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MorKnolle
01-14-2007, 10:46 PM
Going into the weekend I really thought the winner of the Patriots/Chargers game would be the eventual champ, and after this set of games I have to say I believe that as much as ever now. The Patriots easily have the most balanced team left, they have a ton of playoff experience, and they are playing very good defense right now. I'd love to see Peyton Manning finally win a Super Bowl and I despise the Patriots franchise, but Peyton is already struggling as of late anyways and he always has problems against 3-4 defenses, especially the Patriots. The Chiefs and Ravens both have a pretty badly one-sided offense that the Colts defense could concentrate on, but the Pats have shown the ability to win games all year long either passing the ball a bunch, running the ball a bunch, or a combination thereof. Here's a look at the offensive and defensive ranks of the remaining teams during the regular season:

Patriots - 11th total offense, 7th scoring offense, 6th total defense, 2nd scoring defense
Colts - 3rd total offense, T-2nd scoring offense, 21st total defense, 23rd scoring defense
Saints - 1st total offense, 5th scoring offense, 11th total defense, 13th scoring defense
Bears - 15th total offense, T-2nd scoring offense, 5th total defense, 3rd scoring defense

I composed a thread back before the draft comparing the last 20 Super Bowl winners, and in the last 20 years the worst scoring defense to win the Super Bowl was ranked 8th during that season, and the average league rank among those winners was 3.6, so if you want to follow that pattern the Saints and Colts won't win the big game. Add in that the Patriots have plenty of experience winning in the playoffs in winning three of the last five Super Bowls whereas the Saints just won their 2nd playoff game ever, the first since the 2000 season, and the Bears just had their first playoff win since the 1994 season, and although the Colts have had very successful regular seasons this is just the 2nd time in Manning's career that they've made it to the AFC championship game, for that matter coming into this season Peyton was only 3-6 in the playoffs for his career.

As much as it pains me to say so, I think they Patriots are too complete of a team and are playing too well right now to be beat. The Colts have managed to win two playoff games despite Peyton Manning so far and I expect his struggles will continue and likely get worse next week, and the Patriots are too good of a team for the Colts to beat without Maning putting up a career day. I don't think either NFC teams can hang with them, but then again on any given Sunday anything can happen, just not looking likely at this point.

Honoring Earl 34
01-14-2007, 10:50 PM
Brady , Bruschi , Vrable , and Seymour are some winning dudes when it counts . I think that they rub off on the new guys and continue to regenerate year after year .

TexanSam
01-14-2007, 10:52 PM
I think the Colts are going to go to the Super Bowl this year.

Please_Evolve
01-15-2007, 01:20 AM
Don't the colts play in the the dome this time around?

If so....don't count them out. Even Then i think Manning will be game for this one.

GanadoUHCoog
01-15-2007, 01:41 AM
I'm rooting for Colts vs. Saints

TexansLucky13
01-15-2007, 01:43 AM
if you are going to crown them, crown them. They are who we thought they were.

I was waiting for that.

:)

Rex King
01-15-2007, 01:46 AM
I like Brady. I'm just steadying myself for a week of ESPN riding his and Belicheck's jock for the next week, though. I might end up putting my foot through the TV.

mexican_texan
01-15-2007, 01:47 AM
I'm rooting for the Colts. Don't tell anyone I said that.

disaacks3
01-15-2007, 01:56 AM
I'm really pulling for Manning to get 'over the hump' and cure his post-season ills.

I'm also waiting for the refs to start calling the Pats for Illegal contact, interference, unsportsmanlike conduct, late hits, etc. like every OTHER team in the league. It's no longer funny to me when the announcers are reviewing a play where there was CONSTANT contact on the receiver the whole play and they don't bother to mention it...just because it's the Pats.

Texans Horror
01-15-2007, 11:03 AM
I thought the Chargers gave that game away, so I'm not as confident in the Pats. Defensively, the Colts have exploded in the play-offs. Since the game is not being played on a frozen tundra, the Colts have a very real shot at winning this one and going to their first superbowl.

In the NFC, the Bears are struggling on defense. For a while there, it looked like the Hawks would beat them. The Saints are looking very solid to me.

I'm seeing it Saints - Colts.

real
01-15-2007, 11:05 AM
Don't the colts play in the the dome this time around?

If so....don't count them out. Even Then i think Manning will be game for this one.

Didn't they lose to the Steelers at home last year ?

stingray
01-15-2007, 11:08 AM
The Colts are playing better D lately.

OrangeCountyTexansFan
01-15-2007, 11:21 AM
I like Brady. I'm just steadying myself for a week of ESPN riding his and Belicheck's jock for the next week, though. I might end up putting my foot through the TV.
AMEN!

TheCD
01-15-2007, 11:23 AM
I think the Pats will win, so yes...I'm ready to crown them...



But I have a feeling Viniateri is gonna get some sweet revenge, too. :shades:

MorKnolle
01-15-2007, 09:18 PM
I'm really pulling for Manning to get 'over the hump' and cure his post-season ills.

I'm also waiting for the refs to start calling the Pats for Illegal contact, interference, unsportsmanlike conduct, late hits, etc. like every OTHER team in the league. It's no longer funny to me when the announcers are reviewing a play where there was CONSTANT contact on the receiver the whole play and they don't bother to mention it...just because it's the Pats.

I've been waiting years to see those calls against the Pats, I've given up on hoping that it will actually happen. Just one more reason why I think the Pats are going to win now.

I thought the Chargers gave that game away, so I'm not as confident in the Pats. Defensively, the Colts have exploded in the play-offs. Since the game is not being played on a frozen tundra, the Colts have a very real shot at winning this one and going to their first superbowl.

In the NFC, the Bears are struggling on defense. For a while there, it looked like the Hawks would beat them. The Saints are looking very solid to me.

I'm seeing it Saints - Colts.

I agree, I think the Chargers did give the game away but I think they were the superior team by a decent margin. I think the Bears are the only team with a good enough defense to stop the Patriots but I don't trust Rex Grossman to have two more good enough games to win the Super Bowl. The Colts defense certainly has played better in the playoffs, but the Chiefs offense was only ranked 16th in yards and 15th in scoring and the Ravens offense was only ranked 17th in yards and tied for 12th in scoring, so the Colts didn't shut down elite offenses. The Patriots are a much more balanced offense than either the Chiefs or Ravens and are more talented overall, so I don't think the Colts defense will have as much success. The Colts offense has struggled during the playoffs, and they always have problems figuring out the Patriots defense. If I was a betting man my money would definitely be on the Patriots.

I think the Pats will win, so yes...I'm ready to crown them...



But I have a feeling Viniateri is gonna get some sweet revenge, too. :shades:

That would be a fitting end to the game, as much as I hate to say it I'd like to see Manning win a Super Bowl, would much rather see that than see Tom Brady win his 4th.

nunusguy
01-15-2007, 09:28 PM
I go along with the crowd that says the Chargers lost it more than
the Pats won it. Neveretheless, the Pats almost always end up on top so
they must be doing something right.
Sunday "IN" Indy for the AFC championship should be entertaining. We'll see.

Huge
01-16-2007, 12:56 PM
I picked the Ravens and Bears in the Super Bowl so what the hell do I know? :)

Mr teX
01-16-2007, 01:00 PM
i don't know about everyone else, but i am. SD blew numerous opportunities to break that game wide open & they failed. given the history of Brady vs. Manning, I'd be really surprised if the Colts win. I want to see Manning win one cause i hate to see guys that good get robbed of that joy.....................unless he's facing the texans

axman40
01-16-2007, 01:04 PM
I do not support premature crowning!

:aikido:

GoPats
01-16-2007, 01:12 PM
I think the Pats will win, so yes...I'm ready to crown them...



But I have a feeling Viniateri is gonna get some sweet revenge, too. :shades:

Isn't this kind of an inherent contradiction? If Vinatieri gets his revenge, his team won't lose. I'm confused.

colts18288
01-20-2007, 10:33 AM
Isn't this kind of an inherent contradiction? If Vinatieri gets his revenge, his team won't lose. I'm confused.The word "too" would insinuate that the poster has mixed feelings on the game. I know...The english language.......Confusiong huh:stirpot:

The Dream
01-20-2007, 10:37 AM
Patriots = overrated....they'll lose tomorrow, because they're not as good as they were in years past....S.D. should've blown them out, because they were the better team, but stupid mistakes cost them the game........I'm tired of hearing about them and how Brady lead them to victory when in reality he blew horse testicles last week......Pats will lose tomorrow, because God told me so.

tulexan
01-20-2007, 10:42 AM
if you are going to crown them, crown them. They are who we thought they were.

Chargers let them off the hook.

Kaiser Toro
01-20-2007, 10:46 AM
Colts are takinig it this year.

mike moffat
01-20-2007, 12:03 PM
I've said it for years....The Patriots play "money" ball. They have always found a way to win at the time that it is most important.
With that being said.. I'm picking the Colts to go to the superbowl. Maybe it's wishful thinking for Manning. But, I'm tired of the hearing how bad he is. Shoot, we should be so lucky.
The last two weeks of playoffs have been really good games. This weekend should be as well. I would love to see a Colt / Saints superbowl.

The Dream
01-20-2007, 12:09 PM
I would love to see a Colt / Saints superbowl.


don't say that.........it's bad luck.....we never get to see the superbowl that we want to see......I want a chicago/new england superbowl!!!!

aj.
01-20-2007, 12:48 PM
Personally, I'd like to see Chicago - Indy.

But never bet against Hoodie and the Brady fish.

WiiBrawler
01-20-2007, 12:57 PM
Didn't they lose to the Steelers at home last year ?

Yeah but they're 9-0 at home this year.

FILO_girl
01-20-2007, 05:57 PM
Every team I pulled for last weekend....lost.


Team I picked to win it all...out. (Chargers)

Not sure if I should publicly back my new choices (aj picked similar) or back those I don't want to see go on (see if that reverse psychology stuff really works). :secret:

I am like Work's Most Hated because I refuse to pull for the Saints. I am sure that Romo pic I have posted on my window isn't helping win the love of my Cowpie worshipping co-workers, but I have sure gotten told some crap because I won't conform. :shades:

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 12:58 AM
The teams I root for rarely win.

Geaux Saints-Pats!

swtbound07
01-21-2007, 02:29 AM
I have money on the patriots and bears. Whom i wish to win is an entirely different issue.

awtysst
01-21-2007, 11:54 AM
I am cheering for a Bear-COlts Superbowl. If that happens, I am a winner in eother situation. If the bears win: great I like the bears, they are my adopted NFC team. If the Colts win, great, I can say the Texans beat the Colts in their Superbowl winning season!

TwinSisters
01-21-2007, 12:01 PM
I am hoping the Colts win just to up the market value of their roster. Maybe some of the other teams will tear away more of the critical players on their defense.

Something like that Chris Hope move did to the Steelers

mike moffat
01-21-2007, 12:02 PM
don't say that.........it's bad luck.....we never get to see the superbowl that we want to see......I want a chicago/new england superbowl!!!!

You're absolutely right Dream. I remove that last remark. (But inside, I hope that it comes to pass)

SheTexan
01-21-2007, 12:18 PM
BEARS/COLTS!!! Bears get the ring! Don't really care as long as it's NOT the Saints!!

Red_Zone
01-21-2007, 12:25 PM
Patriots = overrated....they'll lose tomorrow, because they're not as good as they were in years past....S.D. should've blown them out, because they were the better team, but stupid mistakes cost them the game........I'm tired of hearing about them and how Brady lead them to victory when in reality he blew horse testicles last week......Pats will lose tomorrow, because God told me so.

Finally I found a topic dream and I can agree on! :marionaner:

ATX
01-21-2007, 01:57 PM
Finally I found a topic dream and I can agree on! :marionaner:

Well hell has surely frozen over RZ. But in all seriousness, nice to see you in the NFL forum, we'll get you to the Bullpen one of these days.

Texan_Aggie222
01-21-2007, 02:05 PM
It only makes since that the Colts would finally reach the Superbowl and win it the year we finally beat them.

I'm taking the Bears and the Colts to play in Miami.

Red_Zone
01-21-2007, 03:02 PM
Saints vs Colts in the Super Bowl....at least that's who I want to see get there at this point. Joe Horn is out.

Sounds Good to me Vinny! :thumbup:

Marcus
01-21-2007, 06:23 PM
Patriots = overrated....they'll lose tomorrow, because they're not as good as they were in years past....S.D. should've blown them out, because they were the better team, but stupid mistakes cost them the game........I'm tired of hearing about them and how Brady lead them to victory when in reality he blew horse testicles last week......Pats will lose tomorrow, because God told me so.

Cut and pasted for future reference.

Mr teX
01-21-2007, 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dream
Patriots = overrated....they'll lose tomorrow, because they're not as good as they were in years past....S.D. should've blown them out, because they were the better team, but stupid mistakes cost them the game........I'm tired of hearing about them and how Brady lead them to victory when in reality he blew horse testicles last week......Pats will lose tomorrow, because God told me so.


Yeah that is pretty bold. Of course when you're speaking with god, nothing should be of surprise.:phone:

Texan_Aggie222
01-21-2007, 10:42 PM
It only makes since that the Colts would finally reach the Superbowl and win it the year we finally beat them.

I'm taking the Bears and the Colts to play in Miami.


Man, I wish I would have made those picks in Vegas.