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HuttoKarl
02-27-2007, 11:34 AM
According to some poster on the Texans ESPN message board. Anyone here that can back that info up?

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
02-27-2007, 11:35 AM
Landry 4.35
Nelson 4.53

HuttoKarl
02-27-2007, 11:36 AM
some more forty times

Chris Houston 4.32
LaRon Landry 4.35
Marcus McCauley 4.38
Leon Hall 4.39
Travarous Bain 4.43
David Irons 4.44
Michael Griffin 4.45
Aaron Ross 4.47
Brandon Merriweather 4.50
Ndukwe, Chinedum 4.51
Reggie Nelson 4.53

thunderkyss
02-27-2007, 11:39 AM
Isn't that kinda fast for a safety?? has he ever played Corner??

real
02-27-2007, 11:39 AM
That's going to make Landry's stock http://www.crftp.com/gallery/riseUp.jpg

Dr. Toro
02-27-2007, 11:45 AM
some more forty times

Chris Houston 4.32
LaRon Landry 4.35
Marcus McCauley 4.38
Leon Hall 4.39
Travarous Bain 4.43
David Irons 4.44
Michael Griffin 4.45
Aaron Ross 4.47
Brandon Merriweather 4.50
Ndukwe, Chinedum 4.51
Reggie Nelson 4.53

Ross allayed speed concerns, but game film shows him getting torched by Figurs and Ginn (maybe the two fastest guys in football). Griffin helped himself, will continue to make plays and mistakes in the NFL. Landry looks like an absolute beast with that time, probly deserves to be considered in the Ed Reed/Polamalu echelon. Houston looks like a real physical specimen with that time and his 27 reps, there were a few speed concerns there.

nunusguy
02-27-2007, 11:49 AM
Isn't that kinda fast for a safety?? has he ever played Corner??

Too fast. He's wasted there if he has any cover skills at all, and I assume
he does since he's so highly rated. This may be our corner to play across
from Dunta.
Leon Halls 40 isn't too shabby either.

real
02-27-2007, 11:51 AM
Too fast. He's wasted there if he has any cover skills at all, and I assume
he does since he's so highly rated. This may be our corner to play across
from Dunta.

There's more to being a corner than being fast.

texans83
02-27-2007, 11:51 AM
I thought they were saying Nelson was going to be one of the fastest guys at the combine and prob convert to corner? I guess not I would much rather take Landry at 8 then now if he did run that. if he is good enough we could put him at corner but if not keep him at strong. win win situation

Spled
02-27-2007, 11:51 AM
I'd have no complaints if the Texans took him.

thunderkyss
02-27-2007, 11:52 AM
Too fast. He's wasted there if he has any cover skills at all, and I assume
he does since he's so highly rated. This may be our corner to play across
from Dunta.
Leon Halls 40 isn't too shabby either.

If he can play corner, I'd have no problem taking him with the #8 pick. None whatsoever.

thunderkyss
02-27-2007, 11:53 AM
There's more to being a corner than being fast.

I think he acknowledged that by saying, "if he has any cover skills at all"

He might not be the best cover guy right now, but you can teach that stuff... you can't teach 4.35

texans83
02-27-2007, 11:54 AM
I think he acknowledged that by saying, "if he has any cover skills at all"

He might not be the best cover guy right now, but you can teach that stuff... you can't teach 4.35

This is very true. Man does anyone know what daunte runs, just wondering

real
02-27-2007, 11:56 AM
I think he acknowledged that by saying, "if he has any cover skills at all"

He might not be the best cover guy right now, but you can teach that stuff... you can't teach 4.35

Good luck with that....

El Amigo Invisible
02-27-2007, 11:57 AM
I really like Nelson but I think Landry has more potential.

Vinny
02-27-2007, 11:59 AM
Too fast. He's wasted there if he has any cover skills at all, and I assume
he does since he's so highly rated. This may be our corner to play across
from Dunta.
Leon Halls 40 isn't too shabby either.

too fast? that's kind of ridiculous to be considered "too fast". In today's NFL you WANT fast FS's because they are often locked in man coverage.....corners have better hips than Landry....you have to be able to sprint backwards and have fluid hips to turn and run...just because you run fast doesn't mean you can play cornerback or we would just see every track and field guy back there.

Spled
02-27-2007, 11:59 AM
We know we'll be seeing Vince Young and Manning for the next decade, so Landry would be helpful.

nunusguy
02-27-2007, 12:00 PM
If he can play corner, I'd have no problem taking him with the #8 pick. None whatsoever.
I totally agree with you Thunderkyss !
This is great news for us, and for Landry. He made himself a ton of greenbacks today. And it also makes our #8 more valuable.
And being a safety, I assume this guy can hit. I'm thinking he's also got good size ?
I'm excited about this, because it gives us another very real option for #8 -
not a reach.
I sure hope that 4.35 is legitimate ?

kastofsna
02-27-2007, 12:02 PM
leon hall really made a case for himself here.

Vinny
02-27-2007, 12:02 PM
Landry reminds me of a faster Blaine Bishop. They were both very physical and have good instincts.

nunusguy
02-27-2007, 12:03 PM
There's more to being a corner than being fast.
I realize that, but if you don't have it - well remember the Buffalo game when Petty got burnt twice by the speed of the Bills WR ?
You gotta be 4.3 or no more than 4.4 to cover the AJs, the Chad Johnsons, etc.
End of story.

real
02-27-2007, 12:07 PM
I realize that, but if you don't have it - well remember the Buffalo game when Petty got burnt twice by the speed of the Bills WR ?
You gotta be 4.3 or no more than 4.4 to cover the AJs, the Chad Johnsons, etc.
End of story.

I don't think thats true...


I'd rather have a Corner with not as much speed but great technique vs. a guy with a lot of speed with little technique

Dr. Toro
02-27-2007, 12:07 PM
too fast? that's kind of ridiculous to be considered "too fast". In today's NFL you WANT fast FS's because they are often locked in man coverage.....corners have better hips than Landry....you have to be able to sprint backwards and have fluid hips to turn and run...just because you run fast doesn't mean you can play cornerback or we would just see every track and field guy back there.

That's exactly right. No such thing as too fast. Feet, hips, toughness, strength, hops, and speed; that makes a corner. Landry would make life a lot tougher on Young and Manning.

kastofsna
02-27-2007, 12:08 PM
with big guys like calvin johnson running in the sub-4.4 range, you pretty much have to have great speed at corner to succeed in the league.

kastofsna
02-27-2007, 12:08 PM
I don't think thats true...


I'd rather have a Corner with not as much speed but great technique vs. a guy with a lot of speed with little technique
these arguments are ridiculous. no one is saying that technique isn't important. it's that speed IS. how bout this, i'll take a guy with great speed and good technique over a guy with great speed and no technique.

ThaShark316
02-27-2007, 12:09 PM
I realize that, but if you don't have it - well remember the Buffalo game when Petty got burnt twice by the speed of the Bills WR ?
You gotta be 4.3 or no more than 4.4 to cover the AJs, the Chad Johnsons, etc.
End of story.

Al Harris would hit you with his dreads if he read that.

Nah i'm just playing man....speed and technique helps....can't be fast and dumb, lol.

Dr. Toro
02-27-2007, 12:11 PM
37.5" vert on Landry... gotta like that. A case can be made that he's the best defensive player, and that's an instant impact position, unlike DE or DT. I think that's a value pick at #8.

