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Second Honeymoon
12-21-2006, 05:40 PM
just an fyi

Carr is going to be a subject for PTI here after this commercial break. It doesnt look like it is going to go well for him. ESPN

Second Honeymoon
12-21-2006, 05:45 PM
Aikman is wicked smart....Geez, if he wanted to run a football team either managing or coaching, I wouldn't have a problem with him getting the keys.

kcwilson
12-21-2006, 05:48 PM
Sixty percent of the time, it works every time....


based on your signature, I have a feeling that the mention of Carr on PTI will elicit the response of .... it stings the nostrils...

Second Honeymoon
12-21-2006, 05:50 PM
based on your signature, I have a feeling that the mention of Carr on PTI will elicit the response of .... it stings the nostrils...

pungent

Second Honeymoon
12-21-2006, 05:52 PM
omg Kornheiser is an uber dork

Vinny
12-21-2006, 05:53 PM
LOL Wilbon was spot on....he pretty much said that the Texans look like idiots passing on a QB in the best QB class in decades if they draft a rookie a year later in a poor QB class.

ib4texans
12-21-2006, 05:53 PM
omg Kornheiser is an uber dork

Please elaborate!

kcwilson
12-21-2006, 05:53 PM
pungent

.smells like pure gasoline...

Second Honeymoon
12-21-2006, 06:01 PM
LOL Wilbon was spot on....he pretty much said that the Texans look like idiots passing on a QB in the best QB class in decades if they draft a rookie a year later in a poor QB class.

No surprise that Wilbon called it like it is. Both pretty much stated that they wont draft a QB in the 1st Round. I don't think they should either and because of this, expect the Texans organization to do the exact opposite and draft a QB in the 1st Round.

My draft board for Texans
OT Joe Thomas
DE Gaines Adams
WR Calvin Johnson
DT Alan Branch
CB Leon Hall
FS Leron Landry

Any one of those guys could come in and help from Day One. I know it sounds kinda stupid but I think they should hope Gaines Adams falls to him. He is the perfect yin to Mario's yang. Mercurial DE opposite Herculean DE....hello Peyton, nice to have met ya

Second Honeymoon
12-21-2006, 06:03 PM
Please elaborate!

oh man, that Ali Baba genie hat has got to go......

ATX
12-21-2006, 06:09 PM
No surprise that Wilbon called it like it is. Both pretty much stated that they wont draft a QB in the 1st Round. I don't think they should either and because of this, expect the Texans organization to do the exact opposite and draft a QB in the 1st Round.

My draft board for Texans
OT Joe Thomas
DE Gaines Adams
WR Calvin Johnson
DT Alan Branch
CB Leon Hall
FS Leron Landry

Any one of those guys could come in and help from Day One. I know it sounds kinda stupid but I think they should hope Gaines Adams falls to him. He is the perfect yin to Mario's yang. Mercurial DE opposite Herculean DE....hello Peyton, nice to have met ya

I think Calvin Johnson and Joe Thomas will be gone before we pick.....I'd definitely take Thomas, but I know AZ needs a new LT.

As for Branch and Adams....I just think we have too much money spent on the Oline. Williams, TJ, and Babin were all 1st rounders....all are getting paid like 1st rounders.

I'd take the last 2 guys Hall and Landry if we win a few more games and pick later.

I guess you're not big on Peterson since you didn't put his name up there...just curious as to what holds you back from him?

NEROtheZERO
12-21-2006, 06:15 PM
LOL Wilbon was spot on....he pretty much said that the Texans look like idiots passing on a QB in the best QB class in decades if they draft a rookie a year later in a poor QB class.

Eh, I disagree. We believed that Kubiak could ressurect Carr, there is nothing to ashamed of in that. We were wrong, eh, it happens. So we missed out on Cutler, Young, and Leinart - that doesn't make it foolish to draft Russell if we truly believe he can be our future.

If, 5 years down the road, we passed up Young in '06 draft, drafted Russell in the '07 draft, and made a Super Bowl appearence in '09 would it really look that silly?

Building a football team isn't about preserving your pride, it is about putting the best product on the field as you can. If you make a mistake, like we obviously did in '06, there is nothing wrong with recognizing that and moving past it. There is nothing more ominous than letting our '06 mistake dictate our '07 draft. Acknowledge your mistake, learn from it, and move on - don't let it control future decisions.

Vinny
12-21-2006, 06:19 PM
Eh, I disagree. We believed that Kubiak could ressurect Carr, there is nothing to ashamed of in that. We were wrong, eh, it happens. So we missed out on Cutler, Young, and Leinart - that doesn't make it foolish to draft Russell if we truly believe he can be our future. Carr had 60 NFL starts before he was extended to 60 mil in salary and 3 more years. He starts 14 more games and then there is nothing to be ashamed of in your qb evaluation? In whose universe?

NEROtheZERO
12-21-2006, 06:27 PM
Carr had 60 NFL starts before he was extended to 60 mil in salary and 3 more years. He starts 14 more games and then there is nothing to be ashamed of in your qb evaluation? In whose universe?

Well, if we were working under the premise that Carr's flaws were products of the previous coaching staff's system and coaching tactics, which we were, and thought our super-genius new HC could fix those problems, which he didn't, then it makes sense.

I understand that it would have been prudent to go ahead and draft a QB in case we were wrong, but we didn't and to realize and fix our mistake now is more beneficial to the team than would be sulking over hindsight.

All I am saying is that dwelling on past mistakes creates future mistakes. Regardless of how wrong our past decisions were and regardless of what we missed out on because of those decisions, there is no reason to pass up a QB that we feel can make our team a contender.

Mr. White
12-21-2006, 06:33 PM
Kornheiser also brought up Plummer coming in to replace Carr and Wilbon acted like it was the dumbest thing he eve heard. He acted like he'd never heard of the idea although it's been talked about for weeks.

Kinda went like this:

"Plummer?!!! No way they'll bring Jake Plummer in!!!"

I think it was schtick just to dig at Kornheiser. That's what the show's about.

Vinny
12-21-2006, 06:41 PM
Well, if we were working under the premise that Carr's flaws were products of the previous coaching staff's system and coaching tactics, which we were, and thought our super-genius new HC could fix those problems, which he didn't, then it makes sense.

I understand that it would have been prudent to go ahead and draft a QB in case we were wrong, but we didn't and to realize and fix our mistake now is more beneficial to the team than would be sulking over hindsight.

All I am saying is that dwelling on past mistakes creates future mistakes. Regardless of how wrong our past decisions were and regardless of what we missed out on because of those decisions, there is no reason to pass up a QB that we feel can make our team a contender.I understand, but as an organization it looks like you are incompetent when you give a guy that much money and a year later he is the exact same guy he was the first three years. Now you need a QB and not one of the QB's in this draft grade as high as the 3rd best QB in last year's draft class. It just reeks of incompetence is all I'm saying. Yeah, hindsight is 20/20 but it's not all hindsight when half the fans here were begging for a change last year.

hollywood_texan
12-21-2006, 06:50 PM
Well, if we were working under the premise that Carr's flaws were products of the previous coaching staff's system and coaching tactics, which we were, and thought our super-genius new HC could fix those problems, which he didn't, then it makes sense.

I understand that it would have been prudent to go ahead and draft a QB in case we were wrong, but we didn't and to realize and fix our mistake now is more beneficial to the team than would be sulking over hindsight.

All I am saying is that dwelling on past mistakes creates future mistakes. Regardless of how wrong our past decisions were and regardless of what we missed out on because of those decisions, there is no reason to pass up a QB that we feel can make our team a contender.

I hear what you are saying, but drafting high for QB this year seems to be investing in .com's a year after the bubble burst and it isn't coming back in the foresable future.

They missed the wave, they don't need to try a catch a wave that really isn't there.

:snobord:

I think that is what Vinny is trying to say.

Also, it's tough to draft your way out of a QB mess when you took the QB mess #1 in the draft 5 years ago and missed on an excellent opportunity the year before.

They missed it, fix it from a different direction that isn't so expensive or risky is what I am saying. This team has so many other issues.

NEROtheZERO
12-21-2006, 06:51 PM
I understand, but as an organization it looks like you are incompetent when you give a guy that much money and a year later he is the exact same guy he was the first three years. Now you need a QB and not one of the QB's in this draft grade as high as the 3rd best QB in last year's draft class. It just reeks of incompetence is all I'm saying. Yeah, hindsight is 20/20 but it's not all hindsight when half the fans here were begging for a change last year.

I agree with that. I guess I just feel it would compound troubles if we went another offseason without fixing them. The same thing goes for the o-line.

Ryan
12-21-2006, 07:12 PM
i dont know a whole lot about gaines adams..but i think we need to build up that d-line. Might not technically have to be during the draft..but mario cant be double teamed forever...we need to build it up so strong, that the opposing teams need to put 7 or 8 at the line to block us.

aj.
12-21-2006, 07:15 PM
Carr had 60 NFL starts before he was extended to 60 mil in salary and 3 more years.

Actually, it's $46.2 million total earnings if he satisfies all 7 years of his initial contract plus three year option (through '08) which he won't. About 12 million of that $46.2 is his base for '07 and '08 which is in some serious jeopardy at the moment. That said, the 30+ million in real dollars he's been paid since '02 is ridiculous considering the minimal return.

thunderkyss
12-21-2006, 07:52 PM
LOL Wilbon was spot on....he pretty much said that the Texans look like idiots passing on a QB in the best QB class in decades if they draft a rookie a year later in a poor QB class.

I understand what Wilbon said, but....... the Texans look like idiots regardless what we do in the '07 draft. The only thing that will keep the Texans from looking like idiots..... is if we get the running game going.... & David starts playing better.

Cutting David..... we still look like idiots.

trading David.... we still look like idiots.

Starting David..... we look like we're too dumb for our own good.

aj.
12-21-2006, 08:00 PM
We look like idiots until we start winning. Hence, do whatever it takes to start winning games over teams not named the Jaguars in '07.

Mr. White
12-21-2006, 08:05 PM
I remember the words that came out of Wilbon's mouth were "dysfunctional franchise" when the idea came up of drafting a QB in the 1st round.

It looks like the national media is coming around to the thinking of realistists around here.

Mr teX
12-21-2006, 11:27 PM
Eh, I disagree. We believed that Kubiak could ressurect Carr, there is nothing to ashamed of in that. We were wrong, eh, it happens. So we missed out on Cutler, Young, and Leinart - that doesn't make it foolish to draft Russell if we truly believe he can be our future.

If, 5 years down the road, we passed up Young in '06 draft, drafted Russell in the '07 draft, and made a Super Bowl appearence in '09 would it really look that silly?
Building a football team isn't about preserving your pride, it is about putting the best product on the field as you can. If you make a mistake, like we obviously did in '06, there is nothing wrong with recognizing that and moving past it. There is nothing more ominous than letting our '06 mistake dictate our '07 draft. Acknowledge your mistake, learn from it, and move on - don't let it control future decisions.


Preach!!!! Winning is the cure-all plain & simple.

Tayton
12-21-2006, 11:30 PM
Well, if we were working under the premise that Carr's flaws were products of the previous coaching staff's system and coaching tactics, which we were, and thought our super-genius new HC could fix those problems, which he didn't, then it makes sense.

I understand that it would have been prudent to go ahead and draft a QB in case we were wrong, but we didn't and to realize and fix our mistake now is more beneficial to the team than would be sulking over hindsight.

All I am saying is that dwelling on past mistakes creates future mistakes. Regardless of how wrong our past decisions were and regardless of what we missed out on because of those decisions, there is no reason to pass up a QB that we feel can make our team a contender.

Right On. Regardless of what the experts on and off these boards say NONE of the QBs drafted last year are Hall of Famers yet. Lets just get our team better however it takes.

ATX
12-21-2006, 11:34 PM
Right On. Regardless of what the experts on and off these boards say NONE of the QBs drafted last year are Hall of Famers yet. Lets just get our team better however it takes.


I love how these guys in the media can judge a draft before the season is even over. They'll be biting their tongues in a few years if Mario becomes what we expected him to be and we're winning.

Sarg01
12-21-2006, 11:45 PM
I love how these guys in the media can judge a draft before the season is even over. They'll be biting their tongues in a few years if Mario becomes what we expected him to be and we're winning.


No, they won't be. There's a youtube video floating around near the top of the board about the Expansion draft. On the YouTube site, it's linked to the 2002 College Draft in which you can clearly hear Mel Kiper state in reference to Carr and Harrington that 3 or 4 years from now, no one's going to be calling either of these guys busts or disappointments.

ATX
12-21-2006, 11:49 PM
No, they won't be. There's a youtube video floating around near the top of the board about the Expansion draft. On the YouTube site, it's linked to the 2002 College Draft in which you can clearly hear Mel Kiper state in reference to Carr and Harrington that 3 or 4 years from now, no one's going to be calling either of these guys busts or disappointments.

That's what I mean though....they're biting their tongues and not saying that maybe they were wrong about Carr and Harrington.

threetoedpete
12-22-2006, 12:00 AM
Well, if we were working under the premise that Carr's flaws were products of the previous coaching staff's system and coaching tactics, which we were, and thought our super-genius new HC could fix those problems, which he didn't, then it makes sense.

I understand that it would have been prudent to go ahead and draft a QB in case we were wrong, but we didn't and to realize and fix our mistake now is more beneficial to the team than would be sulking over hindsight.

All I am saying is that dwelling on past mistakes creates future mistakes. Regardless of how wrong our past decisions were and regardless of what we missed out on because of those decisions, there is no reason to pass up a QB that we feel can make our team a contender.

Nice post rep coming you way.

ATX
12-22-2006, 12:33 AM
];547457']I think Carr needs a new scenery. 5 years is enough for any QB. Thunder is right, we will look like idoits either way. More likely Carr will fo somewhere else and make us look bad.

In his defense in 5 years:

- We never had a top 20 defense
- A top 20 running game
- A pocket that collapses faster than anybody else

For his own good, he needs to go somewhere.


Our first year we had a pretty damn good defense.....atleast top 15. We had a top 20 running game the past 2 years....last year we were 15th in the league in rushing, 2004 we were 12th in the league in rushing. Got the stats off nfl.com

t_flare
12-22-2006, 02:42 AM
Yea but ask anyone.. ANYONE around the US that watches or pay attention to the NFL... ask them

What do you think of when you talk about the Texans.

9/10 will say "Worst Offenseive Line"

ATX
12-22-2006, 03:08 AM
Yea but ask anyone.. ANYONE around the US that watches or pay attention to the NFL... ask them

What do you think of when you talk about the Texans.

9/10 will say "Worst Offenseive Line"


sadly...that's probably true. What would the 1/10 say?

dbspi
12-22-2006, 03:45 AM
David Carr is damaged good right now, we may never know what he could have been if put in right environment but now he is not capable of carrying a team on his back by him self. When David Carr was drafted he was a franchise quarterback similar to Payton Manning and Carson Palmer but now he is broken down man, allot of things have gone wrong for him. If Mr. bob McNair want to salave Carr and bring him again next year then he needs to draft Adrian Peterson and build the offensive line this off season.

How quickly we forget about Oilers. I have been watching football in Houston 30 years now and I can say Oilers were just as bad as the Texans with Dante Pasterini at the helm and every one wanted him out of town (aka David Carr) but he was saved when the Oilers drafted Earl Cambell in 1978. Mr. Bob McNair can do the same by drafting Adrian Peterson this off season.

We will end up some place around 4 -6 in draft position and AD should be available to us. David Carr can be salvaged if he has Adrian Peterson behind him. Kubiak also need to fix the offensive line this off season. With the improvement of running game and better offensive line Carr career can be salvaged some what in Houston.

But don't ever expect Carr to become Payton Manning, Carson Palmer or Warren Moon clone.

Texans didn't make any mistake when they drafted Mario Williams, he was the right pick and a need pick as well. Vince Young may have many qualities but he is not Payton Manning, Carson Palmer or Warren Moon. Give couple of years before we judge 2006 class.

Adrian Peterson >>>>> Reggie Bush
Payton Manning, Carson Palmer >>>>> Vince Young
Adrian Peterson = Eric Dickerson

Here I said it all.

HJam72
12-22-2006, 08:46 AM
What would the 1/10 say?

They'd say, "What happened to that Dominik guy?"

El Tejano
12-22-2006, 01:40 PM
Texans didn't make any mistake when they drafted Mario Williams, he was the right pick and a need pick as well. Vince Young may have many qualities but he is not Payton Manning, Carson Palmer or Warren Moon. Give couple of years before we judge 2006 class.
Adrian Peterson >>>>> Reggie Bush
Payton Manning, Carson Palmer >>>>> Vince Young
Adrian Peterson = Eric Dickerson

Here I said it all.

It's funny. This was the statement made by every sports analysist when Mario was leading the pact. Then when Young beat us and Reggie had two good games this statement flew out the window.

El Tejano
12-22-2006, 01:42 PM
Any one of those guys could come in and help from Day One. I know it sounds kinda stupid but I think they should hope Gaines Adams falls to him. He is the perfect yin to Mario's yang. Mercurial DE opposite Herculean DE....hello Peyton, nice to have met ya


I don't think it sounds too stupid. If he is the only guy available to us and we can't draft down I say go for it. I don't think it will happen though.

thunderkyss
12-22-2006, 01:53 PM
It's funny. This was the statement made by every sports analysist when Mario was leading the pact. Then when Young beat us and Reggie had two good games this statement flew out the window.

Yeah.. well at that time, our QB looked competent to the outside world..

Now, he looks like a joke.

Mario still wasn't a bad pick. If there were no Vince, or Reggie in this draft, I doubt anyone would question our choice. He is worthy of the #1 overall....... just like David Carr was...... once upon a time.

Had David thrown 4 TDs instead of INTs this past Sunday...... no one would question our decision.

cuppacoffee
12-22-2006, 02:14 PM
Right On. Regardless of what the experts on and off these boards say NONE of the QBs drafted last year are Hall of Famers yet. Lets just get our team better however it takes.

I love how these guys in the media can judge a draft before the season is even over. They'll be biting their tongues in a few years if Mario becomes what we expected him to be and we're winning.

It's funny. This was the statement made by every sports analysist when Mario was leading the pact. Then when Young beat us and Reggie had two good games this statement flew out the window.


Great replies. Good to see some rational thinking.

The greatest QB class in years? Nah...Still unproven at this point.

How about greatest prospects in years.

Ryan Leaf was a great prospect his first year, we all know how that turned out...:secret:

Yep...the player we drafted is a bust and the ones we passed on are future hall of fame players.:sarcasm:

And they haven't even played a full season yet...:shades:

When bspn and their "experts/anal ists " become my source of information I'll give up football.

:coffee:

Second Honeymoon
12-22-2006, 02:22 PM
Yea but ask anyone.. ANYONE around the US that watches or pay attention to the NFL... ask them

What do you think of when you talk about the Texans.

9/10 will say "Worst Offenseive Line"

you can't always trust the opinions of the 'sheeple'

Second Honeymoon
12-22-2006, 02:27 PM
Adrian Peterson >>>>> Reggie Bush
Payton Manning, Carson Palmer >>>>> Vince Young
Adrian Peterson = Eric Dickerson

Here I said it all.

So Peterson is already better than Bush and equal to Dickerson. Ok, whatever you say...

I love Peterson and I think Bush has a lot to work on. However, Bush has already come into the NFL and made a difference. Period. End of Story. And to even compare much less equate Peterson with a game re-defining player like Dickerson is just out and out blasphemy.

I think Peterson could be a great back in the NFL. He is better suited for the NFL than Bush as an everydown back. However, Adrian has a lot of mileage on them tires. Stoops ran that dude into the ground ala Bum with Earl. He had the dude returning kicks for crying out loud. That is just stupid but is a testament to Peterson's game breaking ability.

I wouldn't have a problem with the Texans drafting Peterson but dont act like its a done deal. Peterson is more of a question mark than Bush was last year. Injuries. Wear and tear.

one thing you cant question is Adrian's heart. He runs hard and will do anything to help his team win. just dont jump to conclusions just yet.

Second Honeymoon
12-22-2006, 02:31 PM
Ryan Leaf was a great prospect his first year, we all know how that turned out...:secret:

David Carr was a great prospect his first year, and we all know how that has turned out...:secret:

Sarg01
12-22-2006, 02:37 PM
you can't always trust the opinions of the 'sheeple'

Except when they happen to be backed up with facts like 2 of the worst pass protection seasons in the history of the NFL - including the absolute worst ever?

I'm not going to defend a 4 INT game, but the Carr haters keep forgetting some plainly obvious realities.

aj.
12-22-2006, 02:43 PM
Great replies. Good to see some rational thinking.


Ryan Leaf was a great prospect his first year, we all know how that turned out...:secret:



Pretty bad example....

Leaf threw 2 touchdown passes and 15 interceptions in the 10 games he played in his rookie season. You could tell pretty quick that he wasn't going to work out (on the field and off) -- just like you could tell pretty quick that VY and Leinart are going to work out. Give him a few more starts and I'm sure that Cutler will show that he belongs as well...

Second Honeymoon
12-22-2006, 02:46 PM
Except when they happen to be backed up with facts like 2 of the worst pass protection seasons in the history of the NFL - including the absolute worst ever?

I'm not going to defend a 4 INT game, but the Carr haters keep forgetting some plainly obvious realities.

he sacks himself. opposing players have said this and knowledgeable fans have seen this numerous times.

you can't just think sacks given up are all on the OL or how you judge the quality of an OL.

this isn't baseball where you can just open your daily newspaper and look at the stats and come up with a valid analysis.

but anyway, keep keep making excuses for David's horrible career and keep losing game after game for all I care....I gave up on some of you homers a long time ago

for the record, the OL did play poorly in New England. Second worst game of their season behind the Dallas game.

jayjordan
12-24-2006, 01:52 AM
My problem with carr is that he should already know before he says "hut" that there gonna blitz. So why not set up a hot route a screen perhaps or drop back 2/3 steps and if you dont see nothing start running. No he rather sit there knowing there gonna blitz and with a bad OLine

HJam72
12-24-2006, 04:31 AM
My problem with carr is that he should already know before he says "hut" that there gonna blitz. So why not set up a hot route a screen perhaps or drop back 2/3 steps and if you dont see nothing start running. No he rather sit there knowing there gonna blitz and with a bad OLine

The problem with that is THEY'RE NOT BLITZING. It just looks like they are because their 3 or 4 linemen run through our pass protection like a line of turn-styles.

They're actually running deep cover zones.

cuppacoffee
12-24-2006, 10:19 AM
Pretty bad example....

Leaf threw 2 touchdown passes and 15 interceptions in the 10 games he played in his rookie season. You could tell pretty quick that he wasn't going to work out (on the field and off) -- just like you could tell pretty quick that VY and Leinart are going to work out. Give him a few more starts and I'm sure that Cutler will show that he belongs as well...

I've come to respect your postings on the board more than most.

I am just not quite ready to put any of this years draft class into the hof yet as some are wont to do.

:coffee:

BattleRedToro
12-24-2006, 10:55 AM
I love how these guys in the media can judge a draft before the season is even over. They'll be biting their tongues in a few years if Mario becomes what we expected him to be and we're winning.

