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Paragon Blue
02-22-2007, 01:59 PM
They interviewed him from the combine. Said that DC is their starter but they are entertaining trade offers. Looking to improve the rumming back position. Said that they look for BPA rather than need.

El Tejano
02-22-2007, 02:06 PM
Oh my, here comes Brady Quinn because Bob thinks he's cuter.

Paragon Blue
02-22-2007, 02:08 PM
He also said they have some salary cap issues that need to be taken care of with some of veteran players.

DocBar
02-22-2007, 02:08 PM
Oh my, here comes Brady Quinn because Bob thinks he's cuter.

That's a pretty lame, cheap shot.

El Tejano
02-22-2007, 02:30 PM
Is it? Seems like image has been the thing for Bob since day 1.

Texans Horror
02-22-2007, 02:33 PM
They interviewed him from the combine. Said that DC is their starter but they are entertaining trade offers. Looking to improve the rumming back position. Said that they look for BPA rather than need.


Interesting. If AP and Quinn aren't available, BPA may be a safety.

dbspi
02-22-2007, 02:40 PM
Interesting. If AP and Quinn aren't available, BPA may be a safety.

None of the safety in this class is worth #8. I think he might opt for DT or DE (Okoye, Branch, Anderson) at #8 if AD and Quinn is not available.

Ole Miss Texan
02-22-2007, 02:41 PM
Interesting. If AP and Quinn aren't available, BPA may be a safety.

sweeters. go landry!

El Tejano
02-22-2007, 02:42 PM
So what? Gaines Adams is just falling off the draft board or what?

DocBar
02-22-2007, 02:44 PM
Is it? Seems like image has been the thing for Bob since day 1.

Wanting players with good character is no reason to make comments like that. I happen to like the fact that we don't have a lot of troublemakers playing for us. I don't think that should be the main criteria used, but it needs to be looked at. IMO, Bob McNair is trying to do what a good owner SHOULD do. Hire the best people for the job, give them the proper resources, then let them do their job. McNair is a business man(and a pretty darn successful one,too) and he knows how ot maanage his people. IMO, loyalty plyed a big role in keeping CC and Capers for as long as he did. Integrity, loyalty and decency are some images I can live with....

Ole Miss Texan
02-22-2007, 03:02 PM
IMO, loyalty plyed a big role in keeping CC and Capers for as long as he did. Integrity, loyalty and decency are some images I can live with....

Sometimes that can just get your business or organization in trouble. trouble being bankrupcy or very low sales, net profit.....etc

For the most part this is how you build a successful business. Good points and I too think McNair is doing a good job. I like the way he's doing things. I like our players a lot. and now our new coaching staff

Please_Evolve
02-22-2007, 03:09 PM
None of the safety in this class is worth #8. I think he might opt for DT or DE (Okoye, Branch, Anderson) at #8 if AD and Quinn is not available.

I'm not a big fan of boxing certain people in at positions. If there's player at 8 that we like but will go after we select at our spot...nothing wrong with taking him a few spots before. Huff was taken at 7 last year and Donte Whitner was taken early for safeties. Is Landry that good to take him at 8...i think so specially if we're looking at San Fran and Atlanta probably wanting him.

Doubt AP is there at 8 but if he is...i'd at least entertain offers before going to the podium. Same with Quinn. I'd prefer Levi Brown at the 8 spot honestly. I think that pick alone would do wonders for our line and offense as a whole no matter who is the RB or QB.

the only way i see a BPA pick is if it's a BPA at a need spot. Which is LT, FS, CB, LB,DL preferably in that order. There's a lot of holes on the team i jsut think those spots are the most GLARING.

tulexan
02-22-2007, 03:16 PM
I wonder if we would take Ginn if available? Kubiak has said that we need another receiver and a playmaker. Eventhough I don't want Ginn, I think he would be the kind of receiver that would be good opposite Andre. He could be the Peerless Price that Moulds had in Buffalo during the prime of his career and would fill two needs in punt return and kick return.

