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Errant Hothy
02-23-2007, 10:09 AM
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/combine/results.html

Starting to get some sizes posted.

Olsen measured in at 6'6" 254 lbs
Levi Brown at 6'5.5" and 323
Thomas 6'6.5" and 311
Staley 6'6" 306
Blalock at 6'3.25" and 320 (good weight for him)
Kalil at 6'2.75" at 299
Datish 6'4" 302

That's all for now, early returns are that no big surprises on height and weight.

threetoedpete
02-23-2007, 10:22 AM
Kalil up from 287 since the senior bowl ...that's not good for us. Bottom five who could use a stud center on the o-line ?

Vinny
02-23-2007, 12:33 PM
Here is a blog search on the NFL combine...

http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=news&q=nfl+combine&ie=UTF8

Nawzer
02-23-2007, 01:02 PM
Thought Joe Thomas was 6'8" but at 6'6" he still a huge man. Would love to see him in a Texans uni this year but that's a long shot.

kastofsna
02-23-2007, 02:44 PM
Adrian Peterson at 6'1.5 217 lbs.

dirty steve
02-23-2007, 02:47 PM
is there a way we can find out who the Texans are paying "extra special" attention to in interviews, etc--kind of like at the Senior Bowl?

kastofsna
02-23-2007, 02:57 PM
is there a way we can find out who the Texans are paying "extra special" attention to in interviews, etc--kind of like at the Senior Bowl?
it'll leak in the next few days.

dirty steve
02-23-2007, 03:02 PM
thanks kast--

does anybody think Quinn will be forced to do more at the combine than he initially wanted to get back in the mix for the Raiders or the Browns possibly? i had heard that he wasnt going to do a full workout at the combine but still had visions of being drafted at the top.

Errant Hothy
02-23-2007, 03:04 PM
Apparently C. Johnson weghted in at 239

and J. Russel at close to 265.

Both a touch heavier then expected.

Meloy
02-23-2007, 03:06 PM
thanks kast--

does anybody think Quinn will be forced to do more at the combine than he initially wanted to get back in the mix for the Raiders or the Browns possibly? i had heard that he wasnt going to do a full workout at the combine but still had visions of being drafted at the top.If I was Quinn's agent seeing how his stock has fallen, I'd protect my percentage by having him do whatever any team with a top ten pick wanted.

dirty steve
02-23-2007, 03:06 PM
doesnt 239 approach TE levels? that seems really heavy for a WR. not saying calvin johnson cant ball at that weight, but man, where is the seperation going to come from?

YoungTexanFan
02-23-2007, 03:06 PM
Apparently C. Johnson weghted in at 239

and J. Russel at close to 265.

Both a touch heavier then expected.

If CJ breaks 4.4 like he should, at that weight, with his height, and with his skills, he should be deemed the best WR prospect in the history of football.

kastofsna
02-23-2007, 03:07 PM
quinn doesn't have to do anything at the combine. if he has a great pro day, he's good. teams remember what happened most recently, so when that pro day comes in a few weeks, and if he does well, he'll be fine. now, if he doesn't do so hot, then he's really screwed. so he has more pressure on him, but he'll be fine.

russell needs to trim down just a tad.

kastofsna
02-23-2007, 03:07 PM
If CJ breaks 4.4 like he should, at that weight, with his height, and with his skills, he should be deemed the best WR prospect in the history of football.
he already is. which is why i can't even imagine the raiders passing on him for some average QB prospect like russell. makes no sense.

YoungTexanFan
02-23-2007, 03:07 PM
doesnt 239 approach TE levels? that seems really heavy for a WR. not saying calvin johnson cant ball at that weight, but man, where is the seperation going to come from?

Well, he has always been said to have 4.3 speed, so if he does it at that weight, there will be plenty of seperation.

YoungTexanFan
02-23-2007, 03:08 PM
quinn doesn't have to do anything at the combine. if he has a great pro day, he's good. teams remember what happened most recently, so when that pro day comes in a few weeks, and if he does well, he'll be fine. now, if he doesn't do so hot, then he's really screwed. so he has more pressure on him, but he'll be fine.

russell needs to trim down just a tad.

No joke. You could mistake Russell for a DE.

kastofsna
02-23-2007, 03:15 PM
btw:

NFL | Russell to work out at Pro Day
Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:18:03 -0800
NFL Draft prospect JaMarcus Russell (LSU) said in an interview on NFL Network Friday, Feb. 23, he will wait until his Pro Day at LSU to work out for scouts instead of working out at the NFL Combine.

so that's good for quinn.

threetoedpete
02-23-2007, 03:26 PM
btw:

NFL | Russell to work out at Pro Day
Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:18:03 -0800
NFL Draft prospect JaMarcus Russell (LSU) said in an interview on NFL Network Friday, Feb. 23, he will wait until his Pro Day at LSU to work out for scouts instead of working out at the NFL Combine.

so that's good for quinn.

:ok: Well you got me on that one. Quinn makes up some ground.


Doug Free is considerably heavier than his rooster numbers in the program. 323...burritoes. See if he still has a 5.0 in the tank.

threetoedpete
02-23-2007, 03:47 PM
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070222/SPORTS0101/702220331/1126

Smoke ?

threetoedpete
02-23-2007, 03:52 PM
Here is a blog search on the NFL combine...

http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=news&q=nfl+combine&ie=UTF8

Groupings by position:

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1144&CID=638736

kiwitexansfan
02-23-2007, 04:01 PM
Apparently C. Johnson weghted in at 239

and J. Russel at close to 265.

