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prostock101
12-28-2006, 10:29 PM
Houston Texans defensive end Mario Williams, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2006 NFL draft, recently got a second opinion on his injured right foot by renowned orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews.

Williams has been nagged by a case of plantar fasciitis since before the season, but the opinion for now is that Williams will not require surgery, agent Ben Dogra said.

"Dr. Andrews agreed with what the Houston doctors are saying, that he can't make the injury any worse and that it will heal on its own in time," said Dogra, acknowledging that his client saw Andrews within the past 10 days. "It's something that could change over the next few months, so we're going to keep monitoring it. Could he have surgery in the offseason? At this point no, but we'll see where it is in time."

Sounds like good news.


The Texans' up-and-down season, which has featured a pair of wins against the Jacksonville Jaguars and one against the Indianapolis Colts, leaves the franchise with many of the same questions as last offseason. The biggest issues: Is David Carr the long-term answer at quarterback, and is there a franchise running back on the roster?

The Texans will get back former 1,000-yard rusher Domanick Davis from a season-ending knee injury, and they are hopeful that rookie offensive tackle Charles Spencer will be back to 100 percent after suffering a major leg injury early in the year. However, Carr's lackluster playmaking ability is what seems to have first-year coach Gary Kubiak most frustrated. Carr has a career-best 68.6 completion percentage, but his critical thinking and ability to get them into the red zone – perhaps best evidenced by a 1:1 touchdown-to-interception ratio – have not improved enough to warrant another 16 games.

Does he know something about DD we don't know?

Carr is owed nearly $12 million over the next two years, but there is speculation that owner Bob McNair will endorse either a trade or outright release between now and March 1. The team could turn to a veteran like Jake Plummer or Jeff Garcia in the offseason since both fit Kubiak's scheme.

Second on Houston's offseason list is figuring out the backfield situation, although Ron Daynes late-season comeback is going to make it hard for a Mike Shanahan-taught staff to invest a top-five pick in a running back like Oklahomas Adrian Peterson.

One thing hurting the Texans is a lack of a true identity. They need a veteran presence on the offensive line, as well as a safety that can make plays rather than just avoid making big mistakes. If they were to deal down in the draft, LSU safety LaRon Landry would fill that hole perfectly.

ATX
12-28-2006, 11:27 PM
One thing hurting the Texans is a lack of a true identity. They need a veteran presence on the offensive line, as well as a safety that can make plays rather than just avoid making big mistakes. .

This just made me laugh. So who are Weigert, McKinney, Flanagan, and Salaam? Definitely not veterans:ok:

The Pencil Neck
12-28-2006, 11:28 PM
This just made me laugh. So who are Weigert, McKinney, Flanagan, and Salaam? Definitely not veterans:ok:

Veterans without identities. They're the incognitos.

Kaiser Toro
12-28-2006, 11:30 PM
Please provide links, thanks

Sportsfan
12-29-2006, 08:30 AM
The team could turn to a veteran like Jake Plummer or Jeff Garcia in the offseason since both fit Kubiak's scheme.


When did Garcia play in a scheme like ours? San Fran?...

prostock101
12-29-2006, 08:49 AM
Sorry, here's da links....

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AiV9JouOAfAZqbbFcKneUidDubYF?slug=ys-williams122806&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

and

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jm-afcneeds122806&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

The Pencil Neck
12-29-2006, 09:12 AM
When did Garcia play in a scheme like ours? San Fran?...


San Fran and now Philly.

Sportsfan
12-29-2006, 09:13 AM
Ok, thanks. Didn't know our system was a West Coast-type system.

The Pencil Neck
12-29-2006, 09:20 AM
Ok, thanks. Didn't know our system was a West Coast-type system.

Like Denver, ours is a more run-oriented version of it. But prior to being an HC at LA and Denver, Shanahan was one of Seifert's OC's in Frisco (in '94). Kubiak was Shanahan's QB coach in Frisco and then moved to Denver with him in '95 when Shanahan became HC.

tulexan
12-29-2006, 09:23 AM
Please don't tell me that Dayne will be the starting RB next year.

jdm12
12-29-2006, 09:34 AM
Does he know something about DD we don't know?

I was thinking about this on the way in this morning. Has anyone heard anything about DD? Is his knee getting better, worse, same? From the article it sounds like it is getting better. However, I would like to heard that from someone closer to the organization.

J

infantrycak
12-29-2006, 09:44 AM
I was thinking about this on the way in this morning. Has anyone heard anything about DD? Is his knee getting better, worse, same? From the article it sounds like it is getting better. However, I would like to heard that from someone closer to the organization.

J

One of two things will have happened with DD this year. He has sat out the year watching his team play and has either figured out he can live without football and values his future health more or that he misses it tremendously and will play thru the pain.

GuerillaBlack
12-29-2006, 09:47 AM
One of two things will have happened with DD this year. He has sat out the year watching his team play and has either figured out he can live without football and values his future health more or that he misses it tremendously and will play thru the pain.

And I am sure he got a degree at LSU, and with the money the Texans paid him, he would be well off. But if he his healthy enough next season, I hope he comes back.

Sportsfan
12-29-2006, 09:49 AM
Last I remember hearing about DD was that the cartilage in his knee is mostly gone. So he'll either have to play w/pain the rest of his career or not play at all.
Personally I think we'll never see him again.

GP
12-29-2006, 10:41 AM
I think DD is gone. He's got money, he's been out a year, and he refused to get surgery again.

The tid bit about David Carr is interesting because David's brother has claimed that the trigger has already been pulled by McNair to have Carr back again next year...with the plan to get him a better line and possibly another RB. He stated it with certainty, and I'd think he would know since he's in the family. Plus, McNair would not purposefully lie to DC because that's not in his character.