BuffSoldier
02-27-2007, 12:12 PM
If what has been posted is accurate with Landry and Hall both posting sub 4.4fourty yard dashes, I think the Texans would be smart to take one. My personal preference would have to be Landry, being as we need more help at FS than we need at CB IMO, plus this is a decent CB pool.

real
02-27-2007, 12:13 PM
these arguments are ridiculous. no one is saying that technique isn't important. it's that speed IS. how bout this, i'll take a guy with great speed and good technique over a guy with great speed and no technique.

What is your point ?

We're talking about switching a players position based on speed.

Can you connect the dots ?

nunusguy
02-27-2007, 12:18 PM
just because you run fast doesn't mean you can play cornerback or we would just see every track and field guy back there.
Obviously !
But a DB with the best cover skills in the world will get the dog dung burnt out
of himself if he's no faster than say 4.6 when he's trying to handle a speed reciever.
Without the raw speed, a DB is not even in the conversation to play CB
against the fast WRs.

Porky
02-27-2007, 12:18 PM
I'm with Vinny. A FS who can actually run sideline to sideline with great range, and can cover would be great. Why move him to corner? Wouldn't you rather have an ultrafast safety who is a standout at his position? As a corner, he would not be in a class by himself in terms of speed, but as a safety? How many safety's run a sub 4.4. Second issue is skills and physical attributes. We know he has the skills to be a safety, but why then force a round peg into a square hole? I don't get it. Put him at FS, and let him roam the backfield.

HuttoKarl
02-27-2007, 12:18 PM
speed, hips, technique....WHO CARES???

All I know is that Landry would be much easier on the heart every Sunday than our current "Free" Safety options.

real
02-27-2007, 12:27 PM
I'm with Vinny. A FS who can actually run sideline to sideline with great range, and can cover would be great. Why move him to corner? Wouldn't you rather have an ultrafast safety who is a standout at his position? As a corner, he would not be in a class by himself in terms of speed, but as a safety? How many safety's run a sub 4.4. Second issue is skills and physical attributes. We know he has the skills to be a safety, but why then force a round peg into a square hole? I don't get it. Put him at FS, and let him roam the backfield.

pretty much.

real
02-27-2007, 12:28 PM
Obviously !
But a DB with the best cover skills in the world will get the dog dung burnt out
of himself if he's no faster than say 4.6 when he's trying to handle a speed reciever.
Without the raw speed, a DB is not even in the conversation to play CB
against the fast WRs.

What does that have to do with moving Landry to corner ?

BuffSoldier
02-27-2007, 12:29 PM
I wouldnt even consider moving this guy to CB, his coverage skills are adequate but not great, plus any team that moves him to CB would not be playing to his strengths. The best part of his game is his ability to play both the pass and the run very well. His run support is major part of his game, ala Bob Sanders.

disaacks3
02-27-2007, 12:30 PM
I'm with Vinny. A FS who can actually run sideline to sideline with great range, and can cover would be great. Why move him to corner? Wouldn't you rather have an ultrafast safety who is a standout at his position? As a corner, he would not be in a class by himself in terms of speed, but as a safety? How many safety's run a sub 4.4. Second issue is skills and physical attributes. We know he has the skills to be a safety, but why then force a round peg into a square hole? I don't get it. Put him at FS, and let him roam the backfield. Exactly! Remember, it's not as if we've already got good quality at FS right now. I want a cover-corner too, but fill the glaring need with a perfect fit if it's there.

Spled
02-27-2007, 12:32 PM
I like the way he gets after the quarterback -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvKaO78Ov2I&mode=related&search=

kastofsna
02-27-2007, 12:35 PM
What is your point ?

We're talking about switching a players position based on speed.

Can you connect the dots ?
there are no dots. speed is vital. but no one is talking about taking speed over technique.

nunusguy
02-27-2007, 12:39 PM
The 40-yard dash times for the first group of defensive backs were phenomenal. Among the highlights were safety LaRon Landry of LSU running a 4.32, Chris Houston of Arkansas (4.35), Leon Hall of Michigan (4.38), Michael Griffin of Texas (4.41), Tarell Brown of Texas (4.48) and Michael Coe of Alabama State (4.49). Overall, it was a Very fast group.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/10026017
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Gil Brandt has even faster times for Landry & Hall than origionally reported here.

WillyP
02-27-2007, 12:49 PM
The 40-yard dash times for the first group of defensive backs were phenomenal. Among the highlights were safety LaRon Landry of LSU running a 4.32, Chris Houston of Arkansas (4.35), Leon Hall of Michigan (4.38), Michael Griffin of Texas (4.41), Tarell Brown of Texas (4.48) and Michael Coe of Alabama State (4.49). Overall, it was a Very fast group.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/10026017
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Gil Brandt has even faster times for Landry & Hall than origionally reported here.

Brandt got Landry and Houston's times reversed. Houston was definitely the fastest, but both players made an impact today. I'm leaning toward Landry because of his physicality. The guy is a beast. The Texans defense desperately needs a ball-hawking safety who can blow people up. LaRon Landry could be that guy.

yourfavoritetexan42
02-27-2007, 12:50 PM
If we can land Michael Lewis, than I would rather us get a dt... but if we don't...wow get Landry...he is looking good.

real
02-27-2007, 12:51 PM
but no one is talking about taking speed over technique.

If you're talking about moving a fast FS to corner, you kinda are.

Errant Hothy
02-27-2007, 12:56 PM
I may finally be convinced that Landry is worth the #8 pick. Leon Hall may be the player who helped himself teh most at the combine, nothing like running sub 4.4 to remove the concerns that you may be to slow, Griffin helped his stock, Sabby Piscitelli 6'3" 224 lbs (SS) ran a 4.44 and might be worth looking at in Round 3, Ross did not help himself today (and I still think he is overrated)

And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the replace teh turf in Indy recently, because alot of guys are running faster then we thought they would. Is the new track fast?

El Tejano
02-27-2007, 12:56 PM
We know we'll be seeing Vince Young and Manning for the next decade, so Landry would be helpful.

You know, that makes a lot of sense.

kastofsna
02-27-2007, 12:59 PM
If you're talking about moving a fast FS to corner, you kinda are.
not at all...

Spled
02-27-2007, 01:06 PM
You know, that makes a lot of sense.

Another hit mix -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bip9KlMxd04&mode=related&search=

El Tejano
02-27-2007, 01:09 PM
I also think that alot of the games we lost in the 4th quarter were due to no fear in the WR to go across our middle. I would like to get a player that ends that once and for all.

I would like Landry at #8. Seems like reality is settling back in on who we are going to get.

texasguy346
02-27-2007, 01:18 PM
Landry would be a great fit at #8 as our FS. He's shown the ability to make big plays all through his collegiate career. I have no doubt that he'd be capable of making big plays in the NFL as well.

beerlover
02-27-2007, 01:26 PM
I think LaRon would be a safe pick for the Texans, what you see is what you get & he sure is someone we need :winky:

brewhaus
02-27-2007, 01:26 PM
Landry would be a great fit at #8 as our FS. He's shown the ability to make big plays all through his collegiate career. I have no doubt that he'd be capable of making big plays in the NFL as well.

I agree Texasguy346, Landry could be IMO one of those "impact players" the Texans are in such dire need of.

Nawzer
02-27-2007, 01:29 PM
Landry was and still is my top choice if A.D. is not available. I think he can make a huge difference for us and improve our horrible secondary immediately. Now with this combine performance I'm even more convinced that the Texans should draft LaRon Landry if Adrian is not available.

TexansSeminole
02-27-2007, 01:43 PM
This is huge for LaRon. I think before he was in that 10-15 value range and now I think he has moved into the 5-10 range.

Like Vinny said you wan't your FS to run that fast if he has to cover deep against wide receivers like Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, and Dallas Clark. The guy has shown that he PLAYS sideline to sideline. Now he proved that he can run with almost anybody. I really do think this puts Landry into the elite class of FS prospects of the last 10 years. Before 8 was a bit of a reach for him but now I think it is the perfect spot to take him.

Don't move LaRon to corner. The guy played the safety position since he was a FRESHMAN. He isn't a junior coming out this year, he is a SENIOR. He's got a good amount of experience at the position against good competition. He is a rare talent at the position and he has a knack for it...no need to move him...its not like he isn't good at it.

keyfro
02-27-2007, 01:46 PM
i must say i'm impressed with the speed landry showed...so i'll cast my vote for him being the 8th pick...i remember the last time i was hoping we would pick up a FS in the first round and that was sean taylor...this guy is faster...not as big...but still lays the lumber...might be similiar to brian dawkins

vtech9
02-27-2007, 01:57 PM
with Landry posting that kind of time, I might have to change my opinion of taking a safety that high in the draft. Another reason that I would consider Landry at the #8 pick is that he not only hits hard, but he wraps up when he makes the hit.

Ole Miss Texan
02-27-2007, 01:58 PM
Landry definitly made a legit case for him being drafted top 10. before, the critics would have said it'd be a reach.

I've been very high on him for the longest of all the players i've liked. the only thing that worried me was his speed and coverage skills. He is EXCELLENT against the run, and can blitz and get after the quarterback. he's a wrap up tackler. He has the size i like being over 6' and weighing 213 lbs.

With him posting that speed, i'm in awe. AP will be gone by our spot. I want landry.

Getting Michael Lewis shouldn't effect our decision too much. He's a SS and landry is a FS. FS is a much bigger need for us. I would love to have landry back there...it would help faggins out a lot or a young corner in the 2nd.

Joe Thomas, Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson, Laron Landry. Those are my top 4...and we might get Landry.

1.Landry
2.Ross, Hughes (top cb)
3.Offensive Line (LT)
4.Center? if he's rated high enough

TexansSeminole
02-27-2007, 01:58 PM
i must say i'm impressed with the speed landry showed...so i'll cast my vote for him being the 8th pick...i remember the last time i was hoping we would pick up a FS in the first round and that was sean taylor...this guy is faster...not as big...but still lays the lumber...might be similiar to brian dawkins

I think he may be more similiar to Ed Reed. He seems to put that same attitude on his defense as Ed does. He was the leader of the LSU defense in his junior and senior years and they were all hitting hard and making big plays.

This guy would add a dimension to our defense that we have never had before. Adding LaRon to DeMeco, Mario, and Dunta would give us a playmaker at each level of the defense.

Champ
02-27-2007, 02:09 PM
Laron is a trash talking machine!

http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2007/0226/nfl_w_landry_412.jpg

Please_Evolve
02-27-2007, 02:19 PM
I think i'll add that i am imrpessed with the 40 time myself and i usally am not big on them but...it makes it easier to to see him being the #8 for some people. I'm in the camp saying either Levi Brown at 8 or even before the 40 time and workout i still thought Laron was the D guy we should be looking at. As of right now idon't think either pick looks bad.

Truroyalty......why in the heck would you want to take a 4 year starter at FS in the SEC and turn him into a CB?

TexanAddict
02-27-2007, 02:28 PM
I've been a supporter of Landry at #8 and the only way I wouldn't take him there is if we land Hamlin or Grant in FA (which I also support) or AD is available (becoming less and less likely).

real
02-27-2007, 02:38 PM
I
Truroyalty......why in the heck would you want to take a 4 year starter at FS in the SEC and turn him into a CB?

Go back and re-read brother.

nunusguy
02-27-2007, 02:41 PM
Don't move LaRon to corner.
OK. But if you want to take a DB with the #8, draft Hall who "WILL" play corner unless you rate LaRon as a truly superior player to Hall.
Both players had good times today and both, Hall in particular, purged the
"you might not be fast enough" label.
And as far as concerns about this track overstating their speed, they turned
in the same kind of 40s as AD did on the same track, so if they can run with him I'm sufficiently impressed.

Please_Evolve
02-27-2007, 02:47 PM
I've been a supporter of Landry at #8 and the only way I wouldn't take him there is if we land Hamlin or Grant in FA (which I also support) or AD is available (becoming less and less likely).

I'd like to see us sign Hamlin or Lewis and also draft Landry if we're not going to take Levi Brown. I liek that idea. Allows a lot of options what to do in our secondary. Take a second tier CB in FA or draft a CB later in the draft and slowly move him in. In the mean time you got two safeties that can help out TONS in giving the Dline and backers time to get to the QB.

texans83
02-27-2007, 02:51 PM
I'd like to see us sign Hamlin or Lewis and also draft Landry if we're not going to take Levi Brown. I liek that idea. Allows a lot of options what to do in our secondary. Take a second tier CB in FA or draft a CB later in the draft and slowly move him in. In the mean time you got two safeties that can help out TONS in giving the Dline and backers time to get to the QB.

thats what I think they should do also, we deff need to address the secondary and i perfer we go free agent corner and draft landry at 8 then that secondary should press more time for Williams to get in there and rack up some sacks

Please_Evolve
02-27-2007, 02:53 PM
Go back and re-read brother.

my bad on the misread.

Mr teX
02-27-2007, 03:10 PM
Yep, Landry is that dude period.

run-david-run
02-27-2007, 03:13 PM
If he can play corner, I'd have no problem taking him with the #8 pick. None whatsoever.

Umm, then why not take Chris Houston? If we were to take any DB at 8, I would rather it be Houston from what I have seen and heard of him.

Mr teX
02-27-2007, 03:13 PM
Landry reminds me of a faster Blaine Bishop. They were both very physical and have good instincts.

Yes, good comparison.

run-david-run
02-27-2007, 03:14 PM
I don't think thats true...


I'd rather have a Corner with not as much speed but great technique vs. a guy with a lot of speed with little technique

Phillip Buchanon, anyone? 4.3 speed...and little else

run-david-run
02-27-2007, 03:21 PM
not at all...

how are you not? Landry is decent in coverage, but now seems to have great speed. Compared to someone like Faggins on our team, I would say Faggins is better then Landry in coverage and technique, but certanly not in speed. Since the original poster said he would move Landry to corner because of his speed despite his lack of technique...you seem to be the only one missing the connection...nothing new there

texans83
02-27-2007, 03:21 PM
Phillip Buchanon, anyone? 4.3 speed...and little else

OHH, Please dont mention that name:tease:

TexansSeminole
02-27-2007, 03:22 PM
Umm, then why not take Chris Houston? If we were to take any DB at 8, I would rather it be Houston from what I have seen and heard of him.

I think it's about balance. We have got to get a good player at the safety position if we want our defense to be balanced.

Ole Miss Texan
02-27-2007, 03:23 PM
Landry is officially my pick if AP is gone.

However I am really scared Arizona may select him. Before you say 5 is too high for Landry, I've seen a couple mocks that have had him there before his 40time. Arizona's pass defense is just as bad as ours.

I'm still confused as to their o-line. With Leinart being left handed, do they really want Joe Thomas? could he even play RT...Some say Levi Brown may be better suited for RT and if that's the case I think Arizona may like that.

It wouldn't be a great idea for us to pay top dollar for a RT so why would it be for Ari to for a LT? Joe Thomas will probably be gone before 5. So I hope Arizona selects Levi Brown or maybe someone on the D-Line.

Now after the combine i have Landry as my top rated defensive player. and 4 overall (behind Joe Thomas, Calvin Johnson, and Adrian Peterson) for the texans board.

texans83
02-27-2007, 03:23 PM
I think it's about balance. We have got to get a good player at the safety position if we want our defense to be balanced.

we can pick up a corner via free agency

Ole Miss Texan
02-27-2007, 03:24 PM
as long as its NOT nate clements. $$$$$$$

Mr teX
02-27-2007, 03:27 PM
This is good news, it helps me get over the reality check i suffered a couple of days ago when AD did his thing. Landry was the other guy i was high on.

Meloy
02-27-2007, 03:28 PM
Has anyone considered if any of these guys can run back a punt?

htownfoozball
02-27-2007, 03:28 PM
why not take meriweather or griffin in round 2 and pick up houston or brown in the 1st? is landry going to be THAT much better than those two?

Ole Miss Texan
02-27-2007, 03:29 PM
Has anyone considered if any of these guys can run back a punt?

Havn't thought of that, but I have thought about Landry touchdowns via Interception, Fumble Recoveries, and block punts/kicks.

real
02-27-2007, 03:30 PM
why not take meriweather or griffin in round 2 and pick up houston or brown in the 1st? is landry going to be THAT much better than those two?


Merriweather isn't in the class of Landry, and Griffin is more of a SS.

Ole Miss Texan
02-27-2007, 03:30 PM
I think Patrick Willis or Laron Landry will win DROY next season. And I hope either would be on this team.

texans83
02-27-2007, 03:30 PM
as long as its NOT nate clements. $$$$$$$

yea this is true also I think who ever does sign him he will just get his final check and kind take it easy. I want someone who really hasent made himself well known but has the speed and is just kinda young although he might make a few mistakes at first we know he could allways get better and plus with landry over the top it would help out who ever we pick up.

TexansSeminole
02-27-2007, 03:44 PM
why not take meriweather or griffin in round 2 and pick up houston or brown in the 1st? is landry going to be THAT much better than those two?

Actually, I really do think he will be. I guess you could say the same about Houston. Are we sure that he is going to be much better than Hall, Revis, or Hughes.

htownfoozball
02-27-2007, 03:46 PM
Merriweather isn't in the class of Landry, and Griffin is more of a SS.

meriweather is still a very good safety. he has good coverage skills and is good against the run as well.

the question you have to ask is will landry and whoever we take in round 2 be as good as okoye/willis and meriweather. why take 1 elite player and another guy who is just ok when you can get 2 very good players? i just think we get a lot more value with meriweather in the 2nd and taking okoye, willis, or houston in the 1st.

TexansSeminole
02-27-2007, 03:49 PM
meriweather is still a very good safety. he has good coverage skills and is good against the run as well.

the question you have to ask is will landry and whoever we take in round 2 be as good as okoye/willis and meriweather. why take 1 elite player and another guy who is just ok when you can get 2 very good players? i just think we get a lot more value with meriweather in the 2nd and taking okoye, willis, or houston in the 1st.

Well think of it this way. No team banks on getting a specific player in later rounds. They may hope but in no way do they BANK on it and select someone in the previous round hoping to get a specific player in a round later on. I think the real question is which do you want more? I don't think you can ask the question: "will landry and whoever we take in round 2 be as good as okoye/willis and meriweather" and expect the answer to play into strategy because there is no way to know meriweather will be there.

real
02-27-2007, 03:51 PM
meriweather is still a very good safety. he has good coverage skills and is good against the run as well.

the question you have to ask is will landry and whoever we take in round 2 be as good as okoye/willis and meriweather. why take 1 elite player and another guy who is just ok when you can get 2 very good players? i just think we get a lot more value with meriweather in the 2nd and taking okoye, willis, or houston in the 1st.

Why are you assuming that the guy we take in rd. two will be just "ok" ?

What if we Go Landry and Kalil ? or Landry and Posluszny ?

And Merriweather might be moved to corner on the next level.

Right now my top three for the first rd. would be: Peterson, Okoye, Landry

TexanAddict
02-27-2007, 03:53 PM
Jerome Solomon asks landry what he sould bring to the Texans:

Landry Audio (http://images.chron.com/content/news/photos/blogs/sportscast/landry022707.mp3)

As posted on Solomon's blog (http://blogs.chron.com/jeromesolomon/2007/02/texans_shopping_list_laron_lan_1.html)

htownfoozball
02-27-2007, 04:00 PM
Why are you assuming that the guy we take in rd. two will be just "ok" ?

What if we Go Landry and Kalil ? or Landry and Posluszny ?

And Merriweather might be moved to corner on the next level.

Right now my top three for the first rd. would be: Peterson, Okoye, Landry

because kalil will go round 1. pos may still go round 1 as well, but the only LB i would be willing to take on day 1 is willis. no other LB's are worth taking in rounds 1-3 IMO. there is a big dropoff at our need positions after the 1st round, that's quite obvious, except at safety.

Ugoh and Staley both have big questions. None of the CB's projected in round 2 impress me. running back is just ok.

TexansMVP
02-27-2007, 04:01 PM
Another hit mix -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bip9KlMxd04&mode=related&search=

Nice find. Landry looks solid.

Ole Miss Texan
02-27-2007, 04:03 PM
Why are you assuming that the guy we take in rd. two will be just "ok" ?

What if we Go Landry and Kalil ? or Landry and Posluszny ?


Right now my top three for the first rd. would be: Peterson, Okoye, Landry

I would love to have a draft like that Landry and then either Kalil or Poz.

I really don't see Kalil being available to us...he will most likely go very late 1st or in the top 5 picks of the 2nd rd.

I think we have a better shot at getting Posluszny in the second. he could be a great selection to have next to demeco!! but he could go late 1st rd too.

TexanAddict
02-27-2007, 04:15 PM
because kalil will go round 1. pos may still go round 1 as well, but the only LB i would be willing to take on day 1 is willis. no other LB's are worth taking in rounds 1-3 IMO. there is a big dropoff at our need positions after the 1st round, that's quite obvious, except at safety.

Ugoh and Staley both have big questions. None of the CB's projected in round 2 impress me. running back is just ok.

I disagree. David Irons is underrated and showed he has good coverage skills at the Senior Bowl and speed at the combine. Hughes has been productive during his career, but might be a little slow, really depends on his individual workout. Ross may be overrated, but has been productive and could prove to be a solid #2 at the next level.

htownfoozball
02-27-2007, 04:17 PM
I disagree. David Irons is underrated and showed he has good coverage skills at the Senior Bowl and speed at the combine. Hughes has been productive during his career, but might be a little slow, really depends on his individual workout. Ross may be overrated, but has been productive and could prove to be a solid #2 at the next level.

would you take irons in round 2 with the 7th pick? no.

TexanAddict
02-27-2007, 04:29 PM
would you take irons in round 2 with the 7th pick? no.

I disagreed that there were no impressive CBs available in the 2nd, which there more than likely will be. And if Irons is the best available at that point, I wouldn't be upset if he was drafted there, however, I would rather get him in the 3rd.

Navy_Chris
02-27-2007, 04:31 PM
I disagreed that there were no impressive CBs available in the 2nd, which there more than likely will be. And if Irons is the best available at that point, I wouldn't be upset if he was drafted there, however, I would rather get him in the 3rd.