Both a touch heavier then expected.

Anybody else seeing Russell as a Leftwhich clone??

nunusguy
02-23-2007, 04:04 PM
If CJ breaks 4.4 like he should, at that weight, with his height, and with his skills, he should be deemed the best WR prospect in the history of football.

Last years stud TE, Vernon Davis, IIRC ran a sub 4.4 at the combine. And he
was 'bout 250 - 255 lbs.
He and Johnson based on size & speed are both WR-TE tweeners.
However don't know what kind of blocker Johnston is, but Davis is an excellent blocker as TEs go.

kastofsna
02-23-2007, 04:10 PM
Anybody else seeing Russell as a Leftwhich clone??
nah, russell moves a lot better than leftwich.

texan_b
02-23-2007, 09:12 PM
http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2007/02/combine_notes_as_they_come_in.html

Manual Ramirez and Justin Blaylock showed their incredible strength by pushing up 225 pounds 40 times. I've heard Ramirez mentioned anywhere from the 3rd round to the 5th round when talking to NFL evaluators while Blaylock is pretty much a 2nd rounder across the board.

Joe Thomas did 28 reps which is more than enough for a tackle. Blalock and Ramirez are guards so they are expected to do more. The guard position is typically a strength position while tackle requires decent to good strength but good feet. 28 reps isn't considered a bad rep count for an athletic tackle like Thomas. Low 20s is a concern. Short arms is another thing that can kill tackles. Just ask Eric Steinbach who was moved to guard, in part, because his arms were too short.

Navy_Chris
02-23-2007, 09:19 PM
it'll leak in the next few days.

They've undoubtedly got their eye on a 3rd string OT who looks really good in his jammies. He probably lifts 225 about 12 times and they think he could fit in really well behind the superstar RT we have in Zach Wiegert.

Navy_Chris
02-23-2007, 09:20 PM
http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2007/02/combine_notes_as_they_come_in.html

Manual Ramirez and Justin Blaylock showed their incredible strength by pushing up 225 pounds 40 times. I've heard Ramirez mentioned anywhere from the 3rd round to the 5th round when talking to NFL evaluators while Blaylock is pretty much a 2nd rounder across the board.

Joe Thomas did 28 reps which is more than enough for a tackle. Blalock and Ramirez are guards so they are expected to do more. The guard position is typically a strength position while tackle requires decent to good strength but good feet. 28 reps isn't considered a bad rep count for an athletic tackle like Thomas. Low 20s is a concern. Short arms is another thing that can kill tackles. Just ask Eric Steinbach who was moved to guard, in part, because his arms were too short.

Levi lifted 31 reps. He's probably the best overall LT available in the draft. This guy could help us tremendously.

nunusguy
02-23-2007, 09:23 PM
He's probably the best overall LT available in the draft.

What specifically do you base that on, or is it just a hunch ?

Navy_Chris
02-23-2007, 09:27 PM
What specifically do you base that on, or is it just a hunch ?

It's a tight race between he and Thomas, but I just FEEL that Levi has quicker feet and can do more things from an agility standpoint.

YoungTexanFan
02-23-2007, 11:02 PM
Last years stud TE, Vernon Davis, IIRC ran a sub 4.4 at the combine. And he
was 'bout 250 - 255 lbs.
He and Johnson based on size & speed are both WR-TE tweeners.
However don't know what kind of blocker Johnston is, but Davis is an excellent blocker as TEs go.

Except CJ is 6-4, with top body control hands. He fights for the ball. Yes, VD was a freak, but CJ is a better prospect at his respective position. And VD wasn't a great blocker, he was said to have the strength to become one, but that aspect of his game was lagging.

Navy_Chris
02-23-2007, 11:35 PM
Except CJ is 6-4, with top body control hands. He fights for the ball. Yes, VD was a freak, but CJ is a better prospect at his respective position. And VD wasn't a great blocker, he was said to have the strength to become one, but that aspect of his game was lagging.

Did someone mention Calvin Johnson as a TE? If so, question for that guy:

What?!

Errant Hothy
02-24-2007, 08:57 AM
SO CJ weighted in at 239 and I was a tad surprised, then I got home and saw him at the weight in and was shocked. At 6'5" and 230 lbs man-child was cut. CJ may be one of those guys who redifines the size parameters for a position ala Ripken did for shortstops.

Vinny
02-24-2007, 11:34 AM
Anybody else seeing Russell as a Leftwhich clone??Leftwich is lead footed Bledsoestatue. A better comparison is Ben Roethlisberger. They are both big strong guys with decent agility and can get passes off at multiple body positions as they buy time, but aren't especially fast or quick. Leftwich is in trouble outside the pocket but you can move guys like Russell and big Ben around.

Errant Hothy
02-26-2007, 11:42 AM
Clavin Johnson's vertical leap is greater then 45"...OMFG!!!!!!!!!!

Johnson also confirmed a story about his vertical leap. Apparently, the vertical jump measuring tool isn't high enough to accommodate him. He clipped the top spinner for a 45-inch leap last summer, but he got to that rung with ease.

http://blogs.chron.com/jeromesolomon/2007/02/best_athlete_in_the_nfl_draft.html

Chris Simms is about to become a much better QB.

kastofsna
02-26-2007, 11:45 AM
Chris Simms is about to become a much better QB.
so the raiders are going to trade for simms? ;)

Errant Hothy
02-26-2007, 11:45 AM
so the raiders are going to trade for simms? ;)

Maybe Carr is about to become a better QB:shades: