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thunderkyss
01-02-2007, 06:13 PM
I was browsing the stats on NFL.com, and noticed they have Mario listed at 4.5 sacks.


I thought he had 5.5 sacks.... didn't he nail Charlie Frye in the endzone when Frye got hit for the intentional grounding?? don't they count that as a sack??

Sarg01
01-02-2007, 06:15 PM
I wouldn't think a penalty play would get stats.

Double Barrel
01-02-2007, 06:15 PM
Interesting question...I always thought intentional grounding from the endzone was a safety...so what do I know :um:

TPIMP
01-02-2007, 06:16 PM
Interesting question...I always thought intentional grounding from the endzone was a safety...so what do I know :um:

It was at the 1 not the end zone.

Hulk75
01-02-2007, 06:23 PM
Read this, this is what happened when Rivers did the same thing this year, scroll to the bottom of the page to see what the last guy said, dont know if this helps or not?



http://forum.signonsandiego.com/upload/showthread.php?t=66650

The Pencil Neck
01-02-2007, 06:28 PM
I always thought they counted intentional grounding as a sack to the nearest defensive player. During the game on nfl.com, they initially gave Mario the sack and then they took it away.

I'm really bummed he didn't get that sack.

Tulip
01-02-2007, 06:30 PM
With the penalty, I don't think he gets a sack.

BTW, Jason Babin was our team sack leader with 5 sacks. :(

sprtsfanatic
01-02-2007, 06:31 PM
It was at the 1 not the end zone.

I was in the bullpen a few rows up and it def. looked like he was in the endzone from my view.

Hulk75
01-02-2007, 06:31 PM
With the penalty, I don't think he gets a sack.

BTW, Jason Babin was our team sack leader with 5 sacks. :(

He is a first rd pick, he better do something.

The Pencil Neck
01-02-2007, 06:32 PM
I was in the bullpen a few rows up and it def. looked like he was in the endzone from my view.

No, it's pretty clear in the replays that he wasn't in the end zone.

carter08
01-02-2007, 07:15 PM
Peek, if healthy, could get 10 sacks

TexanSam
01-02-2007, 07:17 PM
Peek, if healthy, could get 10 sacks

Peek is overrated. He's a decent player but he isn't anything more than a pass rusher on 3rd down plays. If he was an everyday player he would show it by now.

thunderkyss
01-02-2007, 07:20 PM
Peek is overrated. He's a decent player but he isn't anything more than a pass rusher on 3rd down plays. If he was an everyday player he would show it by now.

Same could be said for Dwight Freeney........... but some folks think he's a god.

nunusguy
01-02-2007, 07:25 PM
Peek, if healthy, could get 10 sacks

Maybe. But probably not with the Texans.

A Texan
01-02-2007, 07:25 PM
I always thought they counted intentional grounding as a sack to the nearest defensive player. During the game on nfl.com, they initially gave Mario the sack and then they took it away.

I'm really bummed he didn't get that sack.
Don't get too hung up on semantics or stats. It actually was more impressive than some that they call "sacks". Way to go, Mario! (Hope he's over his foot problem in 2007).

thunderkyss
01-02-2007, 07:25 PM
With the penalty, I don't think he gets a sack.



If it were a holding penalty by the offensive line, and the sack was for 5 yards, or 7 yards, we'd accept the penalty to back them up 10 yards.... the sack wouldn't count.

If Mario hit Frye with the crown of his helmet, he would have been called for roughing the passer, the sack wouldn't count.

But since intentional grounding is a penalty..... aimed at making it less attractive to QBs to avoid a sack..... the sack is generally awarded to the nearest defensive player, and the ball is spotted wher the QB was when he threw it. It is treated as if it were a sack...... loss of down included.

jerek
01-02-2007, 07:27 PM
IIRC Mario first hit Frye at the 2 ... they gave him that forward progress ... no safety ... though yes my understanding of the rules is it should have been a sack.

thunderkyss
01-02-2007, 07:53 PM
... though yes my understanding of the rules is it should have been a sack.

well they robbed Mario of a legit sack.... should make Vinny happy.

hot pickle
01-02-2007, 08:10 PM
is there anyway to contact the NFL and let them know about this?

TEXANS84
01-02-2007, 11:35 PM
Mario's 4.5 sacks ties another 1st overall defensive end draft pick, Courtney Brown.

utahmark
01-02-2007, 11:48 PM
Mario's 4.5 sacks ties another 1st overall defensive end draft pick, Courtney Brown.

i would of rather not known that.

AggieTexanFan
01-03-2007, 04:23 AM
He should have gotten the sack

But on the other hand it was nice to hear the fans chanting MARIO MARIO when he made that play

shinerbock_girl
01-03-2007, 04:34 AM
He'll be even better next year!!!!!

Stros5Texans80
01-03-2007, 05:15 AM
is there anyway to contact the NFL and let them know about this?

I don't think they would care. :hides: