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Maverick864
03-11-2007, 12:49 PM
ESPN The Blitz just reported that the McNair and Al Davis are in discussions of a proposed trade that would send David Carr and our #8 pick to the Raiders for the top overall pick. The deal also included the Texans send their 5th round pick to the Raiders for their 6th round pick. The report is that the Texans have their sites on Calvin Johnson. If this trade goes through, it looks like the Texans would draft Johnson to start opposite of Andre Johnson and look to draft Ryan Kalil (USC, Center) of Reggie Nelson (Florida, Safety) in the second round and go quarterback in round 3 (Kolb or Stanton).

gtexan02
03-11-2007, 12:51 PM
Wow, just wow.

Can we even afford to have 2 back to back 1st round picks on the team?

If yes, and if we can get CJ, WOW! We'd have the best WR tandem in the NFL

macaronitoni
03-11-2007, 12:51 PM
Al Davis isn't even that stupid. Its all speculation...we won't move anywhere in the draft.

Grid
03-11-2007, 12:52 PM
Calvin Johnson?....hmm... that sounds really neat and all..but it smacks of the Lions.

mexican_texan
03-11-2007, 12:52 PM
I just tuned in and the breaking news is still Chris Simon's suspension, so I'm guessing its just speculation.

BleedTheBurntOrange
03-11-2007, 12:53 PM
Id take this deal in a heartbeat and take CJ to make the best young WR tandem in the NFL.

I like how were not giving up any other first day picks as well jus a 5th for their 6th. Not a bad trade off

Of course just speculation but good speculation IMO

HoustonFrog
03-11-2007, 12:53 PM
ESPN The Blitz just reported that the McNair and Al Davis are in discussions of a proposed trade that would send David Carr and our #8 pick to the Raiders for the top overall pick. The deal also included the Texans send their 5th round pick to the Raiders for their 6th round pick. The report is that the Texans have their sites on Calvin Johnson. If this trade goes through, it looks like the Texans would draft Johnson to start opposite of Andre Johnson and look to draft Ryan Kalil (USC, Center) of Reggie Nelson (Florida, Safety) in the second round and go quarterback in round 3 (Kolb or Stanton).

Wow. That's all I want to say right now. IMHO, it makes more sense than the other possibilities....other than I'm not sure if Calvin would be my pick despite his incredible ability and can't miss talent....and I'm nto sure if the Raiders would actualy take this.

gtexan02
03-11-2007, 12:54 PM
Aww man, you got me all excited.
Heres how I know it won't happen:
Draft Value Chart:
Overall pick #1 - 3,000
Pick #8 - 1,400
Thats a difference in 1,600 points, or the equivelant of the #6 overall pick.

So doing this would in essence be like Washington trading us Carr for the #6 overall choice. We'd be getting a 1st for Carr

So if by some miracle we could pull this off and then trade down to like 10-15 and pick up a bunch of extra draft choices, it'd be incredible

mexican_texan
03-11-2007, 12:54 PM
http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-09/25249353.jpg

MATRIX
03-11-2007, 12:54 PM
Al Davis isn't even that stupid. Its all speculation...we won't move anywhere in the draft.


Maybe he s, he is getting older.

That said, if we trade Carr to them who throws the ball to Johnson & Johnson? The waterboy?

El Amigo Invisible
03-11-2007, 12:56 PM
What team is Oklahomer playing?

Farough
03-11-2007, 12:56 PM
I just can't see that ever happening

mexican_texan
03-11-2007, 12:57 PM
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Tampa Bay in a trade. It would make the most sense.

gtexan02
03-11-2007, 12:57 PM
It would be the best move ever. I would forgive the Raiders for screwing us with P-burnt

Malloy
03-11-2007, 12:57 PM
Oakland owes us for the P-buc deal :)

Wolf
03-11-2007, 12:57 PM
http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-09/25249353.jpg

that isn't even funny MT

gtexan02
03-11-2007, 12:58 PM
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Tampa Bay in a trade. It would make the most sense.
Except that they really want CJ and Oakland doesnt

Rusk
03-11-2007, 12:58 PM
What team is Oklahomer playing?

In that picture? That's UAB.

El Amigo Invisible
03-11-2007, 01:00 PM
I would love to pick up CJ. I just do not know who is going to throw to him and Andre. If you guys say Sage.....you will be cursed.

SamuraiSword
03-11-2007, 01:00 PM
Maybe he s, he is getting older.

That said, if we trade Carr to them who throws the ball to Johnson & Johnson? The waterboy?

Yes at least the waterboy was a playmaker........

DomDavis
03-11-2007, 01:00 PM
I'm sure this is speculation by some radio host... nothing more.

Jwwillis
03-11-2007, 01:01 PM
ESPN The Blitz just reported that the McNair and Al Davis are in discussions of a proposed trade that would send David Carr and our #8 pick to the Raiders for the top overall pick. The deal also included the Texans send their 5th round pick to the Raiders for their 6th round pick. The report is that the Texans have their sites on Calvin Johnson. If this trade goes through, it looks like the Texans would draft Johnson to start opposite of Andre Johnson and look to draft Ryan Kalil (USC, Center) of Reggie Nelson (Florida, Safety) in the second round and go quarterback in round 3 (Kolb or Stanton).

NOW THAT WOULD BE A GOOD MOVE!! ....it'll never happen

nunusguy
03-11-2007, 01:06 PM
In your dreams !
Back to reality. The Raiders have got to be a candidate for Carr, whether they use their top pick on Russel (or Quinn), or not. You know the Texans would move him in a heartbeat for Oaklands 3rd rounder, probably their 4th rounder since they draft first. But the big issue is, are they willing to assume Carr's contract ? If not, they will wait for him to be cut.
Had the Texans extended Carr for just 2 and not 3 years, it would help
them now in moving DC. But when they screwed it up last year, they really screwed it up.

Honoring Earl 34
03-11-2007, 01:07 PM
Carr and 8th pick to Oakland for 1st and whatever .

1st overall pick to Tampa for Plummer and the 4th pick .

Well .... why not .

Ole Miss Texan
03-11-2007, 01:09 PM
In your dreams !
Back to reality. The Raiders have got to be a candidate for Carr, whether they use their top pick on Russel (or Quinn), or not. You know the Texans would move him in a heartbeat for Oaklands 3rd rounder, probably their 4th rounder since they draft first. But the big issue is, are they willing to assume Carr's contract ? If not, they will wait for him to be cut.
Had the Texans extended Carr for just 2 and not 3 years, it would help
them now in moving DC. But when they screwed it up last year, they really screwed it up.