I don't think we will take him, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if we did.

Ole Miss Texan
02-22-2007, 03:43 PM
I wonder if we would take Ginn if available? Kubiak has said that we need another receiver and a playmaker. Eventhough I don't want Ginn, I think he would be the kind of receiver that would be good opposite Andre. He could be the Peerless Price that Moulds had in Buffalo during the prime of his career and would fill two needs in punt return and kick return.

I don't think we will take him, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if we did.

i'd rather us take someone else at a more pressing need. you raise a good point. in my opinion i and probably others would be upset. i'd probably complain untill he finally did something that really impressed me...he'd pretty much have to be rookie of the year or a league leader in a year or two for me to be happy. might be unfair to him but that's my honesty.

Personally i think ginn is overhyped and not a top 10 talent.

SamuraiSword
02-22-2007, 04:01 PM
Oh my, here comes Brady Quinn because Bob thinks he's cuter.

Oh god I can see it too. He is thinking smart though in a way. What way to bring the ladies to watch football by bringing in a handsome QB. It is kinda 50/50 on the intelligence scale of buisness.

TEXANRED
02-22-2007, 04:10 PM
Oh my, here comes Brady Quinn because Bob thinks he's cuter.

God I hope not. IMO Brady Quinn is a hack. He had several nationally televised games this year and no showed to all of them. Sure, he can beat up on the North Indiana community college all girls JV football team, but if he plays a team with talent he crumbles. In fact, I value Leek higher than Quinn.

aj.
02-22-2007, 04:14 PM
If the Texans draft Brady Quinn, I will personally lead the Million Fan March from Westridge and Kirby to River Oaks where we will mass demonstrate on McNair's lawn until he gives us our team back. 55 gallon drums for burning paraphenalia (including season tickets) will be provided.

I'll need someone to organize the "What do we want?" and "When do we want it?" chant...

Texian
02-22-2007, 04:15 PM
Texans | D. Williams injury update
Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:26:05 -0800

Houston Texans general manager Rick Smith, during the NFL Combine, said RB Domanick Williams (knee) is entering the strengthening phase of his rehabilitation process. Williams spent the 2006 season on Injured Reserve.


Texans | Smith comments on Carr
Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:23:43 -0800

Houston Texans general manager Rick Smith, during the NFL Combine, said the team is not actively trying to shop QB David Carr per se. While he said inquiries about Carr have died down, they will only make a deal if it improves the team as a whole.

TwinSisters
02-22-2007, 05:03 PM
IMO, Bob McNair is trying to do what a good owner SHOULD do. Hire the best people for the job, give them the proper resources, then let them do their job. McNair is a business man(and a pretty darn successful one,too) and he knows how ot maanage his people. IMO, loyalty plyed a big role in keeping CC and Capers for as long as he did. Integrity, loyalty and decency are some images I can live with....

but, but Bud Adams is a more successful businessman... so does that mean loyalty is really not that good?

Double Barrel
02-22-2007, 06:06 PM
If the Texans draft Brady Quinn, I will personally lead the Million Fan March from Westridge and Kirby to River Oaks where we will mass demonstrate on McNair's lawn until he gives us our team back. 55 gallon drums for burning paraphenalia (including season tickets) will be provided.

I'll need someone to organize the "What do we want?" and "When do we want it?" chant...

After last year's draft and the obvious, well-known desires of the public to draft RB or VY, I doubt this FO/owner really gives a crap what fans want (other than a winning team, of course).

I wonder how season ticket renewals are going these days.... :hmmm: I put my down payment on 2007!

swtbound07
02-22-2007, 06:22 PM
If the Texans draft Brady Quinn, I will personally lead the Million Fan March from Westridge and Kirby to River Oaks where we will mass demonstrate on McNair's lawn until he gives us our team back. 55 gallon drums for burning paraphenalia (including season tickets) will be provided.

I'll need someone to organize the "What do we want?" and "When do we want it?" chant...

