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coachdent
10-29-2006, 04:07 PM
Reggie Bush today:

Threw an INT
5 rushes
11 yards

4 catches
5 yards

Simply amazing.

mexican_texan
10-29-2006, 04:09 PM
You only get a player that can have this kind of an impact once in your lifetime

TexansLucky13
10-29-2006, 04:09 PM
Yea, had a pass wrestled away from him kinda like that AJ one too. Ravens got 14 points from Reggie Bush.

Hookem Horns
10-29-2006, 04:38 PM
Reggie Bush today:

Threw an INT
5 rushes
11 yards

4 catches
5 yards

Simply amazing.

You forgot the lost fumble.

Honoring Earl 34
10-29-2006, 04:41 PM
he also hurt his ankle .

GuerillaBlack
10-29-2006, 04:47 PM
Yeah, he got injured bad today. He sat on the field for a while before limping off.

SuperMario
10-29-2006, 05:39 PM
Money well spent for the Saints:rolleyes:

Dr. Toro
10-29-2006, 06:01 PM
Don't like piling on the guy... but I'll take Lundy, Mario and Moulds any day over Bush. He can't do it all... but he sure as heckfire should with what he's getting paid.

dtran04
10-29-2006, 06:35 PM
Marques Colston......WOW.

I made the mistake of benching him today. OUCH

coachdent
10-29-2006, 08:31 PM
Colston is a terrific receiver. Look like genuises picking him up so late.

Tulip
10-29-2006, 08:36 PM
Wow. Immediate impact, eh?

TEXANRED
10-29-2006, 08:39 PM
Reggie Bush today:

Threw an INT
5 rushes
11 yards

4 catches
5 yards

Simply amazing.

When I read the tittle I thought you were going to inform us that God was still not a Texan fan.

TD
10-29-2006, 09:36 PM
It'll be interesting to see what happens with the Saints the rest of the year. A lot of their success can be attributed to successfully using Bush as a decoy. I don't know how much longer that 2+ YPC is going to attract attention.

I'm still waiting to hear the first "expert" say that maybe they were wrong about him.

Maddict5
10-29-2006, 09:40 PM
i watched this game- thought it was funny when it was announced at the start of the game
that vic fangio had been hired by the saints as a defensive consultant

result: saints D that has been playing well + a struggling ravens offence + vic fangio = ravens scoring 35 points LOL

mexican_texan
10-29-2006, 09:42 PM
I think Vic Fangio is with the Ravens as a consultant.

bah007
10-29-2006, 11:30 PM
Bush sprained his ankle. Not serious.

Lundy for $1 million > Bush for $60 million

DCSaints_fan
10-30-2006, 12:03 AM
I guess Bush haters aren't going to have to endore the commericials and ESPN man love for much longer

Hope you guys like Michael Vick though, he regained his status as Wonder Boy today

HJam72
10-30-2006, 02:46 AM
Reggie Bush today:

Threw an INT
5 rushes
11 yards

4 catches
5 yards



You people just don't understand how important those 16 yards were for them! :brickwall Besides, what would ESPN do without God?

Toro
10-30-2006, 03:21 AM
But but wait.. The Texans STILL could have used those 16 yards today.

I mean, forget about the fact that Lundy's had more 100 yard rushing games this season than Bush has, and Williams has given the Texans a forcefor opposing offensive lines to gameplan and double team against, but man, they SUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE should have taken Bush.

:chicken:

Maddict5
10-30-2006, 06:04 AM
I think Vic Fangio is with the Ravens as a consultant.


NOOOOOOOOOOO!! that was the 1 thing that brightened up yesterday for me and made me laugh...

tulexan
10-30-2006, 09:05 AM
Wasn't it great how Reggie "spiced things up" with an interception in the end zone after "dancing around the defenders"?

INCREDIBLE

kastofsna
10-30-2006, 09:26 AM
it's amazing that in a year when rookies are playing great all across the board for just about every team, the top 2 picks are lagging behind a bit. interesting.

reggie bush isn't a threat outside at all. and he makes too many moves and isn't big enough to be too effective between the tackles. just put him at WR, that's what he is.

mexican_texan
10-30-2006, 09:35 AM
it's amazing that in a year when rookies are playing great all across the board for just about every team, the top 2 picks are lagging behind a bit. interesting.

reggie bush isn't a threat outside at all. and he makes too many moves and isn't big enough to be too effective between the tackles. just put him at WR, that's what he is.
That's what we've been saying. He still would have been drafted in the top 5 if he came out as a WR.

GuerillaBlack
10-30-2006, 04:33 PM
it's amazing that in a year when rookies are playing great all across the board for just about every team, the top 2 picks are lagging behind a bit. interesting.

reggie bush isn't a threat outside at all. and he makes too many moves and isn't big enough to be too effective between the tackles. just put him at WR, that's what he is.

I think Mario has been producing. More than Bush. He had a sack and four tackles yesterday.

marroncito
10-30-2006, 06:08 PM
I think Mario has been producing. More than Bush. He had a sack and four tackles yesterday.

Which are really solid stats for a Dlineman.

TEXANS84
10-30-2006, 06:42 PM
-2 in fantasy football points.

Man, with my first 3 draft picks I drafted S. Alexander (hurt), L. Fitzgerald (hurt), and Reggie Bush.:crying:

domedog316
10-30-2006, 07:20 PM
Wow.

I mean, hey.....I would be mad too if I were a texan fan but the loss yesterday isn't on Bush. I would be interested in how many of you guys actually watched the game? On his fumble, the guy was on him almost at the same time he took the handoff......Ladanian Thomlinson doesn't hold it there..

The INT....well...that's on the coaches.....why the heck to you ask this 60 million dollar RB to go out and pass against the number 3 D in the league? Why the heck did we get Drew Brees?

It's karma guys.....all you haters who keep hatin' and wishing ill towards a team which you don't even play this season will get bitten in the azz by karmatic law.....(that's a joke)


I mean, everybody here complains about the Bush threads but they are ALWAYS started by a Texan fan.......you can keep Lundy because he is going to be like....hmmmmm.....Dominic Rhodes....a good change of pace guy but he will not carry your team.....for the record Bush won't either...(yet)...that's Deuces job now and our coaches better realize that trying to continiuously get the ball to Reggie even after he hurt his knee at Cleveland is incredibly short sighted.....I guess you guys didn't realize that he's been going out there on a gimpy knee and playing through the pain since the 1st game of the season....

Nah, ya'll wouldn't know anything about that.

Goldeagle
10-30-2006, 07:34 PM
You only get a player that can have this kind of an impact once in your lifetime


LOL!

Watch ESPN spin this one and notice the "stunning silence" from Colinsworthless last night!

bah007
10-30-2006, 09:47 PM
Wow.

I mean, hey.....I would be mad too if I were a texan fan but the loss yesterday isn't on Bush. I would be interested in how many of you guys actually watched the game? On his fumble, the guy was on him almost at the same time he took the handoff......Ladanian Thomlinson doesn't hold it there..

The INT....well...that's on the coaches.....why the heck to you ask this 60 million dollar RB to go out and pass against the number 3 D in the league? Why the heck did we get Drew Brees?

It's karma guys.....all you haters who keep hatin' and wishing ill towards a team which you don't even play this season will get bitten in the azz by karmatic law.....(that's a joke)


I mean, everybody here complains about the Bush threads but they are ALWAYS started by a Texan fan.......you can keep Lundy because he is going to be like....hmmmmm.....Dominic Rhodes....a good change of pace guy but he will not carry your team.....for the record Bush won't either...(yet)...that's Deuces job now and our coaches better realize that trying to continiuously get the ball to Reggie even after he hurt his knee at Cleveland is incredibly short sighted.....I guess you guys didn't realize that he's been going out there on a gimpy knee and playing through the pain since the 1st game of the season....

Nah, ya'll wouldn't know anything about that.

Wow.

Wow.

If his knee is hurt he sure isnt helping it by jumping side to side on turf.

Then again, we all knew he was a east/west type player. Thats his game right there.

Goldeagle
10-30-2006, 09:50 PM
I dont think anyone hates the Saints, I think we hate teh HYPE MACHINE that keeps telling us how GREAT Bush is and how he is outplaying everyone else.

Well, Id rather have Lundy, I was a D Brick draft fan, but Mario is probably outplaying the first 4 picks (even though VY gets a win, he does not look great with a subpar 50% completition).

And to be fair with Reggie God....er Bush, its early to judge this rookie class. I just wish ESPN, NBC, and any other Football program would have not judged this group before the draft.

gg no re
10-30-2006, 10:40 PM
No hate, but if your 60m back is playing on a bad knee, shouldn't he..... rest?

If the knee is good enough for him to play, it is good enough to not be held accountable for Bush's progress.

run-david-run
10-30-2006, 10:43 PM
I think you can make a case that Mario has been producing more then any of the other top 4 picks, especially when you consider we were the worst team last year while the Jets and Saints had winning records the year before they went down the tubes. Leading the team in sacks with 3.5 and having a meaningful impact on an obviously improving D. VY has lead the Titans to 2 wins, but you cant honestly say he was the main reason as Henry ran for 178 in one and we gave up 5 turnovers and 2 non-offensive TD's in the other. Reggie's troubles are documented and D'Brick has given up a few sacks. All in all, Im still hapy with our draft.

Texans_Chick
10-30-2006, 10:55 PM
Ultimately, all players have pros and cons.

The cons of special athletes that are outside the NFL mold, like Bush and VY, is that the best way of using them is to radically change your offense to take advantage of their gifts.

This can work out nicely for you if the player is playing well and not hurt, but if they get hurt you are screwed. Feast or famine.

Mike Vick is that way. Nice upside, but if he gets dinged, you run the risk of derailing your team. It is hard to build for the long run to have an offense that is focused on the abilities of one player instead of having a system that can work with multiple players in different positions.

