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DC Texan
12-13-2006, 12:42 PM
In my opinion, he is your best option at running back. The man is a beast when healthy. Lundy is a good compliment, but Dayne should definitely be your number one back.

Vinny
12-13-2006, 12:43 PM
he's a nice back up...but not an NFL caliber starting rb.

TexansLucky13
12-13-2006, 12:45 PM
he's a nice back up...but not an NFL caliber starting rb.

Couldn't be stated any more perfect than that.

El Tejano
12-13-2006, 12:51 PM
he's a nice back up...but not an NFL caliber starting rb.

I agree Vinny. Who do you think we should target as a starter for our team?

DC Texan
12-13-2006, 12:52 PM
I think a few more games and you will change your mind.

pittbull
12-13-2006, 12:52 PM
Dayne lacks the passion to be a starting back, and it visible most of the time. He is good at times, but has never lived up to his hype. There is no reason he shouldn't be a Jerome Bettis back. Has more speed than Bettis had. Great feet like Bettis, and cuts like him too. The biggest difference is desire.

Trenches
12-13-2006, 12:56 PM
I agree Vinny. Who do you think we should target as a starter for our team?

Michael Turner. Although I bet the Giants are thinking he will take over the seed role for Tiki once he is gone.

DC Texan
12-13-2006, 12:57 PM
I don't think desire is the problem. Desire got him moved from third string running back at the end of last season with the Broncos to a starter going into training camp this year. Turf Toe or should I say foot got him knocked out of training camp and eventually off the team. When he came to Texas he was still battling turf toe but was rushed in the line up. I am not making excuses for him but you can see the difference when he is healthy.

real
12-13-2006, 12:58 PM
Michael Turner. Although I bet the Giants are thinking he will take over the seed role for Tiki once he is gone.

Brandon Jacobs ?

Trenches
12-13-2006, 01:02 PM
Brandon Jacobs ?

I dont think they consider him an every down back. Probably want somebody more multi-dimensional to go along with him.

DC Texan
12-13-2006, 01:09 PM
Dayne wasn't a total bust in New York either. He did fail in taking the starting role from Tikki, but he did manage to become one of the leading rookie running backs (yardage) in Giants history. Demanding to be traded and skipping training camp is what got him deactivated from their roster.

rockabilly
12-13-2006, 01:10 PM
I think we should keep Dayne on. He looks good. We should still hit the draft for a starting caliber back...but like someone said earlier, he should be our Jerome Bettis. We just need to find a Willie Parker.

DC Texan
12-13-2006, 01:12 PM
True

Yankee_In_TX
12-13-2006, 01:48 PM
I think we should keep Dayne on. He looks good. We should still hit the draft for a starting caliber back...but like someone said earlier, he should be our Jerome Bettis. We just need to find a Willie Parker.

Lunday, given time, may be that back. He needs to learn to run smarter.

DayneBum
12-13-2006, 02:55 PM
ron Dayne is a starting rb, he should be and will be. A healthy Ron Dayne is a beast. The guy plays with a chip on his shoulder. He's the type of back that needs 25-30 carries a game, not 5 carries every 3-4 series. What rb is not statring material needing 25-30 carries a game. If he never got hurt in the begining of the season, he would still be in Denver as the starting rb. As a matter of fact there is a big chance he will be back in denver next year.

Texan_Bill
12-13-2006, 02:58 PM
I have been pleasantly surprised out of what we have gotten from him, the last two weeks. But how long will that last?? Buffets all around Houston are starting to close down, so he may want out....

Malloy
12-13-2006, 02:58 PM
I just like the fact that he whammed Daniels in the endzone against the Titans. He were going forward alright, that's heart in my book. :)

DayneBum
12-13-2006, 03:00 PM
I have been pleasantly surprised out of what we have gotten from him, the last two weeks. But how long will that last?? Buffets all around Houston are starting to close down, so he may want out....

it's so funny how people joke about dayne's weight, when not once in his entire career he has been fined or showed up to camp overweight, or out of shape.

DayneBum
12-13-2006, 03:01 PM
I think a few more games and you will change your mind.

Every Texan fan will have changed there minds...watch and see. But i agree with u 100%

Vinny
12-13-2006, 03:04 PM
ron Dayne is a starting rb, he should be and will be.
He is on his third NFL team and can't keep a starting job

Texan_Bill
12-13-2006, 03:06 PM
it's so funny how people joke about dayne's weight, when not once in his entire career he has been fined or showed up to camp overweight, or out of shape.

Lighten up (sorry about the pun) I didn't realize that I was joking about a relative...

Read the part where I say I have been pleasantly surprised...

See, many of you that have been in that "dark place" for a very long time have lost your sense of humor...

GuerillaBlack
12-13-2006, 03:23 PM
I think we should keep Dayne on. He looks good. We should still hit the draft for a starting caliber back...but like someone said earlier, he should be our Jerome Bettis. We just need to find a Willie Parker.

Couldn't have said it better. I think Lundy would be our Willie Parker. We should try out Chris Taylor, too. If we can get a good back in the second round, then we should be set at running bacC. Ron Dayne is a beast when healthy. He moves piles of defenders. He is like a Jerome Bettis.

DayneBum
12-13-2006, 03:37 PM
He is on his third NFL team and can't keep a starting job

like i said, Dayne needs 25-30 carries a game, not 5 carries every 4 sereies, and thats just what the G-men did, his entire tenure there, except for his rookie season. he got hurt in Denver, so they let him go. You act like he was the featured back for an entire season. in the 3 games that he was the featured bcak in NYG, b/c tiki was hurt. he had 58car, 337yrds, 3tds w/ 5.3avg....when he was the featured back in Denver for 1 game. Well just go back to Thanksgiving game last year vs Dallas. Like i said he is and will be a starting rb in this league.

edo783
12-13-2006, 10:09 PM
he's a nice back up...but not an NFL caliber starting rb.

And the truly sad thing is....he is probably as close as we have to an NFL starting RB.

shinerbock_girl
12-14-2006, 12:26 AM
Lighten up (sorry about the pun) I didn't realize that I was joking about a relative...

Read the part where I say I have been pleasantly surprised...

See, many of you that have been in that "dark place" for a very long time have lost your sense of humor...

He still reminds me of the BUS...I loved the Bus

threetoedpete
12-14-2006, 04:47 AM
I dont think they consider him an every down back. Probably want somebody more multi-dimensional to go along with him.

Actually, the last Giants game I watch, the comintators said the exact opposite .
Think it was the week that Tiki Barber anouced his retirement. They said the giants loved Jacobs and they may be looking for a complimentary back like Turner or Westbrook to share the load. Gotta to figure they talked to someone befor the game. I don't know and I ain't in the loop. However the guy ala Preist Holmes in Blatimore, has been a TD machine this season. Gotta think they'll hold their water on the franchise guy untill '08.

threetoedpete
12-14-2006, 04:53 AM
like i said, Dayne needs 25-30 carries a game, not 5 carries every 4 sereies, and thats just what the G-men did, his entire tenure there, except for his rookie season. he got hurt in Denver, so they let him go. You act like he was the featured back for an entire season. in the 3 games that he was the featured bcak in NYG, b/c tiki was hurt. he had 58car, 337yrds, 3tds w/ 5.3avg....when he was the featured back in Denver for 1 game. Well just go back to Thanksgiving game last year vs Dallas. Like i said he is and will be a starting rb in this league.

I'm not as high as you are on the Great Dayne. I thought he was going to take out Daniels on one of the TD runs. He's been productive the last two game won't argue that. Just don't think he is Dominic Davis. We could do beter middle of the draft. Not going to bang on the guy. We just have different opinions on the guy.

Trenches
12-14-2006, 07:54 AM
Actually, the last Giants game I watch, the comintators said the exact opposite .
Think it was the week that Tiki Barber anouced his retirement. They said the giants loved Jacobs and they may be looking for a complimentary back like Turner or Westbrook to share the load. Gotta to figure they talked to someone befor the game. I don't know and I ain't in the loop. However the guy ala Preist Holmes in Blatimore, has been a TD machine this season. Gotta think they'll hold their water on the franchise guy untill '08.


the Giants always came up when discussing Turner but it would be great news if they werent players. I think he is a RFA? If so then he is probably out as I'm sure SD would tender him with a pretty high tag and there is no way we would pay a 1st round pick for him. If he is a UFA then I say he is our #1 target in the offseason. He has proven to be explosive (something we DONT have) and I think will become a very good back.


Lets face it. This team has so many holes that they HAVE to find some good players in FA or via trade. There is just no way to fill the holes in a timely manner (before some of our own good players walk) via the draft (hit and miss).

Kubes could put the full court press on a RB and demonstrate how they turned spares into 1,000 yard rushers in Denver.

TNTitan
12-14-2006, 08:10 AM
I like him, dont know why the Texans took him out at end of the game last week? He was moving our DLine!

Hervoyel
12-14-2006, 08:24 AM
He is on his third NFL team and can't keep a starting job

Just a question. If Dayne can do what he's done the past two weeks against the Patriots, Colts, and Browns then do we bring him back and put off the aquisition of a young starting RB for another season. In short do you think he's enough of a player to allow us to address other need spots or would you say we need a back ASAP.

Just curious. He's given me something to watch the past couple of weeks and I'd like to see him do this same thing for the rest of the season. He seems capable enough when he's healthy and getting the carries.

HJam72
12-14-2006, 08:44 AM
When healthy, I think Dayne is starter quality, but not for an entire game. I think he's got about 3 qtrs. in him max. After that (or before that--whatever), it's not like he totally sucks or anything but I'd want somebody else in there. Right now, he might be our best back for all 4 qtrs. Whether or not we need to draft a RB depends on what happens the rest of the year with all of them. I mean, we probably need to, but also have other needs--some definitely outweigh RB, IMO, and others are questionable in that regard. This is all just my :twocents:

DayneBum
12-14-2006, 09:09 AM
Just a question. If Dayne can do what he's done the past two weeks against the Patriots, Colts, and Browns then do we bring him back and put off the aquisition of a young starting RB for another season. In short do you think he's enough of a player to allow us to address other need spots or would you say we need a back ASAP.

Just curious. He's given me something to watch the past couple of weeks and I'd like to see him do this same thing for the rest of the season. He seems capable enough when he's healthy and getting the carries.

Last year during his time in denver Dayne was at 238lbs-235lbs. if he maintains that weight, with a great offseason. He can be that everydown back that everybody wants to see. The injury this year really set him back. b/c he was planning on being at 235-233 at the start of the season. But give him a healthy year, it wont be no talk of drafting a younger rb.

PapaL
12-14-2006, 09:13 AM
Just a question. If Dayne can do what he's done the past two weeks against the Patriots, Colts, and Browns then do we bring him back and put off the aquisition of a young starting RB for another season. In short do you think he's enough of a player to allow us to address other need spots or would you say we need a back ASAP.

Just curious. He's given me something to watch the past couple of weeks and I'd like to see him do this same thing for the rest of the season. He seems capable enough when he's healthy and getting the carries.

NO. While I must admit he has been doing well, Ron Dayne is not the RB to put your future on. Not even one years worth. For the last 7 years we have all seen the type of back he really is; not reliable and not a power back. While he may pop off a couple of good games a season, he is not "The Man."
We need a back that produces yardage and not excuses as to why he hasnt been succesful in the NFL (more so his fans and not him).

TheOgre
12-14-2006, 09:41 AM
he's a nice back up...but not an NFL caliber starting rb.

Exactly. If we had to go with him as our starter for 2007 only, I could live with that. By 2008, we better have a better option.

cuppacoffee
12-14-2006, 09:49 AM
We will have to wait another year to draft our franchise back.

What ever it takes...:money:

Our Franchise Back (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=10&p=8&c=1&nid=2705919)

:coffee:

DC Texan
12-14-2006, 10:40 AM
Just a question. If Dayne can do what he's done the past two weeks against the Patriots, Colts, and Browns then do we bring him back and put off the aquisition of a young starting RB for another season. In short do you think he's enough of a player to allow us to address other need spots or would you say we need a back ASAP.

Just curious. He's given me something to watch the past couple of weeks and I'd like to see him do this same thing for the rest of the season. He seems capable enough when he's healthy and getting the carries.


No and yes. No we do not need to bring in a young starting running back. Yes we should draft a young running back that offers different dimensions. First and foremost though, we need Offensive Linemen. Having a hard nose running back like Dayne opens up so many other options on offense. Having someone consistently pounding the ball against defense creates so many coverage problems. It forces the defense to either have to bring up a safety for additional help or blitz. That means the passing game will be wide open.
If that happens, even David Carr can be successful (given he has an offensive line).

Dayne can last for four quarters. As a matter of fact that is when he is the most devistating. Don't let size fool you!!! Though it may not look like it, Dayne is Damn Fast. What he does lack is that instantaneous explosiveness that backs like LT and Tikki have. That is where I feel some people often get confused and use weight as an excuse or for a lack of a better explination.

thunderkyss
12-14-2006, 10:57 AM
I dont think they consider him an every down back. Probably want somebody more multi-dimensional to go along with him.

Brandon Jacobs has been getting more time in what is normally considered Tiki time....the Giants are transitioning him to be an everydown, or at least their featured back.

As far as RonDayne goes.. I agree with the other Dayne fans in this thread.

There simply is no place on a team for a guy like RonDayne when he is playing behind Tiki Barber, or MikeAnderson/TatumBell in that system.

If you watch our offensive line, they still don't have it.... but once they consistently get to their second level blocks.... RonDayne is going to go off.

He's not as fast as a Tatum Bell, or a Reggie Bush, or a Ladanian Tomlinson. But on that list, I'd put him behind LT, & ahead of Reggie & Tatum in the perfect combination of the two(power/speed).

ArlingtonTexan
12-14-2006, 11:01 AM
like i said, Dayne needs 25-30 carries a game, not 5 carries every 4 sereies, and thats just what the G-men did, his entire tenure there, except for his rookie season. he got hurt in Denver, so they let him go. You act like he was the featured back for an entire season. in the 3 games that he was the featured bcak in NYG, b/c tiki was hurt. he had 58car, 337yrds, 3tds w/ 5.3avg....when he was the featured back in Denver for 1 game. Well just go back to Thanksgiving game last year vs Dallas. Like i said he is and will be a starting rb in this league.

The reason that no one has given him the job fulltime is because over the course of six years, three different organizations have decided that he does not have the ability to carry the fulltime load including the one he is with. Ron Dayne had the opportunity to clearly win the starting job on the Texans this season and did not. The sort of RBBC stuff he is doing now is his best usage.

thunderkyss
12-14-2006, 11:08 AM
When healthy, I think Dayne is starter quality, but not for an entire game. I think he's got about 3 qtrs. in him max. After that (or before that--whatever), it's not like he totally sucks or anything but I'd want somebody else in there. This is all just my :twocents:

Nothing against RonDayne, but I agree..... I think we should start Dayne, let him beat up on the D for 3 Qtrs, then put a fresh Lundy in for the 4th.... he'd kill.

DC Texan
12-14-2006, 11:15 AM
The reason that no one has given him the job fulltime is because over the course of six years, three different organizations have decided that he does not have the ability to carry the fulltime load including the one he is with. Ron Dayne had the opportunity to clearly win the starting job on the Texans this season and did not. The sort of RBBC stuff he is doing now is his best usage.


Not true. In New York he fell out of starting contention when aked to be traded and did not report to Pre-season workouts, even though he told Jim Fassel he would. This is why he was de-activated for the season. Fassel was mad because he had planned to use Dayne significantly that year and then Dayne let him down. By the time Coughlin got there, Tikki had blown up and Dayne was only used for short yardage situations. Dayne is not a short yardage back hense him being traded to Denver.

At Denver he did make it to starting running back at the beginning of training camp this year, but injury held him out of training camp and he was traded because of the success of both the Bells.

When he came here he was still hurt but becuase of the Texans situation at Running Back and his familiarity with the system he was forced to start right away. Which brings us to now. He is as close to 100% as he has been all season and we all see the results.

ArlingtonTexan
12-14-2006, 12:24 PM
Not true. In New York he fell out of starting contention when aked to be traded and did not report to Pre-season workouts, even though he told Jim Fassel he would. This is why he was de-activated for the season. Fassel was mad because he had planned to use Dayne significantly that year and then Dayne let him down. By the time Coughlin got there, Tikki had blown up and Dayne was only used for short yardage situations. Dayne is not a short yardage back hense him being traded to Denver.

At Denver he did make it to starting running back at the beginning of training camp this year, but injury held him out of training camp and he was traded because of the success of both the Bells.

When he came here he was still hurt but becuase of the Texans situation at Running Back and his familiarity with the system he was forced to start right away. Which brings us to now. He is as close to 100% as he has been all season and we all see the results.

He was not traded to the Texans. He was cut, and we picked him up. Despite this error, I will take your word for his time in New york.

As for the rest of the post, so what you are saying is that Ron Dayne has never had the ability to beat out another RB for a starting job. Dayne has played two nice games (not great) this year and I am supposed to ignore 6 years of being a spare.

DayneBum
12-14-2006, 12:34 PM
He was not traded to the Texans. He was cut, and we picked him up. Despite this error, I will take your word for his time in New york.

As for the rest of the post, so what you are saying is that Ron Dayne has never had the ability to beat out another RB for a starting job. Dayne has played two nice games (not great) this year and I am supposed to ignore 6 years of being a spare.

No dont ignore the past 6yrs. But obvisouly u dont know the truth of the matter. Dayne was misused in every possible way in NYG. U dont give Dayne the ball 2times every 5 series and expect him to get 100ydrs a game. The way he won the heisman, is carring the ball 25-30times a game, pounding and wearing down defenses. He's not a power back, but runs with tremendous power when given the ball on a consistent basis. He's not the jerome Bettis type. You have to utlize a player to the best of there abilities, and thats exactly what denver and the Texans have/are doing. The Giants didnt do that at all unless Tiki wasnt playing due to injury.

thunderkyss
12-14-2006, 12:40 PM
He was not traded to the Texans. He was cut, and we picked him up. Despite this error, I will take your word for his time in New york.

As for the rest of the post, so what you are saying is that Ron Dayne has never had the ability to beat out another RB for a starting job. Dayne has played two nice games (not great) this year and I am supposed to ignore 6 years of being a spare.

he was running well(despite being injured) in our first three games.... if you look at his results & when he was asked to run, you can't say he didn't run well. If you look at his avg.... it'll look so-so, because of things like giving him the ball, and trying to run out the clock, or some other obvious run down situation(David just got sacked.... surely they won't pass(since they never do after David gets sacked)).....

he didn't run well against Miami, or Dallas, but from what I understand, no one has.

DC Texan
12-14-2006, 12:46 PM
Call it what you want. As I said before, give it the next few games and you will see what I am talking about. As far as the last 6 years, you can't forget them I just say take it for what it is worth. In a way BEFORE HE GOT HURT he did beat out Tatum Bell in Denver.

ArlingtonTexan
12-14-2006, 12:49 PM
No dont ignore the past 6yrs. But obvisouly u dont know the truth of the matter. Dayne was misused in every possible way in NYG. U dont give Dayne the ball 2times every 5 series and expect him to get 100ydrs a game. The way he won the heisman, is carring the ball 25-30times a game, pounding and wearing down defenses. He's not a power back, but runs with tremendous power when given the ball on a consistent basis. He's not the jerome Bettis type. You have to utlize a player to the best of there abilities, and thats exactly what denver and the Texans have/are doing. The Giants didnt do that at all unless Tiki wasnt playing due to injury.

The truth of the matter is that players earn starting positions by what they do on the field whether or not it is the best situation. Coaches don't just give players 20-25 carries when they don't do anything with 8. Maybe a tough break for Ron, but at end of the day, on the field he has NOT taken enough advantage of the chances he has been given in nearly seven full NFL seasons. Maybe the Texans get lucky, but I don't like betting the exception that a player all of a sudden gets it when he has been below average for year after year.

So you are right, I really don't care that the Gaints supposedly misused him.

DC Texan
12-14-2006, 12:59 PM
The truth of the matter is that players earn starting positions by what they do on the field whether or not it is the best situation. Coaches don't just give players 20-25 carries when they don't do anything with 8. Maybe a tough break for Ron, but at end of the day, on the field he has NOT taken enough advantage of the chances he has been given in nearly seven full NFL seasons. Maybe the Texans get lucky, but I don't like betting the exception that a player all of a sudden gets it when he has been below average for year after year.

So you are right, I really don't care that the Gaints supposedly misused him.


OK we all know that New York and RD did not work out. Point taken. Also, I could not agree with you more that the number of carries you get are earned and not just given to you. That is why he earned the right to get the majority of carries in Denver (i.e. Mike Anderson being traded) then he got injured. Now that he is here and healthy, you will also see the work load shift his way again..

HOU-TEX
12-14-2006, 01:28 PM
OK we all know that New York and RD did not work out. Point taken. Also, I could not agree with you more that the number of carries you get are earned and not just given to you. That is why he earned the right to get the majority of carries in Denver (i.e. Mike Anderson being traded) then he got injured. Now that he is here and healthy, you will also see the work load shift his way again..

I'm just being curious George here, but didn't Dayne miss practically the whole training camp in Denver? If so, how could he earn the right for more carries?:confused:

ArlingtonTexan
12-14-2006, 01:50 PM
OK we all know that New York and RD did not work out. Point taken. Also, I could not agree with you more that the number of carries you get are earned and not just given to you. That is why he earned the right to get the majority of carries in Denver (i.e. Mike Anderson being traded) then he got injured. Now that he is here and healthy, you will also see the work load shift his way again..

You just keep making my point. He did not earn the carries on the field. He was given the job in the OFF-SEASON and could not maintain it through training camp and the pre-season. Does it not seem strange that Dayne went from starter to cut based on an injury that was not even serious enough to keep him out of the first game with a new team?

Hey, as long as Dayne is in a Texans uniform I hope I am wrong, but call me underwhelmed by the thought of 2007 and Ron Dayne as the starting RB for the Houston Texans.

brncoz1fan
12-14-2006, 02:11 PM
You just keep making my point. He did not earn the carries on the field. He was given the job in the OFF-SEASON and could not maintain it through training camp and the pre-season. Does it not seem strange that Dayne went from starter to cut based on an injury that was not even serious enough to keep him out of the first game with a new team?

Hey, as long as Dayne is in a Texans uniform I hope I am wrong, but call me underwhelmed by the thought of 2007 and Ron Dayne as the starting RB for the Houston Texans.

For the record Dayne did not play his first came with the Texans until the Colts and didn't start until the game after that one. After the Raiders game Kubiak himself admitted that he wasn't completely healthy when he first got to Houston but is now.

I would rather you all quit debating it and send him back to Denver. We won't complain but I guess it doesn't work that way.

DayneBum
12-14-2006, 02:17 PM
For the record Dayne did not play his first came with the Texans until the Colts and didn't start until the game after that one. After the Raiders game Kubiak himself admitted that he wasn't completely healthy when he first got to Houston but is now.

I would rather you all quit debating it and send him back to Denver. We won't complain but I guess it doesn't work that way.

Hey longtime no speak....I been saying that since Dayne arrived here. HE WILL BE BACK IN DENVER NEXT YEAR. But depending on the rest of the games kubiak may just lock him up. But there is a 75% chance he'll be back out there. If he never got hurt, we wouldnt even be on this board discussing this.

brncoz1fan
12-14-2006, 02:22 PM
I'm just being curious George here, but didn't Dayne miss practically the whole training camp in Denver? If so, how could he earn the right for more carries?:confused:

Dayne was injured (turf toe) in the first pre-season game with Detroit. Not too long after that MIKE Bell was named starter. Denver kept Cobbs and Nash and released Dayne. Cobbs is out with a broken leg and Nash has done nothing. Tatum has been injured on and off all season (as usual) and Mike Bell had a couple moments in the pre-season that he looked to be a great RB and he has under performed this season.

Shanahan messed up by cutting Dayne but doubtful an egomaniac like him will ever admit to something like that.

DayneBum
12-14-2006, 02:37 PM
Dayne was injured (turf toe) in the first pre-season game with Detroit. Not too long after that MIKE Bell was named starter. Denver kept Cobbs and Nash and released Dayne. Cobbs is out with a broken leg and Nash has done nothing. Tatum has been injured on and off all season (as usual) and Mike Bell had a couple moments in the pre-season that he looked to be a great RB and he has under performed this season.

Shanahan messed up by cutting Dayne but doubtful an egomaniac like him will ever admit to something like that.

Oh of course i've never seen Mike Shanahan stutter so much in his press conference the way he has this season. He has been a man lost for words. And he knows it.

HOU-TEX
12-14-2006, 02:55 PM
Oh of course i've never seen Mike Shanahan stutter so much in his press conference the way he has this season. He has been a man lost for words. And he knows it.

Since we're having a Broncos fan reunion on our Texans board. Do y'all think the Broncos Offense is spiraling out of control due to the loss of Kubiak? Just a friendly inquiry.:)

ryansisgod
12-14-2006, 03:00 PM
Bottom line Dayne cannot help take the Texans to the playoffs at the main running back, maybe 3rd down RB but not as the featured back. he is past his prime, if there was ever one. He can help the Texans pick up some important 3rd downs but thats about it.

thunderkyss
12-14-2006, 03:02 PM
Shanahan messed up by cutting Dayne but doubtful an egomaniac like him will ever admit to something like that.

I honestly think Shanahan was doing his old buddy a big solid.

I don't think Dayne was ever really going to be the featured guy in Denver, but he was going to be used quite a bit in the offense. Naming Dayne the starter in TC, was just to get into Tatum's head.....

Mike Bell comes along, and surely he looks like he can replace Dayne.... Tatum was supposed to be the starting HB, and it showed after the regular season started. Tatum was running alot tougher than he had in the past.... & everyone was wondering how he'd do come November..... well, he had issues... & Mike Bell didn't hold up his end of the Bargain, otherwise Denver would be doing fine.

I think Dayne has been doing a great job since he has got here, considering the play of the big uglies in front of him. If our OL pulls it together..... Hogdon & Winston are the problems now..... Dayne can have one heck of a December.

dantem
12-14-2006, 03:25 PM
Dayne lacks the passion to be a starting back

You've got to be kidding....

HOU-TEX
12-14-2006, 03:28 PM
Here's a nice little read about Ron Dayne. Let's see what he can do for the remainder of the year.:yahoo:

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.php?PRKey=3202&section=Texans%20Insider

austintexanite
12-14-2006, 03:32 PM
I like Ron, but I don't think he can get the job done for a full season. He's been in the league for a while now, and we can get a RB in the first two rounds this year. Younger and not as much tread on the tires. He has been playing the last couple of games though.

thunderkyss
12-14-2006, 04:35 PM
I like Ron, but I don't think he can get the job done for a full season. He's been in the league for a while now, and we can get a RB in the first two rounds this year. Younger and not as much tread on the tires. He has been playing the last couple of games though.

But we need a Center, a FS, a DT, an OLB, a CB, and maybe a QB.

If I were making the call, and following conventional wisdom that the better player will be had in the earlier round.... I'd go CB, DT, OLB..... or DT, CB, OLB...

We've got Dayne & Gado, both who have had some success in the NFL. Lundy, & Taylor.... Lundy has shown that he can make an impact....

Just imagine how many games we could've won had Lee Evans didn't score twice on consecutive 83 yard passes..... if Stallworth wasn't running free in our secondary, if we could've held Brunnells to 21 of 22 passes, if we didn't have a LB bite on the same underneath route, leaving the TE open in the endzone on two consecutive drives(vs. Indy... )

SconnieGuy
12-14-2006, 06:02 PM
Call it what you want. As I said before, give it the next few games and you will see what I am talking about. As far as the last 6 years, you can't forget them I just say take it for what it is worth. In a way BEFORE HE GOT HURT he did beat out Tatum Bell in Denver.


There's no real crime in not being able to beat out Tiki Barber in a system that was designed for Tiki Barber. Dayne WAS totally misused in NY. He is not a cutback type runner with great breakaway speed like Tiki, and for the most part, everytime the Giants put him in there it was short yardage situations. The defenses knew exactly what play was coming. BTW, Tiki was considered a bust until the Giants drafted Dayne. Then everything just started to click for him.

Denver signed him as a FA, he did very well in limited action last year, and he had ascended to the starting role before getting hurt in camp. The Texans have the right system for him and the more carries he gets the better he'll run.