I will be marching right next to you

ledzeppelin229
02-22-2007, 06:24 PM
After last year's draft and the obvious, well-known desires of the public to draft RB or VY, I doubt this FO/owner really gives a crap what fans want (other than a winning team, of course).

I wonder how season ticket renewals are going these days.... :hmmm: I put my down payment on 2007!

I know my dad and his buddies renewed theirs. Although all of them love the tailgating so much that the team could probably forget to show up and the day would still be a semi-success. Hell we probably wouldn't even notice much of a difference in play.

Double Barrel
02-22-2007, 06:30 PM
I know my dad and his buddies renewed theirs. Although all of them love the tailgating so much that the team could probably forget to show up and the day would still be a semi-success. Hell we probably wouldn't even notice much of a difference in play.

Tailgating seals the deal, IMO. Even with a $30 price increase, it's still a decent bargain when you consider it's a 9 hour event (3 hour game + 6 hours of tailgating goodness). Getting a chance to hang out with my buddies all day, not to mention going to an NFL game, are opportunities that are few and far between these days.

amazingandre
02-22-2007, 06:30 PM
just watched smith on nflta....wow....u def. did not tell all he had to say......jamie dukes asked specifically if David Carr was "on the trading block" smith said no, not really.....teams were interseted if he was and made offers.....he said that he would obviously entertain them but that he wasnt going to team to team and saying he is for sale.....he said that there is a lot to consider.....he was one of the best in the league with completion %...he was a 1st overall pick...plus he had his best year with them last year......and if they do trade him it would have to HELP THE ENTIRE team...not just one postion....and if they trade him where do they go from there......they have NO QB.......rosenfels sux....i dont know why people like him.....anyway thats what happened......

dirty steve
02-22-2007, 06:33 PM
I will be marching right next to you
i'll admit quinn wouldnt be my first choice, but i'll still back the team. getting to hang with friends and talk sports all day while kicking back a few isnt so bad. getting up at 6:00 am is a little rough considering i should be sleeping in, but it really is worth it. my buddy (whom i hit all the games with) couldnt wait to re-up just after the season. the same goes for everybody that we tailgate with.

follow these directions to another team when you are done with your ticket burning and picketing.
Start: Reliant Stadium
Head west on Reliant Park toward Kirby Dr 52 ft
Turn left at Kirby Dr 0.7 mi
Turn left at S Loop Fwy W 0.3 mi
Take the ramp onto I-610 E 1.2 mi
Merge onto TX-288 N via exit 38A to Downtown/IAH Airport 4.0 mi
Take the exit onto US-59 N toward Cleveland 119 mi
Turn right at S Medford Dr 0.5 mi
Merge onto US-59 N via the TX-287-LOOP E/US-59 N ramp 5.2 mi
Take the ramp onto US-59 N 15.4 mi
Slight right to merge onto US-59 N 40.6 mi
Take the ramp onto US-59 toward Carthage 14.7 mi
Turn right to merge onto LaSalle Pkwy/SE Loop/US-59 N via the US-59 N Take the US-59/US-59-BR ramp 0.3 mi
Turn right at US-59 N 71.2 mi
Turn left to stay on US-59 N 20.6 mi
Continue on Lake Dr 0.4 mi
Merge onto TX-151-LOOP W via the I-30/US-59 N ramp 0.9 mi
Continue on US-59 N 3.3 mi
Merge onto I-30 E via the I-30 E/US-59 N exit to Little Rock/Ashdown 146 mi
Merge onto I-40 E via the US-67 N/US-167 N/I-40 E exit 143B to Memphis 133mi
Merge onto I-40 E via the I-40 E/I-240 S/Madison Ave exit to Nashville/Jackson Miss 11.9 mi12 mins
Merge onto I-40 E via exit 12C to Nashville 197 mi
2 hours 54 mins
Merge onto I-65 N via exit 208B to Louisville 2.1 mi
Merge onto I-24 E via exit 86B to Chattanooga 2.1 mi
Take the Shelby Ave exit 49 to Colliseum 0.2 mi
Turn left at Shelby Ave 0.2 mi
Turn right at S 2nd St 299 ft
Turn left at Victory Ave 0.2 mi
Victory Ave turns right and becomes Titans Way
end: LP Field