.....the last report I read had the GEICO caveman clocking in at 4.26

TexanAddict
02-27-2007, 04:34 PM
.....the last report I read had the GEICO caveman clocking in at 4.26

:confused:???:confused:

Navy_Chris
02-27-2007, 04:35 PM
:confused:???:confused:

this guy can do it all. he can play QB, LT, C, FS, AND CB....all at the same time. we gotta pick him up.

real
02-27-2007, 04:42 PM
because kalil will go round 1. pos may still go round 1 as well, but the only LB i would be willing to take on day 1 is willis. no other LB's are worth taking in rounds 1-3 IMO. there is a big dropoff at our need positions after the 1st round, that's quite obvious, except at safety.

Ugoh and Staley both have big questions. None of the CB's projected in round 2 impress me. running back is just ok.

So let me get this straight....

You want to reach in the first, and then say a prayer that Merriweather falls to us in the second....

gotcha'.....:ok:

htownfoozball
02-27-2007, 05:04 PM
I disagreed that there were no impressive CBs available in the 2nd, which there more than likely will be. And if Irons is the best available at that point, I wouldn't be upset if he was drafted there, however, I would rather get him in the 3rd.

irons is 25 years old. had a torn ACL. ran 4.44, which is pretty average for a CB. he's not a 2nd round pick IMO.

would you rather have

landry
irons
kareem brown

or

okoye
meriweather
irons

TexanAddict
02-27-2007, 05:15 PM
After the Senior Bowl and Combine both Meriweather's and Irons' stock are on the rise, and I've seen some projecting Meriweather into the late first and Irons into the mid-second. I'll just echo what some have already said and say that you can't bank on a player to be there when you pick in later rounds. I will agree that getting Meriweather in the 2nd and Irons in the 3rd would be a pretty great draft, although I would rather have Landry over Meriweather.

threetoedpete
02-27-2007, 05:17 PM
irons is 25 years old. had a torn ACL. ran 4.44, which is pretty average for a CB. he's not a 2nd round pick IMO.

would you rather have

landry
irons
kareem brown

or

okoye
meriweather
irons

Well I banged on him pretty hard all off season. I hope you guys are correct that we're getting Sean Taylor and not Erick Turner. 4.35, the vertical leap, ...brings me back to the origanal question I've had on Leron Landry all off season...where are the big plays ? How can someone posting such extrodinary numbers look so ordinary in the games ? I dunno. Just hope you're correct. Awefull high pick for an ordinary saftey which we could cover later in day one. I don't trust guys playing not to get hurt.

Mr teX
02-27-2007, 05:17 PM
.....the last report I read had the GEICO caveman clocking in at 4.26

He has nothing on the burger king, that dude ran 4.16 & hits like ronnie lott.

Mr teX
02-27-2007, 05:18 PM
Well I banged on him pretty hard all off season. I hope you guys are correct that we're getting Sean Taylor and not Erick Turner. 4.35, the vertical leap, ...brings me back to the origanal question I've had on Leron Landry all off season...where are the big plays ? How can someone posting such extrodinary numbers look so ordinary in the games ? I dunno. Just hope you're correct. Awefull high pick for an ordinary saftey which we could cover later in day one. I don't trust guys playing not to get hurt.

The way this guy throws his body around, i don't know if you really meant that.

dbspi
02-27-2007, 05:24 PM
Merriweather isn't in the class of Landry, and Griffin is more of a SS.

you have this backward, Merriweather excels in cover and he is FS compare to Griffin who is more suited to run support and excels in that department, and he is more SS then Meriweather.

Had it not been for his character concerns, Merriweather would have been drafted in the first round and still has a chance to be drafted in first round by some one. More then likely he will fall in the top shelf of second round and some one will draft him solely based on his talent alone.

I would love to draft Merriweather in second round but I don't know if the Texans will due to off field problems.

Here is good article on Chronicle by John McClain on Monday:

When owner Bob McNair interviewed Smith about replacing Charley Casserly, he emphasized the importance of character. Smith and coach Gary Kubiak came from the Denver Broncos, an organization that accepts players with issues.

Because of McNair's philosophy, the Texans have bypassed some talented players in the draft and free agency.

"I'm not going to change my philosophy," McNair said. "We put a priority on character. It's important for us to win with high-character people, not just on our roster but throughout our organization.

"Not only do we represent the Texans, but we represent the city of Houston. We want our fans to be proud of the type of players we have."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/4584518.html

Navy_Chris
02-27-2007, 05:25 PM
He has nothing on the burger king, that dude ran 4.16 & hits like ronnie lott.

maybe i need to rethink my previous thinking. maybe we can work a trade, that way we can get both.

threetoedpete
02-27-2007, 05:27 PM
So let me get this straight....

You want to reach in the first, and then say a prayer that Merriweather falls to us in the second....

gotcha'.....:ok:

No what he's tring to post is that with the tallent on the board, if the guy is there that fills a major need...can I call offensive tackle a major need with two down with inuries and the grey beard, Erick Winston, street free agents and whoever we draft currently sitting atop our depth chart ? When there is in fact, very tallenteed explosive palyers who will slide into rounds two and three who can more than cover the postion, more than upgrade the position...without over paying for the position, later in the draft ? And picking a guy in the eigth slot who is projected as a twelveth pick, is technically a reach. But not as much of a reach as gambling on what will be left on the boards at the 39, 71 picks or beyound at the offensive tackles. Or on the under producing saftey or the oft injured RB. Gotta better than fair shot hitting two holes going with Levi first then the DB as passing on the OLT once again, then getting your DB help. I'd say you were the one with the five year old prayer there XT. How's that been working out for us there big fella ?

real
02-27-2007, 05:32 PM
you have this backward, Merriweather excels in cover and he is FS compare to Griffin who is more suited to run support and excels in that department, and he is more SS then Meriweather.


What the He!! are you saying ?

You don't make any sense....

htownfoozball
02-27-2007, 05:37 PM
So let me get this straight....

You want to reach in the first, and then say a prayer that Merriweather falls to us in the second....

gotcha'.....:ok:

reach in the 1st? who said i was even picking anyone? i just said the only LB i would be willing to take in the 1st would be willis, and that wouldnt be at the 8th pick. and with alot of guys rising like kalil, houston, and a bunch of WR's, i think meriweather will be there in the 2nd.

real
02-27-2007, 05:39 PM
No what he's tring to post is that with the tallent on the board, if the guy is there that fills a major need...can I call offensive tackle a major need with two down with inuries and the grey beard, street free agents and whoever we draft currently sitting atop our depth chart ? when there is in fact, very tallenteed explosive palyers who will slide into round two who can more than cover the postion...without over paying for the position, later in the draft ? And picking a guy in the eigth slot who is projected as a twelveth pick, is technically a reach. But not as much of a reach as gambling on what will be left on the boards at the 39, 71 picks or beyound at the offensive tackles. Gotta better than fair shot hitting two hole going with Levi first then the DB as passing on the OLT once again, then getting your DB help. I'd say you were the one with the seven year old prayer there XT. How's that working out for you there big fella ?


I am having a hard time following you.....

But i'll clue you in and start from the beggining.

We were never talking about Levi...

His original post stated that he'd rather grab a corner in the first (which at our position would be a reach), and wait for Merriweather orGriffin in the second....

So that means we would be passing up one of the best players at a position of need, to reach on a Corner....

Then all we would have is hope, and good faith waiting on Merriweather...

And Griffin is more of a SS...Not great in coverage, but decent....Good hitter, likes to play close to the line of scrimmage....Think of him as a Bob Sanders type player...

