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nunusguy
10-30-2006, 08:57 AM
If it gets to the place where Kubiak wants to bench Carr for the season,
its got to cross his mind that his boss, Bob McNair, will ask him that question. And remind him that his reply that the Kubiak could make it work with Carr
was one of the main reasons he got his HC job with the Texans.
And in addition, McNair passed up the greatest marketing opportunity any
sports franchise owner has ever had by not drafting Houston native Vince Young. Not to mention his apparent potential as a successful QB.
Lot of politics involved here.

Honoring Earl 34
10-30-2006, 09:02 AM
He told McNair what he wanted to hear . You can't blame a guy for trying .

Kaiser Toro
10-30-2006, 09:14 AM
I would like to think that Kubiak's and McNair's main mission is to field a winning team. Yesterday was a gigantic step in that mission in my opinion. We will soon see what Carr has to offer this team. If he is not up to it, the rebuilding process has already begun due to a terrific draft. Yesterday gave me and many a taste of optimism as failure is apparently an option not a method.

Honoring Earl 34
10-30-2006, 09:23 AM
The problem is , who is going to certify that its a duck . It may look , quack , waddle , and drop its junebug like a duck but who gets final say about calling it a duck .

It will take some real guts to pull the plug on this little getting timeout session and start Sage because of the VY backlash ... Reggie's kinda outa of the picture now . If they start Sage they better win and Mario better be lights out .

Blake
10-30-2006, 09:53 AM
I would like to see us trade Carr for a 2nd round pick (Which I know he is worth) then grab a QB like Stanton in the 2nd, or Kolb in the 3rd. Let him sit for a year or 2 while we have Sage, and build up a QB the right way. Not trial by fire.

thinking like this makes me sick that we passed on Vince.

Double Barrel
10-30-2006, 09:56 AM
I think Kubiak will keep testing Carr for the rest of this season. And that's what we've seen this season, Kubiak evaluating our starting QB to see if he really has what it takes to lead this team to the playoffs and beyond.

Kubiak is not going to hitch his wagon (career) to a horse (Carr) that won't pull it. Trust me. Kubiak is much more dynamic and driven than to allow a marketing-obsessed owner to dictate who to play.

Carr will have another big test against the Giants next weekend. Kubiak wants to know how he'll respond to the challenge of competition and the heat of being benched. I have no doubt that if Carr fails to be consistent and driven this season, he'll be playing for some other team next season.

DarkNinja
10-30-2006, 10:07 AM
If it gets to the place where Kubiak wants to bench Carr for the season,
its got to cross his mind that his boss, Bob McNair, will ask him that question. And remind him that his reply that the Kubiak could make it work with Carr
was one of the main reasons he got his HC job with the Texans.
And in addition, McNair passed up the greatest marketing opportunity any
sports franchise owner has ever had by not drafting Houston native Vince Young. Not to mention his apparent potential as a successful QB.
Lot of politics involved here.



Oh my did someone understand my theory on why V. Young should be our QB?? (In earlier post) Hmm, I think LP Stadium was covered with how many #10 jerseys?? Oh gee, that money could have spent 3 times that amount just between Houston and Austin. But I guess McNair, Casserly, and Kubes didn't want that BIG of a market to be the face of the team. Would have made alot more money than R. Bush jerseys bought with FEMA money! Oh yeah there are some politics here that the administrative staff don't won't to mention. :lightbulb:

phan1
10-30-2006, 10:08 AM
He told McNair what he wanted to hear . You can't blame a guy for trying .