I would be happy in obtaining a FS in the first round of the draft unless we could land a stud OL or C.

Sportsfan
12-29-2006, 10:48 AM
IThe tid bit about David Carr is interesting because David's brother has claimed that the trigger has already been pulled by McNair to have Carr back again next year...with the plan to get him a better line and possibly another RB. He stated it with certainty, and I'd think he would know since he's in the family. Plus, McNair would not purposefully lie to DC because that's not in his character.


How do you know this? Do you know Carr's brother?

Man i hope this isn't the case, jeeez...

Trenches
12-29-2006, 11:07 AM
This just made me laugh. So who are Weigert, McKinney, Flanagan, and Salaam? Definitely not veterans:ok:


I think he meant GOOD veterans.

infantrycak
12-29-2006, 11:17 AM
and he refused to get surgery again.

Where did you get this?

How do you know this? Do you know Carr's brother?

He posts here--Hulk75

Homer
12-29-2006, 11:20 AM
Please don't tell me that Dayne will be the starting RB next year.

I doubt that. I think he's played better because of Leach's blocking, but Davis is a better back and it will be nice to see him finally run behind a decent o-line and a good FB.

GuerillaBlack
12-29-2006, 11:22 AM
Just incase Davis doesn't come back, I think we should draft Marshawn Lynch from California.

Sportsfan
12-29-2006, 12:17 PM
He posts here--Hulk75

Carr's brother= Hulk75??

Odogg
12-29-2006, 12:33 PM
Just incase Davis doesn't come back, I think we should draft Marshawn Lynch from California.

Marshawn Lynch is over rated just like jj arrington was. Don't let last night fool you. Cal's offensive line were opening up huge holes and pushing the D-Line all over the field. Lynch's field vision and acceleration is not very good and the backup to him ran much better last night. (Forrester?)

GuerillaBlack
12-29-2006, 12:50 PM
Marshawn Lynch is over rated just like jj arrington was. Don't let last night fool you. Cal's offensive line were opening up huge holes and pushing the D-Line all over the field. Lynch's field vision and acceleration is not very good and the backup to him ran much better last night. (Forrester?)

I say to you, don't let last night fool you.

El Tejano
12-29-2006, 12:58 PM
Lynch had better games against better teams and for the most part because of A&Ms early ability to keep the Time of Possession, Cal was forced to throw.

I did see a RB that can catch out the backfield though and run with it.

prostock101
12-29-2006, 01:06 PM
As far as DD is concerned, I do remember him saying at the beginning of the year that he would not have another surgery. Would be great if he did come back because of his track record. Can he be 100% is the big if. And if DD can't come back I wouldn't be unhappy with Dayne if he can run a full season like he has these last few games, and there again, the big "if". I'd also like to see more of Chris Taylor. A Dayne/Taylor combo might be a good tandem. Any thoughts?

infantrycak
12-29-2006, 02:47 PM
As far as DD is concerned, I do remember him saying at the beginning of the year that he would not have another surgery.

What he said was there wasn't a surgery to fix his problems, not that he was refusing a recommended surgery.

prostock101
12-29-2006, 02:58 PM
What he said was there wasn't a surgery to fix his problems, not that he was refusing a recommended surgery.

Yes, that is correct. Has anyone actually asked Kubiak as to the status of DD?

Hulk75
12-29-2006, 03:02 PM
Houston Texans defensive end Mario Williams, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2006 NFL draft, recently got a second opinion on his injured right foot by renowned orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews.

Williams has been nagged by a case of plantar fasciitis since before the season, but the opinion for now is that Williams will not require surgery, agent Ben Dogra said.

"Dr. Andrews agreed with what the Houston doctors are saying, that he can't make the injury any worse and that it will heal on its own in time," said Dogra, acknowledging that his client saw Andrews within the past 10 days. "It's something that could change over the next few months, so we're going to keep monitoring it. Could he have surgery in the offseason? At this point no, but we'll see where it is in time."

Sounds like good news.


The Texans' up-and-down season, which has featured a pair of wins against the Jacksonville Jaguars and one against the Indianapolis Colts, leaves the franchise with many of the same questions as last offseason. The biggest issues: Is David Carr the long-term answer at quarterback, and is there a franchise running back on the roster?

The Texans will get back former 1,000-yard rusher Domanick Davis from a season-ending knee injury, and they are hopeful that rookie offensive tackle Charles Spencer will be back to 100 percent after suffering a major leg injury early in the year. However, Carr's lackluster playmaking ability is what seems to have first-year coach Gary Kubiak most frustrated. Carr has a career-best 68.6 completion percentage, but his critical thinking and ability to get them into the red zone perhaps best evidenced by a 1:1 touchdown-to-interception ratio have not improved enough to warrant another 16 games.

Does he know something about DD we don't know?

Carr is owed nearly $12 million over the next two years, but there is speculation that owner Bob McNair will endorse either a trade or outright release between now and March 1. The team could turn to a veteran like Jake Plummer or Jeff Garcia in the offseason since both fit Kubiak's scheme.

Second on Houston's offseason list is figuring out the backfield situation, although Ron Daynes late-season comeback is going to make it hard for a Mike Shanahan-taught staff to invest a top-five pick in a running back like Oklahomas Adrian Peterson.

One thing hurting the Texans is a lack of a true identity. They need a veteran presence on the offensive line, as well as a safety that can make plays rather than just avoid making big mistakes. If they were to deal down in the draft, LSU safety LaRon Landry would fill that hole perfectly.

Thats funny it has to be true then.

prostock101
12-29-2006, 03:13 PM
Thats funny it has to be true then.


I would speculate that Carr will be traded when :pigfly:

I would also speculate that Plummer will be here next year as the No.2 QB.