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hot pickle
02-27-2007, 08:36 AM
1. Levi Brown-LT
2. Brandon Merriweather-S
3. Kevin Kolb-QB
4. Tim Crowder-DE
4. Justin Medlock-K
5. Ramonce Taylor-RB
6. Jacoby Jones-WR
7. George Batiste-OG

My First Ever Mock

HuttoKarl
02-27-2007, 08:58 AM
1. Levi Brown-LT
2. Brandon Merriweather-S
3. Kevin Kolb-QB
4. Tim Crowder-DE
4. Justin Medlock-K
5. Ramonce Taylor-RB
6. Jacoby Jones-WR
7. George Batiste-OG

My First Ever Mock


I actually really like it.

YoungTexanFan
02-27-2007, 09:01 AM
1. Levi Brown-LT
2. Brandon Merriweather-S
3. Kevin Kolb-QB
4. Tim Crowder-DE
4. Justin Medlock-K
5. Ramonce Taylor-RB
6. Jacoby Jones-WR
7. George Batiste-OG

My First Ever Mock

We only got an extra 4th for trading down to where Levi will be picked?

Also, why the f'ing hell does everyone insist on f'ing Kolb? Take him out, it makes your mock garbage. Also, no PK will be drafted by us in the 4th. That is stupid. The rest looks decent I guess.

beerlover
02-27-2007, 09:06 AM
We only got an extra 4th for trading down to where Levi will be picked?

Also, why the f'ing hell does everyone insist on f'ing Kolb? Take him out, it makes your mock garbage. Also, no PK will be drafted by us in the 4th. That is stupid. The rest looks decent I guess.

if not Kolb, why? who do you suggest to develop as the future QB of the Texans? or do you want to spend another 1st rd. pick (Quinn) on a QB?

personally I have no problem with drafting Kolb in the 3rd rd. I don't think Kubiak does either...if hes still there :aikido:

kastofsna
02-27-2007, 09:10 AM
We only got an extra 4th for trading down to where Levi will be picked?

Also, why the f'ing hell does everyone insist on f'ing Kolb? Take him out, it makes your mock garbage. Also, no PK will be drafted by us in the 4th. That is stupid. The rest looks decent I guess.
lol why does kolb make a mock garbage?

YoungTexanFan
02-27-2007, 09:15 AM
if not Kolb, why? who do you suggest to develop as the future QB of the Texans? or do you want to spend another 1st rd. pick (Quinn) on a QB?

personally I have no problem with drafting Kolb in the 3rd rd. I don't think Kubiak does either...if hes still there :aikido:

I don't have any QB I think would really excell that is worth his draft position to our team. This year's QB's all suck hard. This just isn't a good year to pick out our future franchise. It's like a few years ago with Alex Smith and Rogers. Neither one really stood out as elite. And I don't see any QB that I would consider a BPA type in any round before the 6th or so. I'm also sick of seeing Kolb being given to us by every freaking mock. He doesn't fit with our team and he's run the same system for at least the past 8 years.

texans83
02-27-2007, 09:24 AM
I agree I dont think we should get Kolb, he has been running the same system for the last 8yrs and im not sure if he is over rated or not. I think kolb could eventually be a back up some where but not a starter.

htownfoozball
02-27-2007, 09:26 AM
if kevin kolb didnt play at houston, would everyone still pick him? i think everyone is going through the vince young complex where you wanna pick every hometown qb from now on.

beerlover
02-27-2007, 09:29 AM
I don't have any QB I think would really excell that is worth his draft position to our team. This year's QB's all suck hard. This just isn't a good year to pick out our future franchise. It's like a few years ago with Alex Smith and Rogers. Neither one really stood out as elite. And I don't see any QB that I would consider a BPA type in any round before the 6th or so. I'm also sick of seeing Kolb being given to us by every freaking mock. He doesn't fit with our team and he's run the same system for at least the past 8 years.

last year was the motherload & we passed :shades: makes me think you draft a QB when you really need one & do we ever need one.