No need to hate on Bush or take joy in someone else's pain. Not cool and karmic trouble.

coachdent
10-30-2006, 10:58 PM
Wow.

I mean, hey.....I would be mad too if I were a texan fan but the loss yesterday isn't on Bush. I would be interested in how many of you guys actually watched the game? On his fumble, the guy was on him almost at the same time he took the handoff......Ladanian Thomlinson doesn't hold it there..

The INT....well...that's on the coaches.....why the heck to you ask this 60 million dollar RB to go out and pass against the number 3 D in the league? Why the heck did we get Drew Brees?

It's karma guys.....all you haters who keep hatin' and wishing ill towards a team which you don't even play this season will get bitten in the azz by karmatic law.....(that's a joke)


I mean, everybody here complains about the Bush threads but they are ALWAYS started by a Texan fan.......you can keep Lundy because he is going to be like....hmmmmm.....Dominic Rhodes....a good change of pace guy but he will not carry your team.....for the record Bush won't either...(yet)...that's Deuces job now and our coaches better realize that trying to continiuously get the ball to Reggie even after he hurt his knee at Cleveland is incredibly short sighted.....I guess you guys didn't realize that he's been going out there on a gimpy knee and playing through the pain since the 1st game of the season....

Nah, ya'll wouldn't know anything about that.

We all would know about that because we all haters knew that the little guy wasn't the massive physical specimen that ESPN boosted him up to be.

I understand the winds blew pretty hard in NO, but have they blown away any criticism at all of the stonecold mortal lock of the century in RB? NO ONE in the mainstream has said boo about his lack of production. Joseph Addai, Laurence Maroney, Maurice Jones-Drew, DeAngelo Williams and the list goes on of rookie running backs that are FAR surpassing RB. ESPN ran highlights of his four yard receptions for a month. Yet at every turn, people take shots at the Texans, their management and the frustrations of their fans over not taking Bush or VYoung. As this is a Texan message board, it would be our opportunity to vent those frustrations and perhaps educate one or two New Orleans fans. I'm sorry... education in Louisiana? My bad.... :redtowel:

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-30-2006, 11:58 PM
the 60 million dollar punt returner

TexansLucky13
10-31-2006, 12:02 AM
the 60 million dollar punt returner

With a chronic ankle injury. Reggie says he has had the injury since week 1. No bueno!

Maddict5
11-02-2006, 10:40 AM
With a chronic ankle injury. Reggie says he has had the injury since week 1. No bueno!

i love the way players (not just reggie) say they've been playing through injury half way thru the season to explain their crapiness

infantrycak
11-02-2006, 10:48 AM
One of two things is true--the Saints are lying about Bush's injury or they are stupid. By rule, if players miss practice they have to be on the injury report. If Bush has had an ankle injury he should have been missing practice time to let it heal or the Saints are stupid. If they ain't stupid...

nunusguy
11-03-2006, 01:39 PM
*Offensive Rookie of the Year -- Patriots RB Laurence Maroney : With all due respect to Reggie Bush, Laurence Maroney has been and will be the most impressive rookie running back. He is leading the NFL in kickoff return average, has demonstrated more speed than any big man should possess, and looks as if he will grab the Rookie of the Year."
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9773700

kastofsna
11-03-2006, 01:56 PM
as good as maroney has been, colston has outshined him.

bah007
11-03-2006, 03:19 PM
Why does the media think that the rookie of the year HAS to be a running back?

Does that just handicap it so Bush has a better chance?

TD
11-03-2006, 03:36 PM
as good as maroney has been, colston has outshined him.

On a side note, I still haven't figured out if Colston is a TE or WR. Yahoo FFL lets me play him at either one. Is he playing both?

bah007
11-03-2006, 03:47 PM
On a side note, I still haven't figured out if Colston is a TE or WR. Yahoo FFL lets me play him at either one. Is he playing both?

No. ESPN botched that one & marked him as a TE before the season.

kastofsna
11-03-2006, 04:08 PM
ESPN didn't botch that; he was drafted to be a TE.

infantrycak
11-03-2006, 04:49 PM
ESPN didn't botch that; he was drafted to be a TE.

No some draftniks thought he was going to get moved to TE. The Saints may have entertained that thought if he didn't work out at WR but they had him playing WR in practice and he shined there to make the team.

TD
11-03-2006, 07:50 PM
All I know is he's the best FFL "tight end" I've ever had. A big thanks to whoever screwed up.

aj.
11-03-2006, 08:04 PM
Re: Colston.. this was a post I made back in January while watching the East - West Shrine game. Note three of the four players mentioned (Jennings, Washington, Colston) are now making serious noise in the NFL. The East West game is in Houston this year at Reliant. Support it ... it's not the Senior Bowl but there's talent there.

http://forums.houstontexans.com/showpost.php?p=257496&postcount=13

JDizzle
11-03-2006, 08:12 PM
I think Vic Fangio is with the Ravens as a consultant.

And by "consultant", he means "scapegoat".