Yeah, I guess you want the job 1st. Deal with Carr 2nd.

phan1
10-30-2006, 10:12 AM
Oh my did someone understand my theory on why V. Young should be our QB?? (In earlier post) Hmm, I think LP Stadium was covered with how many #10 jerseys?? Oh gee, that money could have spent 3 times that amount just between Houston and Austin. But I guess McNair, Casserly, and Kubes didn't want that BIG of a market to be the face of the team. Would have made alot more money than R. Bush jerseys bought with FEMA money! Oh yeah there are some politics here that the administrative staff don't won't to mention. :lightbulb:

Sorry, but I like it when teams make personnel decisions based on putting a winning team together. Maybe you should become an Arizona Cardinals fan? They have a nack for going where the money is. New Orleans is a good option too.

TexanSam
10-30-2006, 10:55 AM
What I don't understand is why the Texans extended David Carr's contract 3 years, when they had a 2 year option. I'm a David Carr supporter and I think he will succeed, but I still thought it was odd for them to give him 3 more years.

thunderkyss
10-30-2006, 11:06 AM
What I don't understand is why the Texans extended David Carr's contract 3 years, when they had a 2 year option. I'm a David Carr supporter and I think he will succeed, but I still thought it was odd for them to give him 3 more years.

Same reason we put the option in in the first place. He has the measurables to be a very good NFL QB. If he was a probowl QB in his first 4 years, we could have locked him up for another 3 at a bargain, relatively speaking.

If Kubiak is able to make him the next Elway(or whatever Kubiak is supposed to make him), $8 million is cheap.

cbnjwill
10-30-2006, 11:11 AM
dude i know you didnt say the next elway..... you better hope atleast for the next jake plummer. elway one of the greatest ever the only hope carr has to be that good would be on playstation.

SESupergenius
10-30-2006, 11:17 AM
Young was by far not impressive yesterday, their offense didn't do much at all against one of the worst defenses in the league. This comparision win of Vincy Young couldn't be farther from the truth. We also passed on many good QB's throughout the years. I agree that drafting VY would have been a marketing success, but really, where were you after Carr beat the Jags?

hollywood_texan
10-30-2006, 11:29 AM
where were you after Carr beat the Jags?

Carr didn't beat the Jags all by himself. He had a nice game though.

The defense played great in the first half and gave the offense a short field several times in the second half to put the game out of reach.

Not to mention, the Jags didn't have their tough DT and had a QB playing on 1 leg.

Johnny Utah
10-30-2006, 11:44 AM
Kubiak can easily get out of his statement simply by making another one. All he has to tell McNair is that he still thinks he can win with Carr, but Sage gives us a better chance to win.

Stampede
10-30-2006, 12:50 PM
Kubiak can easily get out of his statement simply by making another one. All he has to tell McNair is that he still thinks he can win with Carr, but Sage gives us a better chance to win.

That should work. :popcorn:

HoustonFrog
10-30-2006, 12:58 PM
My whole theory, if anyone cares, is that Carr has a ceiling, after 5 years, as a "good" QB. He will have one really good game with some horrible ones and that is what you get. If you can get him to manage a game then the other talent can take over. However, that isn't going to work for the Texans and we still aren't sure if the "good" can become consistent. As we saw yesterday, you can have a guy like Sage who can stay calm under pressure and make the necessary plays. His pocket presence was noticeably different than Carrs...they way he slid in the pocket, etc. The Texans should have and now should draft a guy they want to groom. They need someone that can lead. I'm sorry but this experiment will continuously keep blowing up in the Texan's face if they keep pressing it.

NATHANHALE
11-27-2006, 03:39 AM
never mind

Marcus
11-27-2006, 09:59 AM
Kubiak is not going to hitch his wagon (career) to a horse (Carr) that won't pull it. Trust me. Kubiak is much more dynamic and driven than to allow a marketing-obsessed owner to dictate who to play.
Marketing-obsessed? Dude, if McNair were marketing obsessed, he would have drafted Vince Young in a heartbeat. He admitted as much on a TV interview. (I'll try to find a link if you want) He also said that if he just did what the fans wanted, he would have taken Vince.

Now, he must be a better man than me, because if it were me that owned the Texans, I would have probably knuckled under and succumbed to the fan and media pressure, and said, "Here! If you want him so bad, OK fine, I'll go against what I think is my better judgement on how to put a winning football team on the field, and go ahead and draft Vince, just to call the dogs off!"

But this owner doesn't give a tinkers damn about marketing. Now, you may think I'm crazy for saying this, But I kinda respect that.

TPIMP
11-27-2006, 10:53 AM
What I don't understand is why the Texans extended David Carr's contract 3 years, when they had a 2 year option. I'm a David Carr supporter and I think he will succeed, but I still thought it was odd for them to give him 3 more years.

Becuase he didn't promise we would win with Carr this season. This is the first year of a rebuilding project.

Hervoyel
11-27-2006, 11:01 AM
Gary Kubiak may have told Bob McNair that he could win with David Carr and I'm sure that it factored into his getting the job. I seriously doubt that McNair expects his coach to stand by those words even if he learns this year that they're not true. Watching film of David Carr is different than coaching and working with David Carr on a daily basis.

Bob McNair knows this I'm sure and if Gary Kubiak met with him following the season and said "Bob, this isn't going to work. I literally had no idea he was like that..." then we'd be looking for a new QB in no time.

the wonger need food
11-27-2006, 11:05 AM
There's too much at stake politically and financially. I think everyone (excluding the fans) gets a reprieve until that contract extension is over. The sad part is, we now have no chance at fielding a winning team until 2009.

Kaiser Toro
11-27-2006, 11:06 AM
What is becoming apparent is that Dan Reeves is not your guy for evaluating NFL QB's as he could not win the big one with Elway and thinks that Vick and Carr are franchise guys that can lead a team to a Super Bowl.

I am incredibly sour at this point on our team's future on the offensive side of the field and hope we do not spend one dollar in the name of "helping David," any longer.

Second Honeymoon
11-27-2006, 11:11 AM
If it gets to the place where Kubiak wants to bench Carr for the season,
its got to cross his mind that his boss, Bob McNair, will ask him that question. And remind him that his reply that the Kubiak could make it work with Carr
was one of the main reasons he got his HC job with the Texans.
And in addition, McNair passed up the greatest marketing opportunity any
sports franchise owner has ever had by not drafting Houston native Vince Young. Not to mention his apparent potential as a successful QB.
Lot of politics involved here.

Of course Kubiak said he could win with Carr. That was an unspoken prerequisite for getting the job. McNair has this man-crush on Carr and his squeaky clean image and the regime doesnt want to admit that they made a mistake with the first overall pick of the franchise. Billionaires arent used to being wrong much less having to admit it in public.

David is a joke and passing on Vince could end up being one of the biggest mistakes in NFL HISTORY!!! I am sure if David Carr was black he would have been run out of town long ago, but some of you homers are just so in love with Carr and his good ole boy image, that you can't even deal with reality.

Being a Texans fan right about now is just embarassing.

If Carr is brought back next year and continues to show no ability to win football games, both HE AND KUBIAK need to get the hell out of town. Imagine what the team would be like if we would have gotten VY instead.....but of course that is impossible, we all know that McNair and his Aggie head coach doent draft Longhorns.....

Get rid of the garbage - get rid of Carr

p.s. Something tells me that if Sage doesnt break his arm making that tackle yesterday, that the Sage era may have started yesterday.....just my opinion

much love,
Doug From The Woodlands

Second Honeymoon
11-27-2006, 11:18 AM
What is becoming apparent is that Dan Reeves is not your guy for evaluating NFL QB's as he could not win the big one with Elway and thinks that Vick and Carr are franchise guys that can lead a team to a Super Bowl.

I am incredibly sour at this point on our team's future on the offensive side of the field and hope we do not spend one dollar in the name of "helping David," any longer.

Honest and frank moderators are a good thing for any message board. Obviously bringing in Reeves was nothing more than just a rubber stamp for McNair to pickup Lil' Davey's option. Any moron could have seen that Carr lacked the football intellect and had inherent flaws in his fundamentals that would prevent him from amounting to anythign other than a career journeyman. Reeves just needed a paycheck and McNair needed a rubber stamp. They got what they needed and never spoke to one another again.

As for Kubiak, he is an aggie, so you have to break things down really simple to him. You see Mr. Kubiak, Carr is not a good QB. You can dress him up and fix him up all you want but he will never good. In Aggie terms, you can put lipstick on a pig but its still a pig. I can't stand the current regime and both Kubiak and Carr can go jump in a lake for all I care. Pathetic coaching and QB play has been a constant throughout the history of our franchise...just par for the course

Double Barrel
11-27-2006, 11:20 AM
Marketing-obsessed? Dude, if McNair were marketing obsessed, he would have drafted Vince Young in a heartbeat. He admitted as much on a TV interview. (I'll try to find a link if you want) He also said that if he just did what the fans wanted, he would have taken Vince.

Nothing is bigger in marketing than winning. McNair believes that Kubiak is the HC to make this team a winner. Obviously the head coach is a bigger factor in an owner's decision than drafting a QB.

Nice try, but our owner is still big on marketing angles. The name of the team speaks for itself. :ok:

Honoring Earl 34
11-27-2006, 11:23 AM
Mr Honeymoon , I am a stirct anti Carr guy . I do not know of any player in sports history that has been given the cushion he has . I think charm gets you by for about 15 minutes and then you better do something like win . I think the players in the locker room know this to a man ... but hey he's a good guy .

Having said this I think the big Carr sucks signature is probably a little to much hate . As sad as it is its important to try to keep some sort of pride .:twocents:

Second Honeymoon
11-27-2006, 11:25 AM
There's too much at stake politically and financially. I think everyone (excluding the fans) gets a reprieve until that contract extension is over. The sad part is, we now have no chance at fielding a winning team until 2009.

I feel they could make the move after this year without a doubt. The longer they wait the more it becomes Carr v. Young. If they flip the script and run Lil' Davey out of town they can then negate the debate and diminish the political aspects of everything.

We don't need to spend a 1st round pick on a QB either. We just need to go out and get a capable veteran QB to help us get this ship on the right path. There are a few backups out there that would salivate at the thought of working with our talent on offense. We have talent on offense. Don't believe the Carr homers. The talent is there. Trust me.

Doug from the woodlands

Second Honeymoon
11-27-2006, 11:30 AM
Mr Honeymoon , I am a stirct anti Carr guy . I do not know of any player in sports history that has been given the cushion he has . I think charm gets you by for about 15 minutes and then you better do something like win . I think the players in the locker room know this to a man ... but hey he's a good guy .

Having said this I think the big Carr sucks signature is probably a little to much hate . As sad as it is its important to try to keep some sort of pride .:twocents:

Duly noted.

kcwilson
11-27-2006, 11:36 AM
And in addition, McNair passed up the greatest marketing opportunity any
sports franchise owner has ever had by not drafting Houston native Vince Young.

The greatest LOCAL marketing opportunity, right? I don't see ESPN's lips firmly attached to Vince's butt... those, my friend, belong to the lord and savior, Sir Reginald Bush, of the San Diego Free Housing Cooperative Bush's.

Honoring Earl 34
11-27-2006, 11:38 AM
Thanks SH for not biting my head off .

I see Carr like the kid in Little League who's dads the coach . He plays SS and pitches no matter what and even though their record stinks ... Junior is going to pitch .

Honoring Earl 34
11-27-2006, 11:42 AM
Marketing lets see who's on TV ... Manning , Brady , and Mcnabb . Why is that , my guess is they are in a highly visible position and win . These are'nt local spots either it goes with the territory .

Second Honeymoon
11-27-2006, 11:43 AM
Thanks SH for not biting my head off .

I see Carr like the kid in Little League who's dads the coach . He plays SS and pitches no matter what and even though their record stinks ... Junior is going to pitch .

Wow, that is a great comparison. I am a baseball umpire by profession and when I do little league games, you would not believe how much nepotism and cronyism there is on the field....even if its detrimental to the team as a whole. The coach's son myth is not a myth....its a fact and a good analogy for our current Carr situation.

Doug ftw

Honoring Earl 34
11-27-2006, 11:46 AM
I was told I was the fairest coach that my parents had seen . My kid is the only one who did'nt like that .

titan hater
11-27-2006, 11:56 AM
I must admit I thought Carr was going to become a good QB, hence, I thought that drafting VY would have been a mistake. I was soooo wrong! Carr has the physical tools...The problem is between his ears! Way too many check downs...In fact, most often he does not even look down feild. I wish now that they would have taken VY or Leinert, or even Cutler! Of course, they would need a productive Oline, but at least they would try to make some plays. Frankly, I am tired of seeing the slant pass...What ever happened to the GO route. I know I have seen it during some games (other teams). How about a crossing pattern that is used as a decoy for the TE going down feild? Carr is playing scared...This he could get over if he ever learned to survey the entire feild rather then looking at one reciever during each play.

I say test the trade waters the year with DC and get a couple of FA olinemen in hear....Of Course we could also use a RB that has a little talent as well...Sorry for the rant but I am just so frustrated I could screem!!!

Mr. White
11-27-2006, 12:01 PM
CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT

I think that keeping David Carr as starter was a prerequisite for Kubiak or anyone else that McNair interviewed.

I remember reading in the Chronic that McNair and company all met with 7 NFL guys that all said that Carr could win a Super Bowl. This was January.

I remember reading later that the "7 NFL guys" were interviewees for the HC job. It stands to reason that if the 7 NFL guys will say anything they think the owner wants to hear.

Honoring Earl 34
11-27-2006, 12:03 PM
They also told Bob to draft a kicker first in their fantasy league .

Second Honeymoon
11-27-2006, 12:06 PM
Yeah, I can always tell the coaches who want their kids to improve their skills and have fun as opposed to the coaches whose only concern is winning at all costs and yelling at young kids. Luckily, the good coaches (such as yourself Earl) are the silent majority. If that wasnt the case would have even more videos on YouTube of adults fighting in the stands and sidelines of little league and peewee games.

To keep things ontopic, Carr has been getting coaches son treatment since he got to the Texans. The benching a few weeks back was the first time he has ever been treated like a professional QB....and lets just say it hasnt worked out very well, has it? At least Carr can throw TDs when he is down by 21 or more points...hooray for lil' davey

doug from the woodlands

Second Honeymoon
11-27-2006, 12:09 PM
CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT

I think that keeping David Carr as starter was a prerequisite for Kubiak or anyone else that McNair interviewed.

I remember reading in the Chronic that McNair and company all met with 7 NFL guys that all said that Carr could win a Super Bowl. This was January.

I remember reading later that the "7 NFL guys" were interviewees for the HC job. It stands to reason that if the 7 NFL guys will say anything they think the owner wants to hear.

If the Chronicle says so, it must be true :)

OT - Is that van yours? If so, that paint job is awesome and what is great is that it doubles as a big 'PULL ME OVER AND SEARCH ME' sign for the van :) very nice indeed :shades:

Mr. White
11-27-2006, 12:35 PM
If the Chronicle says so, it must be true :):

Kinda seems like pre-draft propaganda was pretty thick and the Chronic was all too happy to help spread it. Especially Lopez.

OT - Is that van yours? If so, that paint job is awesome and what is great is that it doubles as a big 'PULL ME OVER AND SEARCH ME' sign for the van :) very nice indeed :shades:

I'm just a Floyd fan....not a van owner.

Runner
11-27-2006, 12:42 PM
The Chronicle. I've seen some articles concerning Capers/Casserly politics and Palmer/Pendry infighting. They just come a few months after the events.

Possibly we'll get some insight into the inner workings of this regime when they are gone too.

I'm not even sure if that is good or bad. Would any of us feel better if we really knew how the players felt about each other, why Moran Norris was let go leaving a void to this day, etc.?

It might satisfy the voyeur in us but I'm not sure it does anything else.

cuppacoffee
11-27-2006, 01:04 PM
Honest and frank moderators are a good thing for any message board. Obviously bringing in Reeves was nothing more than just a rubber stamp for McNair to pickup Lil' Davey's option. Any moron could have seen that Carr lacked the football intellect and had inherent flaws in his fundamentals that would prevent him from amounting to anythign other than a career journeyman. Reeves just needed a paycheck and McNair needed a rubber stamp. They got what they needed and never spoke to one another again.

As for Kubiak, he is an aggie, so you have to break things down really simple to him. You see Mr. Kubiak, Carr is not a good QB. You can dress him up and fix him up all you want but he will never good. In Aggie terms, you can put lipstick on a pig but its still a pig. I can't stand the current regime and both Kubiak and Carr can go jump in a lake for all I care. Pathetic coaching and QB play has been a constant throughout the history of our franchise...just par for the course




Being a moderator doesn't make them right....or wrong...just opinionated like the rest of us, but with a finger on the ban button. :D

Not that our mods are quick on the draw, quite the contrary.:bowdown:

I guess I would also believe that any of the posters here, whether moderator or not, who agrees with me is "honest and frank".

I am not an aggie, but any insinuation that Kubiak is not a good coach simply because of his college affiliation is blatantly lame...:penalty:

Wow..quite a bit of name calling in this post.

:coffee:
(oops, just read my own sig.)

Second Honeymoon
11-27-2006, 01:19 PM
Being a moderator doesn't make them right....or wrong...just opinionated like the rest of us, but with a finger on the ban button. :D

Not that our mods are quick on the draw, quite the contrary.:bowdown:

I guess I would also believe that any of the posters here, whether moderator or not, who agrees with me is "honest and frank".

I am not an aggie, but any insinuation that Kubiak is not a good coach simply because of his college affiliation is blatantly lame...:penalty:

Wow..quite a bit of name calling in this post.


(oops, just read my own sig.)

It's called exaggeration for effect. Everyone knows that only .0001% of Aggies are morons and retards and everyone knows that the whole UT football team isnt doing bonghits and sipping tea before games. I am bit sore with Kubiak right now so why not give the guy a good ole fashioned ribbing. I am sure he has nevvvvveerrrrr heard an aggie joke about aggies being stupid before
:sarcasm:

Doug From The Woodlands

thunderkyss
11-27-2006, 01:20 PM
Mr Honeymoon , I am a stirct anti Carr guy . I do not know of any player in sports history that has been given the cushion he has . I think charm gets you by for about 15 minutes and then you better do something like win . I think the players in the locker room know this to a man ... but hey he's a good guy .

Having said this I think the big Carr sucks signature is probably a little to much hate . As sad as it is its important to try to keep some sort of pride .:twocents:

Then I wish someone would finally step up and say something. I find it extremely odd, that the five guys on the offensive line have taken the blame for this pathetic performance for the last 4 1/2 years, and no one wants to say something. Same for every guy we've brought in through the draft or FA. No one has said anything. Not even the guys we've spat on (Gaffney, Bradford, Brown, Wand, Walker, Glenn, Coleman, Sharper, Miller........ )


You'd think they were part of the JFK investigation the way everyone...... to a man.. is so tight lipped about what's going on in the locker room.

cuppacoffee
11-27-2006, 01:46 PM
Then I wish someone would finally step up and say something. I find it extremely odd, that the five guys on the offensive line have taken the blame for this pathetic performance for the last 4 1/2 years, and no one wants to say something. Same for every guy we've brought in through the draft or FA. No one has said anything. Not even the guys we've spat on (Gaffney, Bradford, Brown, Wand, Walker, Glenn, Coleman, Sharper, Miller........ )


You'd think they were part of the JFK investigation the way everyone...... to a man.. is so tight lipped about what's going on in the locker room.

