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A-B
02-11-2007, 01:39 PM
I just saw the Brees highlight on ESPN. He is now going to spend atleast the 1st 2 months of the off-season recovering from a dislocated elbow. We as Texans fans know how much we missed Mathis this season from an injury he received in last years Pro-Bowl. Do yall think the Pro-Bowl is really necessary? I like the recognition that players get on the individual level, but we lost an important player for the season and Brees has an injury that could've been avoided the same as Mathis had they not been in the Pro-Bowl.

Honoring Earl 34
02-11-2007, 01:44 PM
I just saw the Brees highlight on ESPN. He is now going to spend atleast the 1st 2 months of the off-season recovering from a dislocated elbow. We as Texans fans know how much we missed Mathis this season from an injury he received in last years Pro-Bowl. Do yall think the Pro-Bowl is really necessary? I like the recognition that players get on the individual level, but we lost an important player for the season and Brees has an injury that could've been avoided the same as Mathis had they not been in the Pro-Bowl.

I did'nt see it .... which arm did he hurt ?

Honoring Earl 34
02-11-2007, 01:50 PM
That just sounds painful .

Trap_Star
02-11-2007, 02:09 PM
Would you prefer they play flag-football??

Thats why they play it at the end of the year. Injuries are part of the game. There's no blitzing, so that means its 5 o-lineman vs 4 d-lineman the whole game. Would'nt be surprised if the NFL banned sacks in the pro-bowl from now on....

Trap_Star
02-11-2007, 02:17 PM
I know injuries are a part of the game, but in a game that has no meaning other than conference bragging rights. I mean like Mathis for example, he had a break out year in 05 and stayed healthy, then gets hurt in P.B. and can't help his team in 06. He would've been here if he hadn't got hurt in the P.B. Getting hurt in regular season contributing to your team is one thing, but getting hurt after the season is over is another.

I thought Mathis fell off his bike or something like that....

powerfuldragon
02-11-2007, 02:19 PM
I thought Mathis fell off his bike or something like that....

yeah i also thought that mathis went and roethlisbergered himself.

bah007
02-11-2007, 02:22 PM
From my understanding during preseason he was having trouble with his foot and couldn't understand why. After the team docs did a little investigating they found that he had hurt his foot in the P.B. and it didn't fully recover which is the reason he was pretty much out for the season.

How could they have found out exactly where he hurt his foot months after it had happened? It's not like there would be any evidence to that conclusion.

the flash
02-11-2007, 02:23 PM
There is no need for one since there is nothing that comes out of it. What is the point? Would you be okay if Andre would have gotten hurt and been out the rest of the next season because he played in the Pro Bowl? Im sorry but I would rather him skip the game and avoid injury so that he can have another great season next year. (Maybe we should send Carr to the Pro Bowl):stirpot:

ledzeppelin229
02-11-2007, 02:23 PM
I think the motorcycle accident just messed up his hands and had to be bandaged for awhile. That stuff didn't really keep him out.

As for the Pro Bowl, none of the players are forced to participate. If someone thinks its too risky I'm sure theres a long line of people behind them that would love to go in their place.

Silver Oak
02-11-2007, 02:29 PM
validation for my previously stated "Abolish The Pro Bowl" stance.

it's a meaningless game, played at 50%-75% effort. surely they don't need the extra 25K for losers and 40K to the winners???

ledzeppelin229
02-11-2007, 02:39 PM
I'mot sure, apparently he hurt it during the P.B. and then reaggravated the same foot during the preseason. The bike incident is a new one for me, What is that about?

He decided to jump from the bike and go concrete surfing on his hands. Nothing really significant but I'm sure it took off a few layers of skin that had to be bandaged for a long time.

awtysst
02-11-2007, 02:54 PM
I just saw the Brees highlight on ESPN. He is now going to spend atleast the 1st 2 months of the off-season recovering from a dislocated elbow. We as Texans fans know how much we missed Mathis this season from an injury he received in last years Pro-Bowl. Do yall think the Pro-Bowl is really necessary? I like the recognition that players get on the individual level, but we lost an important player for the season and Brees has an injury that could've been avoided the same as Mathis had they not been in the Pro-Bowl.

Personally i don't like the probowl and dotn watch it. I would rather see individual skills being tested. Like the lineman challange and punting and fg accuracy, QB throwing accuracy and things like that.

the flash
02-11-2007, 02:55 PM
Another problem with the game is that some of players are giving a lot more than others which gets players hurt. For example, Brian Moorman, the Bills punter, got creamed by Sean Taylor when he ran for the first down. Im not saying that the guys shouldn't play 100% and that I didnt enjoy the hit, but that is a bit much. That could've been a major injury or concusion. No more Pro Bowls. (At least for the Texans)

bah007
02-11-2007, 03:13 PM
Nobody is forced to participate.

Tom Brady was playing golf yesterday.

It's an honor to be named as one of the best players at your position in the NFL.

Honestly, I think less players get hurt in the Pro Bowl than in each pre-season game.

ledzeppelin229
02-11-2007, 03:17 PM
I agree, since I think while the guys are working hard, other than Sean Taylor roiding out on Brian Moorman, most of the guys are playing pretty clean and trying not to do things that will get themselves or others hurt. Brees injury was just a random accident.

