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Ole Miss Texan
01-22-2007, 11:16 PM
Found this when I was looking through some mock drafts. For those that know more about this..is there any merit to these figures? I have no idea where they came from. I posted this here because there are a lot of questions about our cap room and how possibly moving David Carr and signing other FA this offseason could affect this.

Team Total Cap Room
1 Green Bay Packers $67,000,000 $35,000,000

2 Minnesota Vikings $71,100,000 $30,900,000

3 Arizona Cardinals $73,100,000 $28,900,000

4 Cleveland Browns $74,900,000 $27,100,000

5 Philadelphia Eagles $75,900,000 $26,100,000

6 San Diego Chargers $77,400,000 $24,600,000

7 Jacksonville Jaguars $78,600,000 $23,400,000

8 Dallas Cowboys $79,400,000 $22,600,000

9 St. Louis Rams $79,900,000 $22,100,000

10 New Orleans Saints $81,800,000 $20,200,000

11 San Francisco 49ers $81,800,000 $20,200,000

12 Detroit Lions $84,300,000 $17,700,000

13 Seattle Seahawks $84,700,000 $17,300,000

14 New England Patriots $85,100,000 $16,900,000

15 Cincinnati Bengals $85,400,000 $16,600,000

16 Chicago Bears $87,100,000 $14,900,000

17 Buffalo Bills $87,900,000 $14,100,000

18 New York Jets $88,000,000 $14,000,000

19 Houston Texans $89,300,000 $12,700,000

20 Atlanta Falcons $89,800,000 $12,200,000

21 Denver Broncos $91,100,000 $10,900,000

22 Baltimore Ravens $91,400,000 $10,600,000

23 Carolina Panthers $91,600,000 $10,400,000

24 New York Giants $92,100,000 $9,900,000

25 Kansas City Chiefs $94,700,000 $7,300,000

26 Miami Dolphins $95,700,000 $6,300,000

27 Tennessee Titans $95,800,000 $6,200,000

28 Pittsburgh Steelers $95,900,000 $6,100,000

29 Tampa Bay Buccaneers $96,900,000 $5,100,000

30 Oakland Raiders $101,347,000 $653,000

31 Washington Redskins $106,900,000 $-4,900,000

32 Indianapolis Colts $107,900,000 $-5,900,000

http://footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=100178

AtheGreat
01-22-2007, 11:23 PM
I'm thinking that 12.7 mill is how much we'll have to spend. 89 mill is the total team salary. so, 12.7 = about 1 nasty FA signing or a few decent ones.

TexanSam
01-22-2007, 11:25 PM
I don't know if those are correct or not, but the cap always seems to rise every season. So if the Texans have $13 million to spend right now, I'm guessing an extra $4-5 million will be added if/when the cap raises. $100 million plus on a group of 53 guys. God our society is great...

Ole Miss Texan
01-22-2007, 11:33 PM
I don't know if those are correct or not, but the cap always seems to rise every season. So if the Texans have $13 million to spend right now, I'm guessing an extra $4-5 million will be added if/when the cap raises. $100 million plus on a group of 53 guys. God our society is great...

No joke, I should have played football. I had really had the potential .....if I was about 4 inches taller, 100 lbs more, and a lot more athletic. guess i shouldnt quit the day job any time soon.

tulexan
01-22-2007, 11:33 PM
I believe I remember hearing the Niners have about $40M in cap space and the Titans almost have that much as well. I don't think these are accurate.

TexansLucky13
01-22-2007, 11:33 PM
The Colts better win this year, because they ain't gettin' any upgrades this offseason. Also, I believe they will lose Freeney, won't they?

Please_Evolve
01-22-2007, 11:34 PM
Scary that the Chargers and Eagles two really good teams have that much cap space to play with.....

thunderkyss
01-22-2007, 11:43 PM
I'm thinking that 12.7 mill is how much we'll have to spend. 89 mill is the total team salary. so, 12.7 = about 1 nasty FA signing or a few decent ones.

If we sign a guy for 5 years with a $25 million bonus, and $2.2 million salary, his cap hit may be as low as $7 million, & that would be one bad ass signing.

Cutting David is also supposed to give us $3 million, and the cap should be raised here soon..... so we're in pretty good shape.