Alex Smith/Aaron Rodgers 2005.
David Carr/Joey Harrington 2002.

this is not a bpa scenero this is need, no one is saying Kolb is the best player available what we are saying he is the highest need player available that can do the type of things Kubiak wants from that position.

kastofsna
02-27-2007, 09:31 AM
kolb is a top 5 QB prospect. he fits the texans' offense fairly well actually. put him on the bench, teach him the ways of a pro-style offense....why not?

HuttoKarl
02-27-2007, 09:41 AM
Let's mock with all Texans...hey, that's our name right?:

1. Chris Houston CB (he's from Austin, so that counts)
2. Michael Griffin FS
3. Kevin Kolb QB
4. Kasey Studdard OG
5. Jarrett Hicks WR
6. Daniel Sepulveda P
7. Selvin Young RB


There. Sorry I didn't include any Aggies. I got Kolb and Hicks and Sepulveda though. Enjoy.

run-david-run
02-27-2007, 09:44 AM
1. Levi Brown-LT
2. Brandon Merriweather-S
3. Kevin Kolb-QB
4. Tim Crowder-DE
4. Justin Medlock-K
5. Ramonce Taylor-RB
6. Jacoby Jones-WR
7. George Batiste-OG

My First Ever Mock

Crowder will proably be gone mid 2nd, early 3rd round.

beerlover
02-27-2007, 09:50 AM
Crowder will proably be gone mid 2nd, early 3rd round.

that makes it a even better pick if he is there than does'nt it....the defensive end position is deep this year. several if they fall to the 4th I would consider Lamarr Woodley, Anthony Spencer, Justin Hickman, Jay Moore, Dan Bazruin just to name a few along with Crowder.

texans83
02-27-2007, 10:06 AM
if kevin kolb didnt play at houston, would everyone still pick him? i think everyone is going through the vince young complex where you wanna pick every hometown qb from now on.

I agree 100%. I read that he had a great interview session with the houston texans and that he felt they were interested. I just dont know about him. The guy dsent look on shape and what happens when he gets hit, we all know thats going to happen. Is he tough enough to get back up?

Reddevil63
02-27-2007, 10:08 AM
I'm also sick of seeing Kolb being given to us by every freaking mock. He doesn't fit with our team and he's run the same system for at least the past 8 years.
Hmmm mobile, accurate QB who excelled in a system of short to intermediate passes.. ya your right, that doesnt sound like Kubes system at all :rolleyes:

real
02-27-2007, 10:12 AM
Kolb is a pretty good QB. I like Kolb a lot actually. I think that with a Coach like Kubiak Kolb could turn into a good to great player. I hope we do draft Kolb in the third or fourth.

beerlover
02-27-2007, 10:13 AM
theres a couple links by McClain from the chron. check top left corner click on the beautiful Anna-Megan nerd look pic also Justice/McClain link http://www.chron.com/

Xman
02-27-2007, 10:17 AM
Ramonce shouldn't be drafted after his slow 40 time.

Kolb is worth a 3rd round pick (and I think he will be ther for us despite rumors that he goes earlier). As far as the Kolb hype, it is easier to hype a player you have seen play for 4 years - not just once or twice on tv.
My scouting report on Kolb:
Pocket Presence: As a freshman, he looked like a pro. He slid a little after that but bounced back as a senior. Overall, one of the best at feeling the pressure coming out in a long while.
Arm Strength: Solid. He can throw a deep ball with accuracy and timing. But, he has not shown the ability to throw the "fastball" across the middle.
Ability to make multiple reads (the one thing Carr can't do - which, until ths last year, we blamed on the OL): Kolb can make the reads and check off. The system required t and he has really gotten good at it.
Release: Slow. Will need work.

