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GuerillaBlack
01-14-2007, 09:01 PM
Saints win this one.

Mr. B
01-14-2007, 09:10 PM
Well if they win I am gonna try real hard to get a ticket to the Superbowl.

I told the wife Its been 40 years and may never come again so I gotta be there.

Probably never find one affordable enough though.

Man I hope they crush the bears.

B

GuerillaBlack
01-14-2007, 11:00 PM
Imma name my son Deuce.

TEXANS84
01-14-2007, 11:13 PM
Its all about da Bears, time for a 2007 version of the superbowl shuffle.

powerfuldragon
01-14-2007, 11:31 PM
Go Bears.

mexican_texan
01-14-2007, 11:35 PM
Let's see how the Saints play in Chicago...the weather, I'm sure, will be great. By great I mean freezing and raining.

shinerbock_girl
01-14-2007, 11:40 PM
Go Bears.

bad boy :deadhorse

shinerbock_girl
01-15-2007, 01:18 AM
I'm pulling for the Bears because I live in East Texas and that is where Lovie Smith is from(Big Sandy). I live in Lindale it's about 30 min. from Big Sandy. His sister works at my job and she talks to me about how he is doing. It's pretty cool, so I would like to see them make it.

WOW, how kool working with his sister

nunusguy
01-15-2007, 08:58 AM
New Orleans
12 a.m. at Chicago
Favorite CHI CHI CHI
Point spread -3 -3 -2
Total 43o/u 43o/u 43o/u
Total money line -110 -110 -110

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Early line has the Bears favored by 2 1/2 - 3 points with 43 O/U, 'bout what
we'd expect.
Weather in Chitown on gametown will be the wild card for sure.

edo783
01-15-2007, 11:32 AM
At three points, it is pretty much a toss up as the home team usually gets 3 just for being the home team.

Double Barrel
01-15-2007, 11:50 AM
Go Saints! It should be a great game.

TexanFan881
01-15-2007, 12:02 PM
Bears! Bears! Bears! :redtowel: Kill the Saints! :redtowel:

SheTexan
01-15-2007, 05:17 PM
GO BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!! Crush the Saints!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr. B
01-15-2007, 08:27 PM
Saints to the Superbowl !!!!!!

What a party it will be as the Superbowl may never see anything like it before or again :yahoo:

B

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 03:05 PM
Game on!

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 03:09 PM
Defense is starting to get in its groove...

SACK!

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 03:10 PM
Brees Sacked! 4th down.

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 03:17 PM
bears drive =

1st down - inc. pass
2nd - jones 5 run
3rd - inc pass, grossman was pressured on a CB Blitz, avoided the sack but just threw it away.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 03:32 PM
I missed the first 6 minutes, because of b-ball.....dumb ass fumble.

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 03:33 PM
Darn, everytime the Saints start making plays and get going a fumble or something crazy happens.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 03:38 PM
here it goes on the 4th down.........

The Dream
01-21-2007, 03:39 PM
Rex should've had a penalty....

edit

then makes a bum ass throw

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 03:40 PM
Rex should've had a penalty....

edit

then makes a bum ass throw

OK, so they explained it isn't a penalty..but Grossman still flubs it.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 03:42 PM
he was down

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 03:43 PM
The Saints need some gloves.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 03:43 PM
not even close.....

Red_Zone
01-21-2007, 03:44 PM
He was down before the ball came out, the call on the field should be overturned. Saints Ball.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 03:44 PM
well the saints are starting to turn into the aints.......fumbling the game away

ledzeppelin229
01-21-2007, 03:45 PM
I agree his knee was down before the ball was out...but it was starting to shift a little so I don't know how theyll call it.

Edit: Ruling on the field stands...BS call.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 03:45 PM
bad call....he had the ball in his chest....

Red_Zone
01-21-2007, 03:45 PM
Thats bull! the call that is.

gg no re
01-21-2007, 03:46 PM
I think in the replay system, all plays are replayed at full speed, not in slow motion.

Regardless, it was still a terrible call.

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 03:46 PM
It came loose before he was down, the call stands.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 03:47 PM
lol @ rex trying to snap it with 0 on the clock.

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 03:47 PM
Thats bull!

Already the worst bunch of cadaver for refs gets another call in a big game wrong. He still had it even before ti popped out. The fact is, they missed it the first time and had to discuss it. Get some full time guys in there instead of a bunch of part time car salesmen.

YellerLotYeller
01-21-2007, 03:47 PM
bad call....he had the ball in his chest....

Horrible call, even you could see it on your 4" TV.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 03:47 PM
there wasn't enough evidence to over turn the call on the field. If he was ruled down, that call would of probably been upheld to. The Saints put themselves in this position so the have nobody to blame except themselves.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 03:48 PM
It came loose before he was down, the call stands.


yes it did, but then he regained possesion, and he had it locked into his chest, I could tell he was down when the play originally happened....NFL refs = terrible, even with the replay.

Kaiser Toro
01-21-2007, 03:48 PM
It was close but not indisputable. Bears ball, nice.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 03:49 PM
Horrible call, even you could see it on your 4" TV.


it's 6 inches...lol

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 03:50 PM
The bears try to strip on every play. Its like they strip then tackle.