Edit: My bad, I just went back and saw that you mentioned Brown...All I saw was Houston...

But that aside it still wouldn't make sense if you had Landry rated as a better prospect than those two...

real
02-27-2007, 05:46 PM
reach in the 1st? who said i was even picking anyone? i just said the only LB i would be willing to take in the 1st would be willis, and that wouldnt be at the 8th pick. and with alot of guys rising like kalil, houston, and a bunch of WR's, i think meriweather will be there in the 2nd.

You did.

why not take meriweather or griffin in round 2 and pick up houston or brown in the 1st? is landry going to be THAT much better than those two?


If the Texans think Landry is a better prospect than Brown and Houston( I do), then it doesn't make sense to pass him up for another position just because you can get another decent FS in the second. That strategy would make sense if this was our last draft ever but that is just plain crazy IMO.

threetoedpete
02-27-2007, 05:48 PM
I am having a hard time following you.....

But i'll clue you in and start from the beggining.

We were never talking about Levi...

His original post stated that he'd rather grab a corner in the first (which at our position would be a reach), and wait for Merriweather orGriffin in the second....

So that means we would be passing up one of the best players at a position of need, to reach on a Corner....

Then all we would have is hope, and good faith waiting on Merriweather...

And Griffin is more of a SS...Not great in coverage, but decent....Good hitter, likes to play close to the line of scrimmage....Think of him as a Bob Sanders type player...

Which is nothing new.

We should be talking about Levi Brown...above all others.

They take the corner in the first as with Leron I'll live with that. Griffin inspite of the mockers will fall intot he second. He is nothing like Bob Sanders...in anyway. In fact just the oposite is true...Sander's stock was falling this time last year because of the hieght issues. Sanders is a savage hitter, Griffin does not bring that with him.

Merrywheather and Landry are not the only Safties on this board that can improve this team at that position. I agree with him a top end corner would do that. But we don't need that above filling the hole at the o-line. Inspite of what the news guy has out front, OT should be the pick and has been that way in four out of six years.

real
02-27-2007, 05:50 PM
Which is nothing new.

We should be talking about Levi Brown...above all others.

They take the corner in the first as with Leron I'll live with that. Griffin inspite of the mockers will fall intot he second. He is nothing like Bob Sanders...in anyway. In fact just the oposite is true...Sander's stock was falling this time last year because of the hieght issues. Sanders is a savage hitter, Griffin does not bring that with him.

Merrywheather and Landry are not the only Safties on this board that can improve this team at that position. I agree with him a top end corner would do that. But we don't need that above filling the hole at the o-line. Inspite of what the news guy has out front, OT should be the pick and has been that way in four out of six years.

I honestly believe you are just clueless....

The end.

Vinny
02-27-2007, 06:11 PM
The single biggest reason that Sanders dropped was due to an injury issue. I heard Polian interviewed and he just loved the young kid but said that he felt that he would fall because most teams were afraid of his injury file. If I have this right, the Colts traded back the year Sanders was taken and still picked him up. I believe he said that his doctor told him Sanders would likely miss the first 8 games his rookie season, but the condition wasn't likely to be ongoing.

threetoedpete
02-27-2007, 06:17 PM
I honestly believe you are just clueless....

The end.

If only there were a mirror between us. Over pay for an oft injured RB, over pay for a saftey...one of us is indeed clueless.

Clash_Fan3605
02-27-2007, 06:22 PM
I also think that alot of the games we lost in the 4th quarter were due to no fear in the WR to go across our middle. I would like to get a player that ends that once and for all.

I would like Landry at #8. Seems like reality is settling back in on who we are going to get.

I agree. We seriously need to draft this guy. In the 2nd round we should try to get Chris Houston, only thing is his stock is going up. Put Landry at 8 would be sweet.

Ole Miss Texan
02-27-2007, 06:34 PM
Landry is the most complete Safety in this class. Why are you so concerned about the 'big' plays...the highlight reel? While those are fun to watch and all...when it comes to d-backs there is often one of those gambles they take and miss on that leads to a TD as there is when its a big play.

Landry is just a solid player that doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Nobody really noticed Demeco last year. He's just a solid player that gets the job done and is smart, he makes the rest of the team better to make those plays. Much like Patrick Willis, he was pretty quiet in the national media untill the end of his senior year, he's just a dominant Lb that makes plays sideline to sideline and a true leader, he doesn't necessarily make the 'highlight' reel type of plays. now those are LB's not FS's.

Landry imo is a lot like Demeco. He's solid in his fundamentals. He is a much better tackler than just about every single safety in this class. he doesn't hit the defender with his shoulder every play, he tackles them. He's a proven leader in the secondary for the tigers and have played all four years. I think he's the type of safety you take in the first...even if it is top ten because you won't get the same qualities with any other person.

The only question I had about landry was his speed. I wasn't sure he would fast enough for FS in the nfl for a top ten pick. I have been flirting with taking him there depending on whos on the board. I thought he'd run a 4.45 or a 4.5, but when he came out with a 4.35 ....i was like damn! that answers the only question i had about him and threw it in my face.

Same 40 time as Calvin Johnson.

here's some highlights:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bip9KlMxd04

Texas_Thrill
02-27-2007, 06:38 PM
As usual folks get a 40 time and fall in love. Not that its a knock on Landry but seriously he's just the FLAVOR of the moment on this board. Nothing wrong with 40 times but a 40 time is not FOOTBALL time. I'd rather have someone who is FOOTBALL fast and not 40 fast. Actually I'd prefer both but if I had to just have one it would be Football SPEED.

*yawwwwn* wake me up when its a week before the draft then everyone will probably actually be firm in who they want their picks to be.

remember there is still the FA period that hasn't started.

Smokedawg
02-27-2007, 06:54 PM
Landry is the most complete Safety in this class. Why are you so concerned about the 'big' plays...the highlight reel? While those are fun to watch and all...when it comes to d-backs there is often one of those gambles they take and miss on that leads to a TD as there is when its a big play.

Landry is just a solid player that doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Nobody really noticed Demeco last year. He's just a solid player that gets the job done and is smart, he makes the rest of the team better to make those plays. Much like Patrick Willis, he was pretty quiet in the national media untill the end of his senior year, he's just a dominant Lb that makes plays sideline to sideline and a true leader, he doesn't necessarily make the 'highlight' reel type of plays. now those are LB's not FS's.

Landry imo is a lot like Demeco. He's solid in his fundamentals. He is a much better tackler than just about every single safety in this class. he doesn't hit the defender with his shoulder every play, he tackles them. He's a proven leader in the secondary for the tigers and have played all four years. I think he's the type of safety you take in the first...even if it is top ten because you won't get the same qualities with any other person.

The only question I had about landry was his speed. I wasn't sure he would fast enough for FS in the nfl for a top ten pick. I have been flirting with taking him there depending on whos on the board. I thought he'd run a 4.45 or a 4.5, but when he came out with a 4.35 ....i was like damn! that answers the only question i had about him and threw it in my face.

Same 40 time as Calvin Johnson.

here's some highlights:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bip9KlMxd04

Exactly, i thought he was just like Demeco too. both have natural instincts and are always around the ball.

Smokedawg
02-27-2007, 06:56 PM
As usual folks get a 40 time and fall in love. Not that its a knock on Landry but seriously he's just the FLAVOR of the moment on this board. Nothing wrong with 40 times but a 40 time is not FOOTBALL time. I'd rather have someone who is FOOTBALL fast and not 40 fast. Actually I'd prefer both but if I had to just have one it would be Football SPEED.