I really want to know what they were thinking last year. 3 year extension with an $8 mil signing bonus...just to get rid of him the next year?! or just to see if he can improve over the 2006 season!? doesn't add up to me.

TexanSam
03-11-2007, 01:09 PM
I think the Raiders fans would revolt if that would happen. As for me, I'd be as giddy as a schoolgirl! I hope it happens but I'm not keeping my hopes up. If it ends up being true though, well we can say we got the Raiders back for the P-Buch deal.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
03-11-2007, 01:09 PM
I wish one of the mods would just lock this thread up already since we already know it's BS.

Wolf
03-11-2007, 01:11 PM
I think the Raiders fans would revolt if that would happen. As for me, I'd be as giddy as a schoolgirl! I hope it happens but I'm not keeping my hopes up. If it ends up being true though, well we can say we got the Raiders back for the P-Buch deal.

not sure Raiders were used to Aaron Brooks last season, maybe we catch the Raiders in rebound mode :heh:

jaayteetx
03-11-2007, 01:12 PM
I wish one of the mods would just lock this thread up already since we already know it's BS.

Ya, waaaay to good to be true.

mikey21
03-11-2007, 01:12 PM
not that this trade would even happen, but lets say it did, if i were the texans i would trade up and then trade back and grab more picks and still be able to grab maybe landry or branch or okoye or some other high quality player, if this were to happen it would truly show how much better this front office is compared to casserly and bunch, but hey this is all fantasy right ? :)

D-Vizzl
03-11-2007, 01:12 PM
We have one of the more dominant recievers in the league already, so this makes no sense. You all can rationalize this all you want to but if my name was Andre Johnson and I played for the Houston Texans and they took a WR with the # 1 overall pick, then what am I supposed to think? I would want out because the writing is on the wall IMO, you don't take an electrifying #1 reciever and slot him in for 35-60 catches a year, square peg, round hole.

A # 2 reciever is just that and there are other more logical moves that can be made than this one, and at the same time grab a field stretcher in a later round. BTW I am a Buccaneer fan also so......., this just can't happen.

Ole Miss Texan
03-11-2007, 01:13 PM
not sure Raiders were used to Aaron Brooks last season, maybe we catch the Raiders in rebound mode :heh:

has Aaron Brooks signed anywhere yet? If he signs here i will probably shoot myself..that dude is worse than Carr with one hand behind his back.

gtexan02
03-11-2007, 01:14 PM
Harrison and Wayne are both #1s, both annually catching for over 1,000 yards. When you have the talent, you utilize it. AJ + CJ would be unstoppable

HoustonFrog
03-11-2007, 01:15 PM
I really want to know what they were thinking last year. 3 year extension with an $8 mil signing bonus...just to get rid of him the next year?! or just to see if he can improve over the 2006 season!? doesn't add up to me.

The way I see it is that in order to get the Texans job you had to say you could make him into a special QB. Once Kubiak got a year with him he realized that there are many things that cannot be fixed. So now you get rid of him, get something for him and you save 5 mill for the future even though you have a hit now.

Jwwillis
03-11-2007, 01:18 PM
not that this trade would even happen, but lets say it did, if i were the texans i would trade up and then trade back and grab more picks and still be able to grab maybe landry or branch or okoye or some other high quality player, if this were to happen it would truly show how much better this front office is compared to casserly and bunch, but hey this is all fantasy right ? :)

This is kinda like talking about what you would do with Texas Loto money if you won.

D-Vizzl
03-11-2007, 01:19 PM
Harrison and Wayne are both #1s, both annually catching for over 1,000 yards. When you have the talent, you utilize it. AJ + CJ would be unstoppable

Right now we don't have Peyton or even Trent Green throwing to them, so to me it's not worth it right now. Other positions are needed, and we just don't run that kind of offense. I am trying to be nice about this but hands down if it isn't to get more draft picks this would be a pretty stupid trade on our part.

mikey21
03-11-2007, 01:21 PM
yea that or if you were playing madden, its wishful thinking but we all know it will never happen

nunusguy
03-11-2007, 01:21 PM
I really want to know what they were thinking last year. 3 year extension with an $8 mil signing bonus...just to get rid of him the next year?! or just to see if he can improve over the 2006 season!? doesn't add up to me.

Of course I dunno, but I think McNair was really too close, personally, with DC. And then you had Casserly who was apparently also looking at Carr thru
rose colored glasses, for whatever reason.
But the contract is really a win-win for DC himself. It probably insulates him
from being traded and therefor going someplace he might not want to, yet there's still a nice chunk of guaranteed money for him if they cut him and he's left to negotiate with whomever he chooses.

RTP2110
03-11-2007, 01:22 PM
I'm ok with the trade, but not with CJ as the pick. If your going to go WR at number 1 overall, he is a franchise WR. We already have a franchise WR. Why draft CJ #1 for him to be a #2 WR?

D-Vizzl
03-11-2007, 01:28 PM
Of course I dunno, but I think McNair was really too close, personally, with DC. And then you had Casserly who was apparently also looking at Carr thru
rose colored glasses, for whatever reason.
But the contract is really a win-win for DC himself. It probably insulates him
from being traded and therefor going someplace he might not want to, yet there's still a nice chunk of guaranteed money for him if they cut him and he's left to negotiate with whomever he chooses.

I truly believe that the 2004 season was still dancing around in the front office peoples' heads. I believe he had like 3500 yards a couple more TD's than Int's and a decent record, so where does all that just go? Also let's face it, we men never like to be wrong about anything:bigboss:

D-Vizzl
03-11-2007, 01:31 PM
I'm ok with the trade, but not with CJ as the pick. If your going to go WR at number 1 overall, he is a franchise WR. We already have a franchise WR. Why draft CJ #1 for him to be a #2 WR?

Wow Rationale, like Paul Pierce you the truth patna!!

Marcus
03-11-2007, 01:32 PM
I'm ok with the trade, but not with CJ as the pick. If your going to go WR at number 1 overall, he is a franchise WR. We already have a franchise WR. Why draft CJ #1 for him to be a #2 WR?

That type of logic drops my jaw to the floor. With CJ and AJ as WRs, it would be a matchup nightmare for any defensive coordinator. You'd have to double up on both WRs.

GoTexans
03-11-2007, 01:35 PM
Wow, just wow.

Can we even afford to have 2 back to back 1st round picks on the team?

If yes, and if we can get CJ, WOW! We'd have the best WR tandem in the NFL

and Sage Rosenfels to throw to them. GULP.

nunusguy
03-11-2007, 01:36 PM
I truly believe that the 2004 season was still dancing around in the front office peoples' heads. I believe he had like 3500 yards a couple more TD's than Int's and a decent record, so where does all that just go? Also let's face it, we men never like to be wrong about anything:bigboss:

Good point D-V.
Yea his 3rd year in the 2004 season was definitely his best, and no coincidence I'm sure, also the teams best to date.