Red_Zone
01-21-2007, 03:50 PM
Already the worst bunch of cadaver for refs gets another call in a big game wrong. He still had it even before ti popped out. The fact is, they missed it the first time and had to discuss it. Get some full time guys in there instead of a bunch of part time car salesmen.

Agreed!

The Dream
01-21-2007, 03:51 PM
Bears aren't taking advantage of T.O......this might end up biting them in the ass at the end.

Red_Zone
01-21-2007, 03:52 PM
yes it did, but then he regained possesion, and he had it locked into his chest, I could tell he was down when the play originally happened....NFL refs = terrible, even with the replay.

As much as it pains me to say the words, Dream is right on this one, that's exactly the way I saw it.

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 03:53 PM
it's 6 inches...lol
Really now? http://www.realgm.com/boards/images/smiles/icon_ho.gif

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 03:54 PM
yes it did, but then he regained possesion, and he had it locked into his chest, I could tell he was down when the play originally happened....NFL refs = terrible, even with the replay.
Wouldn't that mean he fumbled the ball and then could not recover it?

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 03:54 PM
What the hell is wrong with Benson, that guy was a beast at Texas, now he can't even pick up short yardage situations and really hasn't done anything in the NFL.

Benson at the position he was drafted = Bust.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 03:55 PM
Wouldn't that mean he fumbled the ball and then could not recover it?

but he did recover......another bad call...

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 03:58 PM
The Bears are really taking advantage of the field conditions...

...and I still think that was a fumble.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 04:00 PM
but he did recover......another bad call...

In the end the Saints put themselves in that position. When refs look for fumbles, they look for ball movement. As soon as the ref saw the ball move he couldn't overturn the call on the field.

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 04:01 PM
He never fully lost possession. The started to strip it and he kept it locked to his body. It should have been whistled to start. It was a b.s call and call that replay is supposed to easily clear up. Unless the ball was loose and "out" before he hit, then he got it dead wrong. I got no dog here, I just hate shoddy officiating and the last few years in the playoffs has been a travesty.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 04:02 PM
maybe I spoke too soon about Benson :bubble:

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:04 PM
I don't want the Bears to win, because Rex will screw up in the S.B......he's played bad today.....Saints D stepping up

edo783
01-21-2007, 04:04 PM
Looks like Bad Rex showed up today.

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 04:04 PM
Benson has played alot more the last 3 weeks and has looked pretty tough and quicker than he has in the past. I still think T. Jones is more a leader for them though.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 04:04 PM
He never fully lost possession. The started to strip it and he kept it locked to his body. It should have been whistled to start. It was a b.s call and call that replay is supposed to easily clear up. Unless the ball was loose and "out" before he hit, then he got it dead wrong. I got no dog here, I just hate shoddy officiating and the last few years in the playoffs has been a travesty.

I agree with you there, the NFL cerainly has some of the worst officials. The speed of the game has changed and at times it doesn't seen the refs can keep up. I still won't except the Steelers as the superbowl champs, the Saints got robbed.

Does anybody remember the B.S. call on Matt Hasselbeck, for the life of me I can't remember it.

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 04:05 PM
Looks like Bad Rex showed up today.


Yeah he is high, behind...off.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 04:06 PM
If the Bears and the Colts win, Manning is going to have a Superbowl ring................go Pats and Saints.

TXGRL
01-21-2007, 04:07 PM
Yeah he is high, behind...off.

He is so unpredictable....and to me, lacks leadership qualities.

TXGRL
01-21-2007, 04:08 PM
If the Bears and the Colts win, Manning is going to have a Superbowl ring................go Pats and Saints.

Yeah, but what about a Saints-Colts Superbowl...I like the sound of that.

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 04:08 PM
Ok...upon further review...that was a fumble...but not enough evidence to overturn the call.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 04:12 PM
That was a Chad Stanley Punt.........actually worse. What the hell are the Saints doing, just giving the game away.

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 04:16 PM
If the Bears and the Colts win, Manning is going to have a Superbowl ring................go Pats and Saints.

I agree with you and I would rather see Saints and Pats dynasty stories than see Manning for 2 weeks of hype.

This is why I never unsersatnd taking Jones out. I know Benson has a had a few good weeks but Jones is their tough leader.

edo783
01-21-2007, 04:18 PM
Run game starting grind it for Chicago.

Wolf
01-21-2007, 04:19 PM
irritates me.. we could have had a shot at Thomas Jones when arizona let him go, yet we kept the backs we had in 2003 or 2002 (whatever that was)
no rumors on us trying..

irks me

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 04:20 PM
Its funny how the Bears try to allow Benson to win the starting job, they invested a #1 pick in him and I'm sure want him too, but Thomas Jones simply won't allow it.

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 04:21 PM
Well, I guess it is time to start looking forward to the late game.

aj.
01-21-2007, 04:21 PM
If this holds, there is hope for Texans fans .... in the proof that you can go to the Super Bowl with a pretty bad QB who wears #8.

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 04:22 PM
TD BEARS! Jones 2 run.

16-0 Bears.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 04:22 PM
If the Saints don't put up any kind of points with a 2 minute drive this game is over.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:22 PM
I don't want the Bears to win, because they'll lose in a couple of weeks....

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:22 PM
If this holds, there is hope for Texans fans .... in the proof that you can go to the Super Bowl with a pretty bad QB who wears #8.

lol...that's pretty good.....

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 04:25 PM
Lmao @ brees...hahahaha...flicked it to Alex brown who wasnt in the game...but nice passes on the last two plays.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:26 PM
come on Saints, let's get a TD.

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 04:26 PM
Come on Saints, score and make it a game. Nice catch by Colston.

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 04:28 PM
This is an UGLY game...

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:29 PM
Come On Breese!!!!!

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 04:29 PM
HUGE 3rd down folks.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:29 PM
Yes...big first down....Saints NEED a TD.

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 04:30 PM
Yep, but we need a TD here...

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:30 PM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAH.....Saints are in good shape folks....

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 04:30 PM
Bingo!

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 04:31 PM
YES..TD..that is some momentun for half. I'd almost do some off and on hurry up in the second half.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 04:31 PM
Colston is a Beast..........and to think we took a WR in front of him

How the hell did that guy slip to the 7th round.

TexansLucky13
01-21-2007, 04:31 PM
Damn

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 04:31 PM
TD Saints!, Colston 13 pass from Brees

16-7 Bears

edo783
01-21-2007, 04:31 PM
On target throw for a change. Neither QB is hiting them.

Red_Zone
01-21-2007, 04:31 PM
Yes! Touchdown Saints!

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:33 PM
Colston = the saints best rookie....

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:34 PM
HAHAHA.....So Rex tries to snap it with 0, and walks off the field when there's still time to play....Rex will lose this game for Chicago....

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 04:34 PM
What in the world...lol...

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 04:36 PM
HAHAHA.....So Rex tries to snap it with 0, and walks off the field when there's still time to play....Rex will lose this game for Chicago....

He didn't study his playbook again and is just looking forward to the SB parties.:drunk:

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:43 PM
Saints are in good shape for as bad as they played....Rex Grossman will lose this game for Chicago...he's been horrible today...bad throws, trying to snap the ball with triple 0's on the clock, walking off the field early, calling timeouts when he can't....there's no way Chicago's winning a title with this guy as their QB.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 04:46 PM
The Saints haven't played any better. If the Saints continue to turn the ball over, the Bears will skate to a victory. The still have a uphill battle against that D.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:47 PM
They can score on that Bears D......

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:51 PM
Rex = a turnover on downs on 3rd and long situations.

SheTexan
01-21-2007, 04:52 PM
I just hate it when the refs call a crappy game!!:tease:

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 04:55 PM
They need to get Deuce some carries...

gg no re
01-21-2007, 04:55 PM
wooosh

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:56 PM
Reggie > Mario

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 04:56 PM
Glad we didn't draft him...

Red_Zone
01-21-2007, 04:56 PM
WAHOOOOOOOOOOO!

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 04:56 PM
Bush baby!!!Dang that is awesome!

GAMEBRAKER!

TexansLucky13
01-21-2007, 04:56 PM
Oh man I wish we had him.....

NOT

NederlandTexan
01-21-2007, 04:56 PM
Superman scores!

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
01-21-2007, 04:57 PM
That was nice.

TXGRL
01-21-2007, 04:57 PM
Go Reggie!!!! Tear it Up! Go Saints!!!

stingray
01-21-2007, 04:57 PM
To all the Bush Haters... NANANANANA!!!!!!!!!!!

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:57 PM
And that ladies and gentlemen is why Bush > Mario...he's going to make that big play sooner or later.

RTP2110
01-21-2007, 04:57 PM
Bush baby!!!Dang that is awesome!

GAMEBRAKER!


Yea, we passed on that guy for a DE, and now we're talking about taking a DE 1st round agin this year. Yay!

MrMeToo
01-21-2007, 04:57 PM
Reggie > Mario

Yup.Reggie Bush TD:redtowel:

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 04:58 PM
Imagine all the dump off he would get here........

I still am glad we didn't take him however, because I think he is a reciever, I don't like the way he runs.

I'm more upset for passing on Young.

Young>Bush+Mario

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 04:58 PM
Yea, we passed on that guy for a DE, and now we're talking about taking a DE 1st round agin this year. Yay!

Exactly. Please raise ticket prices so we can see the most overpriced defensive line in the league!

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 04:58 PM
And that ladies and gentlemen is why Bush > Mario...he's going to make that big play sooner or later.

I won't get into the draft analysis but that is exactly why I'm not sure why people get mad at the Bush talk. That is what a guy used properly can do to defenses. Now they will always be looking for him.

stingray
01-21-2007, 04:59 PM
Imagine all the dump off he would get here........

I still am glad we didn't take him however, because I think he is a reciever, I don't like the way he runs.

So you don't like how he runs those 88 yard td's......

OzzO
01-21-2007, 04:59 PM
from VY's strap to RB's. Did it hurt when you swung over?


edit- okay, when SOME of you swung over?

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 04:59 PM
Yea, we passed on that guy for a DE, and now we're talking about taking a DE 1st round agin this year. Yay!

