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threetoedpete
10-29-2006, 12:32 AM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/4293410.html
http://www.profootballhof.com/history/story.jsp?story_id=2235

Break Down by position:
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/story.jsp?story_id=2234

Pick your top seven . LOL. Good luck. Glad I'm not on the commettee.

Eric Allen(CB 1988-1994 Philadelphia Eagles, 1995-1997 New Orleans Saints, 1998-2001 Oakland Raiders)

Ken Anderson (QB 1971-1986 Cincinnati Bengals)

Steve Atwater (S 1989-1999 Denver Broncos)

Mark Bavaro (TE 1985-1990 New York Giants, 1992 Cleveland Browns, 1993-1994 Philadelphia Eagles)

Cornelius Bennett (LB 1987-1995 Buffalo Bills, 1996-1998 Atlanta Falcons, 1999-2000 Indianapolis Colts)

Cliff Branch (WR 1972-1985 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders)

Gil Brandt (administrator 1960-1988 Cowboys, 1995-present NFL)

Robert Brazile (LB 1975-1984 Oilers)

C.O. Brocato (scout 1974-1976, 1981-present Oilers/Titans)

Joe Browne (contributor 1970-present NFL

Joey Browner (S 1983-1991 Minnesota Vikings, 1992 Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

LeRoy Butler (S 1990-2001 Green Bay Packers)

Harold Carmichael (WR 1971-1983 Philadelphia Eagles, 1984 Cowboys)

Todd Christensen (TE 1979 New York Giants, 1979-1988 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders)

Gary Clark (WR 1985-1992 Washington Redskins, 1993-1994 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 1995 Miami Dolphins)

Raymond Clayborn (CB 1977-1989 New England Patriots, 1990-1991 Cleveland Browns)

Mark Clayton (WR 1983-1992 Miami Dolphins, 1993 Green Bay Packers)

Ben Coates (TE 1991-1999 New England Patriots, 2000 Baltimore Ravens)

Don Coryell (coach 1973-1977 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers)

Jim Covert (T 1983-1990 Chicago Bears)

Roger Craig (RB 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-1993 Minnesota Vikings)

Randall Cunningham (QB 1985-1995 Philadelphia Eagles, 1997-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000 Cowboys, 2001 Baltimore Ravens)

Isaac Curtis (WR 1973-1984 Cincinnati Bengals)

Terrell Davis (RB 1995-2001 Denver Broncos)

Dermontti Dawson (C 1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers)

Fred Dean (DE 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-1985 San Francisco 49ers)

Ed DeBartolo Jr. (owner 1979-1997 San Francisco 49ers)

Richard Dent (DE 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles)

Chris Doleman (DE/LB 1985-1993, 1999 Minnesota Vikings, 1994-1995 Atlanta Falcons, 1996-1998 San Francisco 49ers)

Mark Duper (WR 1982-1992 Miami Dolphins)

Kenny Easley (S 1981-1987 Seattle Seahawks)

Henry Ellard (WR 1983-1993 Los Angeles Rams, 1994-1998 Washington Redskins, 1998 New England Patriots)

Tom Flores (coach 1979-1987 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-1994 Seattle Seahawks)

David Fulcher (S 1986-1992 Cincinnati Bengals, 1993 Los Angeles Raiders)

Randy Gradishar (LB 1974-1983 Denver Broncos)

Kevin Greene (LB-DE 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-1995 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-1999 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers)

Russ Grimm (G 1981-1991 Washington Redskins)

Ray Guy (P 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders)

Charles Haley (DE/LB 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-1996 Cowboys)

Ken Harvey (LB 1988-1993 Phoenix Cardinals, 1994-1998 Washington Redskins)

Lester Hayes (CB 1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders)

Jay Hilgenberg (C 1981-1991 Chicago Bears, 1992 Cleveland Browns, 1993 New Orleans Saints)

Chris Hinton (OL 1983-1989 Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts, 1990-1993 Atlanta Falcons, 1994-1995 Minnesota Vikings)

Kent Hull (C 1986-1996 Buffalo Bills)

Michael Irvin (WR 1988-1999 Cowboys)

Rickey Jackson (LB 1981-1993 New Orleans Saints, 1994-1995 San Francisco 49ers)

Joe Jacoby (T 1981-1993 Washington Redskins)

Jimmy Johnson (coach 1989-1993 Cowboys, 1996-1999 Miami Dolphins)

Brent Jones (TE 1987-1997 San Francisco 49ers)

Ed "Too Tall" Jones (DE 1974-1978, 1980-1989 Cowboys)

Jerry Jones (owner 1989-present Cowboys)

Steve Jordan (TE 1982-1994 Minnesota Vikings)

Mike Kenn (T 1978-1994 Atlanta Falcons)