swtbound07
02-22-2007, 06:35 PM
i'll admit quinn wouldnt be my first choice, but i'll still back the team. follow these directions to another team when you are done with your ticket burning and picketing.
Start: Reliant Stadium
Head west on Reliant Park toward Kirby Dr 52 ft
Turn left at Kirby Dr 0.7 mi
Turn left at S Loop Fwy W 0.3 mi
Take the ramp onto I-610 E 1.2 mi
Merge onto TX-288 N via exit 38A to Downtown/IAH Airport 4.0 mi
Take the exit onto US-59 N toward Cleveland 119 mi
Turn right at S Medford Dr 0.5 mi
Merge onto US-59 N via the TX-287-LOOP E/US-59 N ramp 5.2 mi
Take the ramp onto US-59 N 15.4 mi
Slight right to merge onto US-59 N 40.6 mi
Take the ramp onto US-59 toward Carthage 14.7 mi
Turn right to merge onto LaSalle Pkwy/SE Loop/US-59 N via the US-59 N Take the US-59/US-59-BR ramp 0.3 mi
Turn right at US-59 N 71.2 mi
Turn left to stay on US-59 N 20.6 mi
Continue on Lake Dr 0.4 mi
Merge onto TX-151-LOOP W via the I-30/US-59 N ramp 0.9 mi
Continue on US-59 N 3.3 mi
Merge onto I-30 E via the I-30 E/US-59 N exit to Little Rock/Ashdown 146 mi
Merge onto I-40 E via the US-67 N/US-167 N/I-40 E exit 143B to Memphis 133mi
Merge onto I-40 E via the I-40 E/I-240 S/Madison Ave exit to Nashville/Jackson Miss 11.9 mi12 mins
Merge onto I-40 E via exit 12C to Nashville 197 mi
2 hours 54 mins
Merge onto I-65 N via exit 208B to Louisville 2.1 mi
Merge onto I-24 E via exit 86B to Chattanooga 2.1 mi
Take the Shelby Ave exit 49 to Colliseum 0.2 mi
Turn left at Shelby Ave 0.2 mi
Turn right at S 2nd St 299 ft
Turn left at Victory Ave 0.2 mi
Victory Ave turns right and becomes Titans Way
end: LP Field

Taking things pretty literally these days aren't ya steve? Kinda burns you that you no longer have my jersey to pick at? My sympathies.

aj.
02-22-2007, 06:37 PM
I wonder how season ticket renewals are going these days.... :hmmm: I put my down payment on 2007!


Dunno about anyone else but I sent my renewal in a few weeks ago, just like I have every year since Earl was a rookie.

dirty steve
02-22-2007, 06:41 PM
Taking things pretty literally these days aren't ya steve? Kinda burns you that you no longer have my jersey to pick at? My sympathies.
nah--it's nothing like that. what i posted should be taken as literally as what you posted. i actually dig the backwards #34. i could have picked indy or jacksonville but i didnt want you guys to walk that far, being covered in soot from the burned tickets and all.

swtbound07
02-22-2007, 06:44 PM
nah--it's nothing like that. what i posted should be taken as literally as what you posted. i actually dig the backwards #34. i could have picked indy or jacksonville but i didnt want you guys to walk that far, being covered in soot from the burned tickets and all.

If i could score tickets, i sure as hell wouldn't be burning them..I haven't been able to afford/acquire tickets since battle red halloween vs. the jags. Its been too long...and I want to meet people on this board and tailgate, but I honestly wouldn't know where to begin or how to find anyone in the lots. I love the hell out of this autographed campbell, but i don't have enough money to get it framed like i want

Lucky
02-22-2007, 06:46 PM
If the Texans draft Brady Quinn, I will personally lead the Million Fan March...

