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Runner
12-05-2006, 07:12 PM
Last week's three win post resulted in very little raillery. However, I am still going to revisit the topic and examine the 4 win teams.

There are currently four teams with four wins. They are our Houston Texans, Cleveland, Washington, and Green Bay. How should they be racked and stacked?

First, Washington has already beat Houston so we know they should rank higher than we do. At first glance they and their record setting quarterback are far above the Texans; however David Carr matched that record later in the season and so narrowed the gap.

For the time being I think the Texans belong beneath Cleveland based solely on the Texans' pathetic performance and narrow victory against the two win Raiders. If the Texans are still tied with the Browns going into the last game of the season they will hold their destiny in their own hands and settle it on the field. This would be an exciting match-up for that reason.

This leaves Houston and Green Bay. Since Green Bay plays the Lions twice, and the Lions are as inept as the Raiders, I give the Texans a slight edge. This leaves the four win teams in this order:
1) Washington
2) Cleveland
3) Houston
4) Green Bay

If the Texans lose against the Titans this week, Arizona and Tampa Bay will have the opportunity to join the Texans with 4 wins. I don't know about Arizona at this point, but Tampa Bay is easy. As stated last week:

We beat Tampa Bay in the final game of the pre-season. Since it was the final game, it only proves that our second stringers, third stringers, and soon to be cuttees scored more points than their equivalent players did. That’s good enough for me! We are better than Tamp Bay.


If the Texans win they will move up to join these current five win teams if they lose on Sunday: Buffalo, Miami, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Minnesota, San Francisco, and St. Louis. That could be a long post.

Remember the badinage, and see you next week!

WiiBrawler
12-06-2006, 09:23 AM
Good Post!

whiskeyrbl
12-06-2006, 09:26 AM
Last week's three win post resulted in very little raillery. However, I am still going to revisit the topic and examine the 4 win teams.

There are currently four teams with four wins. They are our Houston Texans, Cleveland, Washington, and Green Bay. How should they be racked and stacked?

First, Washington has already beat Houston so we know they should rank higher than we do. At first glance they and their record setting quarterback are far above the Texans; however David Carr matched that record later in the season and so narrowed the gap.

For the time being I think the Texans belong beneath Cleveland based solely on the Texans' pathetic performance and narrow victory against the two win Raiders. If the Texans are still tied with the Browns going into the last game of the season they will hold their destiny in their own hands and settle it on the field. This would be an exciting match-up for that reason.

This leaves Houston and Green Bay. Since Green Bay plays the Lions twice, and the Lions are as inept as the Raiders, I give the Texans a slight edge. This leaves the four win teams in this order:
1) Washington
2) Cleveland
3) Houston
4) Green Bay

If the Texans lose against the Titans this week, Arizona and Tampa Bay will have the opportunity to join the Texans with 4 wins. I don't know about Arizona at this point, but Tampa Bay is easy. As stated last week:



If the Texans win they will move up to join these current five win teams if they lose on Sunday: Buffalo, Miami, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Philadelphia, Minnesota, San Francisco, and St. Louis. That could be a long post.

Remember the badinage, and see you next week!

Philly is 6-6

real
12-06-2006, 09:28 AM
1) Washington
2) Cleveland
3) Green Bay
4) Houston

There.......



Fixed it......

Texans Horror
12-06-2006, 09:40 AM
Here is how I would rank them:

1) Cleveland
2) Houston
3) Washington
4) Green Bay

Here's my reasoning: of the four four-wins teams, Cleveland is clearly the best in the NFL. They just beat KC in OT. I don't see any of the other three teams with that kind of fortitude. Also, they have beaten the Jets, a team the Texans could not run against. I rank Green Bay last mainly due to bias. I can't help it. They are an NFC team, and have wins against the Lions, Cards, and Fins. That's weak. You can't compare that to two wins against the Jags.

That leaves Texans vs. Skins. This was a hard pick. The Redskins beat the Texans earlier this year, so why rank the Texans above the 'Skins? Sure, there is the NFC bias, but it goes deeper than that. The Redskins beat the Texans in large part because Clinton Portis was able to run all over them. Without Portis, the Skins are pussycats. Also, they are on a downward curve, and, IMO, not playing near as well (even though they were not that good) as they played at the first of the season. The Texans have shown improvement over the course of the season.

However, I want to make it clear that the Redskins have a good case for being ranked higher than the Texans. Not only did they thump the Texans, but they have wins against the Jags, Boys, and Panthers.

This week will be a big week for all teams. Skins play the Eagles, Texans the Titans, Browns play the Steelers, and Green Bay plays the 49ers. Potentially, the Browns could move up because they play the Steelers this week. If that happens, expect the Texans to move up to being the BEST FOUR-WIN TEAM IN THE LEAGUE.

HOU-TEX
12-06-2006, 09:46 AM
1) Washington
2) Cleveland
3) Green Bay
4) Houston

......

I agree with this one. Green Bay lost against teams we would've lost to, but they beat the Vikings in Minnesota. So I'll give the edge to the Pack. :spy:

Runner
12-06-2006, 10:15 AM
Philly is 6-6

Good catch - I looked at the records before the Monday night game. Fixed.

Texans Horror
12-06-2006, 11:18 AM
The reason I don't give the edge to the cheeseheads is because they upset the Vikings. Most of the four-win teams have upset a team that was supposed to be a play-off contender at one point this year. Remember how red-hot the Jags started? The Texans upset them. For a while, it looked like the Texans might upset the Cowboys, too (and then they were demolished in the second half).

Texans Horror
12-06-2006, 11:19 AM
Good catch - I looked at the records before the Monday night game. Fixed.

Since when do Houston Texans mods have Titans avatars? Despicable...

Runner
12-06-2006, 11:24 AM
Since when do Houston Texans mods have Titans avatars? Despicable...

One man's despicable is another man's risible.

Texans Horror
12-06-2006, 11:31 AM
That is what is wrong with Houston football. Houston has so many people loyal to players (e.g., Vince Young, and in your case, Seth Wand), and not enough people loyal to the Texans. I wonder how many number 10 jerseys will be parading around the stadium this weekend.

Oh, well. If the Texans win (a miracle), it will put them in a whole other class of team: five-win teams, and I will rank them higher than the Tacks...

Runner
12-06-2006, 11:34 AM
I wonder how many number 10 jerseys will be parading around the stadium this weekend.


Bradlee Van Pelt? I'd guess not many.

cuppacoffee
12-06-2006, 12:11 PM
Since when do Houston Texans mods have Titans avatars? Despicable...

Not calling out anyone in particular, but:

Even our resident titans reporter (mc clain) stated in this mornings chronic (Wed) that these type of fans are appalling, and should be ashamed.

He even brought up the analogy that even the cowgirls fans who wanted Romo to start didn't cheer for the Texans when we played there and Bledsoe was still starting.

But many of our 'fans'(?) are rather clueless, make that extremely clueless, as to how a real fan of a team is supposed to act.

Even the titan supporter mc clain calls out our 'sorry fans' who will undoubtedly cheer against our team and support the opposition Sunday.

Hopefully the true Texan fans at the game :fans: will be able to drown out the crybabies :crying: during Sundays game.

Like he says in the article, if you are displeased, feel free to boo your team, but under no circumstances is cheering the opposition acceptable.

But I know this is falling on some deaf ears, we will know them by their responses.

:twocents:

McClains Article (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/mcclain/4382153.html)

:coffee:

whiskeyrbl
12-06-2006, 12:17 PM
Not calling out anyone in particular, but:

Even our resident titans reporter (mc clain) stated in this mornings chronic (Wed) that these type of fans are appalling, and should be ashamed.

He even brought up the analogy that even the cowgirls fans who wanted Romo to start didn't cheer for the Texans when we played there and Bledsoe was still starting.

But many of our 'fans'(?) are rather clueless, make that extremely clueless, as to how a real fan of a team is supposed to act.

Even the titan supporter mc clain calls out our 'sorry fans' who will undoubtedly cheer against our team and support the opposition Sunday.

Hopefully the true Texan fans at the game :fans: will be able to drown out the crybabies :crying: during Sundays game.

Like he says in the article, if you are displeased, feel free to boo your team, but under no circumstances is cheering the opposition acceptable.

But I know this is falling on some deaf ears, we will know them by their responses.

:twocents:

McClains Article (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/mcclain/4382153.html)

:coffee:

Kudos to McLain it's about time he showed a lil'Texan Pride. By the way My GF and I will be the pair in our DeMeco Jerseys (white and red) respectively. Good for Vince ... But it's time to meet Ryans Wrecking Crew

HOU-TEX
12-06-2006, 12:58 PM
Not calling out anyone in particular, but:

Even our resident titans reporter (mc clain) stated in this mornings chronic (Wed) that these type of fans are appalling, and should be ashamed.

He even brought up the analogy that even the cowgirls fans who wanted Romo to start didn't cheer for the Texans when we played there and Bledsoe was still starting.

But many of our 'fans'(?) are rather clueless, make that extremely clueless, as to how a real fan of a team is supposed to act.

Even the titan supporter mc clain calls out our 'sorry fans' who will undoubtedly cheer against our team and support the opposition Sunday.

Hopefully the true Texan fans at the game :fans: will be able to drown out the crybabies during Sundays game.

Like he says in the article, if you are displeased, feel free to boo your team, but under no circumstances is cheering the opposition acceptable.

But I know this is falling on some deaf ears, we will know them by their responses.


McClains Article (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/mcclain/4382153.html)

:coffee:

McLame :potkettle:

infantrycak
12-06-2006, 01:05 PM
Runner--the NFL uses strength of schedule to make a pecking order, hence the current projected draft positions:

5 Green Bay 4-8 .495
6 (1)Washington4-8 .516
7 Houston 4-8 .521
8 Cleveland 4-8 .531

Runner
12-06-2006, 01:08 PM
It'd be nice to draft no higher than seventh. That might actually be in the price/performance sweet spot.

Not that my thread is just about the draft order.

infantrycak
12-06-2006, 01:12 PM
It'd be nice to draft no higher than seventh. That might actually be in the price/performance sweet spot.

Not that my thread is just about the draft order.

I realize you weren't speaking about draft order but the reasoning behind the draft order is you are a better team if you have a tie record against better competition.

TSgt.Texan
12-06-2006, 02:13 PM
So maybe we are the best of some of the worst teams in the league:yahoo:

Texans Horror
12-06-2006, 02:27 PM
Not counting the five-win teams, who are currently better losers than the Texans.

Runner
12-07-2006, 08:06 AM
Since when do Houston Texans mods have Titans avatars? Despicable...

That is what is wrong with Houston football. Houston has so many people loyal to players (e.g., Vince Young, and in your case, Seth Wand), and not enough people loyal to the Texans. I wonder how many number 10 jerseys will be parading around the stadium this weekend.


In light of your criticism I have decided to add myself to my ignore list. I will leave me there for two weeks. I'll remove myself from my list at that time and see if I have gotten any better.

Satisfied?

Malloy
12-07-2006, 08:21 AM
In light of your criticism I have decided to add myself to my ignore list. I will leave me there for two weeks. I'll remove myself from my list at that time and see if I have gotten any better.

Satisfied?

How often do you read your own stuff anyway ? :)

thunderkyss
12-07-2006, 08:32 AM
Runner--the NFL uses strength of schedule to make a pecking order, hence the current projected draft positions:

5 Green Bay 4-8 .495
6 (1)Washington4-8 .516
7 Houston 4-8 .521
8 Cleveland 4-8 .531

That's pretty much the way I'd rank them....

1. Houston
2. Cleveland
3. Washington
4. Greenbay

We played poorly against the 'Skins......... but we aren't a worse team. Not now........ I think we are playing better than they are, and their team is more divided.

Same thing with Greenbay. I don't think there are many teams that are more divided than Greenbay........ they're trying to kick out thier HOF QB.

Cleveland may actually be a better team....... with Charlie Frye. & though Anderson looked good...... I can't rate the team better than the Texans after seeing him play 1 Qtr.

Runner
12-07-2006, 09:06 AM
How often do you read your own stuff anyway ? :)

Frequently. I'm enthralled with my own belly button.

HOU-TEX
12-07-2006, 11:09 AM
That's pretty much the way I'd rank them....

1. Houston
2. Cleveland
3. Washington
4. Greenbay

We played poorly against the 'Skins......... but we aren't a worse team. Not now........ I think we are playing better than they are, and their team is more divided.

Same thing with Greenbay. I don't think there are many teams that are more divided than Greenbay........ they're trying to kick out thier HOF QB.

Cleveland may actually be a better team....... with Charlie Frye. & though Anderson looked good...... I can't rate the team better than the Texans after seeing him play 1 Qtr.

We're playing worse than any of those teams. I might give you Green Bay, but after the offensive display against the Raiders....Nah, we're at the bottom.:tearup:

Frequently. I'm enthralled with my own belly button.

That's funny stuff right there. First thing that came to mind was a baby trying to look down at his/her belly button and falling over doing so.

I'm not comparing you to a baby either.

Malloy
12-07-2006, 11:09 AM
Frequently. I'm enthralled with my own belly button.

Since you present your thoughts in writing here, I expect pictures posted of that belly button too!

Texans Horror
12-07-2006, 04:42 PM
I was hoping this wasn't that kind of website...

rafterticket
12-08-2006, 01:29 AM
If the Texans win they will move up to join these current five win teams if they lose on Sunday: Buffalo, Miami, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Minnesota, San Francisco, and St. Louis. That could be a long post.

Remember the badinage, and see you next week!

This thread is beneath your post history. Best of the worst? This is gravitating towards accepting our position as a bottom tier team.

We are a bottom tier team. I do not accept it, and demand a better product in the very near future.

If you wanted to start a speculative thread, how about which hole in this team do we fill first? The secondary? The O-line? A decent RB? The QB? Another DeMeco? Or two?

Come on, man. You are better than this. Those are teams that have their own problems similar to ours. All of them should only be searching for their answers, and we shouldn't be speculating which has the deepest hole.

Runner
12-08-2006, 07:03 AM
This thread is beneath your post history.

Yes it is! I'm glad someone finally brought that out into the open. These threads were my attempt to insert a little levity into the board. A lot of people need to lighten up.

I left hints...

Last week's three win post resulted in very little raillery.
...

Remember the badinage, and see you next week!

From my 3 win post last week:
Please consider persiflage in response to this post.

raillery
1.good-humored ridicule; banter. 2.a bantering remark.

badinage
1.light, playful banter or raillery. 2.to banter with or tease (someone) playfully.

persiflage
1.light, bantering talk or writing. 2.a frivolous or flippant style of treating a subject.

rafterticket
12-08-2006, 11:40 AM
Oh, geez! You nailed me! I was taking this WAY too seriously!

I also failed to have my Merriam-Webster online dictionary and thesaurus open in another window.

On with the repartee!

Runner
12-08-2006, 01:51 PM
I'm glad you said something - I was down to jocularity and mirth and was not looking foward to writing next week's installment.

HJam72
12-08-2006, 01:57 PM
We are a bottom tier team. I do not accept it...


We suck, but I don't believe it either. :ok:

Insideop
12-08-2006, 02:21 PM
Yes it is! I'm glad someone finally brought that out into the open. These threads were my attempt to insert a little levity into the board. A lot of people need to lighten up.

I left hints...



From my 3 win post last week:


raillery1.good-humored ridicule; banter. 2.a bantering remark.

badinage
1.light, playful banter or raillery. 2.to banter with or tease (someone) playfully.

persiflage1.light, bantering talk or writing. 2.a frivolous or flippant style of treating a subject.


Wow! And I thought you were just the typical poster who can't spell! :rolleyes: Sorry Runner, my bad! lol:

Texans Horror
12-10-2006, 05:43 PM
Well, this stinks. Cleveland lost, and the Texans lost, so the best four-win teams still include them and Washington. If Green Bay loses, that moves them out, and if the Cardinals win, that pushes them in, but I'm not ready to call the Cardinals the best four-win team.

I was really hoping Cleveland would win because, by my count, the Texans would be the best four-win team if Cleveland lost.

Which is better, though - a mauling by Pitt (Browns) or edged out by the Titans? I think I'm going to have to call it even:

1. Cleveland (tie)
1. Houston (tie)
2. Washington
3. Green Bay
4. Arizona

I am assuming that GB loses and the Cards win. Since this is the Cards first week in the best-four-win-team category, I am going to have to wait to see more. However, a win over Seattle is hube, and just my nudge them to the number two spot, IMO. We'll have to see how the game turns out.