Which kind of brings me back to an above point...I know everyone likes the big hits, but is it really necessary, in a game that doesn't count, to try and kill the punter on a fake punt? I know he was fine and jumped back up, so that incident is a non-issue, but in the future?

The Pencil Neck
02-11-2007, 03:20 PM
That just sounds painful .

It looked nasty. I just saw a replay and you can see the bulge where the bone dislocated.

run-david-run
02-11-2007, 03:22 PM
Nobody is forced to participate.

Tom Brady was playing golf yesterday.

It's an honor to be named as one of the best players at your position in the NFL.

Honestly, I think less players get hurt in the Pro Bowl than in each pre-season game.

Only differance is that these are the starts, which means it gets more press. In all honesty, its probably less dangerous then all the practices teams have before the season.

Silver Oak
02-11-2007, 04:00 PM
Nobody is forced to participate.

Tom Brady was playing golf yesterday.

It's an honor to be named as one of the best players at your position in the NFL.

Honestly, I think less players get hurt in the Pro Bowl than in each pre-season game.


Couldn't they just receive the award and distinction without having to play a meaningless game?

Dr. Toro
02-11-2007, 05:53 PM
Couldn't they just receive the award and distinction without having to play a meaningless game?

The problem as I see it with the Pro Bowl is that the best way to stay healthy is to play like you normally would on any Sunday. The moment you relax and try to turn a punt fake up the field is when you get killed by the next guy who can't "flip the switch off". Not to defend Taylor, but there were a number of big hits in that game aside from Moorman. A running back got absolutely swallowed by a DT, quarterbacks were getting sacked left and right, and Chad Johnson got lit up by Adrian Wilson. I'm sure there were more big hits... you're playing a football game with all the biggest, nastiest defensive players and offenses that think it's the NBA All-Star game. So we've got this dilemma with conflicting instincts to just take it easy and to play like you usually do.

Travis Minor almost lost a leg because of a stupid touch football game on sand, that I think isn't played anymore for that reason. They need to continue to examine ways to make the game safer, I don't see why liberal time rules like a running clock or 10 minute quarters aren't considered. I think getting rid of kickoffs and trying to work some of the returners in on offense would be a decent way to manage the risk as well. If they don't find better ways to ensure the safety, it will just turn into the NBA slam dunk contest, with 2nd tier players over time.

GuerillaBlack
02-11-2007, 06:02 PM
Why does Drew Brees have that big scratch on his face?

gg no re
02-11-2007, 06:04 PM
it's a meaningless game, played at 50%-75% effort. surely they don't need the extra 25K for losers and 40K to the winners???The CBS announcers said that while 40k is no big deal for the players, it is a big deal for the assistant coaches.

mexican_texan
02-11-2007, 06:06 PM
Why does Drew Brees have that big scratch on his face?
It's a beauty mark.

V Man
02-11-2007, 09:10 PM
Another problem with the game is that some of players are giving a lot more than others which gets players hurt. For example, Brian Moorman, the Bills punter, got creamed by Sean Taylor when he ran for the first down. Im not saying that the guys shouldn't play 100% and that I didnt enjoy the hit, but that is a bit much. That could've been a major injury or concusion. No more Pro Bowls. (At least for the Texans)

I agree, since I think while the guys are working hard, other than Sean Taylor roiding out on Brian Moorman, most of the guys are playing pretty clean and trying not to do things that will get themselves or others hurt. Brees injury was just a random accident.

Which kind of brings me back to an above point...I know everyone likes the big hits, but is it really necessary, in a game that doesn't count, to try and kill the punter on a fake punt? I know he was fine and jumped back up, so that incident is a non-issue, but in the future?

I don't see why everyone is so upset and bad mouthing Sean Taylor for his hit. It was a clean hit in bounds. And as for it being a punter and there is no need for a hit like that on a punter. Well if you are going to run a fake punt in a Pro-Bowl, then you should get hit like that.

the flash
02-11-2007, 09:52 PM
I am not bad mouthing Sean Taylor. I am just saying that he didnt have to lay him out like that.

Preseason: I love it because it gets me ready for the regular season. I hate it becasue once angain the games dont mean anything and it puts our players at risk. I understand that they are used to see if the offense and defense are playing well together and to check out their new draft picks. But how pissed would we be if DeMeco gets hurt in one of this years preseason games.

V Man
02-11-2007, 10:17 PM
I am not bad mouthing Sean Taylor. I am just saying that he didnt have to lay him out like that.

Preseason: I love it because it gets me ready for the regular season. I hate it becasue once angain the games dont mean anything and it puts our players at risk. I understand that they are used to see if the offense and defense are playing well together and to check out their new draft picks. But how pissed would we be if DeMeco gets hurt in one of this years preseason games.

I understand what you are saying. I guess since this game has no blitzing and all the other rules that regulate play (due to lack of practice time), to have a team run a fake punt in this "meaningless" game. The hit is what you get. I guess it would have been better if he would have hit Bill for calling it.