TexansLucky13
01-22-2007, 11:49 PM
Cutting David is also supposed to give us $3 million, and the cap should be raised here soon..... so we're in pretty good shape.

What you meant to say was "That is another three million that we will never see again". Bet your bottom dollar that David is a Texan through 2007....

mexican_texan
01-22-2007, 11:53 PM
After we re-sign our guys and the draft picks, we should have enough for a certain NE corner...

dirty steve
01-22-2007, 11:54 PM
The Colts better win this year, because they ain't gettin' any upgrades this offseason. Also, I believe they will lose Freeney, won't they?
I believe they let Edgerrin James go in hopes that they can have enough cap room to lock up Freeney long term.

2BCF
01-23-2007, 01:45 AM
What you meant to say was "That is another three million that we will never see again". Bet your bottom dollar that David is a Texan through 2007....

Carr is done as a Texan. :fans:

HJam72
01-23-2007, 02:44 AM
No joke, I should have played football. I had really had the potential .....if I was about 4 inches taller, 100 lbs more, and a lot more athletic. guess i shouldnt quit the day job any time soon.

All you gotta do is wear 4 inch heels, eat 'till you bust, and still be athletic. :ok:

Hey, I'd do it for that much money. :winky:

SamuraiSword
01-23-2007, 07:16 AM
What you meant to say was "That is another three million that we will never see again". Bet your bottom dollar that David is a Texan through 2007....

So you like mediocore QB's?????

Honoring Earl 34
01-23-2007, 08:00 AM
No joke, I should have played football. I had really had the potential .....if I was about 4 inches taller, 100 lbs more, and a lot more athletic. guess i shouldnt quit the day job any time soon.

I had a friend back in the day who told me NFL scouts said he was a LB prospect except for being to short and too slow .

yourfavoritetexan42
01-23-2007, 08:03 AM
Not bad, but not great either, abviously mediocre if we are 19th. The good part we have a lot of players,they were just injured. I don't see us signing more than one big name, so people who want clements and briggs, can't have both. I would much rather Michael Lewis and Asante Samuel, because we could aquire both by staying under our cap limit.

mexican_texan
01-23-2007, 08:07 AM
So you like mediocore QB's?????
Too much of a cap hit, Carr is staying.

OzzO
01-23-2007, 08:09 AM
Wow, I thought our contracts were out of wack in relation to player performance. Oakland is really jacked if these numbers are true. To be 3rd from bottom and have the #1 pick? No wonder there's that rumor of wanting to trade some players with Atl and swap first round picks.

Wharton
01-23-2007, 08:13 AM
I'd hate to be the coach taking over the Raiders. One of the highest salaries and no cap room at all.

Yuk!

GP
01-23-2007, 08:29 AM
I believe they let Edgerrin James go in hopes that they can have enough cap room to lock up Freeney long term.

I remember (or at least I think I remember) that the Colts wanted to put their big money on Reggie Wayne...which is why they couldn't afford Edge.

Texans_Chick
01-23-2007, 09:16 AM
I'd hate to be the coach taking over the Raiders. One of the highest salaries and no cap room at all.

Yuk!

Oh, and playing one of the hardest schedules in the league next year.

But if you are a starter coach, you cut your teeth there and then go flee Al as soon as you can for a good job.

Meloy
01-23-2007, 10:29 AM
Not bad, but not great either, abviously mediocre if we are 19th. The good part we have a lot of players,they were just injured. I don't see us signing more than one big name, so people who want clements and briggs, can't have both. I would much rather Michael Lewis and Asante Samuel, because we could aquire both by staying under our cap limit.I do not disagree with you but the CHronicle has indicated one major signing for defense (such as corner) and a lower impact player on offense. The salary cap range I've heard is $10- 13 million. I understood that was before the new cap which should increase another 3-4m. Since then Smith has indicated a desire to adjust salaries & I think the recent hiring of the NFL cap guru supports a major effort in that respect. Bidding war or not I just don't see Clemments getting $10 million in first year of a new contract so we should be in solid on bidding; leaving him choice of where to go. His home in the Woodlands may impact.

Meloy
01-23-2007, 10:34 AM
Oh, and playing one of the hardest schedules in the league next year.