Frank "Bucko" Kilroy (contributor 1962-1964 Washington Redskins, 1965-1970 Cowboys, 1971-1984 New England Patriots)

Joe Klecko (DL 1977-1987 New York Jets, 1988 Indianapolis Colts)

Chuck Knox (coach 1973-1977 Los Angeles Rams, 1978-1982 Buffalo Bills, 1983-1991 Seattle Seahawks, 1992-1994 Los Angeles Rams)

Bernie Kosar (QB 1985-1993 Cleveland Browns, 1993 Cowboys, 1994-1996 Miami Dolphins)

Bob Kuechenberg (G 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins)

Carnell Lake (DB 1989-1998 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1999 Jacksonville Jaguars, 2001 Baltimore Ravens)

Albert Lewis (CB 1983-1993 Kansas City Chiefs, 1994-1998 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders)

Nick Lowery (K 1978 New England Patriots, 1980-1993 Kansas City Chiefs, 1994-1996 New York Jets)

Dexter Manley (DE 1981-1989 Washington Redskins, 1990 Phoenix Cardinals, 1991 Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

Charles Mann (DE 1983-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 San Francisco 49ers)

Bruce Matthews (OL 1983-2001 Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Titans)

Clay Matthews (LB 1978-1993 Cleveland Browns, 1994-1996 Atlanta Falcons)

Randall McDaniel (G 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-2001 Tampa Bay Buccaneers)

Karl Mecklenburg (LB 1983-1994 Denver Broncos)

Sam Mills (LB 1986-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-1997 Carolina Panthers)

Art Modell (owner 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2003 Baltimore Ravens)

Art Monk (WR 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles)

Bill Nunn (scout 1968-present Pittsburgh Steelers)

John Offerdahl (LB 1986-1993 Miami Dolphins)

Buddy Parker (coach 1949 Chicago Cardinals, 1951-1956 Detroit Lions, 1957-1964 Pittsburgh Steelers)

Lemar Parrish (CB 1970-1977 Cincinnati Bengals, 1978-1981 Washington Redskins, 1982 Buffalo Bills)

Drew Pearson (WR 1973-1983 Cowboys)

Jim Plunkett (QB 1971-1975 New England Patriots, 1976-1977 San Francisco 49ers, 1979-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders)

Greg Pruitt (RB 1973-1981 Cleveland Browns, 1982-1984 Los Angeles Raiders)

Andre Reed (WR 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins)

Dan Reeves (coach 1981-1992 Denver Broncos, 1993-1996 New York Giants, 1997-2003 Atlanta Falcons; consultant Houston Texans 2005)

Lee Remmel (contributor 1974-present Green Bay Packers)

Ken Riley (CB 1969-1983 Cincinnati Bengals)

Reggie Roby (P 1983-1992 Miami Dolphins, 1993-1994 Washington Redskins, 1995 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1996-1997 Oilers, 1998 San Francisco 49ers)

Ed Sabol (founder NFL Films)

Steve Sabol (president NFL Films)

Clark Shaughnessy (coach 1944-1947 Washington Redskins, 1948-1949 Los Angeles Rams, 1951-1962 Chicago Bears)

Donnie Shell (S 1974-1987 Pittsburgh Steelers)

Phil Simms (QB 1979-1993 New York Giants)

Brian Sipe (QB 1974-1983 Cleveland Browns)

Fred Smerlas (NT 1979-1989 Buffalo Bills, 1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991-1992 New England Patriots)

Ken Stabler (QB 1970-1979 Oakland Raiders, 1980-1981 Oilers, 1982-1984 New Orleans Saints)

Mark Stepnoski (OL 1989-1994, 1999-2001 Cowboys, 1995-1998 Oilers/Titans)

Rex Stuart (official 1984-present NFL)

Paul Tagliabue (commissioner 1989-2006 NFL)

Darryl Talley (LB 1983-1994 Buffalo Bills, 1995 Atlanta Falcons, 1996 Minnesota Vikings)

Steve Tasker (special teams/WR 1985-1986 Houston Oilers, 1986-1997 Buffalo Bills)

Joe Theismann (QB 1974-1985 Washington Redskins)

Derrick Thomas (LB 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs)

Thurman Thomas (RB 1988-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Miami Dolphins)

Andre Tippett (LB 1982-1993 New England Patriots)

Jeff Van Note (C 1969-1986 Atlanta Falcons)

Dick Vermeil (coach Philadelphia Eagles 1976-1982, St. Louis Rams 1997-1999, Kansas City Chiefs 2001-2005)

Herschel Walker (RB 1986-1989, 1996-1997 Cowboys, 1989-1991 Minnesota Vikings, 1992-1994 Philadelphia Eagles, 1995 New York Giants)

Ricky Watters (RB 1992-1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1995-1997 Philadelphia Eagles, 1998-2001 Seattle Seahawks)

