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drafter
01-15-2007, 12:02 PM
NFLDraftPro.com (http://www.nfldraftpro.com) just updated their mock draft (http://www.nfldraftpro.com/mockdraft.html) and they have us taking Jamaal Anderson... It sounds like a nice pick... he'd be great next to Mario Williams... what a pass rush!!!

Anderson.

Texian
01-15-2007, 12:08 PM
I hope so....this is good looking draft.

Honoring Earl 34
01-15-2007, 12:27 PM
I hope so....this is good looking draft.

I would be more than pleased if we got your picks Texian .

A good pass rush = better CB/S .

yourfavoritetexan42
01-15-2007, 12:44 PM
ehh I feel we are ok between babin, peek, and weaver. And before all of you say babin sucked, he led our team with sacks, and he was on the field 30% of the time. Peek does a good job also, and Weaver is a good veteran at the defensive end. Along with ND Kalu and Mario Williams, I think we are find at the defensive end position.

I would much rather see us pickup alan branch, but if alan branch isn't available, (like in the mock draft) this is who I would like to take.

1. Leon Hall
2. Laron Landry


And in the second round, I know one of these olbs will be available:
Paul Polunski
Patrick WillisA
Lawrence Timmons
Rufus Alexander
Lamar Woodley
Quinton Moses

It is a great draft for outside linebackers, I think the strongest we have seen in years. That is very good for the Texans.

Some other plays I would like to see the Texans take in later rounds:

Tom Zbikowski
Ryan Harris (I think a very underrated offensive tackle)
Anthony Arline
Juwan Simpson
Trevor Laws
Rhema Mcknight
Drew Stanton
Drew Tate
Reggie Nelson

demecoryans#1fan
01-15-2007, 01:34 PM
I wouldnt mind seeing another first round d-linemen to replace our T. Johnson bust. I wouldn't mind a back either but I wasn't impressed with Laundry in LSUs win over Notre Dame.

K.D.
01-15-2007, 02:46 PM
I could live with this pick. Mario,anderson on the edges, move weaver inside and Johnson as the other dt. Rotation of maddux,kalu,babin, and cochran. Peek will be gone, i'm not sure about dalton and Thomas Johnson. This d-line will be the best we ever had and will give qb's some fits. Either draft a OLB or Safety in 2nd round, cuz we will get o-line help in FA. This draft is deep with secondary and Anderson IMO is the best DE of this draft class. SEC that says it all.:shades:

Hulk75
01-15-2007, 03:49 PM
We need a pass rusher?

Babin 1rd pick
Travis 1rd pick
Mario 1st rd pick
Weaver 2nd rd
Peek start of 3rd rd

Can we afford another one?

If you want your Pass Rush to get better get another CB and get some FS/SS in here.

I am a huge Mario fan, but we really do need more push up front not on the edges, Allan Branch if you do take one, need to squart the QBs into our DEs.

If they take care of the Line and RB in FA then have all the Defense you want, BUT if Dwayne Jarrett is there, DONT PASS on him! I think this kid is going to be something special.

travfrancis
01-15-2007, 04:16 PM
That's by far the best mock i've seen so far, very well done.

Texian
01-15-2007, 04:21 PM
We need a pass rusher?
If you want your Pass Rush to get better get another CB and get some FS/SS in here.

I am a huge Mario fan, but we really do need more push up front not on the edges, Allan Branch if you do take one, need to squart the QBs into our DEs.

If they take care of the Line and RB in FA then have all the Defense you want, BUT if Dwayne Jarrett is there, DONT PASS on him! I think this kid is going to be something special.

I see your a fan of the S or CB blitz package. I don't know how else a CB or S is going to rush the passer. This is not in keeping with Kubiak's comments, we need to get a pass rush from the front four (see Kubiak pressers). Branch is not going to give a pass rush either. He will clog the middle but he doesn't rush the the QB. Branch is a proto typical 3-4 nose guard. There are 2 FA 4-3 DTs that are good at rushing the passer, Rod Coleman and Vonnie Holiday.

threetoedpete
01-15-2007, 04:25 PM
We need a pass rusher?

Babin 1rd pick
Travis 1rd pick
Mario 1st rd pick
Weaver 2nd rd
Peek start of 3rd rd

Can we afford another one?

If you want your Pass Rush to get better get another CB and get some FS/SS in here.



Babin 1rd pick -productive but a marginal player. No one is afraid of Babin
Travis 1rd pick -classic under achiever who is best served in a rotation
Mario 1st rd pick- winner. Even with the bad wheel...he's a keeper. Got better all season on his hands play.
Weaver 2nd rd- great player for his roll.
Peek start of 3rd rd- pass rusher only.

Yes , can't fix the o-line ,fix the d-line. If we're keeping the Peek-Babin end because of costs, I'd prefer the DT propect next to Mario. But I could live with this pick. Come back with a LB or CB prospect @ the 39...we've got a better than fair chance for the defense to crack the top fifteen. I can wait on the stud RB- OLT in 'the 08 draft.

threetoedpete
01-15-2007, 04:34 PM
I see your a fan of the S or CB blitz package. I don't know how else a CB or S is going to rush the passer. This is not in keeping with Kubiak's comments, we need to get a pass rush from the front four (see Kubiak pressers). Branch is not going to give a pass rush either. He will clog the middle but he doesn't rush the the QB. Branch is a proto typical 3-4 nose guard. There are 2 FA 4-3 DTs that are good at rushing the passer, Rod Coleman and Vonnie Holiday.

I don't want Branch to rush the passer. I want him to stone cold throw up a brick wall on the first two downs and put the other team in third and long situations. He will do that in spades. It fits what we already got on the roster. You can bet IF he doesn't fall to eight...that's what the other guys are thinking. Browns could use him for sure. We'll see if that scenario plays out, with all day at the eight...who got the better deal three years down the road.

jjcorvallis
01-15-2007, 04:37 PM
I think that is a good pick. Anthony Weaver will be better as a defensive tackle. I know everybody's sick of picking D-lineman but I think D-line is our biggest need.(except O-line and QB)

K.D.
01-15-2007, 05:49 PM
Imagine this front 7,
Anderson.....Weaver.....Coleman(Rod).....Williams
Greenwood....Ryans.....Alexander(Rufus)

Now we should actually be pretty damn good upfront. Coleman or Holliday would be an instant upgrade, but i would prefer coleman. Anderson would be the #8 pick and Rufus we pick up in the 2nd round, but i would much prefer patrick willis but he would be long gone. Secondary will be addressed by FA and maybe a pick here or there, or vice versa with the OLB in FA and secondary in 2nd round.

johndoe
01-15-2007, 08:56 PM
Imagine this front 7,
Anderson.....Weaver.....Coleman(Rod).....Williams
Greenwood....Ryans.....Alexander(Rufus)

Now we should actually be pretty damn good upfront. Coleman or Holliday would be an instant upgrade, but i would prefer coleman. Anderson would be the #8 pick and Rufus we pick up in the 2nd round, but i would much prefer patrick willis but he would be long gone. Secondary will be addressed by FA and maybe a pick here or there, or vice versa with the OLB in FA and secondary in 2nd round.

looks great!!!!...... but then i get a sick feeling in my stomach when i see


faggins-brown-earl-robinson

rollinstone18
01-15-2007, 09:23 PM
looks great!!!!...... but then i get a sick feeling in my stomach when i see


faggins-brown-earl-robinson

Exactly. I'd rather see

Anderson, Weaver, T.Johnson, Williams

D.Bishop Ryans Greenwood

Robinson, B.Merriweather, Earl, Clements

Bubbajwp
01-15-2007, 09:27 PM
Exactly. I'd rather see

Anderson, Weaver, T.Johnson, Williams

D.Bishop Ryans Greenwood

Robinson, B.Merriweather, Earl, Clements

Id Rather see

Anderson, Weaver, TJohnson, Williams

BSiler, Ryans, Greenwood

Samuels, Earl, K Hamlin, Robinson

run-david-run
01-15-2007, 09:29 PM
Exactly. I'd rather see

Anderson, Weaver, T.Johnson, Williams

D.Bishop Ryans Greenwood

Robinson, B.Merriweather, Earl, Clements

we arnt getting Clements...there is no way we can offer him enough money to join our team over a winning franchise, we dont have the cap room. However, I would like us to add Michael Lewis at SS, then draft Merriweather at FS in the second and revamp half of our secondary. I think with Anderson, a healthy Mario, Weaver and a large stable of DT's and competent safties, we could improve every aspect of our defense.

MorKnolle
01-15-2007, 10:22 PM
I'd obviously prefer Adrian Peterson to anyone else if he falls, but after looking at a lot of these guys over the last few weeks I must say as much as I'd hate to use another 1st rounder on a DLineman I think Jamaal Anderson is climbing to my #2 wishful player in this draft. While DB is a bigger need I think FS and especially CB are deep enough that we can get a good one in the 2nd round (Brandon Meriweather would be a great pick at #39, Chris Houston, Fred Bennett, maybe a couple other CBs would be a nice pick there too) and probably get a good CB in the 3rd that could compete for a starting spot next year. Anderson would be a nice addition to our line and is one of the few players that matches what I think we need most there: a big, athletic DE that can hold up pretty well against the run and still provide pass rushing pressure off the edge.

Exactly. I'd rather see

Anderson, Weaver, T.Johnson, Williams

D.Bishop Ryans Greenwood

Robinson, B.Merriweather, Earl, Clements

This would make me a little giddy about our defense, although I'm not sure Travis Johnson can lock down a starting spot. I wouldn't mind grabbing Brandon Mebane in the 4th round if he's available, he's a pretty solid DT that can provide pretty good pressure up the middle, I wouldn't be surprised if he beat out TJ for a starting spot.

hot pickle
01-15-2007, 10:46 PM
d.robinson-b.Merriweather-m.Lewis/g.earl-r.hood
D.Bishop-D.Ryans-M.Greenwood
j.anderson-a.weaver-a.maddox/t.johnson-m.williams

i love it

YoungTexanFan
01-15-2007, 10:50 PM
I'd obviously prefer Adrian Peterson to anyone else if he falls, but after looking at a lot of these guys over the last few weeks I must say as much as I'd hate to use another 1st rounder on a DLineman I think Jamaal Anderson is climbing to my #2 wishful player in this draft. While DB is a bigger need I think FS and especially CB are deep enough that we can get a good one in the 2nd round (Brandon Meriweather would be a great pick at #39, Chris Houston, Fred Bennett, maybe a couple other CBs would be a nice pick there too) and probably get a good CB in the 3rd that could compete for a starting spot next year. Anderson would be a nice addition to our line and is one of the few players that matches what I think we need most there: a big, athletic DE that can hold up pretty well against the run and still provide pass rushing pressure off the edge.

I like Anderson too, but I just dont know at taking him for our team. I have to watch some more tape on him, but it will be hard for me to justify another 1st round d-linemen. I wouldn't mind someone like Moss or Brazerbaun in the 2nd or 4th respectfully.


This would make me a little giddy about our defense, although I'm not sure Travis Johnson can lock down a starting spot. I wouldn't mind grabbing Brandon Mebane in the 4th round if he's available, he's a pretty solid DT that can provide pretty good pressure up the middle, I wouldn't be surprised if he beat out TJ for a starting spot.

This is pretty much what I've been saying for a while, and I've been pimping Mebane on this MB for a while now.

johndoe
01-15-2007, 10:58 PM
Exactly. I'd rather see

Anderson, Weaver, T.Johnson, Williams

D.Bishop Ryans Greenwood

Robinson, B.Merriweather, Earl, Clements


the merriweather pic looks good but i dont think kubes would pic a guy with a track reacord of being in trouble with the law... it would make my year if we could sighn clements but i seriously doubt its going to happen... kubes and smith will probably be looking for an upgrade over faggins in another erea.

MorKnolle
01-15-2007, 11:04 PM
the merriweather pic looks good but i dont think kubes would pic a guy with a track reacord of being in trouble with the law... it would make my year if we could sighn clements but i seriously doubt its going to happen... kubes and smith will probably be looking for an upgrade over faggins in another erea.

What legal troubles has he had? Obviously he was involved in the FIU brawl and he had that gun incident but was never charged with anything since he legally owned and carried the gun and was defending him and/or his friends. Has he really had any other legal issues or is this the only thing, does anyone know?

I like Anderson too, but I just dont know at taking him for our team. I have to watch some more tape on him, but it will be hard for me to justify another 1st round d-linemen. I wouldn't mind someone like Moss or Brazerbaun in the 2nd or 4th respectfully.

This is pretty much what I've been saying for a while, and I've been pimping Mebane on this MB for a while now.

I'd hate to use another 1st rounder on a DLineman, but I think he'd be a better value there than any of the CBs or FSs in this draft, and I think we can get good players that fit our system at those positions later in the draft than we can with a DE, that's just my opinion at this point. As for Mebane, he's not especially great against the run but he can definitely create some pressure against the pass, if he's there on the 2nd day I'd look at taking him depending on what they decide to do with Seth Payne and if they think Travis Johnson is going to finally contribute this year.

johndoe
01-15-2007, 11:12 PM
i was probably a little quick to say that hes in trouble with the law... i was just talking to a friend of mine whos a big college fan and he said that merryweather had lots of problems with the law and i was just going on what he said... but hes a good football player i would love to pick em up in the second

hot pickle
01-15-2007, 11:20 PM
i was probably a little quick to say that hes in trouble with the law... i was just talking to a friend of mine whos a big college fan and he said that merryweather had lots of problems with the law and i was just going on what he said... but hes a good football player i would love to pick em up in the second

never heard anything about him gettin into trouble, hes a great player and i think we can get him in the 2nd, would be a great pick up

MorKnolle
01-15-2007, 11:25 PM
i was probably a little quick to say that hes in trouble with the law... i was just talking to a friend of mine whos a big college fan and he said that merryweather had lots of problems with the law and i was just going on what he said... but hes a good football player i would love to pick em up in the second

I've heard some speculation that he doens't have the best attitude around (what players from the U ever do? I guess AJ and Eric Winston both seem pretty good in that department), but other than that gun incident which wasn't really legal trouble I haven't heard anything about that. Maybe he does and I haven't heard about it, but I don't know.