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Alex
03-07-2007, 04:26 PM
Ok this is the Texans roster for now (I didn't count former Texans who are UFA):

QB: David Carr, Sage Rosenfels, Brandon Van Pelt, Quinton Porter

RB/FB: Ahman Green, Domanick Williams (Davis), Wali Lundy, Chris Taylor, Samkon Gado, Vonta Leach, Jameel Cook

WR: Andre Johnson, David Anderson, Kevin Walter, Jerome Mathis, Charlie Adams

TE: Owen Daniels, Jeb Putzier, Joel Dreessen, Ben Steele

O-Line: Chester Pitts, Steve McKinney, Mike Flanagan, Fred Weary, Ephraim Salaam, Charles Spencer, Eric Winston, Scott Jackson, Chris White, Drew Hodgden, Atlas Herrion

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D-Line: Mario Williams, Anthony Weaver, Jason Babin, Travis Johnson, N.D. Kalu, Anthony Maddox, Thomas Johnson, Alfred Malone, Earl Cochran, Tim Bulman

Linebackers: DeMeco Ryans, Morlon Greenwood, Danny Clark, Kailee Wong, Shante Orr, Charlie Anderson

Conerbacks: Dunta Robinson, Demarcus Faggins, Roc Alexander, Dexter Wynn, Von Hutchins, Jason Horton

Safeties: Glenn Earl, C.C. Brown, Jason Simmons

Kicker: Kris Brown

Punter: Cameron Muro

Long Snapper: Bryan Pittman

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This threat is an opportunity for us to do the 2007-2008 Texans Team

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1. Identify the needs of this team:

#1 QB
#2 WR
Blocking TE
LT and depth at OG/C
RE and DT to compete with Babin & Johnson
LB to play on Special Teams
#2 CB to compete with Faggins
FS or SS to compete with Earl & Brown
Punter

2. Moves in Free Agency

- Trade David Carr to Minnesota for a 4th round pick
- Release Domanick Williams (Davis)
- Resign Troy Evans: He is a very good special teams player.
- Sign Patrick Ramsay: He understands the game well. He is not the most gifted player but I think he can play well for us.
-Sign James Reed: Even if he's undersized, he plays very well at DT position. He's very quick and stop the run well.
-Sign Kelley Washington: He is a big and very fast receiver. He didn't produce well the last two years due to injuries but he can be sign at resonable price.
-Sign Derrick Frost on an offer sheet: He has powerful leg. Was 9th in the league last year for punt inside 20. If the Redskins matchs the offer there are no compensation.
-Sign Mike Doss: He's a reliable safety who play well in coverage. He hits hard and has a great speed.
-Sign Brandon Green: Provide depth at DE position. Cheap and can causes some surprises.
-Sign Roderick Hood CB: Provide depth at CB

NFL Draft:
1. Levi Brown OT PSU: He will become a very good LT in this league. Even it's not the most spectacular choice, it's maybe the better
2. Robert Meachem (or Sidney Rice) WR Tennessee: Great size, terrific speed. Will become the perfect #2 WR with Andre Johnson
3. Kevin Kolb QB Houston: A project QB, who shoulb become a reliable starter.
4(a). Kenny Scott CB Georgia Tech: Great size, Good speed. Should become a #2 CB in the NFL.
4(b from Min). Matt Spaeth TE Minnesota: The Blocking TE that the Texans need. He will form a very good duo with Owen Daniels.

For the 5th, 6th and 7th round I have no real idea maybe a LB a G and a FS/SS

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Training Camp cut:
Jeb Putzier, Samkon Gado, Brandon Van Pelt, Charlie Adams, Joel Dreessen, Atlas Herrion, Scott Jackson, Earl Cochran, Tim Bulman, Jason Horton, Von Hutchins, Cameron Muro

New Texans:

QB: Patrick Ramsay, Sage Rosenfels, Kevin Kolb, Quinton Porter (PS)

RB: Ahman Green, Wali Lundy, Chris Taylor

FB: Vonta Leach, Jameel Cook

WR: Andre Johnson, Robert Meachem, Kelley Washington David Anderson, Kevin Walter, Jerome Mathis

TE: Owen Daniels, Matt Spaeth, Ben Steele

OT: Levi Brown, Ephraim Salaam, Charles Spencer, Eric Winston

OG: Chester Pitts, Steve McKinney, Fred Weary, Chris White (he can also play at C)