That makes me shake my head. Especially hearing that we need playmakers after last years group of playmakers.

Dr. Toro
01-21-2007, 05:00 PM
That was a beastly play... I'm not sure Bush's the ultimate tonic for a bad team that needs a running back and has a horrible D (us)... but he certainly is great for New Orleans.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:00 PM
Grossman is a joke....here comes another punt....

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:01 PM
yet another bad throw from Rex....hahahaha, they're about to lose this....

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:02 PM
So you don't like how he runs those 88 yard td's......

At the money he gets paid, he should be a work horse, He makes a big play like every 4 games..............we get that out of a healthy Mathis.........so no

I pass on Reggie

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:02 PM
That was a beastly play... I'm not sure Bush's the ultimate tonic for a bad team that needs a running back and has a horrible D (us)... but he certainly is great for New Orleans.


The Saints had a good running back and a bad defense last year...and they were still smart enough to draft him.

stingray
01-21-2007, 05:02 PM
yet another bad throw from Rex....hahahaha, they're about to lose this....

Don't count your rexi's before they hatch..

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:03 PM
from VY's strap to RB's. Did it hurt when you swung over

what?....I still say "take Vince" in my sleep....BUT I think we all can agree (at least those of us who know football) Bush > Mario.

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 05:03 PM
Bears are in more trouble than The Dream is for trying to steal my woman.

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:03 PM
At the money he gets paid, he should be a work horse, He makes a big play like every 4 games..............we get that out of a healthy Mathis.........so no

I pass on Reggie


Yeah, the overwhelming presence of MW was certainly worth the cash we paid...nice argument.

stingray
01-21-2007, 05:03 PM
At the money he gets paid, he should be a work horse, He makes a big play like every 4 games..............we get that out of a healthy Mathis.........so no

I pass on Reggie

Comparing mathis to reggie... Typical....

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:03 PM
Bears are in more trouble than The Dream is for trying to steal my woman.



Right now it's out of Alicia, Gabby, YaYa, Mya, and Brooke Valentine.

Dr. Toro
01-21-2007, 05:04 PM
Grossman is a joke....here comes another punt....

Yes, this is the worst QB play I've seen in a while. He's not stepping into throws, afraid to make tough throws, mentally not there, only looking for the deep ball over the middle, can't improvise anything. He is worse than Dilfer, and the AFC is winning the Super Bowl. He won't be back next year. They should bring in Griese right now.

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:04 PM
Cram the ball down their throats! Deuce...

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:06 PM
Breese = a real QB...did you see how he stepped up to avoid that sack...Carr would've been on his ass.

RTP2110
01-21-2007, 05:07 PM
Breese = a real QB...did you see how he stepped up to avoid that sack...Carr would've been on his ass.

....and fumbled.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:07 PM
Deuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!! !!!

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:07 PM
Breese = a real QB...did you see how he stepped up to avoid that sack...Carr would've been on his ass.


Do you realize that we could have dropped Carr, picked up Breese and drafted Bush ourselves???

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:07 PM
Comparing mathis to reggie... Typical....

Why Mathis doesn't make game changing plays.........hows it Typical, maybe its typical, because it makes sense.

Both have speed, Both poke their heads every once in a while. Bush makes big plays every once in a while, so does Mathis.

Bush isn't even the third best player at his own position in his own draft, he isn't even the best RB on his team, yet people want to elect him in the HOF...........Typical

OzzO
01-21-2007, 05:07 PM
what?....I still say "take Vince" in my sleep....BUT I think we all can agree (at least those of us who know football) Bush > Mario.

guess I don't know football then.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:07 PM
....and fumbled.

LOL, oh yeah I forgot

Saints got their Mojo working

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:08 PM
Do you realize that we could have dropped Carr, picked up Breese and drafted Bush ourselves???

this hurts......

gg no re
01-21-2007, 05:08 PM
I'm calling this game over if the Saints score.

edo783
01-21-2007, 05:09 PM
Big MO is shifting to NO.

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:09 PM
I am anxious to see what Grossman does if the Saints take the lead. This could be fun...

RTP2110
01-21-2007, 05:10 PM
I'm calling this game over if the Saints score.

Yup yup. No way the Bears are winning if they have to depend on Grossman to get it done.

Dr. Toro
01-21-2007, 05:10 PM
this hurts......

How about Young in the 1st, Jones-Drew in the 2nd.

gg no re
01-21-2007, 05:11 PM
Wow!

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 05:11 PM
No Good...I saw that coming.

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:11 PM
That momentum shift sure did help out N.O....

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:11 PM
How about Young in the 1st, Jones-Drew in the 2nd.

Another painful thought. Well, at least we have one of the best defensive linemen in the league...or not.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:12 PM
How about Young in the 1st, Jones-Drew in the 2nd.

How about just Young in the 1st and DeMeco Ryans in the second, nobody in the round is better than him, including Jones-Drew

stingray
01-21-2007, 05:12 PM
Why Mathis doesn't make game changing plays.........hows it Typical, maybe its typical, because it makes sense.

Both have speed, Both poke their heads every once in a while. Bush makes big plays every once in a while, so does Mathis.