But if you are a starter coach, you cut your teeth there and then go flee Al as soon as you can for a good job.I agree. New coach can't lose on this resume builder. If he makes improvements his stock goes up. If he sinks, most will pity his position unless he just makes sorry decisions.

thunderkyss
01-23-2007, 10:34 AM
What you meant to say was "That is another three million that we will never see again". Bet your bottom dollar that David is a Texan through 2007....

Wouldn't bother me one bit to see David here in Houston..... he's exactly what you are looking for in a back-up QB....

But I said what I meant. If we keep David, we pay him $4 million plus his $5.5 million dollar salary(or something like that).... $2 mill of the bonus, plus his salary goes against the cap......... $7.5 million

If he is cut, only the $4 million bonus goes against the cap. We save $3.5 million against the cap.

thunderkyss
01-23-2007, 10:42 AM
I agree. New coach can't lose on this resume builder. If he makes improvements his stock goes up. If he sinks, most will pity his position unless he just makes sorry decisions.

But it's not like the Raiders don't have talent. Jerry Porter, Randy Moss, Justin Fargas, Warren Sapp, Michael Huff.....

They were #3 overall in total defense, #1 against the pass, and better than Philly, Indy, Washington, & StLouis against the run.

There problem was Art Shell, that's why he isn't there anymore. I don't think he handled the Jerrry Porter thing very well, and he couldn't get the guys on offense to play very well. That team isn't as bad as we were last year, and look at us now..

hollywood_texan
01-23-2007, 12:14 PM
Found this when I was looking through some mock drafts. For those that know more about this..is there any merit to these figures? I have no idea where they came from. I posted this here because there are a lot of questions about our cap room and how possibly moving David Carr and signing other FA this offseason could affect this.

Team Total Cap Room
1 Green Bay Packers $67,000,000 $35,000,000

2 Minnesota Vikings $71,100,000 $30,900,000

3 Arizona Cardinals $73,100,000 $28,900,000

4 Cleveland Browns $74,900,000 $27,100,000

5 Philadelphia Eagles $75,900,000 $26,100,000

6 San Diego Chargers $77,400,000 $24,600,000

7 Jacksonville Jaguars $78,600,000 $23,400,000

8 Dallas Cowboys $79,400,000 $22,600,000

9 St. Louis Rams $79,900,000 $22,100,000

10 New Orleans Saints $81,800,000 $20,200,000

11 San Francisco 49ers $81,800,000 $20,200,000

12 Detroit Lions $84,300,000 $17,700,000

13 Seattle Seahawks $84,700,000 $17,300,000

14 New England Patriots $85,100,000 $16,900,000

15 Cincinnati Bengals $85,400,000 $16,600,000

16 Chicago Bears $87,100,000 $14,900,000

17 Buffalo Bills $87,900,000 $14,100,000

18 New York Jets $88,000,000 $14,000,000

19 Houston Texans $89,300,000 $12,700,000

20 Atlanta Falcons $89,800,000 $12,200,000

21 Denver Broncos $91,100,000 $10,900,000

22 Baltimore Ravens $91,400,000 $10,600,000

23 Carolina Panthers $91,600,000 $10,400,000

24 New York Giants $92,100,000 $9,900,000

25 Kansas City Chiefs $94,700,000 $7,300,000

26 Miami Dolphins $95,700,000 $6,300,000

27 Tennessee Titans $95,800,000 $6,200,000

28 Pittsburgh Steelers $95,900,000 $6,100,000

29 Tampa Bay Buccaneers $96,900,000 $5,100,000

30 Oakland Raiders $101,347,000 $653,000

31 Washington Redskins $106,900,000 $-4,900,000

32 Indianapolis Colts $107,900,000 $-5,900,000

http://footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=100178

Going through this cap schedule, I don't see any correlation between a team spending more or less money and the result connecting to better or worse.

My point is, spending money for the sake of spending isn't important, picking the players is what is important. However, the less money you spend and the more successful you are, you don't go to CAP HELL at some point and not required to totally gut your team and start from scratch.

My point is, the Texans really don't need to overspend in the free agency market. Have a good draft like last year and find some gems that will fit well within the system that will give the appearance those free agent pickups are overachieving, which in reality, they just fit the system.

