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RTP2110
02-09-2007, 06:08 PM
Houston Texans
Cap room: $16.65 million
The David Carr era may be coming to an end. Gary Kubiak appears to be seriously looking at trading for Jake Plummer. Where that leaves Carr is anyone's guess. The Texans are tired of losing. It's also possible they could draft Oklahoma RB Adrian Peterson if he's available in the first round, although their priority is a left tackle. This might sound unbelievable for a team that drafted Mario Williams over Reggie Bush, but the Texans would like to add another pass-rusher. This will be a tough year for the Texans. Their schedule is impossible. They face 11 teams that had .500 records or better in 2006. The AFC South is suddenly becoming one of the toughest divisions in football. The Texans are improving, but they might need another year or two before they can think about contending. They have 15 free agents. Expect them to try to re-sign cornerback Dexter McCleon, who did well coming off the street to start. They also have to decide about the future of RB Domanick Williams, who missed last season because of knee problems.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2758756

gsus8091
02-09-2007, 06:20 PM
Alan Branch, Adrian Peterson, Gaines Adams, or a trade up for a spectacular player. Maybe C. Johnson or J. Thomas. If anyone really truely thinks that 2007 is going to be much better than 2006 is in true denial. The Carr problem seems to be the end all be all to the fans grips, but its not. Its not even close. Plummer sucks, he actually had a team around him last year and blew it, Griese is just a backup, Garcia was late season wonder. In a truely bad situation like Cleveland and Detroit, more like Houston than Phily, he stunk it up. Carr is the best thing out there, thats a fact. Ask Bears fans on other sites what they think. Anyway its all about FA and the draft thats going to make this season promising or not and truely entertaining.

Stros5Texans80
02-09-2007, 06:57 PM
PLEASE LET Peterson be at 8. He would make so much more of an impact than anyone else imo.

beerlover
02-09-2007, 06:59 PM
PLEASE LET Peterson be at 8. He would make so much more of an impact than anyone else imo.

if the Texans get a franchise LT it would also be like getting a new starting QB :pigfly:

Lucky
02-09-2007, 08:05 PM
This will be a tough year for the Texans. Their schedule is impossible. They face 11 teams that had .500 records or better in 2006.
The Texans also face 10 teams with 2006 records of .500 or worse. Their schedule won't look so impossible if they start to play better.

Sportsfan
02-09-2007, 08:25 PM
PLEASE LET Peterson be at 8. He would make so much more of an impact than anyone else imo.

Him or M. Lynch.

TexanSam
02-09-2007, 08:39 PM
The Texans also face 10 teams with 2006 records of .500 or worse. Their schedule won't look so impossible if they start to play better.

Wait...how is it possible where we face 11 teams with above .500 records last season and 10 teams with below .500 records?

Lucky
02-09-2007, 08:44 PM
Wait...how is it possible where we face 11 teams with above .500 records last season and 10 teams with below .500 records?

It's .500 or better (or worse). Because the Texans play 6 games against teams that went 8-8 in '06.

HJam72
02-09-2007, 09:00 PM
Yes, but how do 8 and 8 equal 500? :tease:

dirty steve
02-09-2007, 11:40 PM
Houston Texans
They also have to decide about the future of RB Domanick Williams, who missed last season because of knee problems.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2758756
williams is not coming back. prolonged activity of a whole one day put him out for the season last year--i cant see his knee being able to hold up over the course of a whole season.

as long as they are in most games, i can handle a 7-9 type season. i'd really like to see some continuity built on the O-Line also.
-i dont think peek will be back.
-i think the team will sign a DB and an O-Lineman in FA, more likely a safety.
- i hope our #1 RB isnt Dayne or Chris Taylor going this year, or even a combo of them.
-i think their three day one draft picks will be (in no particular order)--RB, OL, and defensive line. if a DB isnt signed in FA i think it becomes a day one pick.
-i think the team will trade down, but not farther than where they think they might be able to get levi brown or maybe marshawn lynch. i have all but given up on the Peterson fantasy.

J_R
02-10-2007, 08:27 AM
IF joe thomas was there which i doubt but who would you take? peterson thomas or levi brown?

rickyb
02-10-2007, 09:04 AM
as long as they are in most games, i can handle a 7-9 type season.

I cannot get behind this statement. The strength of schedule is the cards we are dealt. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

I don't want to go too over the top with this, but if we expect mediocrity, do not be surprised if mediocrity is what we get. I hope no one in that locker room is expecting mediocrity.

dirty steve
02-10-2007, 09:42 AM
I cannot get behind this statement. The strength of schedule is the cards we are dealt. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

I don't want to go too over the top with this, but if we expect mediocrity, do not be surprised if mediocrity is what we get. I hope no one in that locker room is expecting mediocrity.
i dont expect mediocrity, but i do live in reality. those who thought we were a 8-8 or 9-7 type team last year might have not accounted for the spotty QB play, O-Line injuries/defenciences, and the defensive backfield shortcomings. acquistions in FA and the draft are likely to shore up more of the holes left by the CC administration, but it does take time.

nunusguy
02-10-2007, 10:15 AM
"It's also possible they could draft Oklahoma RB Adrian Peterson if he's available in the first round, although their priority is a left tackle. This might sound unbelievable for a team that drafted Mario Williams over Reggie Bush, but the Texans would like to add another pass-rusher. "
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The author is clearly confusing Reggie Bush with Andrian Peterson, two types of players who really have little in common.
Peterson is a hard-running speedster, a true Mr. Inside/Mr. Outside all rolled into one who may be most reminiscent of another Texas native, Eric Dickerson. Bush on the other hand has continued his college career into the NFL of being primarily a pass receiverer and reserve running back who may or may not develope into a full time back in the pros.

Silver Oak
02-10-2007, 12:07 PM
i have all but given up on the Peterson fantasy.

If we do miss out on him either by choice or another team, we can look forward to possibly having Steve Slaton or Jamaal Charles as they'll could be the next "Can't Miss" prospects at RB.

K.D.
02-10-2007, 12:13 PM
Slaton, maybe so.
Charles, don't think so. Way too small and not enuf bang 4 da buck.

The Pencil Neck
02-10-2007, 03:28 PM
i dont expect mediocrity, but i do live in reality. those who thought we were a 8-8 or 9-7 type team last year might have not accounted for the spotty QB play, O-Line injuries/defenciences, and the defensive backfield shortcomings. acquistions in FA and the draft are likely to shore up more of the holes left by the CC administration, but it does take time.

Last year I expected us to finish 6-10. When you're a bad team, you're a bad team and usually bad things happen to you. And we were a bad team. We were lucky to be 6-10.

But there's a really fine line between 6-10 and 9-7. That's really not hugely different. That's really just 3-4 good plays and that's not much.

I'm a total homer but I really think we're just a couple of players away from beign a decent team. Not a great team. Maybe not a playoff team. But a decent team that people don't automatically assume they're going to beat just by showing up. We might end up 6-10 next year but I expect us to at least get to 8-8. If we do go 6-10, I expect it to be a better 6-10 than last year. :)

CoachJim
02-10-2007, 06:30 PM
... those who thought we were a 8-8 or 9-7 type team last year might have not accounted for the spotty QB play, O-Line injuries/defenciences, and the defensive backfield shortcomings.

IMHMFO we could'a/should'a been 8-8 if not for us snatching defeat from the jaws of victory vs. Tenn. & Buff. AT home. :stirpot:

valleytexfan
02-11-2007, 12:00 PM
The Texans also face 10 teams with 2006 records of .500 or worse. Their schedule won't look so impossible if they start to play better.

I like this!!!!:doot:

phan1
02-11-2007, 12:43 PM
11 teams over .500 next year?!? UGH!

Tulip
02-11-2007, 02:39 PM
Let's look at it a different way - viewing the 2006 records of each opponent, instead of potentially skewing the statistics like I think the ESPN paragraph might have.

Chargers 14-2
Colts (2 games) 12-4
Saints 10-6
Broncos 9-7
Chiefs 9-7

Jaguars (2 games) 8-8
Titans (2 games) 8-8
Panthers 8-8

Falcons 7-9
Dolphins 6-10
Bucs 4-12
Browns 4-12
Raiders 2-14

It doesn't look that bad to me.

bah007
02-11-2007, 02:49 PM
Let's look at it a different way - viewing the 2006 records of each opponent, instead of potentially skewing the statistics like I think the ESPN paragraph might have.

Chargers 14-2
Colts (2 games) 12-4
Saints 10-6
Broncos 9-7
Chiefs 9-7

Jaguars (2 games) 8-8
Titans (2 games) 8-8
Panthers 8-8

Falcons 7-9
Dolphins 6-10
Bucs 4-12
Browns 4-12
Raiders 2-14

It doesn't look that bad to me.