*yawwwwn* wake me up when its a week before the draft then everyone will probably actually be firm in who they want their picks to be.

remember there is still the FA period that hasn't started.

Laron is fast on the field too, agaisnt Miami he chased down Devin Hester from behind to make the tackle, and we know how fast Devin is.

TexansSeminole
02-27-2007, 07:00 PM
As usual folks get a 40 time and fall in love. Not that its a knock on Landry but seriously he's just the FLAVOR of the moment on this board. Nothing wrong with 40 times but a 40 time is not FOOTBALL time. I'd rather have someone who is FOOTBALL fast and not 40 fast. Actually I'd prefer both but if I had to just have one it would be Football SPEED.

*yawwwwn* wake me up when its a week before the draft then everyone will probably actually be firm in who they want their picks to be.

remember there is still the FA period that hasn't started.

Wrong time to pull the "40 times don't matter" card. LaRon plays fast and and has been high on this board since before the beginning of the offseason. LaRon is indeed "FOOTBALL fast". This just proves yet how fast he actually is. I think you can look past a player running a bit slower than expected before you can look past a player that runs a very fast time. If Sidney Rice runs a 4.5 or 4.6 or whatever I can easily look past that because I have seen him play and I know he plays fast enough to beat the guy in front of him and it's not all about straight ahead speed with him but more about body control and shiftyness. But if I think Landry is a fast player maybe a 4.45 (which is plenty fast for a FS) but he runs a 4.35 for some reason I cannot look past that.

Ole Miss Texan
02-27-2007, 07:06 PM
As usual folks get a 40 time and fall in love. Not that its a knock on Landry but seriously he's just the FLAVOR of the moment on this board. Nothing wrong with 40 times but a 40 time is not FOOTBALL time. I'd rather have someone who is FOOTBALL fast and not 40 fast. Actually I'd prefer both but if I had to just have one it would be Football SPEED.

*yawwwwn* wake me up when its a week before the draft then everyone will probably actually be firm in who they want their picks to be.

remember there is still the FA period that hasn't started.

Yea, That's why I said That I've liked landry for a VERY long time. He and Joe Thomas were my favorites for our selection back before last season even started.

I like everything about landry and the way he plays. That would be enough for me to select him at 8, although there may be players rated higher than him. I'll admit that I'd probably take a few players ahead of him. But now the combine is over and we've seen everybody.

His forty speed just is that little extra icing on top. although i havn't studied his game film, i've watched every game of his i can, and living in the SEC that's a lot. I love his game...this is just extra.

I like to think of it as We Need Landry bad. imo. If we selected him before at 8, the media would be saying its' a need pick and a reach. Now they will say that it is a legitimate pick and we shouldn't get ridiculed for it like we have been for the past year.

Ole Miss Texan
02-27-2007, 08:07 PM
How did Landry do in the other drills. Anybody know how many reps he benched?? I looked on nfl.com but couldn't find his stuff too well.

run-david-run
02-27-2007, 08:25 PM
I think it's about balance. We have got to get a good player at the safety position if we want our defense to be balanced.

That was in response to somone saying we should draft Landry and move him to corner, since he ran a 4.35. I realize we need an upgrade at both CB and FS, with more emphasis on immediately improving the FS position.

beerlover
02-27-2007, 08:37 PM
after watching LaRon Landry run & interview he reminded me alot of Ronnie Lott who happened to be the 8th overall pick in 81 drafted to play CB switched to safety in 85. both seem solid as rocks LaRon just travels faster and is about 10 lbs heavier, thats a dangerous combination :ouch:

also I think he is equal/better pick @ #8 than last years #8 Donte Whitner or #7 Michael Huff safety/cb hybrids :)

Ole Miss Texan
02-27-2007, 08:44 PM
after watching LaRon Landry run & interview he reminded me alot of Ronnie Lott who happened to be the 8th overall pick in 81 drafted to play CB switched to safety in 85. both seem solid as rocks LaRon just travels faster and is about 10 lbs heavier, thats a dangerous combination :ouch:

also I think he is equal/better pick @ #8 than last years #8 Donte Whitner or #7 Michael Huff safety/cb hybrids :)

oooh. ronnie lott is his idol. i can see peyton and vince being on 'jacked up' next season...with the blitzes smith will use landry in.

tulexan
02-27-2007, 08:55 PM
If Peterson is not available, I think we should pick him. He could single handedly shore up our secondary.

Ole Miss Texan
02-27-2007, 09:00 PM
I'm also kinda hoping for a 1st round talent cb that slips to us in the 2nd. ..if Kalil is gone. say someone like aaron ross.
look at our young team!!!

D-LINE- 1st rd pick (mario)
LB- 2nd round pick (demeco)
S-1st round pick (landry)
CB-2nd rd pick (ross)

thats just the last two drafts...and would be a very young awesome defense for each position group.

Smokedawg
02-27-2007, 09:02 PM
Drafting Laron would give a leader to each of our defensive levels: Mario, Demeco, Dunta, and Laron. Is it just me but doesnt everyone of them hit hard, really hard! kinda scary.

Ole Miss Texan
02-27-2007, 09:22 PM
Drafting Laron would give a leader to each of our defensive levels: Mario, Demeco, Dunta, and Laron. Is it just me but doesnt everyone of them hit hard, really hard! kinda scary.

my thoughts exactly.

Ole Miss Texan
02-27-2007, 09:26 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=R211e6JdVew

I had seen this clip before and thought he was pretty quick but....man.

I guess this is that 4.35 speed that he can keep up in pads!

it's like a 25 yard blitz in which he destroys the bama QB. really shows his speed. watch out peyton.

keyfro
02-27-2007, 11:12 PM
i think the best thing about laron landry that everyone is going to like is aggressive playing style...this kid is not afraid to hit...he's not afraid to go for a pick...and unlike the current FS on our roster he has the speed to prevent the big play from happening like against buffalo this year...you put landry on the side faggins is covering and leave d-rob alone with the other reciever the offense is left with just slot and the flats...this makes for a tougher defense to throw on and with guys like peyton and young in our division we'll need that

TexansSeminole
02-28-2007, 02:23 AM
Check this article out about Landry: http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-t25-sugarbowl-lsu&prov=ap&type=lgns. It's about how he was glad he stayed in school for his senior year.

Here are a few quotes:

"I came back to be with my team," Landry said. "I came back because I had a lot of goals I wanted to accomplish with them. That's what we're doing."

Landry was the leading tackler on one of the nation's top defenses. No. 4 LSU (10-2) ranks in the top five nationally in both points (12.5) and yards (238.7) allowed.

"LaRon Landry is a tremendous player, and I think you're going to see him play (in the Pro Bowl) some day," LSU defensive coordinator Bo Pelini said. "If you talk to the scouts, I think they'll say the same thing. Not only is a great athlete, he's tough, he has high character, he's intelligent. He's the total package. I've been lucky to have worked with him."

Maddict5
02-28-2007, 10:44 AM
Like the rest of you, i am now officially on the Laron bandwagon.. i always thought he was a good, solid player but not worthy of the #8 pick..now however with that speed, as well as his instincts and tackling, i just hope hes still there to grab.....

also would like a cb, wr or kalil in the 2nd

HuttoKarl
02-28-2007, 11:25 AM
from www.draftdaddy.com in their blog section:

"Safety LaRon Landry and linebacker Patrick Willis were the best defensive players in Indy. Landry looks like a sure-fire top 10 pick, too. He had a Hall of Fame workout and his interviews were outstanding across the board. I heard Baltimore absolutely loves Landry, but they have no way of getting him. His interview with them was supposed to be things legends are made of. He actually broke down Baltimore's tape by memory because he had looked at every tape his brother gave him and he told DC Rex Ryan were mistakes were made from memory and what he would have done given the pre-snap reads."