Unfortunately, Carr needs more talent around him to evaluate him, which means you need to spend more money than usual, otherwise you have the same excuse from previous years why the offense isn't successful in scoring points. This is delimma with keeping Carr, spend more money than required or risk the same old results and correspodning excuse...

NATHANHALE
01-23-2007, 12:16 PM
"he's exactly what you are looking for in a back-up QB.... "

I'm assuming your point here is that this is because--as a back-up--he'd never play unless someone got hurt. However, if he plays, we're screwed...and why would you pay a mediocre back-up a 'starter's' salary?

texans83
01-23-2007, 12:32 PM
"he's exactly what you are looking for in a back-up QB.... "

I'm assuming your point here is that this is because--as a back-up--he'd never play unless someone got hurt. However, if he plays, we're screwed...abd why would you pay a mediocre back-up a 'starter's' salary?

Good point!!!!

old football fan
01-23-2007, 01:26 PM
Don't count on that extra $3 million for Carr. If he isn't traded he sure as heck won't be cut.

dgar3752
01-23-2007, 01:26 PM
1. The cap will be raised
2. Players like Payne,Wong,Weigart will have their contracts restructured or risk being flat out cut.

Therefore,

We will have plenty of money to sign a stud of some sort. Hopefully someone like Clement,Samuel,Thomas,June,Briggs.

Looking back on the history of the broncos, Smith seemed to always bring in guys that were impact starters....which is good for the texans bc alot of the guys on our team would be considered as depth on another

thunderkyss
01-23-2007, 01:54 PM
"he's exactly what you are looking for in a back-up QB.... "

I'm assuming your point here is that this is because--as a back-up--he'd never play unless someone got hurt. However, if he plays, we're screwed...abd why would you pay a mediocre back-up a 'starter's' salary?

No...... you're back up should be able to come in, and not make a mistake that will give away the game. I like for a back up to also have un-tapped potential... with something to prove.


I didn't say I agreed with how he was being paid. We've been overpaying him for the last 5 years, what's one more. With David On the bench, we'd get to see how our line can perform with someone who is competant..... maybe he'll play a little more relaxed if he has to come into the game, knowing the line can give him some protection.

Meloy
01-23-2007, 02:00 PM
1. The cap will be raised
2. Players like Payne,Wong,Weigart will have their contracts restructured or risk being flat out cut.

Therefore,

We will have plenty of money to sign a stud of some sort. Hopefully someone like Clement,Samuel,Thomas,June,Briggs.

Looking back on the history of the broncos, Smith seemed to always bring in guys that were impact starters....which is good for the texans bc alot of the guys on our team would be considered as depth on another
My point exactly. If Carrs is kept, why won't they ask him to restructure? I think Our 2nd best weapon this off season will be the cap guru (having problems with his name today). If they want, I think we could be at $18 m under and that is some gravy.

Nashville-Titan
01-23-2007, 04:01 PM
Those are 2006 Cap Numbers. Not 2007.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

Here is what the 2007 Projected Cap looks like:

Rank/Team/Projected cap room

1/San Francisco/$42.1M

2/Buffalo/$39.7M

3/Arizona/$36.7M

4/Tennessee/$36M

5/Cleveland/$33.3M

6/Minnesota/$32.4M

7 (tie)/Jacksonville/$32M

7/St. Louis/$32M

9/New England/$30.4M

10/Cincinnati/$30.2M

11/New Orleans/$29.9M

12/Green Bay/$29.5M

13/New York Jets/$26.1M

14/San Diego/$24.6M

15/Tampa Bay/$24.2

16/Detroit/$23.8M

17/Chicago/$23.4M

18/Seattle/$22.5M

19/Dallas/$21.5M

20/Miami/$17.8M

21/New York Giants/$15.7M

22/Oakland/$14.1M

23/Houston/$13.3

24/Atlanta/$10M

25/Philadelphia/$12.4M

26/Denver/$7.6M

27/Kansas City/$7M

28/Baltimore/$5.7M

29/Indianapolis/$4.9M

30/Carolina/$3.4M

31/Washington/$951,000

32/Pittsburgh/$150,000

NATHANHALE
01-23-2007, 05:19 PM
No...... you're back up should be able to come in, and not make a mistake that will give away the game. I like for a back up to also have un-tapped potential... with something to prove.