Roger Wehrli (CB 1969-1982 St. Louis Cardinals)

Ralph Wilson (owner 1959-present Buffalo Bills)

Steve Wisniewski (G 1989-2001 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders)

Ron Wolf (administrator 1991-2001 Green Bay Packers)

Louis Wright (CB 1975-1986 Denver Broncos)

George Young (administrator 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-1978 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 NFL)

Gary Zimmerman (T 1986-1992 Minnesota Vikings, 1993-1997 Denver Broncos)


And Old Rag Top

TexanSam
10-29-2006, 12:40 AM
Ed DeBartolo Jr, Ron Wolf, Bruce Matthews, Dick Vermeil, Michael Irvin,
Ed "Too Tall" Jones, Herschel Walker

That's my 7.

threetoedpete
10-29-2006, 12:48 AM
I don't know with the new TV contract and labor issues settled for a while, How do you leave Tags off the list. Bunch of cow polks on your list. Get use to a little dissapointmnt. Irving's not going in untill Monk goes in. That seemed perfectly clear after last years selections. Eastern press has a choke hold on that nomination. And they ain't turning loose.

threetoedpete
10-29-2006, 01:12 AM
Paul Tagliabue
Phill Simms
Thurman Thomas or Rickey Watters
Bruce Mathews or Russ Grimm
Gill Brandt
Charlie Sanders
Ed Jones

That's my 7. Give ya two cow Polks

jgl35
10-29-2006, 09:30 AM
Mark Bavaro TE --tough as they come.Not many tackled him without help. Looked for guys to run over.

Ray Guy Punter--Only punter picked in the first round. Showed punting was more then just how far you could kick. Could make the ball do tricks.

Russ Grimm, Joe Jacoby. OL-- The reason Washington won Super Bowls. Should go in as a unit because the Hogs played as a unit.

Bruce Matthews OL-- Played forever everywhere along the line at a high level.Will not see his likes again soon.

Sam Mills LB-- Too small to play. Had to start in the USFL with the old Phillly Stars. Proved that physical size means nothing compaired to heart. Just a great leader on the field and a great man period.

Ed Sabol Founder on NFL Films-- The reason we have records of the game before it really became popular. The Dallas- Green Bay "Ice Bowl" is the best known, but there is film of every game from then until now.
Just a guy with an idea to film pro football for the love of the game.

Final note: Bob Hays not even on the list anymore. Some day somebody will GET THIS RIGHT and vote him in where he belongs.

threetoedpete
11-16-2006, 08:12 PM
//www.profootballhof.com/hall/story.jsp?story_id=2246



Terrell Davis - RB - 1995-2001 Denver Broncos
Dermontti Dawson - C - 1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers
Fred Dean - DE - 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-1985 San Francisco 49ers
Richard Dent - DE - 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles
Randy Gradishar - LB - 1974-1983 Denver Broncos
Kevin Greene - LB/DE - 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-1995 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-1999 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers
Russ Grimm - G - 1981-1991 Washington Redskins
Ray Guy - P - 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Charles Haley - DE/LB - 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-1996 Dallas Cowboys


Michael Irvin - WR - 1988-1999 Dallas Cowboys
Bob Kuechenberg - G - 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins
Bruce Matthews - G/T/C - 1983-2001 Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Titans
Randall McDaniel - G - 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-2001 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Art Modell - Owner - 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2003 Baltimore Ravens
Thurman Thomas - RB - 1988-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Miami Dolphins
Andre Tippett - LB - 1982-1993 New England Patriots, injured 1989
Roger Wehrli - CB - 1969-1982 St. Louis Cardinals
George Young - GM/Administrator - 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-1978 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League
Gary Zimmerman - T - 1986-1992 Minnesota Vikings, 1993-1997 Denver
Broncos
Art Monk - WR - 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles
Andre Reed - WR -1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Ken Stabler - QB - 1970-1979 Oakland Raiders, 1980-1981 Houston Oilers, 1982-1984 New Orleans Saints
Paul Tagliabue - Commissioner - 1989-2006 National Football League
Derrick Thomas - LB - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs

The Class of 2007 will be determined at the Selection Committee's annual meeting on Saturday, February 3, 2007, in Miami, Florida, the day before Super Bowl XLI. The election results are announced immediately following the meeting at a press conference at the media headquarters. Hall of Fame bylaws stipulate that between three and six new members will be selected each year.

Specnatz
11-16-2006, 11:33 PM
Just because they are the list does not mean they get in.

