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swoldier
02-05-2007, 11:00 AM
Well Im not sure why Im not quite sure what it means to the Texans, but i stumbled upon some information that seems relevant to the Texans offseason. Say what you want but the facts are Nate Clements and Michael Lewis have recently bought homes in Houston and from someone working on the promo reel for next season. It does not have one clip one highlight or one mention of David Carr..... Very Interesting indeed!! What say the Texans fans?

tulexan
02-05-2007, 11:05 AM
Clements and Lewis probably bought homes in Houston because there is no income tax in Texas. I don't think that they bought houses in Houston last year with the intentions of signing with the Texans this offseason.

Dream all you want, but that is most likely the reality of the situation.

Mr. White
02-05-2007, 11:07 AM
They're also both from Houston. Clements is on record for being interested in playing here.....if the money's right.

Bongo59
02-05-2007, 11:07 AM
Most players live in state with no state income tax so I would not read into too much. Clemments made some big comments about playing against VY as well saying how impressed he was with him. We are not reading much into that. I think Nate will go where the money is largest......see David Givens Houston native

Texans Horror
02-05-2007, 11:10 AM
I thought Clements already lived in Houston...?

Lucky
02-05-2007, 11:24 AM
What say the Texans fans?
Michael Lewis is from the Houston area and would probably be very interested in joining the Texans. Nate Clements suggested on a 610AM radio interview that he would consider the Texans. But, it's all about the $$$.

I saw the "This is Football Country" season review DVD the Texans sent out. While it did show Carr's leap into the endzone against the Giants, I don't believe he was mentioned by the narrator by name. AJ, Dunta, DeMeco, and Mario were the players who were highlighted. What does that mean? Well, when was the last video the Texans produced that didn't feature David Carr?

run-david-run
02-05-2007, 12:28 PM
Michael Lewis is from the Houston area and would probably be very interested in joining the Texans. Nate Clements suggested on a 610AM radio interview that he would consider the Texans. But, it's all about the $$$.

I saw the "This is Football Country" season review DVD the Texans sent out. While it did show Carr's leap into the endzone against the Giants, I don't believe he was mentioned by the narrator by name. AJ, Dunta, DeMeco, and Mario were the players who were highlighted. What does that mean? Well, when was the last video the Texans produced that didn't feature David Carr?
Umm, David Carr is one of, if not the least popular Texan player right now. I think its an obvious marketing decision to focus on the popular guys like AJ, Meco, Drob and Mario.

Lucky
02-05-2007, 12:48 PM
I think its an obvious marketing decision to focus on the popular guys like AJ, Meco, Drob and Mario.
It's an obvious marketing decision to focus on the guys who will be here next season.

CarrIsFine
02-05-2007, 01:22 PM
Well Im not sure why Im not quite sure what it means to the Texans, but i stumbled upon some information that seems relevant to the Texans offseason. Say what you want but the facts are Nate Clements and Michael Lewis have recently bought homes in Houston and from someone working on the promo reel for next season. It does not have one clip one highlight or one mention of David Carr..... Very Interesting indeed!! What say the Texans fans?

Right on cue, with the start of the offseason come the posts full of speculation and misinfering.

I heard Carr bought a down jacket and snow boots. Could this mean he's moving somewhere with snow? Chicago? Green Bay? Probably not, but just maybe.

nunusguy
02-05-2007, 01:51 PM
Clements and Lewis probably bought homes in Houston because there is no income tax in Texas.

I dunno Tulexan, but are you saying that Clements, who earns all of his income and resides for much of the year in the state of NY can avoid the state income tax of NY if he buys a home in a non-IT state like TX on the theory that TX is his legal domicile ?

edo783
02-05-2007, 02:33 PM
I dunno Tulexan, but are you saying that Clements, who earns all of his income and resides for much of the year in the state of NY can avoid the state income tax of NY if he buys a home in a non-IT state like TX on the theory that TX is his legal domicile ?

Yup. Bush senior did it for years and he only had an address at the Houston Club IIRC. It is based on where you claim your primary home. Have to go there a few times a year I think.

DocBar
02-05-2007, 02:37 PM
I dunno Tulexan, but are you saying that Clements, who earns all of his income and resides for much of the year in the state of NY can avoid the state income tax of NY if he buys a home in a non-IT state like TX on the theory that TX is his legal domicile ?

That would be correct. I do the same thing every year. He probably will have to pay the "luxery tax" I keep hearing about for very high wage earners.

Texas
02-05-2007, 02:37 PM
If we get both of them are defense will improve immediatetly and drastically!

DocBar
02-05-2007, 02:38 PM
Clements and Lewis probably bought homes in Houston because there is no income tax in Texas. I don't think that they bought houses in Houston last year with the intentions of signing with the Texans this offseason.

Dream all you want, but that is most likely the reality of the situation.

