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jbh1970
01-02-2007, 07:23 PM
Just posted.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/01/02/bc.fbn.texans.wrapup.ap/index.html

GuerillaBlack
01-02-2007, 07:35 PM
"I think they're moving in the right direction," Carr said of the team. "I think we're going to win some football games here. I think they're going to eventually win a Super Bowl here. I'd like to be a part of that. And to think that I wouldn't be a part of that would be pretty depressing because I have a lot of good friends on this team."

I felt bad for him in that quote. but he did not play well enough this season and has to go.

Another decision this offseason for the Texans is what to do at running back if Domanick Davis is able to return from the knee injury that caused him to miss this season. The early struggles of the offense came when they were left without a proven running back after passing on Reggie Bush in the draft, only to lose Davis. Ron Dayne had the best stretch of his NFL career to end the season and wants to stay in Houston, but the team likely won't keep both him and Davis.

I think Dayne, Taylor, and Williams can both be three good running backs on one team. Depending on if Tatum Bell or Clinton Portis come here is the question, though.

Texan Asylum
01-02-2007, 07:35 PM
...doomed the team to another dreadful year.

'If's' a big stretch of a word, but if I remember correctly, there were more than one or two games that were VERY winnable. You're talking a .500 team at that point. There were many on this board that I would call very knowledgeable posters, that predicted a 6-10 season, and said that that would be a significant improvement...

Not that DREADFUL in my opinion.

TheCD
01-02-2007, 07:37 PM
Interesting article...but I put little stock in anybody who refers to Reggie Bush as a "proven back".

axman40
01-02-2007, 07:48 PM
Interesting article...but I put little stock in anybody who refers to Reggie Bush as a "proven back".
Howzabout a proven scat back?
:secret:

Hervoyel
01-02-2007, 08:06 PM
At this point, knowing what I know about both of them I'd keep Dayne and try to trade Domanick if I could. If I couldn't I'd release or try and reach an injury settlement. I'd be damned if I would go into the off-season counting on him to make it back. I don't care how good he says it feels right now he's got a knee problem that's never going to go away and the moment it doesn't feel right he's going to hit the IR list.

I love what DD did for us but I'll be shocked if DW makes it through training camp without a repeat of last years "It felt great but then I practiced and now it's hurting" experience.

Ron Dayne on the other hand is a back who's got hardly any miles on him since being drafted in the NFL because the Giants never seemed to know how to use him. He looked done before he got to Denver and, if their backfield hadn't been crowded and his toe hurting he might be the comeback player of the year right now.

I hope we keep him because I think he's got 3-4 years of heavy running in him. The system suits him and he seems more motivated than he's ever been.

TheCD
01-02-2007, 08:06 PM
Howzabout a proven scat back?
:secret:

Haha...I'll accept a proven receiver just fine, but anyone who's watched Reggie Bush run the ball know he's anything but proven.

phan1
01-02-2007, 08:11 PM
If you take the media and fans out of the equation, you'd think this guy would be our franchise QB that'd be here for the rest of his NFL career. The front office hasn't shown anything that would tell us that Carr would not stay here for 2007. Even if we do keep him for another year, I'd like to see us at least pick a QB in the draft around the 4-5th round.

the wonger need food
01-02-2007, 08:13 PM
The front office hasn't shown anything that would tell us that Carr would not stay here for 2007.

What's even more telling is that they haven't shown anything that would tell us that Carr would stay here for 2007.

If they are committed to bringing him back why aren't they saying it now???

Scooter
01-02-2007, 08:23 PM
At this point, knowing what I know about both of them I'd keep Dayne and try to trade Domanick if I could. If I couldn't I'd release or try and reach an injury settlement. I'd be damned if I would go into the off-season counting on him to make it back. I don't care how good he says it feels right now he's got a knee problem that's never going to go away and the moment it doesn't feel right he's going to hit the IR list.

I love what DD did for us but I'll be shocked if DW makes it through training camp without a repeat of last years "It felt great but then I practiced and now it's hurting" experience.

what options do the texans have as far as working out DD during the offseason? i'd think kubiak would want to see DD in practice simulations and some game-type excercises before making any decisions. if DD could prove that he's able to survive a rigorous series of workouts and make it to training camp at 100% it'd go a long way to simplifying our draft & FA since runningback can be removed from the "need" pile. if he cant, we know that before those periods unlike last season and move towards the options you listed.

good points on dayne, i bet he sees a lot more time next year.

Napa Auto Parts
01-02-2007, 08:29 PM
What's even more telling is that they haven't shown anything that would tell us that Carr would stay here for 2007.

If they are committed to bringing him back why aren't they saying it now???



Very True the texans silence on this topic is more than they could say if they believed in carr i think they would of come out and said it.:hides:

HoustonFrog
01-02-2007, 08:29 PM
Haha...I'll accept a proven receiver just fine, but anyone who's watched Reggie Bush run the ball know he's anything but proven.

He isn't proven but he looked like a true RB against the Giants two weeks ago and was running hard. The guy is tough.

As for the article. What are the Texans going to say about him and in their meetings. They'd lose all leverage. I'd think though, with his contract, that if they were positive about him, they'd just say so!

edo783
01-02-2007, 10:42 PM
At this point, knowing what I know about both of them I'd keep Dayne and try to trade Domanick if I could. If I couldn't I'd release or try and reach an injury settlement. I'd be damned if I would go into the off-season counting on him to make it back. I don't care how good he says it feels right now he's got a knee problem that's never going to go away and the moment it doesn't feel right he's going to hit the IR list.

I love what DD did for us but I'll be shocked if DW makes it through training camp without a repeat of last years "It felt great but then I practiced and now it's hurting" experience.

Ron Dayne on the other hand is a back who's got hardly any miles on him since being drafted in the NFL because the Giants never seemed to know how to use him. He looked done before he got to Denver and, if their backfield hadn't been crowded and his toe hurting he might be the comeback player of the year right now.

I hope we keep him because I think he's got 3-4 years of heavy running in him. The system suits him and he seems more motivated than he's ever been.

If you read Kubes latest press conference (I think it's the latest one) he talks about having made a mistake on expecting players to be back from injury. I think he was primarily talking about DD/DW when he said that. I have a sneaking suspicion that DD/DW told Kubes he was good to go and that helped drive the Mario pick. I think DD/DW might have done that to keep RB out of Houston because he probably felt he wouldn't get his starting job back. I don't think Kubes thinks that Mario was a bad pick by any streatch of the imagination, but he is an ofensive guy and probably would have went RB if DD/DW didn't say he was good to go. If you remember the early season press conferences they talked alot about how much DD/DW not being ready realy hurt. I suspect that Kubes isn't real happy with DD/DW.

eriadoc
01-02-2007, 11:51 PM
What's even more telling is that they haven't shown anything that would tell us that Carr would stay here for 2007.

If they are committed to bringing him back why aren't they saying it now???

Just speculation on my part, but they haven't normally come out and stated that players under contract will definitely be returning next year. He is under contract. I'm sure there's some deliberation on the matter, but the media overblows things a fair bit.

Nighthawk
01-02-2007, 11:59 PM
If they are committed to bringing him back why aren't they saying it now???

My guess (being a glass half-full guy): They want to give the impression that they are considering carefully what to do with Carr, so that later, when they "finally" decide to keep him, they can say that carefully studied the problem and he is the best solution.

In other words, to minimize flak from the fans.

SamuraiSword
01-03-2007, 12:59 AM
If you take the media and fans out of the equation, you'd think this guy would be our franchise QB that'd be here for the rest of his NFL career. The front office hasn't shown anything that would tell us that Carr would not stay here for 2007. Even if we do keep him for another year, I'd like to see us at least pick a QB in the draft around the 4-5th round.

If Carr is back next season he will be competing for his job. Sage did well, but he does not do as well when he plays full time. I could see us doing a rotation with the QB next season maybe like Carr does the first half and Sage does the second half. Then start molding the new QB on the sideline and showing him the ropes so that he can start the next season.

shinerbock_girl
01-03-2007, 04:20 AM
I really believe Carr will be back, due to the options out there right now i'm not very impressed with, But i also feel he will be competing with Sage for the starting job...