Ryan
03-11-2007, 01:36 PM
someone please lock this BS

TexanFan881
03-11-2007, 01:37 PM
Anyone else happen to watch The Blitz today?

I'd be jumping up and down like crazy if this went through.

AJ + CJ = 1 of the Best WR Duos in the NFL

D-Vizzl
03-11-2007, 01:37 PM
That type of logic drops my jaw to the floor. With CJ and AJ as WRs, it would be a matchup nightmare for any defensive coordinator. You'd have to double up on both WRs.

Since Carr hasn't been traded yet I have to include him but, money-wise, DC, Andre, Ahman, Domanick, and a Calvin Johnson would have you with too much money on the offensive end and it always ends with one or two of these people having to be released or traded.

Replace DC with whatever QB we are going to end up overpaying for, and when we release D. Davis, think of the ramifications for just next year. I don't have the numbers on this computer but there would be a ton of dead money next year.

SamuraiSword
03-11-2007, 01:43 PM
ESPN The Blitz just reported that the McNair and Al Davis are in discussions of a proposed trade that would send David Carr and our #8 pick to the Raiders for the top overall pick. The deal also included the Texans send their 5th round pick to the Raiders for their 6th round pick. The report is that the Texans have their sites on Calvin Johnson. If this trade goes through, it looks like the Texans would draft Johnson to start opposite of Andre Johnson and look to draft Ryan Kalil (USC, Center) of Reggie Nelson (Florida, Safety) in the second round and go quarterback in round 3 (Kolb or Stanton).

BTW you forgot to add first time poster long time lurker.......

rmartin65
03-11-2007, 01:43 PM
I think Carr is an average-good quarterback. However, if this is a possibility they got to take it. The options then are endless.

Wolf
03-11-2007, 01:49 PM
http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-09/25249353.jpg

if we trade up.. that is about the only guy I want ..

(if spencer is really not coming back.. i could see a tackle taken, but I am iffy on that.. after all Gallery that Oakland took was supposed to be a really good lineman and he hasn't done much)

TexanSam
03-11-2007, 01:55 PM
someone please lock this BS

It's not like someone said "a source I can't name told me this". It's probably not true, but it was said on NFL Blitz on ESPN. Just ignore the thread if you don't like the rumor.

dirty steve
03-11-2007, 01:56 PM
Anyone else happen to watch The Blitz today?

I'd be jumping up and down like crazy if this went through.

AJ + CJ = 1 of the Best WR Duos in the NFL
i just watched a full 30 minute block of it and there is no mention, much less any draft talk. i think there some serious leg pulling going on.

mike moffat
03-11-2007, 01:57 PM
Ain't gonna happen.

Nawzer
03-11-2007, 02:02 PM
Why is ESPN so desperate to trade Carr????

dwilt72
03-11-2007, 02:04 PM
Why is ESPN so desperate to trade Carr????

Uh...maybe because he can't blame worth a crap?

Navy_Chris
03-11-2007, 02:05 PM
Al Davis isn't even that stupid. Its all speculation...we won't move anywhere in the draft.

What a pessimist you are!

Calvin Johnson would be that explosive addition that we need on offense. I knew receiver would be on our wish list, but I didn't know we wanted Johnson all along. This is great!

michaelm
03-11-2007, 02:06 PM
Time for a Perspective Check..!

This is the third page of replies to a post started by a member who still, even after these three pages, doesn't have a second post on these boards.

If you all want to speculate on unlikely scenarios, I say have a blast, but please stop acting as if this thread is based on anything other than fantasy...

You guys a worse that the dead people in "The Sixth Sense"

"They don't know they're dead... they only see what they want to see..."

MrMeToo
03-11-2007, 02:06 PM
Andre and Calvin Johnson would be great.It seems unlikely but if it did happen :yahoo:

Wolf
03-11-2007, 02:06 PM
Why is ESPN so desperate to trade Carr????

gives them a story and says they were right

extend Carr's contract..no VY ...we get rid of Carr the year after...still no VY and ESPiN can say that the Texans were stupid and ESPiN was right.

:wheel:

supertankman
03-11-2007, 02:06 PM
Man, I dont like it at all; Detroit should be enough evidence that a wide receiver tandem does not make you a better team.

Do you recall them drafting Charles Rogers before Andre Johnson (and where is he playing now?)

They also drafted Roy Williams in edition the following year I believe?

At anyrate, If we are going to trade our franchise QB away, do you not believe that we should get another one to replace him?

Unless they get Plummer in here to throw the ball to those guys, It would be a horrible season again :( I think we take the BPA at #8 and keep Carr for one another year.

dirty steve
03-11-2007, 02:08 PM
What a pessimist you are!

Calvin Johnson would be that explosive addition that we need on offense. I knew receiver would be on our wish list, but I didn't know we wanted Johnson all along. This is great!
i dont think the rumor has any thread of truth to it. the Texans would likely have to give up their #1 + another day one pick and a high pick next year, then have two explosive talents at WR but nobody to throw it to. it doesnt even kind-of make sense. anybody who believes that will work needs to go apply as an understudy for Matt Millen in Detroit.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
03-11-2007, 02:08 PM
Why hasn't a mod locked this thread yet?

Wolf
03-11-2007, 02:08 PM
Time for a Perspective Check..!

This is the third page of replies to a post started by a member who still, even after these three pages, doesn't have a second post on these boards.

If you all want to speculate on unlikely scenarios, I say have a blast, but please stop acting as if this thread is based on anything other than fantasy...

You guys a worse that the dead people in "The Sixth Sense"

"They don't know they're dead... they only see what they want to see..."




I personally don't believe anything that the media is spewing 67 or so days from the draft.. it is a big poker match right now

but It is raining and I don't watch much tv, so it gives me something to talk about :D

Navy_Chris
03-11-2007, 02:12 PM
i dont the rumor has any thread of truth to it. the Texans would likely have to give up their #1 + another day one pick and a high pick next year, then have two explosive talents at WR but nobody to throw it to. it doesnt even kind-of make sense. anybody who believes that will work needs to go apply as an understudy for Matt Millen in Detroit.

Calvin Johnson's THAT good. Would you consider giving up an early round pick next year if that's what we had to do?

DRAMA
03-11-2007, 02:14 PM
You guys a worse that the dead people in "The Sixth Sense"


You a worse that a 2ned gradre speller.