Bush isn't even the third best player at his own position in his own draft, he isn't even the best RB on his team, yet people want to elect him in the HOF...........Typical


It's such a ridiculous argument that i'm not even gonna touch it.. Keep convincing yourself that Bush is overrated. Almost every expert agrees that he's gonna be a great player but you know more than them. Your the the real expert here..

imatexan
01-21-2007, 05:12 PM
go Saints!

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:12 PM
what?....I still say "take Vince" in my sleep....BUT I think we all can agree (at least those of us who know football) Bush > Mario.
I know nothing about football then.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:18 PM
It's such a ridiculous argument that i'm not even gonna touch it.. Keep convincing yourself that Bush is overrated. Almost every expert agrees that he's gonna be a great player but you know more than them. Your the the real expert here..

SSSOOOOOOOO, basically your argument is, that you have no argument, because you haven't said anything that says RB isn't even the third best RB in his draft or on his team.

And I never claimed to be "the real expert here", but I am able to form my own opinion and could really care less what crappy LA media or ESPN morons like Skip Brainless have to say.

Bush will never be a work horse back, when you take a back #1 and pay him 50 million dollars, you do so to draft a work horse type back. I would take MJD and J. Addai over the great and powerful Reggie Bush.

gg no re
01-21-2007, 05:18 PM
A break for da Bears

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 05:19 PM
Safety! Poor decision by Brees.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:19 PM
dumb play

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:19 PM
SSSOOOOOOOO, basically your argument is, that you have no argument, because you haven't said anything that says RB isn't even the third best RB in his draft or on his team.

And I never claimed to be "the real expert here", but I am able to form my own opinion and could really care less what crappy LA media or ESPN morons like Skip Brainless have to say.

Bush will never be a work horse back, when you take a back #1 and pay him 50 million dollars, you do so to draft a work horse type back. I would take MJD and J. Addai over the great and powerful Reggie Bush.

And I would take about three other defensive lineman over MW...

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:19 PM
SSSOOOOOOOO, basically your argument is, that you have no argument, because you haven't said anything that says RB isn't even the third best RB in his draft or on his team.

And I never claimed to be "the real expert here", but I am able to form my own opinion and could really care less what crappy LA media or ESPN morons like Skip Brainless have to say.

Bush will never be a work horse back, when you take a back #1 and pay him 50 million dollars, you do so to draft a work horse type back. I would take MJD and J. Addai over the great and powerful Reggie Bush.
Bush is a great weapon. Ignore everything else.

Safety!

gg no re
01-21-2007, 05:19 PM
And what's with everyone talking football politics?

Some people are trying to watch a football game here!

shinerbock_girl
01-21-2007, 05:20 PM
Damn, poor Brees...

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:20 PM
Bears will still lose this game....because they've got Rex.

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:21 PM
Come on Rex, give us an INT!

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:22 PM
here comes the punt...I mean 3rd down...

shinerbock_girl
01-21-2007, 05:22 PM
Saints defense really clicking...

edo783
01-21-2007, 05:22 PM
Pretty much a safety any way Breez goes. No one to throw to and no where to run, sack=2pts , throw away = 2pts. Not much that could have been done.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:23 PM
Simple formula to beating Chitown......don't turn the ball over, make Rex throw on 3rd and long situations.

Dr. Toro
01-21-2007, 05:23 PM
here comes the punt...I mean 3rd down...

Griese, Griese, Griese... I'll take the neck-bearded one before Rex.

He's done after this game, win or lose.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:23 PM
Bush is a great weapon. Ignore everything else.

Safety!

Devin Hester is a great weapon, what round was he taken in.........thats my point. With the #1 ovrl. pick Bush is OVERRATED. He doesn't make enough impact. V. Young with the #1 ovrl pick = great pick.

The Saints would still be in the NFC Championship.......without Bush.

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:23 PM
Can someone tell me why Ron Turner was being interviewed for head coaching positions?

Dr. Toro
01-21-2007, 05:24 PM
Devin Hester is a great weapon, what round was he taken in.........thats my point. With the #1 ovrl. pick Bush is OVERRATED. He doesn't make enough impact. V. Young with the #1 ovrl pick = great pick.

The Saints would still be in the NFC Championship.......without Bush.

I disagree he's perfect for them and worth the money. I'm not sure he's perfect to build around though... he's not Walter Payton.

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:24 PM
Devin Hester is a great weapon, what round was he taken in.........thats my point. With the #1 ovrl. pick Bush is OVERRATED. He doesn't make enough impact. V. Young with the #1 ovrl pick = great pick.

The Saints would still be in the NFC Championship.......without Bush.

Son,

What players are you watching??? You need to get off of PlayStation and watch the real games...

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:24 PM
come on saints don't let these bums beat u...

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:24 PM
Billy Miller sighting

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:25 PM
Devin Hester is a great weapon, what round was he taken in.........thats my point. With the #1 ovrl. pick Bush is OVERRATED. He doesn't make enough impact. V. Young with the #1 ovrl pick = great pick.