C: Mike Flanagan, Drew Hodgden

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LE: Jason Babin, N.D. Kalu

RE: Mario Williams, Brandon Green, Alfred Malone

DT: Anthony Weaver, Travis Johnson, James Reed, Anthony Maddox, Thomas Johnson

OLB: Morlon Greenwood, Danny Clark, Shante Orr, Charlie Anderson

MLB: DeMeco Ryans, Kailee Wong

CB: Dunta Robinson, Demarcus Faggins, Kenny Scott, Roc Alexander, Dexter Wynn, Roderick Hood

FS: Mike Doss, C.C. Brown

SS: Glenn Earl, Jason Simmons

K: Kris Brown

P: Derrick Frost

LS: Bryan Pittman

Insideop
03-07-2007, 07:01 PM
Wow! Good post. It looks like you put quite a bit of thought into it. Of course I don't agree with everything you have here, but that's to be expected. Like they say, "you can't please everyone."

Here's what I would like to do if I were GM:

FA's (the ones signed and the ones I hope to sign)
1) Ahman Green, RB
2) Danny Clark, LB
3) Carlisle, OG
4) Hamlin or another FS
5) Patrick Ramsey, QB
6) Dayne, RB (resign)
7) Troy Evans, LB (resign)
8) Vonta Leach, FB (resign)

Draft
1) Amobi Okoye, DT
2) Staley or Ugoh, LT
3) Stanton or Kolb, QB
4) Coe or Bain, CB
4) Andy Alleman, OG (extra 4th for trading Carr, wish we could get a 3rd, but..)
5) Quincy Black, OLB
6) Sepulveda, P
7) Jerard Rabb, WR

As far as cuts, well, I think it's pretty much a done deal on DD/DW. Also, I think Gado, Hodgdon, Orr, Cook, and Wong might be cut too.

That would leave the team looking like this:

QB Ramsey, Rosenfels, Kolb/Stanton
RB Green, Dayne, Taylor, Lundy
FB Leach
WR Johnson, Walter, Anderson, Rabb, Mathis
TE Daniels, Putzier, Steele
OT Staley/Ugoh, Spencer, Winston, Salaam
OG Pitts, Weary, Carlisle, Alleman
C McKinney, Flanagan

LE Weaver, Kalu
RE Williams, Babin
DT Okoye, Thomas Johnson
DT Maddox, Travis Johnson, Malone
SLB Clark, Black, Anderson
MLB Ryans, Polk
WLB Greenwood, Evans
CB Robinson, Alexander, Wynn
CB Coe/Bain, Faggins
FS Hamlin/FA, Jason Simmons
SS Earl, Brown

K Brown
P Sepulveda

Well, that's my choices. Don't think it will turn out that way, but it's fun to speculate! JMHO!

QB75
03-07-2007, 10:09 PM
Well, scratch that. Ramsey went to Denver.

Clash_Fan3605
03-07-2007, 10:21 PM
FA:
1. Ahman Green
2. Danny Clark
3. James Reed
4. Cooper Carlisle
5. Vonta Leach (re-sign)
6. Troy Evans (re-sign)

Draft:
1. LaRon Landry
2. Marcus McCauley
3. Ryan Harris
4. David Ball
5. BPA
6. BPA
7. BPA

Lineup:
QB Rosenfels, Van Pelt, Porter
HB Green, Lundy, Gado, Taylor
FB Leach
WR AJ, Walter, Ball, Mathis
TE Daniels, Bruener
OT Spencer :dance2: , Harris, Salaam
OG Pitts, Carlisle, Weary, McKinney
C Flanagan, McKinney

DE Williams, Weaver, Kalu
DT Maddox, Johnson, Reed, Dalton
OLB Clark, Greenwood, Orr
MLB Ryans, Evans
CB Robinson, McCauley, Faggins, McCleon
FS Landry, Simmons
SS Glenn Earl

K Kris Brown
P Chad Stanley (1 more year)
KR Jerome Mathis
PR Dexter Wynn

QB75
03-07-2007, 10:49 PM
FA:
1. Ahman Green
2. Danny Clark
3. James Reed
4. Cooper Carlisle
5. Vonta Leach (re-sign)
6. Troy Evans (re-sign)