Why're you crapping on my heart?!?!?!?!
I reject your reality and substitute my own.:bubble:

thunderkyss
02-05-2007, 02:41 PM
I dunno........ If I cross the state line & work in Lousianna, they take Lousianna State Income tax out of my paycheck...... then I have to file at the end of the year....

But..... there's no way that Clements or Lewis could believe they'll be Texans next year.... & nobody buys a house on Wishful thinking.

DocBar
02-05-2007, 02:44 PM
I dunno........ If I cross the state line & work in Lousianna, they take Lousianna State Income tax out of my paycheck...... then I have to file at the end of the year....

But..... there's no way that Clements or Lewis could believe they'll be Texans next year.... & nobody buys a house on Wishful thinking.

Some states make you fill out a waiver. If you don't, thye take the tax out. Talk to your employer. La. and Kentucky are hard states to deal with, though.

old football fan
02-05-2007, 02:50 PM
I dunno Tulexan, but are you saying that Clements, who earns all of his income and resides for much of the year in the state of NY can avoid the state income tax of NY if he buys a home in a non-IT state like TX on the theory that TX is his legal domicile ?

If you earn money in that state you must pay their income tax. My wife does payroll for an international co. who is also in all 50 states. Ask an Astros player. If he plays a game in calif. he must pay income tax to Calif. It's not where you live but where you EARNED the money at.

real
02-05-2007, 02:58 PM
If he plays a game in calif. he must pay income tax to Calif. It's not where you live but where you EARNED the money at.

I don't think you meant it like that...

Because that's like saying If I work for a company that sends me out of state to do work, then I'd have to pay said states income tax...

Isn't it supposed to be determined by where your job is located ?

K.D.
02-05-2007, 03:08 PM
Some states make you fill out a waiver. If you don't, thye take the tax out. Talk to your employer. La. and Kentucky are hard states to deal with, though.

You are absolutely correct. I work in La. and when I got hired, I signed a waiver to avoid paying La. state taxes.

texasguy346
02-05-2007, 03:13 PM
Not all that surprising about Clements & Lewis buying houses in the Houston area. They get more bang for their buck down in this region when it comes to real estate.

Yankee_In_TX
02-05-2007, 03:15 PM
Why're you crapping on my heart?!?!?!?!
I reject your reality and substitute my own.:bubble:

Hope you don't mind my new signature, I almost spit out my coffee when I read that!

thunderkyss
02-05-2007, 03:41 PM
If you earn money in that state you must pay their income tax. My wife does payroll for an international co. who is also in all 50 states. Ask an Astros player. If he plays a game in calif. he must pay income tax to Calif. It's not where you live but where you EARNED the money at.

I use Louisiana in my examples, because it's just on the other side of Sabine Lake from where I live. I work on the North side of the Lake, which is smack dab in the middle of Texas & LA...... I know many people who live here, but work there, and pay LA's income taxes(I'll have to let them know about this waiver). I also know people who live there, but work here, and pay LAs income tax, but they don't pay property tax... like we do here in Texas....

the wonger need food
02-05-2007, 03:56 PM
They're also both from Houston. Clements is on record for being interested in playing here.....if the money's right.

Clements is from Ohio, not Houston.

Mr. White
02-05-2007, 04:01 PM
Clements is from Ohio, not Houston.

That's what I get for repeating something that I read on this board and not looking into it myself.

:bag:

Texan_Bill
02-05-2007, 04:09 PM
They're also both from Houston. Clements is on record for being interested in playing here.....if the money's right.

But..... "it's not about the money......"

Anyway, a lot of athletes live in Houston during their respective off-seasons. I think the majority of those guys are probably basketball players, but I am sure that other sports guys are inclined to live here as well... In basketball, people like Nick Van Exel, Penny Hardaway (which neither has had anything to do with the Rockets) and of course Steve Francis and Cutino still live here as well as many others.

Relatively low cost of living + no state income tax + golf almost year round = residing in H-town!

Blu
02-05-2007, 04:13 PM
ahh Bill, you forgot the most important item.. the hott latinas.
:drunk:

texans83
02-05-2007, 04:15 PM
very true

tulexan
02-05-2007, 04:20 PM
I dunno Tulexan, but are you saying that Clements, who earns all of his income and resides for much of the year in the state of NY can avoid the state income tax of NY if he buys a home in a non-IT state like TX on the theory that TX is his legal domicile ?

He will have to pay state tax on all of his game checks (even road games), but other cash bonuses or sponsorships will be allocated to living in Texas.

CoastalTexan
02-05-2007, 04:21 PM
True Indeed Blu.

swoldier
02-05-2007, 04:58 PM
Right on cue, with the start of the offseason come the posts full of speculation and misinfering.

I heard Carr bought a down jacket and snow boots. Could this mean he's moving somewhere with snow? Chicago? Green Bay? Probably not, but just maybe.

This isnt speculation these are the facts. They both bought a house in Houston, and David Carr isnt in the newly minted promo reel from someone who is currently working on the project. Now your right this could mean a million different things, but its very coincidental that at the offseason when teams are going to make moves they both buy a house and David Carr is no where to be seen in next years promo reel. Like I said in the original post I dont know what it means, but very interesting....Wouldnt you say?

TexansSeminole
02-05-2007, 05:18 PM
Michael Lewis is from the Houston area and would probably be very interested in joining the Texans. Nate Clements suggested on a 610AM radio interview that he would consider the Texans. But, it's all about the $$$.

I saw the "This is Football Country" season review DVD the Texans sent out. While it did show Carr's leap into the endzone against the Giants, I don't believe he was mentioned by the narrator by name. AJ, Dunta, DeMeco, and Mario were the players who were highlighted. What does that mean? Well, when was the last video the Texans produced that didn't feature David Carr?

Or, better yet, what highlights would you show???? With every o.k. highlight there is 2 fumbles and an INT.

Texan_Bill
02-05-2007, 05:34 PM
ahh Bill, you forgot the most important item.. the hott latinas.
:drunk:

LOL!!!! There's my Blu..... Always looking out for me....

Next time just punch me in the mouth for forgetting the most important part of living in H-town: "the hott latinas."

Ole Miss Texan
02-05-2007, 05:49 PM
ahh Bill, you forgot the most important item.. the hott latinas.
:drunk:


Dont you mean the :drunk: latinas?!

EF55
02-05-2007, 06:54 PM
Which Michael Lewis are you speaking of? The saints or eagles?

hollywood_texan
02-05-2007, 07:10 PM
I don't think you meant it like that...

Because that's like saying If I work for a company that sends me out of state to do work, then I'd have to pay said states income tax...

Isn't it supposed to be determined by where your job is located ?

Technically, you probably should. However, the pratical aspect of the record keeping and auditing the records makes it more difficult to enforce on everyone.

There are only a few professional athletes from Houston that travel to say California. Therefore, they will be paying California state income tax on games played in California. It's basically easy money for states and local municipalities to track professional athletes down and get paid. All they have to do is get the schedules from the NBA, NFL, and MLB, combined with the rosters, and easy money!

swoldier
02-05-2007, 07:11 PM
Which Michael Lewis are you speaking of? The saints or eagles?

Eagles

nunusguy
02-05-2007, 11:22 PM
Yup. Bush senior did it for years and he only had an address at the Houston Club IIRC. It is based on where you claim your primary home. Have to go there a few times a year I think.
It just doesn't seem like it'd be that easy ? I don't know anything about NY.
I've worked alot away from home (out of state) over the last 15 years or so
in several different states - WV, CO, NM, WA, GA, ID - and there is not uniformity among the different states as to what their reporting requirements
are for earning salaries/wages within their borders if those people aren't full time or permanent residences of their state. And many times taxpayers don't observe local tax rules & regs thinking that their time in the other states are temporary and those states can't enforce their laws agaisnt a temp resident.

The Pencil Neck
02-06-2007, 12:54 AM
I dunno Tulexan, but are you saying that Clements, who earns all of his income and resides for much of the year in the state of NY can avoid the state income tax of NY if he buys a home in a non-IT state like TX on the theory that TX is his legal domicile ?

Sure, why not? If you buy a home in a particular state and declare that as your main residence, you can then work in another state but pay taxes to your home state (if it has any.) I believe there are restrictions to how many days you have to actually be in your home state but I don't know those numbers offhand; I don't really think it's all that high, a couple of months or so. My wife and I have been together for 22 years and we've lived in 15 different places (4 different states, about 5-6 different metropolitan areas) and we've considered setting up Texas as our primary residence a couple of different times, but it has always made more sense to just suck it up and move.

The Pencil Neck
02-06-2007, 01:09 AM
It just doesn't seem like it'd be that easy ? I don't know anything about NY.
I've worked alot away from home (out of state) over the last 15 years or so
in several different states - WV, CO, NM, WA, GA, ID - and there is not uniformity among the different states as to what their reporting requirements
are for earning salaries/wages within their borders if those people aren't full time or permanent residences of their state. And many times taxpayers don't observe local tax rules & regs thinking that their time in the other states are temporary and those states can't enforce their laws agaisnt a temp resident.

I thought it was all about residence and if your main residence was considered being in a particular state, then you paid that state's taxes (if there were any) for any income you make.

There was one year that we lived in Arizona for 9 months and then California for 3 and my income was split between the states of my residence according to where I was living (not where I was working.) A similar thing happened a couple of other times. In those cases, I've worked in one state (or split time) and lived in another and my income tax was reported based on the state of my residence.

My current situation is odd and not quite applicable to the current discussion because for the past 16 years or so, I've worked all over the place even though my employers have been in California*. My state income tax during that period has been based on my residence. But it's different because I'm not physically going to California and working; I'm working from my residence wherever that is at the time.

* One situation was really complicated because my employer was actually in Florida, the people I was working for were in California, and I was living in California, Texas, and Pennsylvania at different times. But according to the CPAs in that company, my income tax was determined by the state where I resided.