I will be marching right next to you

Bashing QBs that aren't yet on the team? It's never too early, I guess.

TwinSisters
02-22-2007, 06:46 PM
Dunno about anyone else but I sent my renewal in a few weeks ago, just like I have every year since Earl was a rookie.

wait a minute.

something is not right here.

aj.
02-22-2007, 06:50 PM
Bashing QBs that aren't yet on the team? It's never too early, I guess.

I don't want Quinn here. So shoot me.

wait a minute.

something is not right here.

On the contrary, everything is copacetic at the moment.

Hervoyel
02-22-2007, 07:07 PM
I'll need someone to organize the "What do we want?" and "When do we want it?" chant...


I'm in.

TwinSisters
02-22-2007, 07:15 PM
On the contrary, everything is copacetic at the moment.
:hmmm:

There is only one guy that can go by just Earl. So how can you be sending in renewals every year?

although, I guess I am suspecting there is going to be a simple answer to this. One that I am not seeing.

swtbound07
02-22-2007, 07:19 PM
:hmmm:

There is only one guy that can go by just Earl. So how can you be sending in renewals every year?

although, I guess I am suspecting there is going to be a simple answer to this. One that I am not seeing.

try the fellow in my jersey

aj.
02-22-2007, 07:19 PM
I am suspecting there is going to be a simple answer to this. One that I am not seeing.

Yes, it's very simple.

I've attended every NFL game in Houston (except for one) since Earl's rookie year -- I went to some games before that ... my first game at the Dome was one in September '76 against the SB bound Raiders...but I started really getting into it for obvious reasons in '78.

The LYB years were not really season tickets, they were single game tickets - some SRO's - that we had to buy before the season at the Dome box office out in the parking lot where Reliant now stands... sometimes I was able to go with a friend whose company had season tix down in the field level near the visitors chute. But I never missed a game - even during Chuck Studley, Ed Biles, and Hugh Campbell. I started my real season ticket buys in '84. .... and I have no plans of ending that streak anytime soon - god willin' and the creek don't rise.... but I'm north of Clear Creek so I don't have to cross it on my way to Reliant....

2BCF
02-22-2007, 07:28 PM
Oh my, here comes Brady Quinn because Bob thinks he's cuter.

LMAO...you know, I've always wondered about that. Stranger things have happened.

Nighthawk
02-22-2007, 07:34 PM
Wanting players with good character is no reason to make comments like that. I happen to like the fact that we don't have a lot of troublemakers playing for us. I don't think that should be the main criteria used, but it needs to be looked at. IMO, Bob McNair is trying to do what a good owner SHOULD do. Hire the best people for the job, give them the proper resources, then let them do their job. McNair is a business man(and a pretty darn successful one,too) and he knows how ot maanage his people. IMO, loyalty plyed a big role in keeping CC and Capers for as long as he did. Integrity, loyalty and decency are some images I can live with....


Good character and a dollar will buy you a cup of coffee. While Carr's PR team presents him as being "of good character," I have no first hand knowledge of his character at all. For all I know he beats his wife and is a big drinker and carries a gun and is mean to children.

You guys gotta get over this Christian publicity machine--hasn't Bush (Geo) taught you anything?

TwinSisters
02-22-2007, 07:37 PM
try the fellow in my jersey

I know... that's why I had to pause. Every year would mean you had to be sending in renewals from 1997-2001 without getting any tickets.

aj-
man, you poor suffering bastard. Ed Biles and Glanville. In person and within reasonable reach, the temptation must've been great.

( which reminds me of another thread I have tried to ignore to no avail )

aj.
02-22-2007, 07:41 PM
aj-
man, you poor suffering bastard.

On the contrary, (thankfully) I'm neither poor nor suffering - even in my NFL fandom. I feel quite fortunate to have attended all those games. I remember bringing the Sunday paper with me to games a few times when all we had to root for was Larry Moriarty but overall it's been great.