I didn't say I agreed with how he was being paid. We've been overpaying him for the last 5 years, what's one more. With David On the bench, we'd get to see how our line can perform with someone who is competant..... maybe he'll play a little more relaxed if he has to come into the game, knowing the line can give him some protection.

TK, Carr is known for making mistakes and not putting points on the board...isn't 5 yrs long enough to show just a little 'hint' of un-tapped potential...with something to prove.?

IMO, if Carr is on the roster, he'll play. There is no way they'll pay him that kind of money to ride the bench....

...and, as Hollywood Texan said on another thread--if we keep Carr, we'd better get him all the players he needs to play at a level that can put points on the board...if we don't, nothing else is going to matter.

dgar3752
01-23-2007, 05:21 PM
Those are 2006 Cap Numbers. Not 2007.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

Here is what the 2007 Projected Cap looks like:

Rank/Team/Projected cap room

1/San Francisco/$42.1M

2/Buffalo/$39.7M

3/Arizona/$36.7M

4/Tennessee/$36M

5/Cleveland/$33.3M

6/Minnesota/$32.4M

7 (tie)/Jacksonville/$32M

7/St. Louis/$32M

9/New England/$30.4M

10/Cincinnati/$30.2M

11/New Orleans/$29.9M

12/Green Bay/$29.5M

13/New York Jets/$26.1M

14/San Diego/$24.6M

15/Tampa Bay/$24.2

16/Detroit/$23.8M

17/Chicago/$23.4M

18/Seattle/$22.5M

19/Dallas/$21.5M

20/Miami/$17.8M

21/New York Giants/$15.7M

22/Oakland/$14.1M

23/Houston/$13.3

24/Atlanta/$10M

25/Philadelphia/$12.4M

26/Denver/$7.6M

27/Kansas City/$7M

28/Baltimore/$5.7M

29/Indianapolis/$4.9M

30/Carolina/$3.4M

31/Washington/$951,000

32/Pittsburgh/$150,000

If thats the case..we need to def. restructure some contracts. Thats too much money tied up in players that dont produce

the wonger need food
01-23-2007, 05:58 PM
I believe that the salary cap goes up to $109 million next season.

We should have paid off some dead money contracts this year (Walker, Wade, Coleman, etc.) and will probably cut some high-dollar guys like Weigert, Wong, Payne, Domanick, etc., so we should be in pretty good shape cap-wise.

Bubbajwp
01-23-2007, 06:04 PM
You want to keep around 5 million to sign your rookies. So we should only have about 8 million to sign FA's with.

Texan_Aggie222
01-23-2007, 07:12 PM
Those are 2006 Cap Numbers. Not 2007.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

Here is what the 2007 Projected Cap looks like:

Rank/Team/Projected cap room

1/San Francisco/$42.1M

2/Buffalo/$39.7M

3/Arizona/$36.7M

4/Tennessee/$36M

5/Cleveland/$33.3M

6/Minnesota/$32.4M

7 (tie)/Jacksonville/$32M

7/St. Louis/$32M

9/New England/$30.4M

10/Cincinnati/$30.2M

11/New Orleans/$29.9M

12/Green Bay/$29.5M

13/New York Jets/$26.1M

14/San Diego/$24.6M

15/Tampa Bay/$24.2

16/Detroit/$23.8M

17/Chicago/$23.4M

18/Seattle/$22.5M

19/Dallas/$21.5M

20/Miami/$17.8M

21/New York Giants/$15.7M

22/Oakland/$14.1M

23/Houston/$13.3

24/Atlanta/$10M

25/Philadelphia/$12.4M

26/Denver/$7.6M

27/Kansas City/$7M

28/Baltimore/$5.7M

29/Indianapolis/$4.9M

30/Carolina/$3.4M

31/Washington/$951,000

32/Pittsburgh/$150,000

Yes, those are the real cap numbers for this year. Rick Smith's first job this offseason is to restructure some of the "overpayed" players forementioned in this thread. We may need Smith to do what he did during the regular season and thats to find some noname free agents and expect them to fill big roles or have one hell of a draft class.