Biggest Weaknesses:
1) timing over the middle: This was weak during his junior year. It was not a noticable problem his senior year, but the team had a tendency to work the sidelines which left the middle open when he did go inside.
2) lack of risk: after reviewing game film, Kolb decided that hs interceptions were losing games. So, his senior year, he took fewer risks. His 30 Tds to only 4 Ints looks great and helped the team win. But, there were a few times that he should have taken more risks and counted on his arm to make it happen.
3) Release is an issue. Needs to be faster.

Biggest Strengths:
1) The deep ball: Wonderful timing going deep.
2) Leadership: He is a leader.

HuttoKarl
02-27-2007, 10:25 AM
theres a couple links by McClain from the chron. check top left corner click on the beautiful Anna-Megan nerd look pic also Justice/McClain link http://www.chron.com/

McClain is such a fat slob. Get that guy some slim fast, a Men's Wearhouse gift card and a haircut.

texans83
02-27-2007, 10:27 AM
I think he will go somewhere in the 3rd. If anything he will have to sit for itleast 2yrs and bulk up and get his release faster and build up his arm strength so he can throw the deep outs of posts.

beerlover
02-27-2007, 10:27 AM
Ramonce shouldn't be drafted after his slow 40 time.

Kolb is worth a 3rd round pick (and I think he will be ther for us despite rumors that he goes earlier). As far as the Kolb hype, it is easier to hype a player you have seen play for 4 years - not just once or twice on tv.
My scouting report on Kolb:
Pocket Presence: As a freshman, he looked like a pro. He slid a little after that but bounced back as a senior. Overall, one of the best at feeling the pressure coming out in a long while.
Arm Strength: Solid. He can throw a deep ball with accuracy and timing. But, he has not shown the ability to throw the "fastball" across the middle.
Ability to make multiple reads (the one thing Carr can't do - which, until ths last year, we blamed on the OL): Kolb can make the reads and check off. The system required t and he has really gotten good at it.
Release: Slow. Will need work.

Biggest Weaknesses:
1) timing over the middle: This was weak during his junior year. It was not a noticable problem his senior year, but the team had a tendency to work the sidelines which left the middle open when he did go inside.
2) lack of risk: after reviewing game film, Kolb decided that hs interceptions were losing games. So, his senior year, he took fewer risks. His 30 Tds to only 4 Ints looks great and helped the team win. But, there were a few times that he should have taken more risks and counted on his arm to make it happen.
3) Release is an issue. Needs to be faster.

Biggest Strengths:
1) The deep ball: Wonderful timing going deep.
2) Leadership: He is a leader.

thats really a great post. rep coming your way :thumbup

El Amigo Invisible
02-27-2007, 10:55 AM
kolb is a top 5 QB prospect. he fits the texans' offense fairly well actually. put him on the bench, teach him the ways of a pro-style offense....why not?

You can get a lot of good players (besides KolB) in the third . RUNNING BACK?????:stirpot:

El Tejano
02-27-2007, 11:35 AM
I like Taylor in the 5th. He didn't have a good combine but dude can make plays happen.

He was interviewed by us and we told him he is high on our list.

hot pickle
02-27-2007, 11:38 AM
Ramonce shouldn't be drafted after his slow 40 time.



haha, a 4.50 isnt that slow, and if he would of ran a 4.45, you wouldnt be sayin that, and really what is 0.05 seconds, just think about it

and i talked to ramonce this weekend and i think he'll stay out of trouble, he still bleeds burnt orange, and is loyal to UT even with the events that happened

yourfavoritetexan42
02-27-2007, 11:53 AM
Yall need to get off this hometown hero crap...kolb sux, doesn't even fit our scheme. Smith, Stanton are later round qbs that can fit our scheme, plus Kolb struggled in C-USA at times. c-usa defenses look like high school defense compared to nfl defenses.

kastofsna
02-27-2007, 12:00 PM
kolb sux
lol

El Tejano
02-27-2007, 12:05 PM
Yall need to get off this hometown hero crap...kolb sux, doesn't even fit our scheme. Smith, Stanton are later round qbs that can fit our scheme, plus Kolb struggled in C-USA at times. c-usa defenses look like high school defense compared to nfl defenses.