:joker:

FirstTexansFan
03-11-2007, 02:18 PM
You guys a worse that the dead people in "The Sixth Sense"




<whispered> I SEE DUMB PEOPLE :)

BleedTheBurntOrange
03-11-2007, 02:28 PM
Calvin Johnson's THAT good. Would you consider giving up an early round pick next year if that's what we had to do?


Yes and that whole Detroit look at there receivers reply is true to a fault but look at those receivers theyre not as good as johnson and they dont have the character he does.

Charles rodgers is lazy and a drug abuser.

Mike williams is lazy and out of shape.

Only Roy willaims is any good and hes inconsistent.

Calvin johnson has a work ethic second to none and is a great model citizen.

I would give up an early round pick next year or this year for him cause players of his caliber come around only once in a decade so why not solidify WR for 10+ years with johnson&johnson and make secondaries actually scared to play us.

Thats if of course QB gets settled lol

Malloy
03-11-2007, 02:36 PM
Time for a Perspective Check..!

This is the third page of replies to a post started by a member who still, even after these three pages, doesn't have a second post on these boards.

If you all want to speculate on unlikely scenarios, I say have a blast, but please stop acting as if this thread is based on anything other than fantasy...

You guys a worse that the dead people in "The Sixth Sense"

"They don't know they're dead... they only see what they want to see..."


Uhm, the amount of posts are irrelevant if he is just quoting some news outlet.

MATRIX
03-11-2007, 02:37 PM
You a worse that a 2ned gradre speller.

:joker:

I was thinking the same thing.:joker:

powerfuldragon
03-11-2007, 02:38 PM
For reals??!!

Hulk75
03-11-2007, 02:40 PM
Anyone else hear anything about this or this guy full of it, or is it for real. I would love to know, thank you.

Vinny
03-11-2007, 02:41 PM
Anyone else hear anything about this or this guy full of it, or is it for real. I would love to know, thank you.It's a load of bunk....that's my cliff's notes resonse.

Texan_Aggie222
03-11-2007, 02:45 PM
I just saw John Clayton on ESPN about an hour ago and the Texans didn't even make it into the dicussion. They were too busy talking about Donte Stallworth. Whoever posted this is out of their mind. I wouldn't object to the trade though, but it would never happen.

afcman
03-11-2007, 02:49 PM
I've been hearing LOTS that the raiders would like to get Carr. It would not surprise me. But then who are we gonna replace him with?

Lots of.....talk going on. :poker:

threetoedpete
03-11-2007, 02:50 PM
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Tampa Bay in a trade. It would make the most sense.

Because Chucky is in the cat birds seat. No matter who the first three are, he's going to fill a need. And if he really does love Ohkoye as much as reported, he could still move down if he gets offers. He'd be getting great vallue if Petterson and one of the QBs goes off the board in front of him. Chucky's drooling. He's not moving any where.

Vinny
03-11-2007, 02:51 PM
Why hasn't a mod locked this thread yet?
if you don't like it...don't post in it. Pretend it isn't here perhaps.

dirty steve
03-11-2007, 03:03 PM
Calvin Johnson's THAT good. Would you consider giving up an early round pick next year if that's what we had to do?
but you are in cap hell when it comes time to extend CJ, and drafting a WR in the first round still doesnt fill your bigger needs at offensive line and in the defensive backfield. i just think it would be a mistake...you guys have your opinions about other things and i have mine about this. your offensive line is in ALOT worse shape than your WR's.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
03-11-2007, 03:06 PM
That's a very weak copout Vinny. Some random poster starts a thread about some ridiculous trade proposal which has absolutely no legs to stand on and you allow this topic to go on. It's hard to pretend it isn't there when it's been at the top of the forum all day. You of all people should know these types of threads have no place here. Perhaps everyone should start making up ridiculous rumors and posting them here?

supertankman
03-11-2007, 03:17 PM
That's a very weak copout Vinny. Some random poster starts a thread about some ridiculous trade proposal which has absolutely no legs to stand on and you allow this topic to go on. It's hard to pretend it isn't there when it's been at the top of the forum all day. You of all people should know these types of threads have no place here. Perhaps everyone should start making up ridiculous rumors and posting them here?

Well, I think its a very interesting topic regardless of if the rumor is true/false... I was very suprised how many people would love to see Carr traded so the texans could aquire another superstar wideout which made me post my thoughts on the subject. Its crazy to see how bad people want Carr gone!

Kaiser Toro
03-11-2007, 03:18 PM
That's a very weak copout Vinny. Some random poster starts a thread about some ridiculous trade proposal which has absolutely no legs to stand on and you allow this topic to go on. It's hard to pretend it isn't there when it's been at the top of the forum all day. You of all people should know these types of threads have no place here. Perhaps everyone should start making up ridiculous rumors and posting them here?

A ridiculous rumor? The Raiders have many needs, one being QB. Carr is from California. They have been a trading partner with us in the past. Moreover, the thread has only been around since early this afternoon and many people are complaining about a title that poses a question. If people stopped posting in it, espcially those that would like it locked, it usually slips off the fornt page.

Lucky
03-11-2007, 03:20 PM
If people stopped posting in it, espcially those that would like it locked, it usually slips off the fornt page.

Bump :)

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
03-11-2007, 03:22 PM
Yes, it's a ridiculous rumor. Carr and the #8 pick for the #1 overall pick? Please, David Carr doesn't have that much trade value. Isn't it a bit odd that the only person who heard this "proposed trade" was the same person who started the thread and has not posted in it ever since?

Navy_Chris
03-11-2007, 03:25 PM
but you are in cap hell when it comes time to extend CJ, and drafting a WR in the first round still doesnt fill your bigger needs at offensive line and in the defensive backfield. i just think it would be a mistake...you guys have your opinions about other things and i have mine about this. your offensive line is in ALOT worse shape than your WR's.

I agree that OL is a bigger problem. We also need an all star at DT before we need defensive backfield help. I just hope we don't draft Nelson or Landry without getting a dominant run stuffer.

NFLforher
03-11-2007, 03:29 PM
I wish one of the mods would just lock this thread up already since we already know it's BS.

Yup. New poster wants to start another never ending thread.

Malloy
03-11-2007, 03:31 PM
Bump :)

Made me spill coffee :)

powerfuldragon
03-11-2007, 03:37 PM
That's a very weak copout Vinny. Some random poster starts a thread about some ridiculous trade proposal which has absolutely no legs to stand on and you allow this topic to go on. It's hard to pretend it isn't there when it's been at the top of the forum all day. You of all people should know these types of threads have no place here. Perhaps everyone should start making up ridiculous rumors and posting them here?
SBT, you've been around the boards long enough to know that the time preceding the NFL draft is one fraught with speculation and conjecture. Yeah, some of the stuff people come up with is pretty far-out, but sometimes, these goofy things turn out to be true.