The Saints would still be in the NFC Championship.......without Bush.
Devin Hester is a great returner, not weapon, and I believe he went in the 2nd. Bush has made plenty of impact plays that have gotten the Saints to the NFC Championship.

shinerbock_girl
01-21-2007, 05:26 PM
Good to see Miller doing good...I miss him...

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 05:26 PM
That snow is gettin heavier and heavier every second.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:26 PM
here comes another punt...........I'm talking about the Bears.....

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:27 PM
Come on guys, need to put the game on Grossman's shoulders.

gg no re
01-21-2007, 05:27 PM
Rex Grossman would make for a great drinking game.

RTP2110
01-21-2007, 05:27 PM
Good to see Miller doing good...I miss him...

LoL, we could see a Billy Miller vs. Jabbar Gaffney matchup in the Super Bowl.

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:28 PM
Rex Grossman would make for a great drinking game.

If I were a Bears fan watching this game, it would already be one.

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 05:28 PM
moooooooooooose! nice pitch and catch.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:29 PM
Son,

What players are you watching??? You need to get off of PlayStation and watch the real games...

First off I'm not your Son

Second I am watching real games. I just have a different philosphy, I don't believe in taking a RB with the #1 ovrl. pick........period.

MJD 2nd round
J. Addai bottom of first

Both better and a hellava lot cheaper.

Bush is a great weopon no doubt, at the #1 pick I don't want him........period.

The Texans should of took V. Young...

All of this won't even matter because the Texans will probably be in position to take A.P. or Lynch who will both probably be better than Bush.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:29 PM
4th quarter

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 05:29 PM
I don't get the false negativity towards Bush. I've seen the guy be the main focus of the offense..the Giants game and at other times share with Deuce. Deuce was broken down after alst season. You don't think any of his increased productivity isn't because Bush is giving him breathers and helping him prolong his career?The guy, whether people admit it or not, gets defenses attention and is a focus. He also returns kicks and, as we saw, catches in the slot or out of the backfield. He was a rookie and made a tremendous impact. People are fooling themselves if they don't think so. I don't care because I was a proponent of trading down instead of wasting it on a D-lineman at #1. But Bush will always be a threat. Either way, there were some explosive rookies out there that we passed on to make our pass rush better. Now we are doing it again..makes sense...lol

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:30 PM
First off I'm not your Son

Second I am watching real games. I just have a different philosphy, I don't believe in taking a RB with the #1 ovrl. pick........period.

MJD 2nd round
J. Addai bottom of first

Both better and a hellava lot cheaper.

Bush is a great weopon no doubt, at the #1 pick I don't want him........period.

The Texans should of took V. Young...

All of this won't even matter because the Texans will probably be in position to take A.P. or Lynch who will both probably be better than Bush.
Stop thinking of Bush as a RB.

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 05:31 PM
Rex Grossman would make for a great drinking game.

What? Take 8 shots and go outside and throw a football to see how inaccurate you can be?


"Yo man, let's play Rex Grossman!"

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:31 PM
A little sensitive???

Good for you and your "opinion." You are entitled to it...as incorrect as it is.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:32 PM
you have to put pressure on him...he can't throw under pressure....

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:32 PM
Need to start pressuring him - secondary cannot stay with these guys.

gg no re
01-21-2007, 05:32 PM
wowowowwowow!

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:32 PM
lucky play........that CB is trash...

Marcus
01-21-2007, 05:32 PM
LoL, we could see a Billy Miller vs. Jabbar Gaffney matchup in the Super Bowl.

Billy Miller vs. Jabbar Gaffney matchup??? . . . lol

You're hearing their names called every once in awhile because of Drew Brees and Tom Brady. Keep it in perspective.

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:32 PM
TD! Up by 11

edo783
01-21-2007, 05:33 PM
DANG, ya believe that catch!

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 05:33 PM
you have to put pressure on him...he can't throw under pressure....

Yeah, I think he can...omg what a catch!

TD BEARS! Berrian 33 pass from Grossman

25-14 CHI

OzzO
01-21-2007, 05:33 PM
Da Bearzzzs

shinerbock_girl
01-21-2007, 05:34 PM
Holy Cow!!! What a catch...

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:34 PM
Rats. Thomas (CB) is horrible...I am sure Casserly would have traded a second rounder for him.

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 05:35 PM
Lovie put the ball in Rex's hands and he made plays...4/4 on that drive, not a single run.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:35 PM
Yeah, I think he can...omg what a catch!


a good CB would've picked that off....that was a bad throw, but fortunately the saints secondary stunk that play up....

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 05:35 PM
Here is what cracks me up..guy makes a great catch, isn't touched, rolls into the end zone.....no call, no call..gets touched and gets up and runs in and they call TD. Refs are morons.

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 05:36 PM
Rats. Thomas (CB) is horrible...I am sure Casserly would have traded a second rounder for him.

WRONG!

2 firsts.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:36 PM
Bush 6 rushing TDs...3.6 avg.........2 recieving TDs 8 yavg., splitting carries

MJD 13 rushing TDs....5.7 avg......2 recieving TDs, 9.5 yavg. splitting carries

and yet I get hosed for saying I don't want Reggie at #1, especially when we are in great position to draft a great back this year.

Oh my bad I forgot the Decoy factor.

silly me.

