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tulexan
03-02-2007, 09:35 AM
According to ESPN (no link) Jake has just been traded to the Bucs for a mid round pick.

kastofsna
03-02-2007, 09:36 AM
whoa.

bah007
03-02-2007, 09:37 AM
I just saw it on ESPN2.

Too bad for all the Carr haters or Plummer lovers.

I'm just glad to hear that bum isnt gonna play in Houston.

dirty steve
03-02-2007, 09:39 AM
I just saw it on ESPN2.

Too bad for all the Carr haters or Plummer lovers.

I'm just glad to hear that bum isnt gonna play in Houston.
you could have done alot worse if you wanted to replace DC. i guess i have to replace the avatar now.

kastofsna
03-02-2007, 09:40 AM
welp, this is a great trade for the bucs. chris simms was never going to be the starter, and plummer is an excellent fit in gruden's offense. he's a savvy veteran, and gruden loves 'em.

Errant Hothy
03-02-2007, 09:41 AM
According to ESPN (no link) Jake has just been traded to the Bucs for a mid round pick.

For a mid round pick, we should have made this deal.

Exithios
03-02-2007, 09:44 AM
According to ESPN (no link) Jake has just been traded to the Bucs for a mid round pick.

LOL I posted on the rumor this morning before it was made semi-official.

http://forums.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=35899

I didn't want him in Houston any way. Good riddance.

nunusguy
03-02-2007, 09:44 AM
The Texans just lost their #1 option at QB !
Maybe they now rethink BQ, or another rookie QB ?

bah007
03-02-2007, 09:44 AM
For a mid round pick, we should have made this deal.

Why trade a mid round pick to get an older version of the QB we already have?

santo
03-02-2007, 09:45 AM
:doot: :yes: :dance2: :yahoo:

2BCF
03-02-2007, 09:46 AM
Schuab is still out there, Id rather have him anyway.

stingray
03-02-2007, 09:46 AM
I think it's more likely now that Brady Quinn will be coming here.

bah007
03-02-2007, 09:47 AM
Schuab is still out there, Id rather have him anyway.

Not for a 1st and a 3rd.

We have too many other needs in the draft.

stingray
03-02-2007, 09:49 AM
I got an email in this morning telling me there is a STRONG possibility that Atlanta has a deal to Detroit for Schaub.

Dosen' Detroit have to give up their first rounder for him?

kastofsna
03-02-2007, 09:49 AM
I got a message this morning telling me there is a STRONG possibility that Atlanta has a deal to Detroit for Schaub.
the #2 pick and a 3rd for schaub? atlanta better throw in the 10th, at least.

Errant Hothy
03-02-2007, 09:50 AM
I got a message this morning telling me there is a STRONG possibility that Atlanta has a deal to Detroit for Schaub.

I wonder if it's for picks, players or a mix.

edo783
03-02-2007, 09:53 AM
the #2 pick and a 3rd for schaub? atlanta better throw in the 10th, at least.

IF this is a deal, they likely will just swap spots in the 1st and Detroit give them their third for Schaub and then Atlanta will IMO, likely draft CJ or AP. Kinda makes sense I guess.

tulexan
03-02-2007, 09:53 AM
I assume Atlanta would be moving up for Calvin Johnson.

Too bad for Calvin, he will be another WR in a long line of "bad receivers who can't get it done for Vick" in Atlanta.

stingray
03-02-2007, 09:55 AM
I assume Atlanta would be moving up for Calvin Johnson.

Too bad for Calvin, he will be another WR in a long line of "bad receivers who can't get it done for Vick" in Atlanta.

I think Vick will be long gone when Calvin hits his prime.

Porky
03-02-2007, 09:56 AM
Why trade a mid round pick to get an older version of the QB we already have?

Cause he is better and gives us a much better chance to win. :ok:

tulexan
03-02-2007, 09:56 AM
Would be really interesting if Atlanta traded up to get Quinn or Russell, but they won't.

kastofsna
03-02-2007, 09:57 AM
I got the message from a credible source but he isn't sure it's done yet. Atlanta and Detroit swap first round and "other picks" and Detroit ends up with Schaub and Atlanta gets the LOCAL kid Calvin Johnson with the Detroit pick. Not enough details to mention really (I usually pass this kind of stuff around in PM's to some of you guys), but I figured I'd share with you guys since it should be a whirlwind day.
makes sense. but oakland is taking johnson. still, they can get joe thomas. or adrian peterson.

Mr. White
03-02-2007, 09:57 AM
I think it's more likely now that Brady Quinn will be coming here.

Bringing in Quinn would hurt Carr's feelings. Don't expect to see him here.

stingray
03-02-2007, 09:59 AM
You are totally misreading what they are doing...they are trying to gear up for him...not move away from him.