Getting this thread back on track, I'm waiting for Rick Smith to prove he is the anti-Casserly. It shouldn't take long.

Of course I wasn't sending in renewals from '97 - '01. Bud took his mailbox with him to opryland, and I wasn't about to help finance his move.

BleedTheBurntOrange
02-22-2007, 07:52 PM
Whoever the best player available is will be a good one and i like Brady Quinn among all the ones who dont like him.

The guy is better than you give him credit for its just you all remember the sugar bowl and the USC game this year when it really wasnt his all fault. He tries to do tooo much cause he knows his team cant beat teams like that without him doing it all.

Everybody is high on jamarcus russell when he has size and an arm but no moxy or heart or better than decent accuracy for that matter. whats the use of throwing a bowl 80 yards if you cant throw it on the button?

He's got all the talent in the world but he hasnt come through in big games either i dont wanna hear Notre Dame or Tennessee they were alot worse than his loaded LSU team with Quinn wouldnt of lost a game cause Quinn has heart, determination and knows how to lead his team from behind which Russell jus couldnt do.

If he had any kind of defense to help him when he and his team were struggling on offense they could of went to a national championship game.

Id love to have him if may not be the popular choice but QB is the most important position in football and if you dont have a good one you will lose plain and simple. So if they think hes the one to lead us to championships then by all mean take him.

football freak
02-22-2007, 07:57 PM
None of the safety in this class is worth #8. I think he might opt for DT or DE (Okoye, Branch, Anderson) at #8 if AD and Quinn is not available.

what about Marshawn Lynch? better reciever than AP.

macaronitoni
02-22-2007, 08:18 PM
i'll admit quinn wouldnt be my first choice, but i'll still back the team. getting to hang with friends and talk sports all day while kicking back a few isnt so bad. getting up at 6:00 am is a little rough considering i should be sleeping in, but it really is worth it. my buddy (whom i hit all the games with) couldnt wait to re-up just after the season. the same goes for everybody that we tailgate with.

follow these directions to another team when you are done with your ticket burning and picketing.
Start: Reliant Stadium
Head west on Reliant Park toward Kirby Dr 52 ft
Turn left at Kirby Dr 0.7 mi
Turn left at S Loop Fwy W 0.3 mi
Take the ramp onto I-610 E 1.2 mi
Merge onto TX-288 N via exit 38A to Downtown/IAH Airport 4.0 mi
Take the exit onto US-59 N toward Cleveland 119 mi
Turn right at S Medford Dr 0.5 mi
Merge onto US-59 N via the TX-287-LOOP E/US-59 N ramp 5.2 mi
Take the ramp onto US-59 N 15.4 mi
Slight right to merge onto US-59 N 40.6 mi
Take the ramp onto US-59 toward Carthage 14.7 mi
Turn right to merge onto LaSalle Pkwy/SE Loop/US-59 N via the US-59 N Take the US-59/US-59-BR ramp 0.3 mi
Turn right at US-59 N 71.2 mi
Turn left to stay on US-59 N 20.6 mi
Continue on Lake Dr 0.4 mi
Merge onto TX-151-LOOP W via the I-30/US-59 N ramp 0.9 mi
Continue on US-59 N 3.3 mi
Merge onto I-30 E via the I-30 E/US-59 N exit to Little Rock/Ashdown 146 mi
Merge onto I-40 E via the US-67 N/US-167 N/I-40 E exit 143B to Memphis 133mi
Merge onto I-40 E via the I-40 E/I-240 S/Madison Ave exit to Nashville/Jackson Miss 11.9 mi12 mins
Merge onto I-40 E via exit 12C to Nashville 197 mi
2 hours 54 mins
Merge onto I-65 N via exit 208B to Louisville 2.1 mi
Merge onto I-24 E via exit 86B to Chattanooga 2.1 mi
Take the Shelby Ave exit 49 to Colliseum 0.2 mi
Turn left at Shelby Ave 0.2 mi
Turn right at S 2nd St 299 ft
Turn left at Victory Ave 0.2 mi
Victory Ave turns right and becomes Titans Way
end: LP Field


And then Quinn leads the Texans to a super bowl in a few years...how dumb would you feel then?