El Tejano
01-03-2007, 08:15 AM
For the first time SI got the story right.

I believe Carr will be back also, I just don't think we are going to go into the season depending on him. I believe we will either bring in Jake or draft another QB and put the starting role up for grabs for all QBs in camp.

As for DW, I say go ahead and go for Portis or another FA RB, If not draft another RB. Who cares if DW is back. If his knee is healthy, it will show when he beats out the current 3 and whoever else we get.

If not, then you got your reason to release, trade what have you.

L33Z71
01-03-2007, 08:34 AM
Unfortunately I feel that Carr will be back next year too. I feel that there are options out that to bring someone else in, but McNair still believes that Carr is the future of the team. Just my 2 cents.

They may let Sage and Carr compete for the starting job, but if Carr stays you can bet that they will not bring in a veteran QB and you can also bet that Carr will "Win" the starting position. It would be crazy to pay the type of money that Carr is making to just sit on the bench.

the wonger need food
01-03-2007, 08:42 AM
Just speculation on my part, but they haven't normally come out and stated that players under contract will definitely be returning next year. He is under contract. I'm sure there's some deliberation on the matter, but the media overblows things a fair bit.

McNair and Kubiak have both been asked about replacing Carr and neither has said that it absolutely won't happen and that Carr is their man. Right? If someone asks them if DeMeco Ryans will be their starting MLB next season what do you think the response would be?

El Tejano
01-03-2007, 09:07 AM
McNair and Kubiak have both been asked about replacing Carr and neither has said that it absolutely won't happen and that Carr is their man. Right? If someone asks them if DeMeco Ryans will be their starting MLB next season what do you think the response would be?

We are going to evaluate each player and make the necessary adjustment because we might be able to put Ryans as an OLB.

HoustonFrog
01-03-2007, 09:28 AM
If Carr is back next season he will be competing for his job. Sage did well, but he does not do as well when he plays full time. I could see us doing a rotation with the QB next season maybe like Carr does the first half and Sage does the second half. Then start molding the new QB on the sideline and showing him the ropes so that he can start the next season.

See this is why I think Carr won't be back. You need continuity. Carr doesn't give it to you by himself. If he barely wins out and has Sage sitting there, you know the fans will be waiting to boo and get Sage in there. The tension will be worse than this year. I say they start fresh. Bring Sage or Jake or whomever in and draft a guy in the 3rd or 4th round that you think can learn the system. Bring him up slowly why a vet plays. If he becomes ready sooner, play him.

rafterticket
01-03-2007, 11:57 AM
If you read Kubes latest press conference (I think it's the latest one) he talks about having made a mistake on expecting players to be back from injury. I think he was primarily talking about DD/DW when he said that. I have a sneaking suspicion that DD/DW told Kubes he was good to go and that helped drive the Mario pick. I think DD/DW might have done that to keep RB out of Houston because he probably felt he wouldn't get his starting job back. I don't think Kubes thinks that Mario was a bad pick by any streatch of the imagination, but he is an ofensive guy and probably would have went RB if DD/DW didn't say he was good to go. If you remember the early season press conferences they talked alot about how much DD/DW not being ready realy hurt. I suspect that Kubes isn't real happy with DD/DW.

I had the exact same thoughts.

You think Kubes might have yelled something like "I never want to see that number or hear that name AGAIN!"?

threetoedpete
01-03-2007, 12:33 PM
Howzabout a proven scat back?
:secret:

How about the curled lipped under achieving Lorenzo Booker ? Cost you about forty million dollars less, and can be had with a day two pick. Might not be as sexy, but quite efficient.

threetoedpete
01-03-2007, 12:35 PM
I had the exact same thoughts.

You think Kubes might have yelled something like "I never want to see that number or hear that name AGAIN!"?

Saw him bouncing around the first day of camp. He was good to go then. Ya never know.

cuppacoffee
01-03-2007, 12:50 PM
What's even more telling is that they haven't shown anything that would tell us that Carr would stay here for 2007.

If they are committed to bringing him back why aren't they saying it now???

What? You didn't get the email? ..:shades:

:coffee: