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Vinny
03-04-2007, 05:48 PM
A league source indicated that an early suitor for wide receiver Antonio Bryant could be the Texans, who cut wideout Eric Moulds last week and are seeking a No. 2 option to pair with Andre Johnson.http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl_experts/post/Day-2-free-agency-updates;_ylt=An6gbSiluGsOVI7KzLF.fz5DubYF?urn=nfl, 25656

gtexan02
03-04-2007, 05:49 PM
surprising given his off-field issues. But I do like his playmaking abilities

mexican_texan
03-04-2007, 05:49 PM
I'll take it.

dirty steve
03-04-2007, 05:50 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl_experts/post/Day-2-free-agency-updates;_ylt=An6gbSiluGsOVI7KzLF.fz5DubYF?urn=nfl, 25656

if they are pursuing him, somebody at 1 Reliant Park feels like they might be able to keep him under control. if you can do that, i think you get him for Lelie type $$$.

HoustonFrog
03-04-2007, 05:50 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl_experts/post/Day-2-free-agency-updates;_ylt=An6gbSiluGsOVI7KzLF.fz5DubYF?urn=nfl, 25656

Man, alot of talent and alot of trouble. I can see them maybe taking a flyer with some sort of conduct clause. This isn't a McNair type of guy. Overall though when he is on, he makes alot of plays.

BleedTheBurntOrange
03-04-2007, 05:51 PM
ability wise he's what were looking for just got to keep the attitude in check

TEXANRED
03-04-2007, 05:54 PM
humph.

I don't know.

Never started 16 games in any season. Only one thousand yard season. Career high 6 TD's back in 02.

Caught 40 balls for 700 yards and 4 TD last year.

Decent #2 stats.

I wouldn't throw a bucket of money at this guy.

JMO

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
03-04-2007, 06:09 PM
He will be suspended the first 2 games of the season though.

keyfro
03-04-2007, 06:09 PM
you know what at this point in the game they will bring in a lot of second tier guys to evaluate...kubiak isn't going ot ok the signing of a player he can't coach

Lucky
03-04-2007, 06:11 PM
Cons: Not often do the terms "26-year old" and "journeyman" fit in the same sentence. Mouth rarely matches production.

Pros: Added value in that he likes to work with laundry. Only has to be paid for 14 weeks, since he's suspended for the first two.

Recommendation: Pass. The guy likes to show his rear (http://www.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2006/11/smootass.jpg) too much.

TexanSam
03-04-2007, 06:13 PM
I wonder if he's scheduled to visit. I'd take a chance on him. I don't think anyone will be giving him a huge contract. Put a ton of incentives in there and let him earn his money.

beerlover
03-04-2007, 06:13 PM
the draft is full of excellent young talented WR's I'd like to get one with a 3rd/4th rd. pick ala Owen Daniels last year :drunk:

Errant Hothy
03-04-2007, 06:15 PM
No thanks. Lots of talent very little sense to use said talent.

mexican_texan
03-04-2007, 06:16 PM
The guy likes to show his rear (http://www.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2006/11/smootass.jpg) too much.
I wondered who would bring that up first.

TheRealJoker
03-04-2007, 06:31 PM
I really like Stallworth but I wouldn't be upset with Bryant if he were to sign a deal similar to the one Lelie just signed.

ArlingtonTexan
03-04-2007, 06:46 PM
I would be surprised to see this guy here more due to the Texans' normally shying away guys with his history.

In terms, of on the field, he would serve as a better number 2 WR than number 1, even though he does not think so. Potentailly, the best 2nd option the Texans have had in its short history.

Blake
03-04-2007, 06:53 PM
I would rather save a draft pick and get Antonio, than take a WR late in the draft and expect them to have the same impact.

2cents

VaBandWaggonFan
03-04-2007, 07:19 PM
This guy is trouble. I hope we don't sign him.

ToroRojo
03-04-2007, 07:40 PM
The problem with Antonio Bryant is that he is two kinds of crazy. He's crazy good and then he's also crazy. Regardless, it would be a good pickup. Houston has a high character coach and team. The environment could help Bryant flourish. You never know, and it's doubtful he could resurrect some character, but combined with AJ, he could be lethal.

GP
03-04-2007, 07:52 PM
He plays with tenacity, though.

Eric Moulds was like an old gentleman out there: "Oh, pardon me....excuse me, can I get open please?"

I don't like his attitude, either, but I'd take him over Lelie....and like another poster said: It frees us up to not spend a draft pick on a WR so that we can use the pick on something else.

Let him and Walter battle out for the No. 2 spot. Worse case scenario is we de-activate him for attitiude problems and then trade him. There are ways around his attitude.

Better than Lelie, better than a rookie. We cut Moulds, so let's do it.

Navy_Chris
03-04-2007, 07:53 PM
He plays with tenacity, though.

Eric Moulds was like an old gentleman out there: "Oh, pardon me....excuse me, can I get open please?"

I don't like his attitude, either, but I'd take him over Lelie....and like another poster said: It frees us up to not spend a draft pick on a WR so that we can use the pick on something else.

Let him and Walter battle out for the No. 2 spot. Worse case scenario is we de-activate him for attitiude problems and then trade him. There are ways around his attitude.

Better than Lelie, better than a rookie. We cut Moulds, so let's do it.

Wouldn't you be upset if you never got the ball and you always had single coverage? not to mention, you were an all pro wideout. i would.

wolfscar
03-04-2007, 08:38 PM
I hope we don't pick Bryant. The Texans have been good about keeping the guys with attitude problems out of the locker room - I hope we continue to do that.

Anybody know what's going on with Donte Stallworth? His price has taken a major downstep after the injury problems of last year but he's a grade A receiver when he's fit. And not an @$$****, to boot.