Depending on what happens in the offseason it looks like we could be anywhere from 6-10 to 11-5.

awtysst
02-11-2007, 02:57 PM
I don't put much stock in these predictions. Teams look different from year to year. before last season, everyone was talkign about how Brian Billik was on the hot seat and that he needed to do something to keep his job in the tough AFC North. All he did was win his division and get to the second round of the playoffs. A lot of people were picking the Raiders to contend in their division and be a playoff contender. People thought with Aaron Brooks the Raiders would have the downfield thrower they needed. Don't think I need to say much here. Alot of people thought the dolphins would challenge the patriots in the AFC east. Again, didnt happen.

Ole Miss Texan
02-11-2007, 03:41 PM
Here are my very conservative predictions in generalized form:

We win 1 game against these top tier teams...
Chargers 14-2
Colts (2 games) 12-4
Saints 10-6
Broncos 9-7
Chiefs 9-7

We win 2 games against these teams-titans are improving too, jags we can split, panthers aren't that big a threat but are still good.
Jaguars (2 games) 8-8
Titans (2 games) 8-8
Panthers 8-8

We win 3 games from these teams-falcons have a new coach but still a lot of talent, dolphins...who knows next year still qb controversy, bucs...sucs?..browns..we just beat them! raiders...incredible defense, i expect their offense to get better...either w/ JR or free agent qb. or they'll get CJ.

Falcons 7-9
Dolphins 6-10
Bucs 4-12
Browns 4-12
Raiders 2-14


So I think in each grouping we could probably be +/- a game. should be an interesting year. while i think are team is really improving ..it's still going to take us time. don't forget just because we're getting better...other teams may be too. Tenn. is going to have to be reckoned with. imagine the raiders with Jamarcus Russell. the browns w/ AP? if ATL receivers learn to catch the ball?

I think 6-10 is farely likely. I hope we can stretch it up to 8-8. again i'm being concervative but i think these are more realistic predictions than a lot of very optimisic people. i don't see us winning less than 6 games....at least i really hope not.

run-david-run
02-11-2007, 04:06 PM
Here are my very conservative predictions in generalized form:

We win 1 game against these top tier teams...
Chargers 14-2
Colts (2 games) 12-4
Saints 10-6
Broncos 9-7
Chiefs 9-7

We win 2 games against these teams-titans are improving too, jags we can split, panthers aren't that big a threat but are still good.
Jaguars (2 games) 8-8
Titans (2 games) 8-8
Panthers 8-8

We win 3 games from these teams-falcons have a new coach but still a lot of talent, dolphins...who knows next year still qb controversy, bucs...sucs?..browns..we just beat them! raiders...incredible defense, i expect their offense to get better...either w/ JR or free agent qb. or they'll get CJ.

Falcons 7-9
Dolphins 6-10
Bucs 4-12
Browns 4-12
Raiders 2-14


So I think in each grouping we could probably be +/- a game. should be an interesting year. while i think are team is really improving ..it's still going to take us time. don't forget just because we're getting better...other teams may be too. Tenn. is going to have to be reckoned with. imagine the raiders with Jamarcus Russell. the browns w/ AP? if ATL receivers learn to catch the ball?

I think 6-10 is farely likely. I hope we can stretch it up to 8-8. again i'm being concervative but i think these are more realistic predictions than a lot of very optimisic people. i don't see us winning less than 6 games....at least i really hope not.

With a good draft and FA, I could see us getting a split with the Colts (like this season, whoo) get a win from either the Broncos or Chiefs (depending on who we have at home) and I simply cant put "Saints" down as a loss, not happening. So thats 3 wins out of 6 games against the top teams.

Hopefully split with both Jags and Titans, the Pathers' game is a throw up seeing as both the Texans and Carolina have been widley inconsitant. Thats 5 or 6 wins. Then Bucs, Browns and Raiders we can count as wins (hopefully), so thats 8 or 9, with the Falcons and Dolphins games being throw ups, because both of those teams can be very good or very bad. I would probably say 8-8 is realistic with this schedule, 10-6 attainable with a perfect season (injuries, winning close games)

Ole Miss Texan
02-11-2007, 05:09 PM
With a good draft and FA, I could see us getting a split with the Colts (like this season, whoo) get a win from either the Broncos or Chiefs (depending on who we have at home) and I simply cant put "Saints" down as a loss, not happening. So thats 3 wins out of 6 games against the top teams.

Hopefully split with both Jags and Titans, the Pathers' game is a throw up seeing as both the Texans and Carolina have been widley inconsitant. Thats 5 or 6 wins. Then Bucs, Browns and Raiders we can count as wins (hopefully), so thats 8 or 9, with the Falcons and Dolphins games being throw ups, because both of those teams can be very good or very bad. I would probably say 8-8 is realistic with this schedule, 10-6 attainable with a perfect season (injuries, winning close games)

While I think that's very optimistic...It is possible and not out of the question at all. We've shown that we can play and beat just about any team when we show up to play and have a good game. but that's just it..i can't wait till we get to the point where even if we have a mediocre game..we can still win.

But then again we've also shown we can lose to just about any team when we shoot ourselves in the foot. hopefully with this better coaching we will minimize that.

bluestars87
02-11-2007, 07:01 PM
Records of the previous season aren't a very good way to indicate a team's success the next season. At least in my opinion. They don't take into account injuries, trades, the draft, and free agency acquisitions.

keyfro
02-11-2007, 09:59 PM
the schedule doesn't matter right now...we've seen superbowl teams one year go to losing teams the next year...and 3-13 teams go to the playoffs the next year...scheduling doesn't matter...getting better does...we were 6-10 this past season we need to be atleast 8-8 this upcoming season for there to be a reasonable improvement in this team...we also need our FA signing to mean something...not like weaver or flanagan last year...we need to get quality for our draft picks and we need to see something in forms of consistancy in our football team...right now we have a two game winning streak going...we are the last team to be beat the superbowl champion colts...we need to build on that and start the season with a couple of quick victories

Tulip
02-11-2007, 10:23 PM
More fun with stats - 2006 opponents with 2005 records (and 2006 records):

Colts 14-2 (12-4) L/W
Jaguars 12-4 (8-8) W/W
Giants 11-5 (8-8) L
Patriots 10-6 (12-4) L
Redskins 10-6 (5-11) L
Dolphins 9-7 (6-10) W
Cowboys 9-7 (9-7) L

Browns 6-10 (4-12) W
Eagles 6-10 (10-6) L
Bills 5-11 (7-9) L
Titans 4-12 (8-8) L/L
Jets 4-12 (10-6) L
Raiders 4-12 (2-14) W

Games against opponents with winning records in the prior year:

In 2006 - 9
In 2007 - 5

Texans Horror
02-12-2007, 10:09 AM
NFC South is not as tough as the NFC East, IMO, and I'm expecting them to pick up two games there. The Texans should split even in the AFC South. The Texans have a history of the Any Given Sunday rule, so I think they'll beat a New Orleans or San Diego. Unfortunately, they also lose games they should win, so I expect them to lose to the Browns, Raiders, Fins, or Bucs.

With so much to go, it's hard to say what will happen, but I'm already going to say 9-7, first winning season.

Key to success this season will be Spencer's rehab and picking up any combination of these players: Ahman Green, Adrian Peterson, Ryan Kalil, Levi Brown, Alan Branch, Amobi Okoye.

TexansSB07
02-12-2007, 11:54 AM
Wait...how is it possible where we face 11 teams with above .500 records last season and 10 teams with below .500 records?

because The Moron John Clayton can't count we have 9 teams with 8-8 or better, and that is ridculous to say it like that, so EVERY team in NFL should fear playing an 8-8 team. We hung a sweep on 8-8 Jacksonville, one of Professor Doofus's claim of 11 teams...ROFLMAO. I don't bother with ESPN they went 0-8 in postseason. I use them for a laugh

RTP2110
02-12-2007, 07:45 PM
because The Moron John Clayton can't count we have 9 teams with 8-8 or better, and that is ridculous to say it like that, so EVERY team in NFL should fear playing an 8-8 team. We hung a sweep on 8-8 Jacksonville, one of Professor Doofus's claim of 11 teams...ROFLMAO. I don't bother with ESPN they went 0-8 in postseason. I use them for a laugh

We play 9 teams at .500 or better, but we play two of those teams twice. That makes 9 teams, but 11 games.

!! ITEAF !!
02-19-2007, 07:40 PM
Depending on what happens in the offseason it looks like we could be anywhere from 6-10 to 11-5.
10-6

BleedTheBurntOrange
02-19-2007, 07:50 PM
It all depends on who our QB is thats who determines how our season will go.

Just like in the NBA with the point guard, the MLB with the pitcher, and the NHL with the goalie your most important position determines how much success you have.

Whether its a QB who can carry the team on his back(brady) or one who just manages the game to make it easier on the rest of the team(dilfer 2000,brad johnson 2004) if we get that position settled we will make an impact.