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4Texans
03-09-2007, 08:18 AM
I have a Texans calendar, and the Texans fact for 8 March 07 is;

"The 2002 Texans were the first expansion team to have players selected to the Pro Bowl since the 1967 New Orleans Saints."

How long was it before the Saints had a winning record???????? I hope this isn't a sign.:confused:

texan767
03-09-2007, 08:38 AM
You know, I've thought that myself...

Texans Horror
03-09-2007, 08:54 AM
Saints started play in 1967.

1979: Saints finally made .500.
1987: Saints first winning season, 12-3.

There's a reason people called them the Ain'ts.

To answer your question, only 20 years or so...

4Texans
03-09-2007, 03:35 PM
To answer your question, only 20 years or so...

:brickwall :scare: :yawn: :crying:

20 years is a long time for a winning season........

TwinSisters
03-09-2007, 03:41 PM
:brickwall :scare: :yawn: :crying:

20 years is a long time for a winning season........

wait until you start thinking about the 50 for a playoff win.

D-ReK
03-09-2007, 03:43 PM
wait until you start thinking about the 50 for a playoff win.

2007 - 1967 = 40

this has been a math lesson brought to you by D-ReK...

Texan_Bill
03-09-2007, 03:44 PM
Saints started play in 1967.

1979: Saints finally made .500.
1987: Saints first winning season, 12-3.

There's a reason people called them the Ain'ts.

To answer your question, only 20 years or so...

Trivia: Who was the head coach that led them to their first ever non-losing season??

texans83
03-09-2007, 03:44 PM
2007 - 1967 = 40

this has been a math lesson brought to you by D-ReK...

sweet I learned something today!!!!!:yahoo:

Double Barrel
03-09-2007, 03:46 PM
*sigh* y'all ain't doing a good job of instilling optimism about our future. :shades:

Lucky
03-09-2007, 03:52 PM
2007 - 1967 = 40

this has been a math lesson brought to you by D-ReK...
The Saints got their 1st playoff win in the 2000 season (against the Rams). The 34th season in franchise history.

Football history lesson brought to you by Lucky. :)

TwinSisters
03-09-2007, 03:53 PM
2007 - 1967 = 40

this has been a math lesson brought to you by D-ReK...

I am talking about the Cardinals 47-98. The Saints won in 2000.

TwinSisters
03-09-2007, 04:09 PM
Trivia: Who was the head coach that led them to their first ever non-losing season??


Dick Nolan ( oddly enough )

0-12 when fired, finished 1-15.

D-ReK
03-09-2007, 04:10 PM
The Saints got their 1st playoff win in the 2000 season (against the Rams). The 34th season in franchise history.

Football history lesson brought to you by Lucky. :)

lawl i just got owned in the face...

Texan_Bill
03-09-2007, 04:34 PM
Dick Nolan ( oddly enough )

0-12 when fired, finished 1-15.

Good Job!!.. 8-8 in 1979... the next non-losing season was 1983 (8-8), Coach: was O.A. "Bum" Phillips

TwinSisters
03-09-2007, 05:38 PM
Good Job!!.. 8-8 in 1979... the next non-losing season was 1983 (8-8), Coach: was O.A. "Bum" Phillips

well to be honest, I have the charts open in some other windows. So it's not like I am walking around with Dick Nolan on my mind.:D

and for DB:
I am looking at all of these other records to spot crappy teams that have made the playoffs and there are a few.

1998 Cardinals: that didn't do anything that well except for pass and takeaways.

1994 Bears: Couldn't run or pass, had an okay pass defense, zero pro-bowlers, Walsh and Kramer in the pocket, and still advanced to the divisional round in the playoffs. It's almost like their secondary propelled them into the playoffs by themselves.

Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, and Chicago made the playoffs that year.

freedoggy77
03-09-2007, 07:40 PM
you guys sound very optimistic about the Texans future. trivia: Houston was the second expansion team to win its first game. what was the first team?

Ryan
03-09-2007, 07:52 PM
carolina panthers?

swoldier
03-09-2007, 07:56 PM
1994 Bears: Couldn't run or pass, had an okay pass defense, zero pro-bowlers, Walsh and Kramer in the pocket, and still advanced to the divisional round in the playoffs. It's almost like their secondary propelled them into the playoffs by themselves.

Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, and Chicago made the playoffs that year.


NFC my friend that is why. Not because they were worth a damn, just because they had no competition.

TwinSisters
03-09-2007, 08:21 PM
NFC my friend that is why. Not because they were worth a damn, just because they had no competition.

Vikings are the first ones.

Carolina had a good defense in all three of their playoff runs and had at least 11 wins in each one.

NFC back in 1994 were the kingpins. That's SF with Young, The Smith Cowboys, Favre Packers, Sanders Lions, Carter/Moon Vikings.

I don't think the balance started to shift to the AFC until 97/98 when the Broncos went to the Super Bowl back to back.
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Yes, I do understand that the league has changed a bit with 4 divisional seeds, but the Chiefs squeaked in last year in tough division. So it shouldn't be that much of a stretch to get in on a wildcard while we wait for Manning to slow down and Titans to make some critical management errors.

swoldier
03-09-2007, 08:39 PM
So it shouldn't be that much of a stretch to get in on a wildcard while we wait for Manning to slow down and Titans to make some critical management errors.

Heres to it.:drunk: .. Go Texans!!!!

TwinSisters
03-10-2007, 08:05 AM
since we are talking about the Saints and the Texans, might as well throw some Bartkowski down for the hat-trick

http://www.nflatino.com/imagerepository/Steve_Bartkowski_1.jpg
http://www.atlantafalcons.com/history/rohBartkowski.jsp
Check out the video


1966 to 1977 for first non-losing season
1978 first playoff game

1978 Atlanta Falcons:
In 16 games they scored over 21 points once for a 23.

20-14
0-10
16-24
9-14
23-20
7-31
14- 0
20-17
15- 7
21-10
20-17
7-13
20-17
7-37
20-17
21-42

Ranked 26 of 28 in the NFL for points.
Ranked 14 of 28 in the NFL for points allowed.
Had zero pro bowlers.
LA Rams, the divsion leader, had 9.
Ranked 27 of 28 with their running game ( yards ). 3.11 YPA ( that's .07 worse than the 02' Texans )
finished 9-7.

Beat the Eagles in the wildcard round by 1.
Fell to the Cowboys in the divisional round by 7.

not too bad.
weak offense
strong, but not elite defense
9-7
wildcard

WaywardTexanFan
03-10-2007, 08:07 AM
Where can these Texans calendars be purchased at?

Ole Miss Texan
03-10-2007, 09:50 AM
Wildcard in '08 baby!!!