281
03-04-2007, 08:41 PM
i wouldnt mind bryant for our #2 spot.

El Tejano
03-04-2007, 09:34 PM
I would look at the 04 game against The Browns and take a look at how good Bryant played. I think he can help out our team alot. Bryant stretches the field and right now that is the kind of player we need for Andre Johnson and for a better run game.

Kaiser Toro
03-04-2007, 09:48 PM
If Carr is your QB, you do not take Bryant. Bryant is the type of personality that would murder an already fragile QB's ego.

newport texan
03-04-2007, 09:53 PM
If Carr is your QB, you do not take Bryant. Bryant is the type of personality that would murder an already fragile QB's ego.

that being said..i hope the Texans sign him

LORK 88
03-04-2007, 10:49 PM
If we sign him for 1 or 2 years, I wouldn't mind. This guy has the attitude of TO minus the level of talent and the national media reporting every little detail so we need to get him short term if we do.

TheCD
03-04-2007, 10:51 PM
I don't know about him. I live here in Cowboy Country and have seen him quite a bit. While I couldn't quote you any stats on him, I was very unimpressed with him during his tenure here. Granted, that was more in a #1 role, so he might have more success here as a #2.

It seems to me though that the Texans are going to do something big (or at least big to us) with a WR after cutting Moulds, maybe draft CJ (that is, if they trade up of course)?

The only question I have is that of whether or not Bryant is a speed/vertical receiver. I can't recall, but that seems like what our FO is looking for opposite AJ.

mexican_texan
03-04-2007, 10:55 PM
If Carr is your QB, you do not take Bryant. Bryant is the type of personality that would murder an already fragile QB's ego.
So if the team made a Simpsons on Ice show, Carr would be Ralph and Bryant would be Nelson? Is that what you meant to say?

Kaiser Toro
03-04-2007, 11:00 PM
So if the team made a Simpsons on Ice show, Carr would be Ralph and Bryant would be Nelson? Is that what you meant to say?

I am thinking more along the lines of the Ned Flanders-Homer Simpson relationship.

Mr teX
03-05-2007, 08:03 AM
he's a mini TO, career malcontent & i hope to god the texans pass on him.

Haams
03-05-2007, 08:15 AM
I hope we don't pick Bryant. The Texans have been good about keeping the guys with attitude problems out of the locker room - I hope we continue to do that...


I keep hearing this argument and I don't like it. While I'll agree that character is important I wouldn't use the Texans as an example. All we've shown is that we can pick the type of guys that make a really bad football team. I think it's important to have good character in the leaders of your team, after that...you have to expect the character of the stars to keep the role players in line. We have plenty of "good guys", now it's time to get some playmakers.

TEXANRED
03-05-2007, 08:35 AM
I keep hearing this argument and I don't like it. While I'll agree that character is important I wouldn't use the Texans as an example. All we've shown is that we can pick the type of guys that make a really bad football team. I think it's important to have good character in the leaders of your team, after that...you have to expect the character of the stars to keep the role players in line. We have plenty of "good guys", now it's time to get some playmakers.

On that note Pacman Jones may become availalbe soon................

Haams
03-05-2007, 08:45 AM
...and I would jump all over Pacman. Imagine if we added Pacman and Landry to secondary. If Mario stepped up and plays like we expect all of a sudden we be a scary defense. Mario, Dunta, DeMeco, Landry, Pacman...
That is assuming he keeps himself out of the big house.

Mr teX
03-05-2007, 08:51 AM
...and I would jump all over Pacman. Imagine if we added Pacman and Landry to secondary. If Mario stepped up and plays like we expect all of a sudden we be a scary defense. Mario, Dunta, DeMeco, Landry, Pacman...
That is assuming he keeps himself out of the big house.

With the way he's going, i'd say that the percentages are not with him.

U4ikrob
03-05-2007, 08:56 AM
I'd pass on Bryant - to much mouth & money - not enough production.

But looking at Wr - what about going after a guy like Stallworth? - Decent #2 - good production for the most part of his career and could be a good journeyman WR for us if the money is right.

thoughts?

infantrycak
03-05-2007, 09:19 AM
thoughts?

Less production than Bryant over the last two years, 5 times as much money to sign. Sure, let's do it.

dalemurphy
03-05-2007, 09:50 AM
Less production than Bryant over the last two years, 5 times as much money to sign. Sure, let's do it.

Don't forget, Stallworth is also always injured.

keyfro
03-05-2007, 10:12 AM
well i the real question is do we want to go into the season with kevin walters as our number 2 guy...can jerome mathis stay healthy and can he be the number 2 guy...if not then are we going to look at drafting a WR high in the draft...i've mentioned this before if the draft section of this board that every interview i read that rick smith has done about the draft there is one name he mentions every time and that's ted ginn jr....are we seriously thinking about taking this kid from ohio state

kcwilson
03-05-2007, 11:34 AM
Anybody know what's going on with Donte Stallworth? His price has taken a major downstep after the injury problems of last year but he's a grade A receiver when he's fit. And not an @$$****, to boot.

Stallworth is part of the NFL's substance abuse program, no real word on the number of issues and how many strikes against him, but it tends to make sense why New Orleans traded him and why his inbox isn't that full...
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/16835778.htm

SamuraiSword
03-05-2007, 12:46 PM
Cons: Not often do the terms "26-year old" and "journeyman" fit in the same sentence. Mouth rarely matches production.

Pros: Added value in that he likes to work with laundry. Only has to be paid for 14 weeks, since he's suspended for the first two.

Recommendation: Pass. The guy likes to show his rear (http://www.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2006/11/smootass.jpg) too much.

ARRRGGGGG I should of never touched the link:gun: