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Dr. Toro
11-04-2006, 11:30 PM
Stoops trying to be a genius when he could punt the ball away to the A&M 20 and give them 1:00 to try to move the ball with their stymied passing attack.

Franchione thinking it's the 2005 clock rules and kicking the field goal and giving the ball back to OU with 3:00 left. These guys had it backwards... it was 4 down, score a TD territory for A&M and 3 runs and a punt territory for OU.

bah007
11-04-2006, 11:33 PM
Yea but Aggy had a 4th & 8.

They werent gonna run for 8 on one play & they sure as heck werent gonna pass for 8. Absolutely NO passing game for Aggy.

They shoulda been running once they got inside the 25 but they started passing & couldnt move the ball.

Give credit to Stoops. He has guts.

bah007
11-04-2006, 11:42 PM
If Lane is such a beast why does Fran only give him the ball 13 times. Ridiculous.

He should be wearing down the D with Lane & then throw in Goodson for a big play.

Lane: 13 touches, 62 yds - 4.8 avg
Goodson: 12 touches (2 rec), 136 yds (7 rec)- 11.3 avg
McGee: 31 touches (19 pass, 12 rush), 105 yds (61 pass, 44 rush), INT - 3.4 avg (pathetic for a QB)

The two stud RBs should be getting the ball way more than that.

Dr. Toro
11-04-2006, 11:45 PM
Right, not sure if the miscalculation was on 4th or the preceding downs, but that was 4 down territory. With the strenght of the OU running game and the weakness of the A&M passing game, trying to get the ball back and score twice made no sense.

Stoops has guts, but that was a bad decision... just seems like a risk not worth taking. I don't think going all in on 4th down makes much sense when you're winning. McGee couldn't hit the broadside of a barn and they had a minute left. 99/100 coaches punt there. But Stoops is Stoops.

bah007
11-04-2006, 11:53 PM
Right, not sure if the miscalculation was on 4th or the preceding downs, but that was 4 down territory. With the strenght of the OU running game and the weakness of the A&M passing game, trying to get the ball back and score twice made no sense.

Stoops has guts, but that was a bad decision... just seems like a risk not worth taking. I don't think going all in on 4th down makes much sense when you're winning. McGee couldn't hit the broadside of a barn and they had a minute left. 99/100 coaches punt there. But Stoops is Stoops.

Stoops had a good point after the game.

What kind of message would he be sending his O if he didnt think they could get 1 inch?

I hate Stoops (Im a UT fan) but I think he made the right call. They have like a 90% of getting that 1 inch, & they prob have a 89.9% of keeping A&M out of field goal range.

bah007
11-04-2006, 11:54 PM
I put that game on Fran.

If not him, then whoever called the plays at the end of the game.

If you have 60 passing yds & 220 rush yds then there is no reason that you should throw the ball in crunch time. They had plenty of time to run on every play & still get in the endzone.

Roughnecks
11-05-2006, 12:07 AM
It's on Fran he has final say on the play. I just do not see why if you are inside the 5 and it is third down you do not try to run the ball twice with Lane instead he decides to pass. OU could think lane was going to get the ball all they wanted I like his chances, really since their was no wideouts open all game why try to pass near the endzone. If the Aggies lose their next two games anybody think Fran will be back giving his record against OU, UT an Nebraska.

YoungTexanFan
11-05-2006, 12:10 AM
My outsiders perspective:

Either Fran needs to go, or your OC needs to go. I think both need to go, but IDK if you would do that. McGee is not McNeil and he is not made for this offense. He is even more of a pocket passer than McCoy. He was recruited because he can throw the football, let him throw. The offense of ATM sucks, but this loss is on Fran.

bah007
11-05-2006, 12:11 AM
It's on Fran he has final say on the play. I just do not see why if you are inside the 5 and it is third down you do not try to run the ball twice with Lane instead he decides to pass. OU could think lane was going to get the ball all they wanted I like his chances, really since their was no wideouts open all game why try to pass near the endzone. If the Aggies lose their next two games anybody think Fran will be back giving his record against OU, UT an Nebraska.

Im a biased UT fan but I just dont see the Aggies beating UT.

They might have a shot against Nebraska (its a home game right?).

I thought he shoulda been fired last year but who knows?

You have to play to your strengths & Fran just doesnt know how to do that.

bah007
11-05-2006, 12:17 AM
My outsiders perspective:

Either Fran needs to go, or your OC needs to go. I think both need to go, but IDK if you would do that. McGee is not McNeil and he is not made for this offense. He is even more of a pocket passer than McCoy. He was recruited because he can throw the football, let him throw. The offense of ATM sucks, but this loss is on Fran.

The A&M offense doesnt suck. They cant pass at all.

But they lead the Big 12 in rushing (214 per game), are 4th with 431 total yds per game, & average 33 points per game.

kastofsna
11-05-2006, 12:19 AM
that was an odd ending.

Titan "Tack" Fan
11-05-2006, 12:32 AM
A&M sucks either way

TexansLucky13
11-05-2006, 01:18 AM
I was on the sidelines for the game.

Fran lost his job tonight. He called for a passing play on the 3rd and 2 at the goal, which turned out to be overthrown by McGee (who was playing terrible tonight). 4th and 2 comes up and BAM..... a FG in the 4th quarter when we are behind more than 3. He could have given it to Jorvorskie Lane any time on those two plays and we would be talking about how great the win was for the Aggies.

If you play conservatively and fail, you will lose your job eventually. He really needs to figure something out. We have so much talent on the team but they are nothing without a coaching staff that can be a little risky sometimes.

P.S. - I was about 20 feet from Lee Corso for the entirety of the game. We were not very happy with him today.

bah007
11-05-2006, 01:36 AM
I was on the sidelines for the game.

Fran lost his job tonight. He called for a passing play on the 3rd and 2 at the goal, which turned out to be overthrown by McGee (who was playing terrible tonight). 4th and 2 comes up and BAM..... a FG in the 4th quarter when we are behind more than 3. He could have given it to Jorvorskie Lane any time on those two plays and we would be talking about how great the win was for the Aggies.

If you play conservatively and fail, you will lose your job eventually. He really needs to figure something out. We have so much talent on the team but they are nothing without a coaching staff that can be a little risky sometimes.

P.S. - I was about 20 feet from Lee Corso for the entirety of the game. We were not very happy with him today.

Its good to be optomistic but dont kid yourself. Nobody expected A&M to be as far along as they are right now. They are probably gonna finish with 8 wins (maybe 9).

This offense was built for next season or the season after. Next year:
McGee will be a Jr.
Lane will be a Jr.
Goodson will be a Soph.
Bennett will be a Jr.

Fran still needs to go tho. He is holding this team back.

I fully expect A&M's rushing attack to be scary next year. Not scary enough to beat my Longhorns, but good enough to beat OU maybe.

Ckw
11-05-2006, 04:16 AM
Was at the game tonight. A couple of notes. One: In the entire first half we did not pass on first down the entire time. Two: Fran finally decides to mix it up a little more in the second half, but uh oh, McGee just isn't on giving Fran no time to make any adjustments as we are already behind. Numerous times McGee had time to throw the ball down field and he showed a total lack of composure. I am very disappointed with McGee. Three: Were were down by4, could go up by three with a TD, and what does Fran do, after McGee had been goofing off the hole game and rattled everytime Oklahoma blitzed, Fran decides to pass!!!!! He is a complete *****. I'm sorry, but I am a long time A&M fan and am sad to say, I hope we lose the next two days just so I don't have to watch my team get coached by that conservative loser Dennis Franchione. YOU DON'T PASS ON 3RD AND 2!!!! Sorry I'm just really ticked. We had the game won. Mike Goodson, our freshman running back, looked awesome and our future looks so bright. And Fran's playcalling blew it. I want him gone...

Ckw
11-05-2006, 04:23 AM
Also, I must give props to A&M defense. Oklahoma ran all over us in the first half, yet in the second half, they couldn't do anything. Chris Harrington looked like a stud and a guy I would love to see in a Texans uniform. He plays as hard as any guy I've ever seen, is quick, strong, agile, and gets to the quarterback. Justin Warren also looked great and I definitely believe the Texans should pay attention to him. Other than the costly 8 yard run our D gave up towards the end of the game, they did spectacular. Coach Fran lost this game for us. All we needed was that one touchdown. And he settled for a field goal.....

Please_Evolve
11-07-2006, 03:26 PM
He's had success everywhere else...that's what i don't get. I just think the move to A&M has him dumbed down some.

TexanSam
11-07-2006, 08:16 PM
P.S. - I was about 20 feet from Lee Corso for the entirety of the game. We were not very happy with him today.

Was it because he was obnoxious or because he chose the Sooners?

TexansLucky13
11-07-2006, 08:48 PM
Was it because he was obnoxious or because he chose the Sooners?

Both. The only reason I didn't throw a chair in his general direction is for two reasons.

1) That would not be a great decision on my part
2) He looks like Mel Brooks.... whom I idolize

TxAg
11-08-2006, 09:40 AM
ALL I CAN SAY IS TU will never forget J TRAIN he ran all over them last year and will finish the job this year :yawn:




BTHOTU

bah007
11-08-2006, 11:45 AM
ALL I CAN SAY IS TU will never forget J TRAIN he ran all over them last year and will finish the job this year :yawn:




BTHOTU

Yeah have fun with that.

UT only gave up 109 yds on 4.4 yds per carry to Peterson.

A&M gave up 173 yds on 5.4 yds per carry to his back-up.

Texas is ranked 106 against the pass (cuz of the Tech game) & #2 against the run.

And since A&M has no passing game it seems unlikely that they will be able to run on Texas.

run-david-run
11-10-2006, 12:36 AM
ALL I CAN SAY IS TU will never forget J TRAIN he ran all over them last year and will finish the job this year :yawn:




BTHOTU
And we still about doubled your score...

bah007
11-10-2006, 12:43 AM
This doesn't make sense. Of course a biased UT fan wouldn't see the Aggies beating UT. That should go without saying and borders on being repetitive.:tease:

I meant that I am a Horns fan.

But even if I wasnt, I wouldnt think Aggy has any chance of winning.

TxAg
11-10-2006, 12:50 AM
If the Aggies would have used J Train more when on goal line we would for sure have won he was having a great game . As for TU they remmeber J train very well if it was not:marionaner: for VY saving them last year the Aggies would have won that game BTHOTU

bah007
11-10-2006, 12:55 AM
If the Aggies would have used J Train more when on goal line we would for sure have won he was having a great game . As for TU they remmeber J train very well if it was not:marionaner: for VY saving them last year the Aggies would have won that game BTHOTU

Shoulda, coulda, woulda....

But, if...

Texas won.

Unless your a pshycic you dont know if they woula won last year.