BattleRedToro
02-22-2007, 08:36 PM
If the Texans draft any QB with their first pick I am going to vomit.
"What do we want?" "An O-Line"
"When do we want it?" "Yesterday"

SamuraiSword
02-23-2007, 02:00 AM
but, but Bud Adams is a more successful businessman... so does that mean loyalty is really not that good?

Don't knock bud....his only mistake was renting the astrodome from the Houston Astros. He also listened to the fans from time to time.

whiskeyrbl
02-23-2007, 06:23 AM
Whoever the best player available is will be a good one and i like Brady Quinn among all the ones who dont like him.

The guy is better than you give him credit for its just you all remember the sugar bowl and the USC game this year when it really wasnt his all fault. He tries to do tooo much cause he knows his team cant beat teams like that without him doing it all.

Everybody is high on jamarcus russell when he has size and an arm but no moxy or heart or better than decent accuracy for that matter. whats the use of throwing a bowl 80 yards if you cant throw it on the button?

He's got all the talent in the world but he hasnt come through in big games either i dont wanna hear Notre Dame or Tennessee they were alot worse than his loaded LSU team with Quinn wouldnt of lost a game cause Quinn has heart, determination and knows how to lead his team from behind which Russell jus couldnt do.

If he had any kind of defense to help him when he and his team were struggling on offense they could of went to a national championship game.

Id love to have him if may not be the popular choice but QB is the most important position in football and if you dont have a good one you will lose plain and simple. So if they think hes the one to lead us to championships then by all mean take him.

One knock I hear on Quinn is he is not a very good roll out QB. And in Kubes system I think we would need a QB who is accurate on the run.

aj.
02-23-2007, 06:30 AM
One knock on hear on Quinn is he is not a very good roll out QB. And in Kubes system I think we would need a QB who is accurate on the run.

Sacked 31 times last season. But I'm sure it was the o-line's fault and they just needed more pieces around him.

whiskeyrbl
02-23-2007, 06:36 AM
Sacked 31 times last season. But I'm sure it was the o-line's fault and they just needed more pieces around him.

Sounds like sarcasm. When I said we need a QB who can throw on the run it was not to say our OL sucks,(even though it does most of the time) it was a statement to the fact that Kubes likes to run DESIGNED rollouts.

DocBar
02-23-2007, 06:46 AM
but, but Bud Adams is a more successful businessman... so does that mean loyalty is really not that good?

I have no idea if Bud Adams is a more successful businessman than McNair. I DO know McNair paid 1BILLION for rights to a franchise and a new stadium(yes I know the stadium is not coming right out of his pocket). I doubt you have much more than opinion about which one is more successful.

Double Barrel
02-23-2007, 10:55 AM
Don't knock bud....his only mistake was renting the astrodome from the Houston Astros. He also listened to the fans from time to time.

I think Houstonians have earned the right to knock Bud whenever and wherever we feel like it.

Bud Adams is dog poo in this city.

p.s. If you think that was Bud's only mistake, then you need to brush up on Oilers history. A decent starting point is John Pirkle's book "Oiler Blues: The Story of Pro Football's Most Frustrating Team"...it's not a perfect book, but it'll get you started in the right direction. :ok:

TwinSisters
02-23-2007, 04:25 PM
I doubt you have much more than opinion about which one is more successful.

Well, I think even the label success is opinion.

However, Bud paid 25,000 for his francise. It is worth 880,000,000 million dollars.

Bud is also on the Forbes list for successful businessmen also, which would merely be an opinion. The end of this line of thinking should be with Snyder that paid 750,000,000 dollars for his club, which is now worth 1,500,000,000 dollars.

That doesn't mean that Synder makes all the right calls. ( although he did fire Casserly and McNair did hire him )