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mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 04:53 PM
Well looks like you don't have to wear the Saints Avatar....lol...Unless the bears just stand aside and try to lose...Poor Elle, i know she heart broken...Would have been nice for New Orleans to win this one...
I sent her a Rex avatar an hour ago...her Saints had a great run.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:53 PM
I agree.. Bears have a great defense but I think they are going to the superbowl cause the NFC is weak and they had Home field advantage. And also, most teams who have a great defense and an average offense usually just win the Super Bowl once. But the great teams, the great dynasties have had a great defense and a very good offense.

thank you.....oh well the Texans will suck again next year so I'll just rub it in then....

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 04:54 PM
Keep telling yourself that.

Ballance does beat great defense, I'll take a smart offense and defense over the bears. Thats why the Pats, Cowboys, or any other great team have won.

The Pats won 2 superbowls on offensive drives and the foot of their kicker

The Bears haven't won the superbowl yet.

The AFC is still the class of the league.

Mr teX
01-21-2007, 04:54 PM
I agree.. Bears have a great defense but I think they are going to the superbowl cause the NFC is weak and they had Home field advantage. And also, most teams who have a great defense and an average offense usually just win the Super Bowl once. But the great teams, the great dynasties have had a great defense and a very good offense.

Key phrase right there, he said most superbowl champions.

shinerbock_girl
01-21-2007, 04:57 PM
I sent her a Rex avatar an hour ago...her Saints had a great run.

AHHH...

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 04:57 PM
Good one, The NFL has always been about defense, even during dynasties. It's been known for a while you could do this, the media just chooses to focus on offense.

I completely disagree. From the 70s on, there has been some great defenses(Bears, Doomsday, Steel Curtain) but for the most part their has been balance and alot of skill players to go with functional defense. The Bears and Ravens are the only teams that really have done it with a great D and a functional O..maybe the Steelers. Look at the Cowboys, Packers, Broncos, 49ers, etc. With the exception of the Pats there has been some great offenses with good, solid defenses but not spectacular ones. The Steelers last year had a tough D. The Patriots have had some great D players but they had Troy Brown playing DB and hard working players. Their offense with Brady, Branch and their backs were their equal. I'll take balance any day of the week. Look what happened to the Ravens this year. One bad game ends the year. The NFC is weak this year. The reality is that most great Dynasties didn't just have a great D..they had a great TEAM. The Cowboys, 49ers and Packers showed that. I'm not taking away the playmakers they had on D, but the D didn't make their team.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 04:57 PM
Key phrase right there, he said most superbowl champions.

exactly MOST of them, the Ravens D was a "once in a lifetime" defense...the Texans still suck defensively....

Mr teX
01-21-2007, 04:59 PM
Ballance does beat great defense, I'll take a smart offense and defense over the bears. Thats why the Pats, Cowboys, or any other great team have won.

The Pats won 2 superbowls on offensive drives and the foot of their kicker

The Bears haven't won the superbowl yet.

The AFC is still the class of the league.

Nobody is saying that balance doesn't equal to dynasties, but defense Has to be present for a team to win the superbowl, But Offense doesn't nessasarily have to be potent to win the superbowl.

Oh, & your pats first superbowl was only made possible by that defense stopping "the greatest show on turf". The defense can score & stop the opposition at the same time. Offense is ineffective if they don't have the ball in their hands. That speaks volumes.

stingray
01-21-2007, 05:00 PM
I think the Saints defense needs some work.. That's really their only weakness..

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:02 PM
I think the Saints defense needs some work.. That's really their only weakness..

their secondary is iffy, but for the most part their D kept them in this game......turnovers killed them....

gg no re
01-21-2007, 05:04 PM
Thomas Jones does an impressive Reggie Bush imitation. :)

edo783
01-21-2007, 05:04 PM
Bears running away with it now.

Dr. Toro
01-21-2007, 05:05 PM
Keep telling yourself that.

Great QBs with good D's generally win SB's...

Winning SB QB's

2006- Roethlisberger
2005- Brady
2004- Brady
2003- Johnson (Pro Bowl)
2002- Brady
2001- Dilfer
2000- Warner (MVP)
1999- Elway
1998- Elway
1997- Favre
1996- Aikman
1995- Young
1994- Aikman
1993- Aikman
1992- Rypien (Pro Bowl)
1991- Simms (Pro Bowl) & Hostetler
1990- Montana
1989- Montana

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 05:05 PM
1st black coach to ever coach in a super bowl!!!! yessirrrrrr!

Mr teX
01-21-2007, 05:06 PM
I'm extremely happy for Lovie, This is a great day in football for African Americans in football.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:06 PM
1st black coach to ever coach in a super bowl!!!! yessirrrrrr!

lol...well I guess something good came out of this....I guess.....

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:06 PM
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houstonhurricane
01-21-2007, 05:06 PM
Bomb,

No, my point is that you can frame pure stats any way you like. If you can't handle that, then don't try to pretend you know what you are talking about.

VY is a great quarterback because of several things outside of his pure stats (i.e. leadership, LB's having to patrol his scrambling, etc.). You can say the same thing about RB...

Marcus
01-21-2007, 05:07 PM
I can hear the excuses right now. Here's how it will go.

Yeah, the turnovers killed us, but . . . we didn't do this either, or we didn't do this.

Can the yeah, buts. It was turnovers, and nothing but turnovers.

Buckle
01-21-2007, 05:07 PM
With a offseason dedicated to getting another WR, a good TE option and help on the defense, namely at DT, CB and LB the Saints will be even better next year. Those are the biggest holes I see them having. Wouldn't it be something if they could get a big name player like Clements or Briggs in FA??

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:08 PM
Nobody is saying that balance doesn't equal to dynasties, but defense Has to be present for a team to win the superbowl, But Offense doesn't nessasarily have to be potent to win the superbowl.

Oh, & your pats first superbowl was only made possible by that defense stopping "the greatest show on turf". The defense can score & stop the opposition at the same time. Offense is ineffective if they don't have the ball in their hands. That speaks volumes.

Key word "Smart"........The Pats aren't considered great at any position, except maybe QB, they are smart and balanced and I'll take a smart team over a great defense with a crappy QB any day of the week.

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:09 PM
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Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:10 PM
Oh no...........god got stuffed at the line. damn

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:11 PM
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Mr teX
01-21-2007, 05:11 PM
Great QBs with good D's generally win SB's...

Winning SB QB's

2006- Roethlisberger
2005- Brady
2004- Brady
2003- Johnson (Pro Bowl)
2002- Brady
2001- Dilfer
2000- Warner (MVP)
1999- Elway
1998- Elway
1997- Favre
1996- Aikman
1995- Young
1994- Aikman
1993- Aikman
1992- Rypien (Pro Bowl)
1991- Simms (Pro Bowl) & Hostetler
1990- Montana
1989- Montana


Wouldn't necessarily call them great, & besides how many good to great QB's have been shutdown by great defenses?

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:14 PM
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Dr. Toro
01-21-2007, 05:15 PM
Wouldn't necessarily call them great, & besides how many good to great QB's have been shutdown by great defenses?

Rypien was dominant the SB winning year, as was Warner, Johnson, Roethlisberger, and Simms in 1991. I'm not saying it takes a great QB performance to win the game, but it takes a QB having a great year to get there or win it. Those guys went to the Pro-Bowl the year they won it, with the exception of Roethlisberger (98.6 QB rating).

Dilfer's the only average QB to win it in 20 years, it's a pretty overwhelming trend. Hostetler managed the playoffs too, but was very good throwing 3 TDs and 0 INT in the playoffs in 1990.

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:15 PM
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Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:17 PM
Wouldn't necessarily call them great, & besides how many good to great QB's have been shutdown by great defenses?

They aren't great but solid. They don't turn the ball over or put their teams in a bad position.

SmoochyTX
01-21-2007, 05:17 PM
WTG Bears! :elmo:

gg no re
01-21-2007, 05:18 PM
Congratulations to the Bears for becoming the 2006 NFC Champions.

This was a game that could have went either way until Billy Cundiff missed that FG that might've killed off the Bears.