Koolaid Time
03-11-2007, 03:39 PM
Ya, waaaay to good to be true.

Someone needs to drop it and step back from the crackpipe....

Al Davis is certifiable if he does this deal..

NFLforher
03-11-2007, 03:40 PM
SBT, you've been around the boards long enough to know that the time preceding the NFL draft is one fraught with speculation and conjecture. Yeah, some of the stuff people come up with is pretty far-out, but sometimes, these goofy things turn out to be true.



Very true. I wish it was just over already and the roster was set. I was just looking at TSN's mock draft and they have Kolb going before Quinn. Who knows? :confused:

NFLforher
03-11-2007, 03:41 PM
Al Davis is certifiable if he does this deal..



And.......??????


:yahoo:

powerfuldragon
03-11-2007, 03:42 PM
I was just looking at TSN's mock draft and they have Kolb going before Quinn. Who knows? :confused:

so casserly is in charge of TSN now?

NFLforher
03-11-2007, 03:43 PM
:laughjump: :laughjump: :laughjump:



so casserly is in charge of TSN now?



Sure looks like it.

GP
03-11-2007, 03:44 PM
Anyone else hear anything about this or this guy full of it, or is it for real. I would love to know, thank you.

The only thing that's for sure is that Al Davis gets what Al Davis wants.

It really is fascinating to see that Al has as much "say" as he does. He is the owner, I understand that, but he can get who he wants. I can't see a modern GM getting Randy Moss, Warren Sapp, and Aaron Brooks and thinking that it works out great in the end. That's Al for you: He cares about the attitude and how it looks to get what he wants...and he wants to show the NFL and other people that he still calls the shots even after all these years.

This is probably what gives this RUMOR its legs: Al Davis would make it happen if he wanted David Carr bad enough.

I don't think Oakland is a good place to be right now, and I would hope that David has a better team to go to than Oakland.

Know this: If Al Davis wants David, I do believe that he'd pull the trigger on this if that's what it took.

Taking CJ is a mistake.

We have o line problems, running back problems, and a legitimate Pro Bowl receiver...with a TE (Daniels) who is coming on strong. So many good o linemen out there to draft, and one really strong RB...but to take another strong WR or an overhyped QB (Quinn) is beyond me.

Maybe we could pull of some great draft picks with this sort of deal, but I think we'd foul it up in the end.

Something is going on, though: We had Plummer talk, then Quinn talk, and now Oakland talk.

Somebody, somewhere, is stirring up the water to either get something done....or to muddy the water a bit to see if anything pokes its head out.

Too much chatter is going on for something to not fall into place.

I wouldn't be surprised to see us trade UP to Oakland's spot...take CJ at No. 1...and then trade him to Tampa Bay for Plummer.

There's too much Tampa Bay/Plummer-Carr-Oakland talk going on. There's a three-way dance here, IMO. Maybe the entire details are getting worked out right now, deciding how closely the three teams can get equal value for the entire trade(s).

But something is going on.

Minnesota is the best spot for David Carr. They had a pretty good running game most of the season, and Childress is doing a fairly good job of rebuilding that team's morals and ethics: David would be a good fit.

gtexan02
03-11-2007, 03:45 PM
I heard the Texans were considering trading Carr + their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounders for the Texans #8 overall pick. Any truth to this rumor?

it makes sense if you think about. The Texans want to dump Carr, and after doing so, they are going to need a QB. Think about it.

Navy_Chris
03-11-2007, 03:49 PM
I heard the Texans were considering trading Carr + their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounders for the Texans #8 overall pick. Any truth to this rumor?

it makes sense if you think about. The Texans want to dump Carr, and after doing so, they are going to need a QB. Think about it.

sarcasm?

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
03-11-2007, 03:50 PM
sarcasm?




No, he heard it on ESPN The Blitz.

Pantherstang84
03-11-2007, 04:22 PM
Bump.:bigboss:

dvs1
03-11-2007, 04:30 PM
I'm lost as to why the Texans were stupid for not using the number one pick last year for a slot receiver, yet if they had the chance they would be stupid to use it on a true number 1 receiver this year?

You are going to line up at least 2 receivers on almost every play so if you have 2 great ones, you've got 2 good starters, it's not like you are drafting a backup. Just like you need more than one good CB to have a good defensive backfield.

As far as AJ "seeing the writing on the wall" he just signed an extension.

Navy_Chris
03-11-2007, 04:32 PM
No, he heard it on ESPN The Blitz.

He said the Texans were talking about trading with the Texans. Did he mistype?

Texas_Thrill
03-11-2007, 04:38 PM
I'm not sure why this would be a problem. I would take this trade in a heartbeat.

You're talking about having to double team Johnson or Johnson and if you double both....Owen Daniels has proved that he can kill you underneath. This would certainly free up our running game for a drastic improvement b/c there is no way someone could put 8 in the box against this duo.

Malloy
03-11-2007, 05:11 PM
you guys need a room, way too much emotion around here :)

Kaiser Toro
03-11-2007, 05:12 PM
you guys need a room, way too much emotion around here :)

Agreed.

RTP2110
03-11-2007, 05:16 PM
That type of logic drops my jaw to the floor. With CJ and AJ as WRs, it would be a matchup nightmare for any defensive coordinator. You'd have to double up on both WRs.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have both AJ & CJ. I just don't think trading all the way up to #1 overall to get CJ is the way to get it done.

tsip
03-11-2007, 05:20 PM
Maybe he s, he is getting older.

That said, if we trade Carr to them who throws the ball to Johnson & Johnson? The waterboy?

ABC...Carr does not do vertical anyway, though he's pretty good at the 'dink and dunk...

Jwwillis
03-11-2007, 05:28 PM
Bump :)


BUMP :wheel:

texansfan1974
03-11-2007, 05:49 PM
What does (unfounded rumor) mean?:confused:

dirty steve
03-11-2007, 05:51 PM
What does (unfounded rumor) mean?:confused:
means it has no credible source or basis for fact.

Second Honeymoon
03-11-2007, 05:52 PM
I truly believe that the 2004 season was still dancing around in the front office peoples' heads. I believe he had like 3500 yards a couple more TD's than Int's and a decent record, so where does all that just go? Also let's face it, we men never like to be wrong about anything:bigboss:

he did not have a decent record. banks won two of those games and was partly responsible for a third. Do the math and you realize that Carr only won 4 games that season. If that is a decent record, well then you really need to readjust your expectations or remember your history. Bottom line is that the best QB we have ever had was Banks. Yes, it is sad, but the facts backup these facts.