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 05:36 PM
Ogunleye smacked the taste outta Brees' mouth.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:37 PM
Saints should've snapped it quicker....

awtysst
01-21-2007, 05:38 PM
cmon bears!

OzzO
01-21-2007, 05:38 PM
Here is what cracks me up..guy makes a great catch, isn't touched, rolls into the end zone.....no call, no call..gets touched and gets up and runs in and they call TD. Refs are morons.

Looked like he was back up off his knees when he was tagged by a Saint.



.... that sounded kinda biblical.

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:39 PM
Bush 6 rushing TDs...3.6 avg.........2 recieving TDs 8 yavg., splitting carries

MJD 13 rushing TDs....5.7 avg......2 recieving TDs, 9.5 yavg. splitting carries

and yet I get hosed for saying I don't want Reggie at #1, especially when we are in great position to draft a great back this year.

Oh my bad I forgot the Decoy factor.

silly me.

I honestly don't know the answer to this question: who had a better qb passer rating this year - Carr or VY?

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:39 PM
Bush 6 rushing TDs...3.6 avg.........2 recieving TDs 8 yavg., splitting carries

MJD 13 rushing TDs....5.7 avg......2 recieving TDs, 9.5 yavg. splitting carries

and yet I get hosed for saying I don't want Reggie at #1, especially when we are in great position to draft a great back this year.

Oh my bad I forgot the Decoy factor.

silly me.
Stop thinking of Bush as a RB. He's a playmaker at any skill position on offense.

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:40 PM
Here is what cracks me up..guy makes a great catch, isn't touched, rolls into the end zone.....no call, no call..gets touched and gets up and runs in and they call TD. Refs are morons.
He scored before he got back up.

stingray
01-21-2007, 05:40 PM
Bush 6 rushing TDs...3.6 avg.........2 recieving TDs 8 yavg., splitting carries

MJD 13 rushing TDs....5.7 avg......2 recieving TDs, 9.5 yavg. splitting carries

and yet I get hosed for saying I don't want Reggie at #1, especially when we are in great position to draft a great back this year.

Oh my bad I forgot the Decoy factor.

silly me.

AND what's your point.. Brady was just above average this year on stats. Keep convincing yourself..

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:40 PM
saints blew this game with turnovers....

gg no re
01-21-2007, 05:41 PM
Chicago should be able to put this game on ice now.

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 05:41 PM
Bush 6 rushing TDs...3.6 avg.........2 recieving TDs 8 yavg., splitting carries

MJD 13 rushing TDs....5.7 avg......2 recieving TDs, 9.5 yavg. splitting carries

and yet I get hosed for saying I don't want Reggie at #1, especially when we are in great position to draft a great back this year.

Oh my bad I forgot the Decoy factor.

silly me.

I don't think anyone is saying MJD isn't any good but to take away what Bush has done for the team is just wrong IMHO. Plus I'm not even sure how the carries were split on both those teams, etc. One guy plays with glass Fred Taylor. I just don't think people can accurately say he didn't do anything when I sat in the airport watching the Giants game and watched him grind out yards between the tackles and bounce carries, etc. again, he wasn't my draft choice either but I'm not thinking he is a third rate back.

houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:42 PM
Blitz on every play!

Mr teX
01-21-2007, 05:42 PM
You live by brees & you die by brees, he's killed them twice on critical plays. Nothing wrong with that, the guy had a great regular season. I was rooting for Chicago, i want to see lovie in the big boy.

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 05:42 PM
He scored before he got back up.

Ahem...that was my point. That is why I pointed out he rolled in without being touched. The fact that they stared at him, watched him get up and then run in before calling it is what made me laugh.

dat_boy_yec
01-21-2007, 05:42 PM
Go Bears!!!

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:43 PM
lol @ thomas being benched...

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:44 PM
is the NFL just not good nowadays.....how can a team with a QB this bad get to the superbowl?????

edo783
01-21-2007, 05:44 PM
Ahem...that was my point. That is why I pointed out he rolled in without being touched. The fact that they stared at him, watched him get up and then run in before calling it is what made me laugh.

Did the ball break the plane?

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 05:44 PM
Looked like he was back up off his knees when he was tagged by a Saint.



.... that sounded kinda biblical.

Maybe I should have clarified. I was making fun of the refs for not calling a TD when he rolled in to start.

gg no re
01-21-2007, 05:44 PM
is the NFL just not good nowadays.....how can a team with a QB this bad get to the superbowl?????
Defense, TOs and a decent run game.

Silver Oak
01-21-2007, 05:45 PM
I don't think anyone is saying MJD isn't any good but to take away what Bush has done for the team is just wrong IMHO. Plus I'm not even sure how the carries were split on both those teams, etc. One guy plays with glass Fred Taylor. I just don't think people can accurately say he didn't do anything when I sat in the airport watching the Giants game and watched him grind out yards between the tackles and bounce carries, etc.

Wasn't he dinged up during that Giants game when he had most of the carries? I seem to recall that he was questionable for the next week.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:45 PM
well.....................go colts.

