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Bubbajwp
12-17-2006, 05:53 PM
If either one of them enters the draft. We need to draft him and let him sit for a year.

Who do you guys think is better.

tulexan
12-17-2006, 05:56 PM
With what pick?

LORK 88
12-17-2006, 06:11 PM
Depends on the situation. FA will determine alot of things, and QB is a way we could go R1. Personally, I value Brohm as the better QB, but Russell may fit better because of his size and is alittle bit more mobile (not by much). No matter who is QB next season, WE NEED O LINE HELP! Not sure if Carr is QB or one of these guys, but either way we need to make sure that if we do draft a QB, that they dont have to go thru what Carr did.

Vinny
12-17-2006, 06:23 PM
With what pick?The one we get in the trade down.

RotorTrash007
12-17-2006, 06:29 PM
Id go with JaMarcus Russell Im not really familiar with Brohm... anyways I just think that JarMarcus would be exactly what the Texans need. As for the OL... I think they have improved, and are going to get better. Its the QB who is the problem... of course thats my opinion... I know everyone saw what Vince Young did... honestly I was glad it happened a good way for him to show Houston how much they screwed up.

Vinny
12-17-2006, 06:34 PM
Russell is one of my early favorites for us to take. That isn't my opinion about what we do, but I'd try to find a way move on him like Denver did with Cutler if I was making the draft plans. He is a heck of a prospect.

rmartin65
12-17-2006, 06:37 PM
Brohm. I dont think he is coming out though.

RotorTrash007
12-17-2006, 06:42 PM
Brohm. I dont think he is coming out though.

why brohm?

tulexan
12-17-2006, 06:48 PM
I don't think Russell is a first round prospect. He has tons of potential, but still makes a lot of stupid mistakes (like Culpepper).

I also have doubts that Brohm will come out this year. If he comes out he will be a mid to late 1st round pick, if he stays he could be the top pick next year.

I don't think the Texans will draft a QB in the first or second round. They will take either Joe Thomas or Adrian Peterson with their top 5-7 pick. If they trade down it will be for Marshawn Lynch.

Vinny
12-17-2006, 06:52 PM
I don't think Russell is a first round prospect. He has tons of potential, but still makes a lot of stupid mistakes (like Culpepper).

I also have doubts that Brohm will come out this year. If he comes out he will be a mid to late 1st round pick, if he stays he could be the top pick next year.

I don't think the Texans will draft a QB in the first or second round. They will take either Joe Thomas or Adrian Peterson with their top 5-7 pick. If they trade down it will be for Marshawn Lynch.wasn't this what you said about Young early on too? Didn't we exchange a bunch of posts on it? I've seen him play quite a bit and he has incredible talent....he is every bit the prospect that Leftwich, Rothlisburger, Leinart and Cutler have been....I'm betting I see him taken right in the same area (top half of the first round).

Grid
12-17-2006, 06:56 PM
Im on the JaMarcus wagon myself. I dont want to make the same mistake twice. I think Kubiak could do wonders with a prospect like Russell.

tulexan
12-17-2006, 07:06 PM
wasn't this what you said about Young early on too? Didn't we exchange a bunch of posts on it? I've seen him play quite a bit and he has incredible talent....he is every bit the prospect that Leftwich, Rothlisburger, Leinart and Cutler have been....I'm betting I see him taken right in the same area (top half of the first round).


Being in Louisiana, I have watched my fair share of LSU games. He has tons of potential, but still makes a lot of dumb mistakes that he won't get away with in the NFL.

I do have to say that he does have one of the strongest arms that I have ever seen.

I would love to see us draft him, but not in the first round. I still think he will stay another year and try to win a national championship with LSU (unless he has a Vince-like game in the Sugar Bowl).

edo783
12-17-2006, 07:07 PM
The one we get in the trade down.

That would be the right one. I like Russell, but not sure he is a early 1st round talent. Late 1st, early second, then pick him. Probaly will need at least a year behind a vet to sit and learn. (please don't throw a rookie behind this line unless it comes up substantially) The question then would be......what vet. Dump Carr and we take a fairly hefty cap hit, keep him and I doubt we show much improvement and do we want a rookie learning from him? Plummer will probably be available, but that probably wont be cheap especially when adding in the Carr hit and would he really help? I think Jake might be some help, but what would the cost be. Could Roesethal hold the line for a year? Might not be a bad thought if the understanding is he is just keeping the seat warm for the kid to get ready. Might be good enough to get us to 8-8 if we improve as much talent wise as a team as we did this year.

Just kind of throwing thoughts out.

kastofsna
12-17-2006, 07:08 PM
I don't think Russell is a first round prospect. He has tons of potential, but still makes a lot of stupid mistakes (like Culpepper).

I also have doubts that Brohm will come out this year. If he comes out he will be a mid to late 1st round pick, if he stays he could be the top pick next year.

I don't think the Texans will draft a QB in the first or second round. They will take either Joe Thomas or Adrian Peterson with their top 5-7 pick. If they trade down it will be for Marshawn Lynch.
culpepper was the 11th pick in the draft. and russell most certainly is a first round prospect. will most likely wind up going top 10.

Vinny
12-17-2006, 07:10 PM
Being in Louisiana, I have watched my fair share of LSU games. He has tons of potential, but still makes a lot of dumb mistakes that he won't get away with in the NFL.

I do have to say that he does have one of the strongest arms that I have ever seen.

I would love to see us draft him, but not in the first round. I still think he will stay another year and try to win a national championship with LSU (unless he has a Vince-like game in the Sugar Bowl).I think he will end up grading too high to stay. His coaches say he has a good grasp on the game...good enough to coach if he wanted. I think his "dumb mistakes" have mostly come in bunches and he makes enough plays to overcome his 3 INT games and such. He is a bit of a project...but the talent is there in spades. He is a physical freak.

rmartin65
12-17-2006, 07:28 PM
why brohm?

I dont like scrambling quarterbacks that much. I like quarterbacks that are great throwers, that can read the game, analyze the D, stuff like that. And I think Brohm is a better thrower.

Blake
12-17-2006, 07:30 PM
I wouldnt take him with a top 10 pick fo sho.

I am not a big Russell fan. Maybe the bowl game will change my mind.

Huge
12-17-2006, 08:15 PM
I don't think Russell is a first round prospect. He has tons of potential, but still makes a lot of stupid mistakes (like Culpepper).

I also have doubts that Brohm will come out this year. If he comes out he will be a mid to late 1st round pick, if he stays he could be the top pick next year.

I don't think the Texans will draft a QB in the first or second round. They will take either Joe Thomas or Adrian Peterson with their top 5-7 pick. If they trade down it will be for Marshawn Lynch.
Holy crap. I agree with everything you just said.

beerlover
12-17-2006, 08:47 PM
I would rate Brohm, Russell, Quinn not to mention VY, Leinart & Cutler all higher than Carr & the Texans picked him 1st overall :shades:

Vinny
12-17-2006, 09:44 PM
I'll take a serving of this...thankyouverymuchsircanihaveanother

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htSI0HOfiy0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnBi8n12OxI

mexican_texan
12-17-2006, 09:46 PM
hehe...let me put it this way:

Leinart or Young?

Snapple
12-18-2006, 12:00 AM
I don't like JaMarcus Russell. I think he fumbles too much, which makes him too much like Carr. Plus, he's looked lost in some big games, like against Auburn.

I am really high on Brohm though, and have been for a while now. I don't think he's gotten enough experience at the college level though, especially since he was injured for a good portion of this year. I'd like for him to go back for his senior year and get some more polish. When he comes out for the 2008 draft, he'll be a stud.

beerlover
12-18-2006, 12:18 AM
one of the things thats bothered me about David from day one is his set position in the pocket, he does not stand tall and throws from a croutched positon with excessive leg bend. both Brohm & Russell stand tall, see down the field & have strong arms without the excessive leg bend which does make for a significant difference in flight pattern of the ball starting with launch angle @ from the line of scrimmage. David simply gets too many balls tipped or batted down causing turnovers.

mexican_texan
12-18-2006, 12:20 AM
Carr throws sidearmed...

Ole Miss Texan
12-18-2006, 12:24 AM
hehe...let me put it this way:

Leinart or Young?

Hah. I agree. If you pass on last year's qb's...don't waste a 1st on this year's.

tulexan
12-18-2006, 12:34 PM
I'll take a serving of this...thankyouverymuchsircanihaveanother

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htSI0HOfiy0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnBi8n12OxI

You'll take him stepping out of bounds at the 4 yard line?

Just kidding, the guy is a physical freak. Rumor is that he can throw the ball 70 yards on one knee (according to Early Doucet). I still don't think he will or should be our first pick. I'll take him in the 2nd, but not high in the first.

sgntxnfn
12-18-2006, 01:50 PM
JaMarcus Russell is a freaking beast. I've seen him listed as 6ft. 6 260. He has a cannon arm-one of the best I've seen. He also has lead some great fourth quarter comebacks. The notion that he looks 'lost' I think is misleading but I do think he'd benefit from another year in school. I would not be sad if we picked him in the 1st though. I think his physical attributes will have him shoot up draft boards after the combine.

Texans86
12-18-2006, 05:16 PM
I'm just ready for that Sugar Bowl to come around. We'll see the first two QB picks this year go at each other. Should be fun.

edo783
12-18-2006, 05:33 PM
JaMarcus Russell is a freaking beast. I've seen him listed as 6ft. 6 260. He has a cannon arm-one of the best I've seen. He also has lead some great fourth quarter comebacks. The notion that he looks 'lost' I think is misleading but I do think he'd benefit from another year in school. I would not be sad if we picked him in the 1st though. I think his physical attributes will have him shoot up draft boards after the combine.

And, he is a pass first guy that can run and seems accurate when he chucks it. A year or 2 under Kubes and he might be special. Always a toss of the dice though.

dbspi
12-18-2006, 07:05 PM
I dont like scrambling quarterbacks that much. I like quarterbacks that are great throwers, that can read the game, analyze the D, stuff like that. And I think Brohm is a better thrower.

Biggest questions mark with Brohm is his arm strength. Jamarcus Russel is the way to go after trading down a few spots. Texans won't be in position to draft Quinn, Johnson, Thomas unless AZ, Oakland, Detroit, and Tampa wins few more games and we loose our next two games and finish the season 4-12.

Worst case scenerio with out trade down ---- All Day, which is also not bad to consolation prize to have.