Carr had a decent 3rd season but still not good enough to warrant a franchise QB contract. His 4th and 5th seasons necessitate him taking his sorry act to another city. dude is a bum.

texansfan1974
03-11-2007, 05:54 PM
means it has no credible source or basis for fact.

Thanks.

Second Honeymoon
03-11-2007, 06:00 PM
this whole rumor is total bulls__t. if the raiders made this move the Raider Nation would spontaneously explode. No team would be this stupid. Carr is worth at best a 5th round pick due to his contract. If he reworked his deal (which his brother Hulk said Carr would never do) he could be worth as much as a 3rd rounder. Our best bet to trade Carr is to trade him for another overpaid underachiever (moss and roberty gallery come to mind). No one wants Carr's sweetheart contract that McNair authored for his cabana boy, Carr.

We will be lucky to get anything for him and its looking more and more like a June cap casualty ala McNair. Our fans have shown much patience towards Carr so I don't think we necessarily have to have a long term solution in place this year. This means we don't have to move up to get Quinn or overpay for a franchise level QB like T. Green.

as long as we don't have Carr behind Center, I am fine with whatever the franchise decides. Addition by subtraction.

TEXANRED
03-11-2007, 06:01 PM
No fair they locked the other thread!!!!!!!

Now we have to start all over again with this one!!!!!!!!

Second Honeymoon
03-11-2007, 06:18 PM
Those are some BIG words dude!

BANKS?? Give me a total break! I guess you missed the games when he tripped over his own shoe strings or threw interceptions, just like Carr did. Someone set the man straight. SO BANKS WON TWO GAMES...? I was under the impression that the WHOLE team won those games.

Now let me get this straight, when Banks or any other QB wins a game, they are considered a WINNER. BUT, when CARR wins games, it was the team around him and not anything that he did. RIGHT? I just wanted to clear that up.

you can try and put words into my mouth, Dr. Phil. I am fine with that. If you want to get nitpicky and change 'won' to 'started' that is fine, but I had assumed that we were all smart enough to forego the semantics and just point out that Banks had a .500 record as a starter behind the same line, same coaching, same everything. carr was 5-7 as starter that 'glorious' year and played like total garbage the 2nd half of that season. then we get 2-14 the next year and this year we managed 6-10 in spite of Carr. We overcame Carr to win 6 games this year. The games we won tended to be games that Carr wasn't asked to do anything at all. When we would ask Carr to do something that would be when we would lose.

Everyone acts like the 7-9 year was some feather in Carr's cap. Hardly. We actually were 4 or 5 big plays on offense from being 10-6. But Carr could never get the job done and finish. Its been a tailspin ever since...we need to pull out

HoustonFrog
03-11-2007, 06:29 PM
If I only played 2 games and won one and lost one I'd have a .500 record too. That means nothing. You can't compare a whole season, different games, different players, different defenses, different game-plan to the games that Banks played it. NO WAY. I'm not buying it. He was a great guy to have on the team, but no way better, no way.

I can take those same stats you are quoting and twist them to make my opinion look right too. So we don't agree....period.

:cool: Last queston: Where did Banks go and play after he left here? I can't recall? OH ya, nowhere.

Sad indeed since he performed better for less money behind that line..lol..oh I forgot..different defenses, etc. Dear Lord.

Texans Pride
03-11-2007, 06:32 PM
means it has no credible source or basis for fact.

Wouldn't that just be a rumor?

Second Honeymoon
03-11-2007, 06:40 PM
If I only played 2 games and won one and lost one I'd have a .500 record too. That means nothing. You can't compare a whole season, different games, different players, different defenses, different game-plan to the games that Banks played it. NO WAY. I'm not buying it. He was a great guy to have on the team, but no way better, no way.

I can take those same stats you are quoting and twist them to make my opinion look right too. So we don't agree....period.

:cool: Last queston: Where did Banks go and play after he left here? I can't recall? OH ya, nowhere.

Banks played over a span of 5 games not 2. Also wouldnt you think it would be harder for a backup to step in and perform than knowing you were the starter? banks had everything going against him that Carr supposedly did, and he managed to overcome it. All I ask is that you go back and look at the games in the 2nd half of that season when Carr came back from injury. Look at how the season played itself out. The writing was on the wall even back then and it all played itself out the following year at 2-14. And my post history shows that I was talking about this whole thing way back during the supposedly glorious 04 season. Sadly, I am posting the same things about Carr that I was posting back in 04...and nothing has changed but now more people agree with me. same deficiencies, same inherent flaws in his game, same inability to burn the blitz, same inability to throw short over the middle, same inability to make progressions and not just lock on AJ, same inability to display good footwork in the pocket, same inability to inspire and make the players around him better.

drafting Carr is in the past and the mistake was made. but until we admit it was a mistake and move on, we will never turn things around here.

he just doesnt have it and never will. you have to make plays and its not always a perfect situation. he has never shown the ability to do this on a consistent basis.

carr is just a bad NFL QB. its that easy. that sound you dont hear is the sound of the Texan's phone not ringing. no one really covets him and anyone that is even considering him knows that they can get him as a Free Agent after the June deadline unless we just hold pat and keep him around another year, but that is looking less and less likely daily. The act is just getting old. its frustrating and I just want the team to start fresh. we never built anything so its not like we are in rebuilding mode. we just need to start a new era..to begin anew...whether that means drafting Quinn and grooming a new QB or drafting defense and trying to 'Chicago' our way into and through the playoffs. at the end of the day I am fine either way. i have survived 5 years and it has only made me stronger.....and poorer. I feel like a damn Cubs fan....

Second Honeymoon
03-11-2007, 07:01 PM
No, I don't hear the phone ringing, but my names not Mr. McNair either and last I heard, they aren't sharing!!

You will probably get your wish to have a new start, but DC will get one too and we'll both sit back and watch won't we? The fact is NEITHER one of us knows just how that will turn out. Do we...I just wish him the best, and by no means will I ever or would I ever call another human being a "bum". You are entitled to do as you wish. :)

he's been a bum for us, that is all i am saying. i hope he does well wherever he goes. last time i checked he has given back to the community and hasn't tried to 'make it rain' or some other stupid narcisistic garbage. we just need to start expecting more from our leaders and start holding people accountable for their play regardless of excuses and rationalizations or public relations concerns/saving face.

either way, you are right that neither of us know what the hell is gonna happen except that DC probably wont be the starter. even that is probably only 60/40 in favor him actually not being on the roster come June.

i just look forward to a time when The Bullpen has topics like 'Mario will crush Peyton come Sunday' or 'DeMeco demolishes Young in Tennessee' instead of the zombie like procession of 'David Carr Sucks' or 'I Love My Carr' threads. When I go the STL Cardinals forums and post on my beloved team's forums the topics are just so much more positive and possess such great comraderie. We criticize and support our players but its almost always nearly a consensus one way or the other (except for LaRussa...he is as divisive an issue as Carr is). This whole Carr debate has been really strong and hotly disputed for about 24 months now and the VY/Bush/Mario thing only fueled the flames further.