I understand that. Of course they are gearing up for him. I'm just saying that Calvin will not reach his potential until Vick is gone which will be about three years. Vick will probably end up on another team and Atlanta will finally give up on him. But if Atlanta does trade for him, it will be Vicks last stand.

kastofsna
03-02-2007, 10:01 AM
i guess if vick is gone immediately after johnson is drafted...

stingray
03-02-2007, 10:05 AM
You haven't seen Johnson play then....He isn't a project.

Yes i know he isn't a project. The guy will probably be in eight to ten pro bowls. But I don't think he will reach his potential until Vick is moved if he goes to Atlnata that is. Case in point. Andre would probably be a top two recievier if he had a better QB than Carr. Imagine Aj with the Seahawks or Rams. And I know Calvin will be better than Aj but having a good QB does help out.

TEXANRED
03-02-2007, 10:12 AM
Interesting, so what does this do to the Draft:

Assuming rumors are correct:
Oakland-Russell
Atlanta-CJ
Cleveland-AP
TB-?
Arizona-?
Washington-Adams
Minn-Ginn
Houston-?

So does TB roll with Plummer or drafting Quinn to sit for a few years. Or maybe they take Joe Thomas to strengthen there line. If they take Joe T I would have to expect:

Arizona taking Levi Brown. You don't just cut your starting left tackle unless your sure you can replace him or upgrade.

That would still leave Lynch, Branch, Okaye, Landry on the board.

So do we trade down a few spots pick up extra picks and be happy with one of those four? Might be worth a few extra pics.

SESupergenius
03-02-2007, 10:25 AM
Now Now Vinny, play nice.

I thought for sure with the comments that Kubiak and Smith have said recently that they would make a move to get a QB that could legitimately compete with Carr. I don't see that happening right now and honestly don't think that the Texans can afford to lose Carr at this point. Plummer to me was an upgrade at the QB spot, but anything else is an equal or a step down.

tulexan
03-02-2007, 10:27 AM
Interesting, so what does this do to the Draft:

Assuming rumors are correct:
Oakland-Russell
Atlanta-CJ
Cleveland-AP
TB-?
Arizona-?
Washington-Adams
Minn-Ginn
Houston-?

So does TB roll with Plummer or drafting Quinn to sit for a few years. Or maybe they take Joe Thomas to strengthen there line. If they take Joe T I would have to expect:

Arizona taking Levi Brown. You don't just cut your starting left tackle unless your sure you can replace him or upgrade.

That would still leave Lynch, Branch, Okaye, Landry on the board.

So do we trade down a few spots pick up extra picks and be happy with one of those four? Might be worth a few extra pics.

Wouldn't the rumors having us at 3 picking Peterson?

Hottoddie
03-02-2007, 01:10 PM
Interesting, so what does this do to the Draft:

Assuming rumors are correct:
Oakland-Russell
Atlanta-CJ
Cleveland-AP
TB-?
Arizona-?
Washington-Adams
Minn-Ginn
Houston-?

So does TB roll with Plummer or drafting Quinn to sit for a few years. Or maybe they take Joe Thomas to strengthen there line. If they take Joe T I would have to expect:

Arizona taking Levi Brown. You don't just cut your starting left tackle unless your sure you can replace him or upgrade.

That would still leave Lynch, Branch, Okaye, Landry on the board.

So do we trade down a few spots pick up extra picks and be happy with one of those four? Might be worth a few extra pics.

This could work out for the Texans & AP getting together. Here's how I see it playing out:

1) Oakland-Russell
2) Atlanta-CJ
3) Arizona-Joe Thomas--Cleveland agrees to trade down with Arizona, thinking they can get AP with the 5th pick.
4) Houston-Adrian Peterson--Houston trades up to pick AP before Cleveland.
5) Cleveland-Brady Quinn-- Having missed out on AP, they settle for Quinn.
6) Washington-Branch--Big DT to plug the middle.
7) Minn-???
8) Tampa Bay-Anderson?

kastofsna
03-02-2007, 01:11 PM
This could work out for the Texans & AP getting together. Here's how I see it playing out:

1) Oakland-Russell
2) Atlanta-CJ
3) Arizona-Joe Thomas--Cleveland agrees to trade down with Arizona, thinking they can get AP with the 5th pick.
4) Houston-Adrian Peterson--Houston trades up to pick AP before Cleveland.
5) Cleveland-Brady Quinn-- Having missed out on AP, they settle for Quinn.
6) Washington-Branch--Big DT to plug the middle.
7) Minn-???
8) Tampa Bay-Anderson?
cleveland would just take peterson at 3...