No they won't. They will be saying crap like, " I knew it all along" and, " I told you that was a good pick." That is the way these hacks work and noone ever calls them out on it. It is terrible. It reminds me of the 1992 Vice Presidential debate between Dan Quayle, Al Gore, and Admiral James Stockdale. In that debate Al Gore starts blathering on on one side of an issue and Dan Quayle interjects that Al Gore had taken an entirely different position in his book, which Al Gore denied. Dan Quayle then proceeded to read directly from Al Gore's book and prove his point. It was hilarious watching Al Gore squirm while Dan Quayle nailed him, but it was also sad how the reporting on that debate was buried in the news. To me, it was just one more piece of evidence of a left wing bias in the news industry. Had the roles been reversed it would have been blasted all over the news the way the whole potato mispelling thing was, and that is the way that this story of spineless sports-media hacks changing their stance on a draft pick and not admitting they were wrong would be treated as well, buried in the news.

BattleRedToro
12-24-2006, 11:24 AM
David Carr is damaged good right now, we may never know what he could have been if put in right environment but now he is not capable of carrying a team on his back by him self. When David Carr was drafted he was a franchise quarterback similar to Payton Manning and Carson Palmer but now he is broken down man, allot of things have gone wrong for him. If Mr. bob McNair want to salave Carr and bring him again next year then he needs to draft Adrian Peterson and build the offensive line this off season.

How quickly we forget about Oilers. I have been watching football in Houston 30 years now and I can say Oilers were just as bad as the Texans with Dante Pasterini at the helm and every one wanted him out of town (aka David Carr) but he was saved when the Oilers drafted Earl Cambell in 1978. Mr. Bob McNair can do the same by drafting Adrian Peterson this off season.

We will end up some place around 4 -6 in draft position and AD should be available to us. David Carr can be salvaged if he has Adrian Peterson behind him. Kubiak also need to fix the offensive line this off season. With the improvement of running game and better offensive line Carr career can be salvaged some what in Houston.

But don't ever expect Carr to become Payton Manning, Carson Palmer or Warren Moon clone.

Texans didn't make any mistake when they drafted Mario Williams, he was the right pick and a need pick as well. Vince Young may have many qualities but he is not Payton Manning, Carson Palmer or Warren Moon. Give couple of years before we judge 2006 class.

Adrian Peterson >>>>> Reggie Bush
Payton Manning, Carson Palmer >>>>> Vince Young
Adrian Peterson = Eric Dickerson

Here I said it all.

Even if Adrian Peterson were the second coming of Eric Dickerson, that wouldn't be enough to turn this team around like the Oilers did with Earl Campbell. Partly because Petersen would need to be the second coming of Earl Campbell, and not Eric Dickerson, as you have suggested he is. Earl Campbell was by far the best RB I have ever seen. The things he did behind a similarly bad O-line for the Oilers were nothing short of amazing. A Campbell-like runner is the only single player I can think of that could have the kind of impact you are alluding to the Texans having with Adrian Peterson. Of course the summation of multiple talented players could have that kind of impact, but for it to come from a single player it would need to be from a player like Earl Campbell. Now, I don't want people to feel that I am somehow denigrating the accomplishments of Eric Dickerson or Adrian Peterson for that matter, but if we are to assume that Adrian Peterson is the second coming of Eric Dickerson then the Peterson would need to play under similar circumstances with the Texans that Dickerson had with the Rams if we are to expect similar results. Well, this is where the real breakdown in your analogy occurs. For you see, the Rams had one of the best O-lines in all of the NFL at that time, and yes I know you also indicated in your post the need for the Texans to improve their line as well, but it isn't very plausible to suggest that one of the worst O-lines in NFL history could become one of the best in the league next year in one off-season. In conclusion, it will take time for the Texans to fix their O-line as well as the plethora of other problems this team has, and the addition of any RB less than the spectacular Earl Campbell isn't going to change that.