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:45 PM
Ahem...that was my point. That is why I pointed out he rolled in without being touched. The fact that they stared at him, watched him get up and then run in before calling it is what made me laugh.
Ah, gotcha...my bad.

T.D. Benson! 31-14

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 05:45 PM
Did the ball break the plane?

It looked like, he, the ball, his feet and everything else was in the endzone. I was waiting for the signal when he got back up, ran out and went back in. Oh well, doesn't matter.

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:45 PM
is the NFL just not good nowadays.....how can a team with a QB this bad get to the superbowl?????
Are you beginning to understand why I like Mario yet?

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:46 PM
It looked like, he, the ball, his feet and everything else was in the endzone.


lol, yeah it was a TD that's why the saints gave up on the play....the refs are sooooo stupid some...I mean all of the time.

shinerbock_girl
01-21-2007, 05:46 PM
I think the Bears are going to be unstoppable at this point....I feel for the Saints, but i had a feeling they were going to have a hard time at Soldier field...I still had to stand by my original prediction the Bears and Pats for the Superbowl...

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 05:46 PM
Ah, gotcha...my bad.

T.D. Benson! 31-14

Sorry, my bad for not clarifying. I realize it sounded like I was calling homerism against the Saints:)

Game over. I think the Bears will get crushed against the Colts or Pats.

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 05:47 PM
Benson 12 run. 32-14 CHI

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:47 PM
Are you beginning to understand why I like Mario yet?


Mario = a average DE.......our D isn't as good as the bears, AND almost every superbowl champion has had a great QB running their offense....so no I still don't understand.

TXGRL
01-21-2007, 05:47 PM
is the NFL just not good nowadays.....how can a team with a QB this bad get to the superbowl?????

Repeat after me...Defense, Defense, Defense...plus some solid running.

Dr. Toro
01-21-2007, 05:47 PM
is the NFL just not good nowadays.....how can a team with a QB this bad get to the superbowl?????

It's a rare thing that requires an all time great defense... a la TB and B-more... to get to and/or win a SB without an excellent QB. Rex does throw a nice deep ball, which is just enough to keep him on the field. Having an excellnt tight end helps too, and Des Clark has been that this year (without acclaim).

the wonger need food
01-21-2007, 05:47 PM
Poor little downtrodden New Orleans. The dream is over. This is so sad.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:48 PM
I honestly don't know the answer to this question: who had a better qb passer rating this year - Carr or VY?


Lame.....

Passer rating are different from rushing stats, not all stats lie. Yall keep talking about big game changing plays

MJD

212 touches

12 20+ yard gains........1 40+ yard gain

"GOD"

243 touches, 30 more than MJD

5 20+ yard gains..............2 40+ yard gains.

Where the hell is reggie now, oh I forgot he made the one big play he'll make every couple of games and disapeared.

Mr teX
01-21-2007, 05:48 PM
Are you beginning to understand why I like Mario yet?

Good one, The NFL has always been about defense, even during dynasties. It's been known for a while you could do this, the media just chooses to focus on offense.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:48 PM
please folks......balance wins superbowls, not defense alone.

edo783
01-21-2007, 05:50 PM
A real good defense and a solid running game will get a team a long ways.

Mr teX
01-21-2007, 05:50 PM
please folks......balance wins superbowls, not defense alone.


Keep telling yourself that.

gg no re
01-21-2007, 05:50 PM
So much for dreams of a comeback.

shinerbock_girl
01-21-2007, 05:51 PM
Are you beginning to understand why I like Mario yet?

Well looks like you don't have to wear the Saints Avatar....lol...Unless the bears just stand aside and try to lose...Poor Elle, i know she heart broken...Would have been nice for New Orleans to win this one...

the wonger need food
01-21-2007, 05:51 PM
Mario = a average DE.......our D isn't as good as the bears, AND almost every superbowl champion has had a great QB running their offense....so no I still don't understand.

Yeah, Trent Dilfer, Ben Roethlisberger, Doug Williams... all great QB's.

You're just a hater. Don't New Orleans and Tennessee have message boards? All you do is rag Houston... why do you waste your (and our) time here?

Mr teX
01-21-2007, 05:51 PM
Vasher INT.......................GAME TIME!

edo783
01-21-2007, 05:51 PM
Turn out the lights the party's over. (in your best Dandy Don voice)

Marcus
01-21-2007, 05:51 PM
is the NFL just not good nowadays.....how can a team with a QB this bad get to the superbowl?????

LOL . . kinda dumps on your David Carr rant, doesn't it?

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:51 PM
please folks......balance wins superbowls, not defense alone.
The best defenses of the past few years, Ravens, Bucs, maybe Bears, have at least gotten to the Super Bowl. I'm just saying.

Oh, and calling Mario average is a bit premature. He just finished his rookie year.

gg no re
01-21-2007, 05:51 PM
As for what makes a winning team, reliability in all points of the game is the key.

stingray
01-21-2007, 05:51 PM
please folks......balance wins superbowls, not defense alone.

I agree.. Bears have a great defense but I think they are going to the superbowl cause the NFC is weak and they had Home field advantage. And also, most teams who have a great defense and an average offense usually just win the Super Bowl once. But the great teams, the great dynasties have had a great defense and a very good offense.