05:36 PM
good pickup hopefully he won't have any injuries this season and can add some depth

281
03-19-2007, 05:49 PM
good signing. i like rick smith's approach:


don't overspend in FA when you don't have the money

build good depth on a team that's SEVERELY lacking it, with solid veterans both on and off the field

build mainly through the draft

cut overpaid dead weight


if the danny clark signing didn't make it obvious, then this sure does... wong is a stanford graduate, so i'm guessing he'll be smart enough to have his bags packed by june 1st.

keyfro
03-19-2007, 05:56 PM
i still think this is funny yet another thread over whether or not we should move demeco...wasn't last year good enough for some of ya'll?...isn't it obvious that he can handle the MLB position?

gtexan02 The phrase "if it aint broke" comes to mind.

totally agree

i think the other thing that gets people thinking we're moving demeco is that they remember danny clark playing the MLB position in oakland and having success...but he also had success playing the SLB position in jacksonville so why not let him try to beat out shantee orr who struggled a bit to cover the TE's in our division?

as far as barber is concerned his role has really yet to be seen...and probably won't be determined until we are into training camp...which should be the same with danny clark...but demeco ryans is our starting MLB...and that's the bottom line because so and so said so

281
03-19-2007, 06:00 PM
yeah, anyone who thinks demeco is getting moved outside is NUTS. he's a sure thing at his position (MLB)... can't say the same for the majority of the spots on the team. i'm starting to think that this regime tends to favor performance over potential a lot more than previous "excuse" for one... and i like that.

Overalls
03-19-2007, 06:09 PM
Not an earth shaking move, but i do think our team has up graded the LB spot this off season.

Ole Miss Texan
03-19-2007, 06:10 PM
I'm all for having the best 3 LB's out there that play as a unit...and produce together the most for the team. If it makes our team that much better to move demeco to OLB I'm fine with that. If it makes our team worse..than no way jose.

Demeco filled in to the MLB position awesomely. He is the leader of our defense and MLB is a great spot for him....

TheRealJoker
03-19-2007, 06:19 PM
I believe Barber will be utilized in the same way he was in Philly last year. As the nickel linebacker who only comes in during passing situations. He tallied up 60 tackles in 13 games utilized in this role. I think Orr only registered 36 tackles as our starting SAM...

Clark on running downs and Barber on passing downs is a recipe for success imo. :dance2:

TXurias
03-19-2007, 10:01 PM
Another great veteran pick up. Now we just need some help for Robinson in the secondary!!! Hopefully Laron!

Stampede
03-20-2007, 08:21 AM
Added free agents Barber and Green. Resigned Brunner and Dayne. If the Texans can add Sammy Baugh, Red Grange, and Jim Thorpe they will dominate the "Senior Bowl".

OLD GUYS RULE! ....but, some of these guys are uh...beyond old...

HOU-TEX
03-20-2007, 02:25 PM
According to ESPN, it's a done deal. We're definetly bringing in the competition.:)

The contract is for three years and about $5 million. Barber chose the Texans over the Tennessee Titans after visiting last week with officials from both teams.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2804716

El Tejano
03-20-2007, 02:32 PM
I wonder what Eagle fans have to say about him.

HOU-TEX
03-20-2007, 02:34 PM
I wonder what Eagle fans have to say about him.

I'm not sure about the fans but the Eagles organization seemed to like his personality in the locker room. From the link above.

Barber is also noted as a positive presence in the locker room and in 2006 he earned the Jack Edelstein Memorial Award, presented to the Eagles' player who exemplifies "an uplifting manner, a love for life, and an exceptional sense of humor."

Mr. White
03-20-2007, 02:41 PM
I wonder what Eagle fans have to say about him.

I haven't read the thread yet, but here's (http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.php?showtopic=427009) a link. You might have to register on their site.

TEXANS84
03-20-2007, 02:41 PM
I wonder what Eagle fans have to say about him.

Actually, his strength WAS rushing the passer. Hes not the pass rusher he used to be. He is a great cover linebacker though. Im not sure what capacity hes going to serve in for the Texans but he was a great nickel backer for us.
http://www.pigskinheaven.com/forums/showpost.php?p=400065&postcount=6

Mr. White
03-20-2007, 02:46 PM
I haven't read the thread yet, but here's (http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.php?showtopic=427009) a link. You might have to register on their site.

Just read it. For Eagles fans, they've got some pretty good stuff to say about him. There were a few "who cares" in the thread, but that's to be expected on their board.

TexansSeminole
03-20-2007, 02:58 PM
An Eagles fan friend of mine says that he is injury prone but he is a good nickel linebacker...not a runstopper at all.

keyfro
03-20-2007, 03:02 PM
pretty decent contract for a 9 yr veteran...probably will only see year one of the deal maybe two

HOU-TEX
03-20-2007, 03:05 PM
Here's a thread I started on the Eagles board. I think you might have to sign up. It seems some of them think they've lost thier best LB. Others seem to think he'd be better utilized on 3rd down situations. Bad knees, can't stay healthy for a full season. IMO, if we do only use him as a nickel backer, it's a good signing.:dance2:

http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.php?showtopic=427290

O.G.
03-20-2007, 04:08 PM
Demeco should stay at MLB.

I second that. Don't try to fix what isn't broken.

Texans34Life
03-20-2007, 04:22 PM
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/statsid/s4342.jpg

Raising the People's eyebrow!

http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/10281000/10281238.jpg

281
03-20-2007, 04:49 PM
http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/statsid/s4342.jpg

Raising the People's eyebrow!

http://images.art.com/images/products/regular/10281000/10281238.jpg

yeah, i noticed that... (why isn't there a normal laughing avatar..?)

Texans34Life
03-20-2007, 09:40 PM
Texans | Barber to have multiple roles
Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:22:58 -0700

John Murphy, of Yahoo! Sports, reports the Houston Texans LB Shawn Barber is expected to fill a number of roles, including those of backup to LB Morlon Greenwood and LB Shantee Orr.

FILO_girl
03-21-2007, 02:15 PM
I read on MSN that we got him yesterday but see no thread...I had to have missed it.....