Draft:
1. LaRon Landry
2. Marcus McCauley
3. Ryan Harris
4. David Ball
5. BPA
6. BPA
7. BPA

Lineup:
QB Rosenfels, Van Pelt, Porter
HB Green, Lundy, Gado, Taylor
FB Leach
WR AJ, Walter, Ball, Mathis
TE Daniels, Bruener
OT Spencer :dance2: , Harris, Salaam
OG Pitts, Carlisle, Weary, McKinney
C Flanagan, McKinney

DE Williams, Weaver, Kalu
DT Maddox, Johnson, Reed, Dalton
OLB Clark, Greenwood, Orr
MLB Ryans, Evans
CB Robinson, McCauley, Faggins, McCleon
FS Landry, Simmons
SS Glenn Earl

K Kris Brown
P Chad Stanley (1 more year)
KR Jerome Mathis
PR Dexter Wynn

QB: Rosenfels, Van Pelt, Porter ?? Now that is funny. You gotta have pro backup man.

A Texan
03-07-2007, 11:19 PM
You can probably scratch Porter too. He's been sent to NFL Europe which usually means they think you're not good enough to play in the NFL.

Clash_Fan3605
03-07-2007, 11:28 PM
QB: Rosenfels, Van Pelt, Porter ?? Now that is funny. You gotta have pro backup man.

I know. QB would by far be the weakest position. That's my big ?. Perhaps we could draft Drew Stanton and let him sit for a year and let Kubes teach him.

MATRIX
03-07-2007, 11:50 PM
FA's (the ones signed and the ones I hope to sign)
1) Ahman Green, RB
2) Danny Clark, LB
3) Carlisle, OG
4) Hamlin or another FS
5) Patrick Ramsey, QB
6) Dayne, RB (resign)
7) Troy Evans, LB (resign)
8) Vonta Leach, FB (resign)

Draft
1) Amobi Okoye, DT
2) Staley or Ugoh, LT
3) Stanton , QB
4) Coe or Bain, CB
5) Quincy Black, OLB
6) Sepulveda, P
7) Jerard Rabb, WR

As far as cuts, well, I think it's pretty much a done deal on DD/DW. Also, I think Gado, Hodgdon, Orr, Cook, and Wong might be cut too.



QB Carr, Rosenfels, Stanton
RB Green, Dayne, Taylor, Lundy
FB Leach
WR Johnson, Walter, Anderson, Rabb, Mathis
TE Daniels, Putzier, Steele
OT Staley/Ugoh, Spencer, Winston, Salaam
OG Pitts, Weary, Carlisle, Alleman
C McKinney, Flanagan

LE Weaver, Kalu
RE Williams, Babin
DT Okoye, Thomas Johnson
DT Maddox, Travis Johnson, Malone
SLB Clark, Black, Anderson
MLB Ryans, Polk
WLB Greenwood, Evans
CB Robinson, Alexander, Wynn
CB Coe/Bain, Faggins
FS Hamlin/FA, Jason Simmons
SS Earl, Brown

K Brown
P Sepulveda


I wasn't really caring who got cut and drafted, so i cut and pasted this...with minor changes. I really don't se Carr gone till after this season. And the odds of Sage starting ae the same as Randy Moss playing QB for a high school team. He just dosen't have it to go 16 or more games. And mop up duty dosen't make a good QB.

Stats tell the tale:

CARR
GP PYDS PCT TDs INT RATING
16 2767 68.3 11 12 82.1
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/306268
Stay tuned -- if Carr lands with a team that has a good O-line and capable receivers, he could shoot up the Fantasy draft boards in 2007.
Pos Rank Pts
Quarterbacks 11 34.64


Rosenfels
GP PYDS PCT TDs INT RATING
4 265 69.5 3 1 103.0
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/235151
Pos Rank Pts
Quarterbacks 86 -91.24

Now, why is a key information source even saying Carr is better? Compare the stats, and remember it was in injury/mop up time. Also, in 2 of the games Sage was in...he was aginst second string guys. NO WONDER he is rated as a -91.24(NEGATIVE) and at #86 of the QBs in the NFL for fantasy draft.

South Texan
03-08-2007, 12:22 AM
Keep Wong as backup MLB and nickel LB. He's played fairly well at MLB before, and he's a savy vet that can offer leadership. Not sure what his cap hit is, but maybe he would restructure his contract to help out.