Mr teX
01-21-2007, 05:21 PM
Key word "Smart"........The Pats aren't considered great at any position, except maybe QB, they are smart and balanced and I'll take a smart team over a great defense with a crappy QB any day of the week.


Really, none of the dynasty teams were considered "great" at most of their defensive positions either, In fact most good defensive units strive for cohesiveness which all but prevents more than 1-2 players standing out, so it's pretty much the same as offense. Just depends on the teams identity. The exception to that is the steelers of the 70's & maybe the 49ers of the 80's.

Furthermore, i wouldn't necessarily call Rex a crappy QB, just not of the caliber of Aikman, Montana etc.

The Dream
01-21-2007, 05:22 PM
Rypien was dominant the SB winning year, as was Warner, Johnson, Roethlisberger, and Simms in 1991. I'm not saying it takes a great QB performance to win the game, but it takes a QB having a great year to get there or win it. Those guys went to the Pro-Bowl the year they won it, with the exception of Roethlisberger (98.6 QB rating).

Dilfer's the only average QB to win it in 20 years, it's a pretty overwhelming trend. Hostetler managed the playoffs too, but was very good throwing 3 TDs and 0 INT in the playoffs in 1990.

exactly...I'll take my chances with the great QB....

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:26 PM
Bomb,

No, my point is that you can frame pure stats any way you like. If you can't handle that, then don't try to pretend you know what you are talking about.

VY is a great quarterback because of several things outside of his pure stats (i.e. leadership, LB's having to patrol his scrambling, etc.). You can say the same thing about RB...

noooooooo, my point is that instead of just saying a guy is the greatest thing since PB & J's, I actually put forth a argument, not just call people "Son" or say they don't know what they are talking about, without even putting together a rebuttal.

Bush is a good player.........not great.
MJD is better.
J. Addai is better.
V. Young is better and his leadership or strain on a defense isn't even comparable to Bush's

This isn't college, everybody runs fast and Reggie Bush isn't somebody that can put a team on his back and carry them. He is a exciting player that will make a big play every 3 or 4 weeks, but can't pick up 4th&1.................He's nice to have, but I don't want him at #1

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:26 PM
exactly...I'll take my chances with the great QB....
Petyon Manning, Archie Manning, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, and for many years, John Elway. All great QBs in their own right who never won a Super Bowl.

ThaShark316
01-21-2007, 05:27 PM
congrats to the 2006 nfc champion chicago bears!!! Bear fans..celebrate...Saint fans, great season and you guys should be proud of your team!

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:27 PM
noooooooo, my point is that instead of just saying a guy is the greatest thing since PB & J's, I actually put forth a argument, not just call people "Son" or say they don't know what they are talking about, without even putting together a rebuttal.

Bush is a good player.........not great.
MJD is better.
J. Addai is better.
V. Young is better and his leadership or strain on a defense isn't even comparable to Bush's

This isn't college, everybody runs fast and Reggie Bush isn't somebody that can put a team on his back and carry them. He is a exciting player that will make a big play every 3 or 4 weeks, but can't pick up 4th&1.................He's nice to have, but I don't want him at #1
I don't want Bush either, but he's a great playmaker.

Mr teX
01-21-2007, 05:28 PM
exactly...I'll take my chances with the great QB....

Agreed, but noone has answered my question, how many great Qb's have been shut down or at least slowed down enough by good to great defenses in the playoffs/superbowl?

I'll start the list off with Elway X 3 & marino X 1, Favre 1, Tarkenton X 4.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:32 PM
Really, none of the dynasty teams were considered "great" at most of their defensive positions either, In fact most good defensive units strive for cohesiveness which all but prevents more than 1-2 players standing out, so it's pretty much the same as offense. Just depends on the teams identity. The exception to that is the steelers of the 70's & maybe the 49ers of the 80's.

Furthermore, i wouldn't necessarily call Rex a crappy QB, just not of the caliber of Aikman, Montana etc.

When Rex is on, he's solid, when hes off he's god awful and worse than crappy.

I think we agree on defense, smart defenses win, but a Solid balance team has a smart solid offense, defense, and special teams.

a well coached balanced team with a great head coach, QB, offense, defense, and special teams, will beat a team with a great defense, that struggles everywhere else.

Showtime100
01-21-2007, 05:33 PM
Petyon Manning, Archie Manning, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, and for many years, John Elway. All great QBs in their own right who never won a Super Bowl.

Elway won 2 Super Bowls.

Mr teX
01-21-2007, 05:33 PM
When Rex is on, he's solid, when hes off he's god awful and worse than crappy.

I think we agree on defense, smart defenses win, but a Solid balance team has a smart solid offense, defense, and special teams.

a well coached balanced team with a great head coach, QB, offense, defense, and special teams, will beat a team with a great defense, that struggles everywhere else.


Well said.:ok:

mexican_texan
01-21-2007, 05:36 PM
Elway won 2 Super Bowls.
Which is why I said for many years.

Dr. Toro
01-21-2007, 05:39 PM
Agreed, but noone has answered my question, how many great Qb's have been shut down or at least slowed down enough by good to great defenses in the playoffs/superbowl?

I'll start the list off with Elway X 3 & marino X 1, Favre 1, Tarkenton X 4.

You're right... I concede that. They're both necessary, good/great D, great QB. The NFL regular season and playoffs are such a grinder you can't get by with weaknesses unless you've got one of the best units of all time. The Ravens D was good enough to win it all (Jamal Lewis helped) but the Rams offense (arguably best of all time) wasn't enough to get it done in 1999.

So what happens if the Colts play the Bears? If Tommie Harris were healthy, I'd take the Bears.

TexanFan881
01-21-2007, 05:41 PM
:redtowel: THAT WAS HUGE!!! :redtowel:

Go Bears! All the way baby!

And I love it even more because of my hate of the Saints!

awtysst
01-21-2007, 05:44 PM
Mario = a average DE.......our D isn't as good as the bears, AND almost every superbowl champion has had a great QB running their offense....so no I still don't understand.

I disagree. Mario was hurt for a fair amount if the year and in the begining he was still learning. He was on pace for a 9 sack season. 9 would have put him with the likes of Robert Mathis, Terrell Suggs, and Bart scott. These guys are not "average" anything. If Mario had a little help(like suggs, scott, and Mathis all have) he will do nothing but get better. Plus, you must also see what he was doing with a bad foot. He was still getting into the backfield and getting disruptive. I can't wait to see him compleltey healthy and hopefully with a threat on the other side!

Mr teX
01-21-2007, 05:44 PM
You're right... I concede that. They're both necessary, good/great D, great QB. The NFL regular season and playoffs are such a grinder you can't get by with weaknesses unless you've got one of the best units of all time. The Ravens D was good enough to win it all (Jamal Lewis helped) but the Rams offense (arguably best of all time) wasn't enough to get it done in 1999.

So what happens if the Colts play the Bears? If Tommie Harris were healthy, I'd take the Bears.


I just posted in the other thread that i don't know who will win. Should be a great game though if it were to be. With the way the Colts defense has been playing as of late, they could be primed to go all the way. Manning just has to shake his nemesis 1st. I agree though if Harris & Brown were healthy, i'd take the bears.

stingray
01-21-2007, 05:46 PM
[QUOTE=Carr Bomb;579069]noooooooo, my point is that instead of just saying a guy is the greatest thing since PB & J's, I actually put forth a argument, not just call people "Son" or say they don't know what they are talking about, without even putting together a rebuttal.

Bush is a good player.........not great.
MJD is better.
J. Addai is better.
V. Young is better and his leadership or strain on a defense isn't even comparable to Bush's

This isn't college, everybody runs fast and Reggie Bush isn't somebody that can put a team on his back and carry them. He is a exciting player that will make a big play every 3 or 4 weeks, but can't pick up 4th&1.................He's nice to have, but I don't want him at #1[/QUO

What are you arguing about? there is no player in historythat was a lock in the hall of fame in their rookie season. I'm not calling reggie great yet, but his chances are very good that he will be great. You want people to say that he is overrated and that he wasn't worth the 50 millions. He had a good season. He only averaged 3.6 a carry but he had 80 some receptions. You wanted him to run for 1000 yards and recieve for 1000 yards because he is paid that much money. There is more evidence that he will be great than he will be a bust.