There's our first round pick.

TexanAddict
02-28-2007, 11:34 AM
from www.draftdaddy.com in their blog section:

"Safety LaRon Landry and linebacker Patrick Willis were the best defensive players in Indy. Landry looks like a sure-fire top 10 pick, too. He had a Hall of Fame workout and his interviews were outstanding across the board. I heard Baltimore absolutely loves Landry, but they have no way of getting him. His interview with them was supposed to be things legends are made of. He actually broke down Baltimore's tape by memory because he had looked at every tape his brother gave him and he told DC Rex Ryan were mistakes were made from memory and what he would have done given the pre-snap reads."

There's our first round pick.

Wow. Now that is impressive!

Ole Miss Texan
02-28-2007, 11:44 AM
from www.draftdaddy.com in their blog section:

"Safety LaRon Landry and linebacker Patrick Willis were the best defensive players in Indy. Landry looks like a sure-fire top 10 pick, too. He had a Hall of Fame workout and his interviews were outstanding across the board. I heard Baltimore absolutely loves Landry, but they have no way of getting him. His interview with them was supposed to be things legends are made of. He actually broke down Baltimore's tape by memory because he had looked at every tape his brother gave him and he told DC Rex Ryan were mistakes were made from memory and what he would have done given the pre-snap reads."

There's our first round pick.

i was really hoping we interviewed him or at least talked to him. hopefully now he'll study our film and he'll come work out for us and really blow away kubiak and smith.

HuttoKarl
02-28-2007, 11:57 AM
i was really hoping we interviewed him or at least talked to him. hopefully now he'll study our film and he'll come work out for us and really blow away kubiak and smith.

Just knowing a player like that is in space behind DeMeco and Mario gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling. He's our guy. Everybody collectively believe and keep repeating it and it'll happen. LaRon Landry, Houston Texan.

texans83
02-28-2007, 12:22 PM
Just knowing a player like that is in space behind DeMeco and Mario gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling. He's our guy. Everybody collectively believe and keep repeating it and it'll happen. LaRon Landry, Houston Texan.

He would deff be the best pick in that situation and expecially if AP is gone, that will give us fans something to look foward to...:ok:

Maddict5
02-28-2007, 02:26 PM
i was really hoping we interviewed him or at least talked to him. hopefully now he'll study our film and he'll come work out for us and really blow away kubiak and smith.

they give him the 2006 texans v bills game...

Laron: 'I, um, wouldnt have let lee evans score 2 83yd bombs'

Kubiak + Smith: 'WE'RE SOLD!!!!!!!:yes: '

MojoX
02-28-2007, 02:53 PM
Man, a guy like Landry as the QB of the secondary would free up the Texans defense to do all kids of crazy blitzes. Following something I've heard Dungy say, I beleive a defense needs rare talent at each level. The Texans have Williams on the line and Ryans anchoring the center of the LB core. At 6'2" 213 lbs. with his speed and football ability, Landry would have an amazing effect on this team's defense.

Now, I know Vinny has mentioned drafting or signing a CB and moving Robinson to FS. The way Robinson hits, I believe that can work, but I like the idea of having a big, fast hard hitting safety even more.

Anyway it goes, the Texans might do well to not lose picks by trading up and just sticking at 8 and taking the BPA, who could very well be Landry.

Blu
02-28-2007, 02:59 PM
Pls...pls.... Texans !!!
Pick Landry at #8!
:shades:

TexansCanes
02-28-2007, 05:42 PM
I have always wanted to take Laron but always thought it might be a little bit of a reach. i was very surprised to hear what he ran, i was thinking more in the 4.4 range. i always thought of him as one of those players that played faster because of there instincts. i am kind of a homer, but he is one of my favorite players to watch in person, he flies all over the field and lays the wood. i think if AD isn't there, Landry needs to be the pick unless we address the FS need in FA.

edo783
02-28-2007, 08:52 PM
Landry would be a solid pick at 8. Others I would prefer, but would quibble one bit with Landry.

trutxn
02-28-2007, 09:18 PM
Too fast. He's wasted there if he has any cover skills at all, and I assume
he does since he's so highly rated. This may be our corner to play across
from Dunta.
Leon Halls 40 isn't too shabby either.

He would be a perfect fit at safety with the Texans, with his speed he is all over the field. Between him and Dunta, they could shut down half the field, if not more. Besides, with today's offenses, he would still cover in 3-WR sets.

Navy_Chris
02-28-2007, 09:20 PM
He would be a perfect fit at safety with the Texans, with his speed he is all over the field. Between him and Dunta, they could shut down half the field, if not more. Besides, with today's offenses, he would still cover in 3-WR sets.

The Landry pick would be too good of an idea. Why don't we let the Colts, Pats or Ravens have all the high-end talent like we do every season. I'm even hearing now that the 49ers are a productive offseason away from making a possible Super Bowl push. Gee, WHEN are we gonna hear that about the Texans?

V Man
02-28-2007, 10:06 PM
After watching his highlight clips, I really want him now. I always liked him, but seeing some of those hits. I just closed my eyes replayed the clip, but replace those QBs with Peyton or Young and my pulse just quickened.

keyfro
02-28-2007, 10:57 PM
i just want to throw this out there in support for drafting landry...can you imagine this defensive line-up

with the cuts today and probably tomorrow we might have enough cap room to sign nate clements...if so our defensive lineup would look like this

williams johnson maddox weaver
orr ryans greenwood
robinson earl/brown landry clements

personally i believe if you put earl and cc brown in heavy competition for the starting SS position earl will win it

signing clements would allow faggins to play nickelback

all we would have to do is add a OLB and either a DT or DE and this defense would be set

threetoedpete
03-01-2007, 12:54 AM
i just want to throw this out there in support for drafting landry...can you imagine this defensive line-up

with the cuts today and probably tomorrow we might have enough cap room to sign nate clements...if so our defensive lineup would look like this

williams johnson maddox weaver
orr ryans greenwood
robinson earl/brown landry clements

personally i believe if you put earl and cc brown in heavy competition for the starting SS position earl will win it

signing clements would allow faggins to play nickelback

all we would have to do is add a OLB and either a DT or DE and this defense would be set


And what do you do for your two starting offesive tackles...Draft 'em in rounds two and four ?

texaslifter
03-01-2007, 10:57 AM
boy, i like the idea of drafting laron landry.... that speed, that tackling ability, that experience, that conference... it just adds up to good things IMO

Mr teX
03-01-2007, 01:49 PM
As usual folks get a 40 time and fall in love. Not that its a knock on Landry but seriously he's just the FLAVOR of the moment on this board. Nothing wrong with 40 times but a 40 time is not FOOTBALL time. I'd rather have someone who is FOOTBALL fast and not 40 fast. Actually I'd prefer both but if I had to just have one it would be Football SPEED.

*yawwwwn* wake me up when its a week before the draft then everyone will probably actually be firm in who they want their picks to be.

remember there is still the FA period that hasn't started.

AD & Laron have been my guys since forever, I agree with you though, good post.

bckey
03-20-2007, 11:14 AM
Landry reminds me of a faster Blaine Bishop. They were both very physical and have good instincts.


I used to love to watch Blaine Bishop hit. I had forgotten about him.