Maybe there is no story there..:um: idonno:

Why the 'spat on' reference. Players get cut all the time.


:coffee:

touttail
11-27-2006, 02:37 PM
Oh my did someone understand my theory on why V. Young should be our QB?? (In earlier post) Hmm, I think LP Stadium was covered with how many #10 jerseys?? Oh gee, that money could have spent 3 times that amount just between Houston and Austin. But I guess McNair, Casserly, and Kubes didn't want that BIG of a market to be the face of the team. Would have made alot more money than R. Bush jerseys bought with FEMA money! Oh yeah there are some politics here that the administrative staff don't won't to mention. :lightbulb:

Look what VY did Sunday. He "led" his team back for a win.
24-35 2 TDs plus a rushing TD.
They put VY in the shotgun constantly, "something he was familar with" like at UT. Why don't they find some situation Carr is comfortable with.

Bobby 119C

srstex
11-27-2006, 02:54 PM
And the beat goes on, could've, should've, would've done something, anything different in the draft, but I think if you look closely you'll see that Fischer and Payton are both better coaches than Kubiak, you want to know how you tell ? They both have a better recond then Kubiak does.
Nver underestimate the importance of the caoching staff.

Specnatz
11-27-2006, 04:10 PM
Look what VY did Sunday. He "led" his team back for a win.
24-35 2 TDs plus a rushing TD.
They put VY in the shotgun constantly, "something he was familar with" like at UT. Why don't they find some situation Carr is comfortable with.

Bobby 119C

I guess pacman getting the int and the stupid mistakes by the giants on offense and effense contributed nothing to the amazing comeback by vy, he did it all by himself.

TreWardTxn
11-27-2006, 04:34 PM
I guess pacman getting the int and the stupid mistakes by the giants on offense and effense contributed nothing to the amazing comeback by vy, he did it all by himself.

No one said that the Giants didn't make mistakes, every team that gets came back on does, but the victory wasn't handed to the Titans either, no phantom PI calls or defensive holdings. The point is, you can tell that down 21 points, VY kept playing and acted like they could win that game. And everyone on here can put up their own thoughts, but there was no question in my mind that after they put that first 7 points on the board, the Titans were gonna make things interesting. Young kept playing hard and his teammates fed off that enthusiasm. Would be nice to see that in Texans land some...

Hervoyel
11-27-2006, 04:48 PM
Being a moderator doesn't make them right....or wrong...just opinionated like the rest of us, but with a finger on the ban button. :D

Not that our mods are quick on the draw, quite the contrary.:bowdown:

(oops, just read my own sig.)

I find your lack of faith in the moderation system disturbing

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/darth.jpg

Marcus
11-27-2006, 05:10 PM
I'm just a Floyd fan....not a van owner.
I like your taste.:dance2:

Nighthawk
11-27-2006, 05:44 PM
IWe will soon see what Carr has to offer this team.

I nominate this sentence for Most Extraordinary Utterance of the Year.

In 2020 David Carr will be playing for the Texans using a walked and the mancrush bunch will be saying "we've just got to give David a fair chance."

HEY! HIS CAREER IS HALF OVER!

Kaiser Toro
11-27-2006, 05:49 PM
I nominate this sentence for Most Extraordinary Utterance of the Year.

In 2020 David Carr will be playing for the Texans using a walked and the mancrush bunch will be saying "we've just got to give David a fair chance."

HEY! HIS CAREER IS HALF OVER!

I nominate this post as the Most Likely to Make Everyone Scratch their Head.