And if the draft was held again, he still would be drafted ahead of Jones Drew and Addai, you just have to accept the fact.

LikeABoss
01-21-2007, 05:46 PM
:redtowel: THAT WAS HUGE!!! :redtowel:

Go Bears! All the way baby!

And I love it even more because of my hate of the Saints!

You should be proud:ok:

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 05:49 PM
Basically what we established is that balance wins championships and that a team with weak offenses and superior Ds are the exception, not the rule. It is rare for a team to win a SB without a weak QB. I hope the Pats win but I'll take the Colts to win big if they get the Bears.

Carr Bombed
01-21-2007, 05:56 PM
What are you arguing about? there is no player in historythat was a lock in the hall of fame in their rookie season. I'm not calling reggie great yet, but his chances are very good that he will be great. You want people to say that he is overrated and that he wasn't worth the 50 millions. He had a good season. He only averaged 3.6 a carry but he had 80 some receptions. You wanted him to run for 1000 yards and recieve for 1000 yards because he is paid that much money. There is more evidence that he will be great than he will be a bust.

And if the draft was held again, he still would be drafted ahead of Jones Drew and Addai, you just have to accept the fact.

I'm not arguing that Bush won't be a good player.........I'm saying at #1 I don't want him, I never want a RB at #1, especially in todays salary cap NFL, they are a dime a dozen.........period.

Yes Bush would be drafted ahead of MJD and Addai, but who is getting more bang for their buck, who is getting more production. Who is getting the better value..............not the Saints. Sorry, but if I draft a RB #1 he has to be a RB that can avg. atleast 4 ypc and pick up tough yards and be able to grind out the clock.

Sorry I don't want Reggie for 50+ million dollars at #1...........its just the way I feel.

TexanFan881
01-21-2007, 06:00 PM
You should be proud:ok:

Am I not allowed to hate the Saints?

And behind the Texans, I like the Bears because they are my hometown team.

Why should I not be proud? :rolleyes:

LikeABoss
01-21-2007, 06:03 PM
Am I not allowed to hate the Saints?



What exactly have the Saints done to you?:confused:

TexansLucky13
01-21-2007, 06:08 PM
Saints lose.... YAY!!

TexanFan881
01-21-2007, 06:36 PM
What exactly have the Saints done to you?:confused:

Nothing, I just don't like them. Plain and simple. I have to have a reason to not like the Saints now?

SheTexan
01-21-2007, 06:39 PM
Saints lose.... YAY!!

DITTO!!!!!:yes:

TexansLucky13
01-21-2007, 06:40 PM
Nothing, I just don't like them. Plain and simple. I have to have a reason to not like the Saints now?

He is trying to make you divulge some secret resentment for the Texans not taking Reggie Bush, but just like me, I don't think that is the case.

I just hate the Saints, plain and simple.

aj.
01-21-2007, 06:55 PM
The Saints haven't mattered in the NFL for 40 years, so for anyone - especially in Houston - to say they "hate" them today is a bit curious...

HoustonFrog
01-21-2007, 06:58 PM
I think the Saints made alot better game than the Bears. The Bears v AFC might get ugly if you ask me.

TexansLucky13
01-21-2007, 07:00 PM
The Saints haven't mattered in the NFL for 40 years, so for anyone - especially in Houston - to say they "hate" them today is a bit curious...

Go ahead and try to figure it any way you want, aj, if it makes you happy. Curiosity killed the cat, though. There isn't much to find in this matter other than the simple truth that I just despise that team. I can hate whoever I want.

aj.
01-21-2007, 07:04 PM
I just despise that team. .

Why?

TexansLucky13
01-21-2007, 07:09 PM
Why?

Not sure exactly, I have never liked them at all. I admit, the whole Reggie Bush debacle kinda sealed it, but it isn't just about him. Icing on the cake, maybe. The final straw?

aj.
01-21-2007, 07:52 PM
Go ahead and try to figure it any way you want, aj, if it makes you happy. .... I can hate whoever I want.