I hope it is all coming to an end though. I think we all just need a little taste of success here as Texans fans....and I think we are starting to get on the right path

Go Texans

Hervoyel
03-11-2007, 07:25 PM
I guess you missed the games when he tripped over his own shoe strings or threw interceptions, just like Carr did.

So if I understand this correctly you admit that David trips over his own shoe strings and throws interceptions.

If we find that level of play unacceptable from Tony Banks at a bargain price why would anyone be surprised that nobody wants to see it out of the expensive starter?

It only works one way.

tsip
03-11-2007, 07:35 PM
If I only played 2 games and won one and lost one I'd have a .500 record too. That means nothing. You can't compare a whole season, different games, different players, different defenses, different game-plan to the games that Banks played it. NO WAY. I'm not buying it. He was a great guy to have on the team, but no way better, no way.

I can take those same stats you are quoting and twist them to make my opinion look right too. So we don't agree....period.

:cool: Last queston: Where did Banks go and play after he left here? I can't recall? OH ya, nowhere.

...maybe Carr will be Banks team mate again, soon

threetoedpete
03-11-2007, 07:44 PM
but you are in cap hell when it comes time to extend CJ, and drafting a WR in the first round still doesnt fill your bigger needs at offensive line and in the defensive backfield. i just think it would be a mistake...you guys have your opinions about other things and i have mine about this. your offensive line is in ALOT worse shape than your WR's.

Word


Nice post.

TheRealJoker
03-11-2007, 07:49 PM
War Carr Threads!!!

2BCF
03-11-2007, 08:07 PM
Back to the land of fruits and nuts!

Big Ben Wallets
03-11-2007, 09:31 PM
My sources tell me that the Raiders are offering Randy Moss for David Carr. I don't know where you got the Carr & #8 for #1. Then the Raiders would target Calvin Johnson, not Houston. The Raiders want to pair Carr and Calvin Johnson, I posted this information on my blog about 6 hours ago.

rascous
03-11-2007, 09:59 PM
Carr to Bears for future 4th round pick. I just read it on an "unspecified" message board. It's just a rumor. :joker:

Tulip
03-11-2007, 10:08 PM
My sources tell me that the Raiders are offering Randy Moss for David Carr. I don't know where you got the Carr & #8 for #1. Then the Raiders would target Calvin Johnson, not Houston. The Raiders want to pair Carr and Calvin Johnson, I posted this information on my blog about 6 hours ago.

Our owner would never sign off on Randy Moss. McNair is trying to amass a roster of 53 choirboys.

mexican_texan
03-11-2007, 10:10 PM
Our owner would never sign off on Randy Moss. McNair is trying to amass a roster of 53 choirboys.
Except for the alleged domestic abuse by Ahman Green and Travis Johnson.

bigTEXan8
03-11-2007, 10:15 PM
i personally don't think that carr is going anywhere this season. i think that the texans will draft a qb in 3rd round maybe...carr will play half the season, the the rookie comes in. texans will buy out the rest of carr's contract. i would love to see carr leave so he doesn't have to deal with an organization that doesn't know how to build a team to protect a qb, only destroy ones before they have a decent shot at having a professional career.

freedoggy77
03-11-2007, 10:27 PM
this is all a bunch of BS. However if true I would be ecstastic! I would trade down to pick up Gaines Adams/Amobi Okoye and LaRon Landry

uhcougar08
03-11-2007, 10:27 PM
My sources tell me that the Raiders are offering Randy Moss for David Carr. I don't know where you got the Carr & #8 for #1. Then the Raiders would target Calvin Johnson, not Houston. The Raiders want to pair Carr and Calvin Johnson, I posted this information on my blog about 6 hours ago.

The Texans then could trade Moss for a second, or third, which is more than they would have received for Carr straight up, IMO. It seems like the best they could get would be a 4th rounder for him. If they could do this, I am all in. Business is about winning, and this would be a good business move.

michaelm
03-11-2007, 11:07 PM
You a worse that a 2ned gradre speller.

:joker:

Weeeeeee, Drama. Congrats, you pointed out that I happened to type too fast in that post and omitted the a and the r from the word 'are'... I withdraw my name from consideration for Message Board Poster of the Year, and instead, submit yours...
I truthfully would expect a better response from you, but color me disappointed...

Ooops, I better remember to spel check right now... oh, good god, spell check can't help me now... it wouldn't have pointed out that I typed 'that' instead of 'than'... I am doomed...

Sometimes people are just in a hurry and type fast, McGruff...








p.s. Anyone who doesn't realize that I purposefully misspelled the word spell earlier, please go to the end on the line...

TexansSB07
03-11-2007, 11:59 PM
ESPN The Blitz just reported that the McNair and Al Davis are in discussions of a proposed trade that would send David Carr and our #8 pick to the Raiders for the top overall pick. The deal also included the Texans send their 5th round pick to the Raiders for their 6th round pick. The report is that the Texans have their sites on Calvin Johnson. If this trade goes through, it looks like the Texans would draft Johnson to start opposite of Andre Johnson and look to draft Ryan Kalil (USC, Center) of Reggie Nelson (Florida, Safety) in the second round and go quarterback in round 3 (Kolb or Stanton).

ESPN known for having nothing to say and 24 hours to not say it in, I say BS Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak BOTH have said and I will repeat s-l-o-w-l-y for all the ESPN fans..."We are not looking to give away picks, we are looking to get MORE picks"

TexansSB07
03-12-2007, 12:01 AM
ESPN The Blitz just reported that the McNair and Al Davis are in discussions of a proposed trade that would send David Carr and our #8 pick to the Raiders for the top overall pick. The deal also included the Texans send their 5th round pick to the Raiders for their 6th round pick. The report is that the Texans have their sites on Calvin Johnson. If this trade goes through, it looks like the Texans would draft Johnson to start opposite of Andre Johnson and look to draft Ryan Kalil (USC, Center) of Reggie Nelson (Florida, Safety) in the second round and go quarterback in round 3 (Kolb or Stanton).

Maverick 1 post, hey isn't your name the same as a Dallas NBA team...I bet he is a Dallas fan trying to annoy us, listen friend call us when you get a REAL GM and a WR that knows the playbook and doesn't have QB telling how to run routes:dance2:

Malloy
03-12-2007, 05:24 AM
Our owner would never sign off on Randy Moss. McNair is trying to amass a roster of 53 choirboys.