I agree. I just don't understand how those wanting Carr out of here would want Kolb who looks exactly like Carr did when he was drafted.

beerlover
02-27-2007, 12:23 PM
good job of hijacking another thread, sorry about that Brian- just trying to support what I still think is a good mock for the Texans & look what happens LOL (turns into another Carr hate thread) :wheel:

hot pickle
02-27-2007, 12:40 PM
its cool, but i think my favorite pick would be jacoby jones, for some reason i really like this guy, i dont know wich all-star game it was but he did pretty good, and i really liked him, hes a tall dude to

threetoedpete
02-27-2007, 03:35 PM
if kevin kolb didnt play at houston, would everyone still pick him? i think everyone is going through the vince young complex where you wanna pick every hometown qb from now on.

Nope. He's flabby. And he doesn't throw well on the run at all.

Navy_Chris
02-27-2007, 03:38 PM
1. Levi Brown-LT
2. Brandon Merriweather-S
3. Kevin Kolb-QB
4. Tim Crowder-DE
4. Justin Medlock-K
5. Ramonce Taylor-RB
6. Jacoby Jones-WR
7. George Batiste-OG

My First Ever Mock

You severely overrated Ramonce Taylor. Brian Robison looks better tha Tim Crowder and Jacoby Jones?? Maybe David Ball.

hot pickle
02-27-2007, 04:07 PM
You severely overrated Ramonce Taylor. Brian Robison looks better tha Tim Crowder and Jacoby Jones?? Maybe David Ball.

i dont think i overrate RT, hes a playmaker, and would be an instent contributer to the texans on special teams and offense

dbspi
02-27-2007, 04:08 PM
Its really true about Brian Robison, he really helped himself in the combine. I wouldn't mind picking him on second day at all. But I do wonder if he is 43 DE or 34 OLB based on his size. He also played well in Houston last month.

Some wonder if he is work out warrior? But I think its worth a gamble on second day if he last that long.

I am totally against Ramonce Taylor drafting him by Texans. I don't mind inviting him to camp as an UFA.

Navy_Chris
02-27-2007, 04:38 PM
i dont think i overrate RT, hes a playmaker, and would be an instent contributer to the texans on special teams and offense

but he'll be there in round 7. maybe as a UFA. no need to waste a 5th on him.

hot pickle
02-27-2007, 04:52 PM
k then draft him with the 6th or 7th round pick, in the past we just cut those guys anyways, whats wrong with gamblin on takin "bad" kids then

Navy_Chris
02-27-2007, 04:55 PM
k then draft him with the 6th or 7th round pick, in the paste we just cut those guys anyways, whats wrong with gamblin on takin "bad" kids then

I would love to see Ramonce in a Texans uni.

threetoedpete
02-27-2007, 05:21 PM
k then draft him with the 6th or 7th round pick, in the paste we just cut those guys anyways, whats wrong with gamblin on takin "bad" kids then

How about reggie bush light or one of the burner prospects at the four ?

hot pickle
02-27-2007, 05:22 PM
I would love to see Ramonce in a Texans uni.

there yeah go anyone else on the bandwagon for ramonce, hes my boy, and i know that he'll be ready to go and help the texans get to the promise land....

Xman
02-27-2007, 06:03 PM
Yall need to get off this hometown hero crap...kolb sux, doesn't even fit our scheme. Smith, Stanton are later round qbs that can fit our scheme, plus Kolb struggled in C-USA at times. c-usa defenses look like high school defense compared to nfl defenses.


I have sat and watched him for four years. I am NOT saying he is the answer. In fact, if he doesn't speed up his release, he will be a backup at best. BUT - if he speeds up his release, and fine tunes a few other things, he has the POTENTIAL to be an above average starter ( I will add that his touch on the deep ball would win a lot of fans - watchng AJ get one step down the sideline and knowing it was over would be a good feeling - plus his attitude and off field behavior would be positive).

That being said - I wouldn't take him in the second. But, I would definitely take him in the 3rd.