It doesn't make me happy, sad, or anything in-between. I made an observation that it was a bit curious for anyone to hate the Saints because they've been such a non-entity for so long. If anything, they've been America's favorites this post-season. It's probably more about Bush than you're willing to admit but feel free to hate on whoever you want...

HoustonFan
01-21-2007, 08:20 PM
Saints had a great season. Sad that it had to end like this. I hope that they continued to play the way they did this past season. Good for New Orleans.

Congrats to da Bears, and Lovie Smith!!! How about Rex Grossman?! Talk about a coach believing in his QB. That's awesome. Rex played very well. Now if they can play .like they did today, they may have a chance to win in Miami. I still think whoevere wins for the AFC will win the whole thing.

HJam72
01-21-2007, 09:48 PM
I don't hate or even dislike the Saints, but I have been rooting against them all season and, yes, it is because of Bush. I don't have anything against Bush either and I do think he would've been worth a #1 pick, but him winning a SB ring in his rookie year would've made the Texans look that much worse.

Had I chosen our #1 draft pick, my choices would've looked like this:

#1 Young
#1a Bush
#3 either Williams or D. Ferguson (I wasn't sure).

Bush is not worth a #1 at all as a RB, but he is not just a RB. He is also probably the greatest slot receiver or receiver out of the backfield that there ever was.

We took Williams though, and because of that I will root against Young and Bush for as long as they are in the NFL. Nothing against them--I just hope they lose, because somebody has to anyway.

Ole Miss Texan
01-21-2007, 10:00 PM
The taunting by Bush at the end of his touchdown RECEPTION was uncalled for. it looked like he watched the east west shrine game last night...did a complete copy cat. The add on the jump and dance...

suprised with it being in chicago and all he didn't get flagged for taunting and/or excessive celebration? comments?

texasguy346
01-22-2007, 07:08 AM
The dancing and the jump into the endzone i'm alright with because he made a huge play. It alright to let your emotions get the best of you. Now pointing at the Bears defense, in particular, Urlacher who's the closest to Bush at the time was a dumb move. The Bears defense responded and shut down the Saints the rest of the game. Maybe the taunting added fuel to the fire or maybe it didn't, but the move was classless. To his credit he did apologize to his team though.

TEXANS84
01-22-2007, 08:21 AM
Da Bears!!

hobie
01-22-2007, 08:25 AM
Can we say a** whoppin!!

HJam72
01-22-2007, 03:13 PM
Not gonna lie...
I haven't read any of this thread except the last post, so I'm not sure where the conversation is at this point.

With that said, here's my take on the game yesterday:

Grossman did a decent job yesterday once he got over the nerves of "not losing the game for us" sort of mentality that he's been inevitably hearing this week.

The running game is showing some flashes of brilliance out there. The Saints have a much better looking run-d than the Colts do. If the Colts play next week like they did yesterday, then the Bears running game will BE BIG!!!

The MOST EXCITING THING that happened yesterday was...
THE MONSTERS OF THE MIDWAY FINALLY SHOWED UP TO PLAY FOOTBALL!!!!

SHUTTING DOWN the #1 Offense in the National Football League!
If those boys show up to play next week...there is a CERTAIN impending doom that will be all over Peyton Manning!

The Bears ARE FOR REAL!!!

As far as Bush's scene was concerned...it's not the first time that Urlacher has been taunted. I know that HE (Urlacher) isn't losing any sleep over it. But what's that old saying about paybacks??? Yeah you know. Reggie WILL get what's coming to him. And THAT is a guarantee. Guys don't forget stuff like that. Is it a big deal? Not really. But guys like Urlacher and THAT defense, don't forget stuff like that.

Go Bears!!!


You got all of that out of:


Da Bears!!!


???

:winky:

Bert
01-23-2007, 02:07 PM
Now Reggie can go dancing at the night clubs now. hahaha

GO BEARS!!!!!!!

GuerillaBlack
01-23-2007, 03:21 PM
I still don't know why Reggie Bush did that.