Well, if he organizes some kind of mandatory singing classes, that whole choir-thing would be taken care of ? :)

Scooter
03-12-2007, 05:42 AM
Calvin Johnson?....hmm... that sounds really neat and all..but it smacks of the Lions.

once again, i didnt read many posts in this thread. what smacks of the lions is drafting a defensive lineman (okoye, branch, adams, anderson) again at 8. babin, travis johnson, mario williams ...

i like drafting "skill" players less than anyone but the trade of carr and 7 spots in the first round when we have adequate cap room makes good sense to me. in an ideal world we trade this pick several times to stockpile mid-late first day talent.

OrangeCountyTexansFan
03-12-2007, 12:01 PM
I'm ok with the trade, but not with CJ as the pick. If your going to go WR at number 1 overall, he is a franchise WR. We already have a franchise WR. Why draft CJ #1 for him to be a #2 WR?
To take the pressure and double teams off of your #1 receiver. If both your #1 and #2 receiver are in single coverage, that is called a win-win for the passing game.:victory:

Roughnecks
03-12-2007, 02:25 PM
I think CJ would end up as the #1 WR in a year or two over AJ. He is as good as AJ no disrespect to AJ. He is just as fast can jump up to get the ball, adjust to the ball but he can separate from the DB better than AJ IMO. Look at the the two WR tandems the Colt, the Bengals look at how good these teams are. This would bring the play on offense up a notch or two with these two guy's playing in this offense if only because they could get rid of the ball quicker.

carter08
03-12-2007, 03:32 PM
oh my

not happening

i laugh at those thinking this will happen

ImSoTexas
03-12-2007, 04:09 PM
If they pulled off this trade & didnt take J.Russell I'd be done....Whos gonna throw them the ball??

freedoggy77
03-12-2007, 04:11 PM
If they pulled off this trade & didnt take J.Russell I'd be done....Whos gonna throw them the ball??

if I was Al Davis/Lane Kiffin I would take Carr and pick up C. Johnson somehow. Then I would draft TROY SMITH in the second and groom him for a year behind Carr.

freedoggy77
03-14-2007, 11:42 PM
I was looking through some Raiders forums and a lot of people were supportive of Carr and thought that he could do better with Oakland if they bolster their O-Line in the draft. There was this link to a site (i'm not sure if it was official) that said Raiders were offering their third round pick for Carr and then they would use their first on Joe Thomas. I would be happy with this but then we would have to draft Quinn and not Landry!

281
03-14-2007, 11:48 PM
*sigh*...

let the madness ensue. another unfounded carr thread.

cj5776
03-14-2007, 11:50 PM
Anybody want to guess how many pages this will blow up to... I say by this time tomorrow, 8 pages

cj5776
03-14-2007, 11:52 PM
I was looking through some Raiders forums and a lot of people were supportive of Carr and thought that he could do better with Oakland if they bolster their O-Line in the draft. There was this link to a site (i'm not sure if it was official) that said Raiders were offering their third round pick for Carr and then they would use their first on Joe Thomas. I would be happy with this but then we would have to draft Quinn and not Landry!

Feels like WR instead due to burn of Gallery, and if Quinn is taken I still say Kolb in second

ArlingtonTexan
03-14-2007, 11:57 PM
merging with the other Carr/raiders thread.

281
03-14-2007, 11:57 PM
Feels like WR instead due to burn of Gallery, and if Quinn is taken I still say Kolb in second

stanton, please. i think he's gonna be the best QB of this class.

281
03-14-2007, 11:58 PM
merging with the other Carr/raiders thread.

thanks.

hot pickle
03-15-2007, 12:08 AM
scariest thing about CJ is that he played with a bad QB and still tore things up at the college level, imagine if he had a good QB, he would be the best prospect to ever go into the draft

TEXANRED
03-15-2007, 07:26 AM
scariest thing about CJ is that he played with a bad QB and still tore things up at the college level, imagine if he had a good QB, he would be the best prospect to ever go into the draft

No that can't be, Reggie Bush is the best prospect ever. Remember? A once in a life time pick. I guess I didn't read the small print......until next years draft

coachdent
03-15-2007, 08:37 AM
Mr. CJohnson... I know Eric Moulds. I have seen Eric Moulds. And CJ... you are no Eric Moulds!

I'm sure the Charlie Adams and Kevin Walter fan club members would lobby hard to keep CJ out of a Texan uniform because our depth at #2 is juuuuuuuuuuuust fine. :sarcasm:


On the thread and the trade rumor...I can't see the NFL allowing this trade. Al Davis would be institutionalized and Raider nation would burn down the Colussium and perhaps the entire Bay area just for $&its and giggles. :joker:

Cheroqui
03-15-2007, 05:21 PM
If that were to happen, who is going to throw the ball to them?

Vinny
03-15-2007, 05:27 PM
If that were to happen, who is going to throw the ball to them?

you bumped this miserable thread for that comment? :wheel:

Ole Miss Texan
03-15-2007, 05:27 PM
no way this happens...that would mean that oakland rated Carr equivalent to a first round pick.....impossible.

Cheroqui
03-15-2007, 05:58 PM
you bumped this miserable thread for that comment? :wheel:

It wasn't meant to be a bump Vin. I said one time that I would be honest and say that with all the threads that one could be interested in, there is no way I am going to scan 3-12 pages of a post to make sure it wasn't said before. It's just too much and too many posts to peek at. It is to just be ignored if it happened.

Sorry disregard...

keyfro
03-15-2007, 08:54 PM
look at it this way...when it comes to al davis the only thing that can be certain is that you are dealing with a guy who is totally and completely nuts...this is a guy who thought so little of marcus allen that he constantly had him at the bottom of the depth chart...his draft picks have been horrible...and he can't decide who he wants to be the coach of this team...once he gets a good coach he trades him for draft picks

Lifetime Oiler/Texan Fan
03-15-2007, 09:02 PM
yea

freedoggy77
03-15-2007, 09:48 PM
If Oakland gets Carr they will take Johnson and possibly a rookie in a later round. just my :twocents:

powerfuldragon
03-15-2007, 09:51 PM
hey, why's this one back?

keyfro
03-15-2007, 09:53 PM
If Oakland gets Carr they will take Johnson and possibly a rookie in a later round. just my :twocents:

oh yeah definetly...especially if they are able to trade moss...knowing how davis loves freak talents like calvin johnson he would be the no brainer pick even though they need o-line help...personally though i don't see how davis could pass on russell...he's everything davis wants a QB to be