Bruce Matthews - G/T/C - 1983-2001 Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Titans
Thurman Thomas (RB 1988-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Miami Dolphins)
Derrick Thomas - LB - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs
LeRoy Butler (S 1990-2001 Green Bay Packers)
Sam Mills (LB 1986-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-1997 Carolina Panthers)
Reggie Roby (P 1983-1992 Miami Dolphins, 1993-1994 Washington Redskins, 1995 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1996-1997 Oilers, 1998 San Francisco 49ers)
Ed Sabol (founder NFL Films)

I left off Vermeil and Tagliabue because they will get in, and they just retired.

One thing I do not get is how anyone can vote Terrel Davis into the HoF. It is the HoF not the hall "i was good but got injured" of fame. I am sorry his career was cut short but that is how it goes. His numbers do not even compare to those that are in it.

bah007
11-16-2006, 11:34 PM
Just because they are the list does not mean they get in.

Bruce Matthews - G/T/C - 1983-2001 Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Titans
Thurman Thomas (RB 1988-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Miami Dolphins)
Derrick Thomas - LB - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs
LeRoy Butler (S 1990-2001 Green Bay Packers)
Sam Mills (LB 1986-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-1997 Carolina Panthers)
Reggie Roby (P 1983-1992 Miami Dolphins, 1993-1994 Washington Redskins, 1995 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1996-1997 Oilers, 1998 San Francisco 49ers)
Ed Sabol (founder NFL Films)

I left off Vermeil and Tagliabue because they will get in, and they just retired.

One thing I do not get is how anyone can vote Terrel Davis into the HoF. It is the HoF not the hall "i was good but got injured" of fame. I am sorry his career was cut short but that is how it goes. His numbers do not even compare to those that are in it.

What about Steve Atwater?

He is probably the 2nd best safety of all time behind Ronnie Lott.

StarStruck
11-17-2006, 01:39 AM
Charles Haley (DE/LB 1992-1996 Cowboys)
Michael Irvin (WR 1988-1999 Cowboys)
Jimmy Johnson (coach 1989-1993 Cowboys)
Ed "Too Tall" Jones (DE 1974-1978, 1980-1989 Cowboys)
Jerry Jones (owner 1989-present Cowboys)
Drew Pearson (WR 1973-1983 Cowboys)
Mark Stepnoski (OL 1989-1994, 1999-2001 Cowboys)
Thurman Thomas (RB 1988-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Miami Dolphins)

I know that I listed eight, but had to include Thuman and would like to see Matthews as well.

kastofsna
11-17-2006, 08:25 AM
the only sure-things for me there are bruce matthews, paul tagliabue and ray guy. the rest i can't make an argument for letting 'em stick around another year.

Specnatz
11-17-2006, 12:40 PM
Charles Haley (DE/LB 1992-1996 Cowboys)
Michael Irvin (WR 1988-1999 Cowboys)
Jimmy Johnson (coach 1989-1993 Cowboys)
Ed "Too Tall" Jones (DE 1974-1978, 1980-1989 Cowboys)
Jerry Jones (owner 1989-present Cowboys)
Drew Pearson (WR 1973-1983 Cowboys)
Mark Stepnoski (OL 1989-1994, 1999-2001 Cowboys)
Thurman Thomas (RB 1988-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Miami Dolphins)

I know that I listed eight, but had to include Thuman and would like to see Matthews as well.

Is Alvin Haper eligiable, I think you forgot to list him as well. We all know if you play for the cowpukes then you deserve to be in the HoF

infantrycak
11-17-2006, 12:42 PM
Is Alvin Haper eligiable, I think you forgot to list him as well. We all know if you play for the cowpukes then you deserve to be in the HoF

Who on that list clearly doesn't deserve to be in the Hall?--other than just hating on the Cowboys. And no Harper does not deserve Hall consideration.

Bob Hayes should be added though.

kastofsna
11-17-2006, 12:42 PM
Is Alvin Haper eligiable, I think you forgot to list him as well. We all know if you play for the cowpukes then you deserve to be in the HoF
funny because most girls' fans say there's a bias against putting their players in the hall. funny indeed.

god, alvin harper SUCKED with the bucs.

threetoedpete
01-12-2007, 12:02 AM
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/story.jsp?story_id=2285


Class of 2007 to be selected from list of finalists
January 10, 2007

Bruce Matthews
Paul Tagliabue, Thurman Thomas, Michael Irvin, and Bruce Matthews are among the 17 finalists that will be considered for election to the Pro Football Hall of Fame when the Hall's Board of Selectors meets in Miami, Florida on Saturday, February 3, 2007.



Joining these four finalists, are 11 other modern-era players and two players nominated earlier by the Hall of Fame's Senior Committee. The Senior Committee nominees, announced in August 2006, are former Cleveland Browns guard Gene Hickerson and Detroit Lions tight end Charlie Sanders. The other modern-era player finalists include defensive ends Fred Dean and Richard Dent; guards Russ Grimm and Bob Kuechenberg; punter Ray Guy; wide receivers Art Monk and Andre Reed; linebackers Derrick Thomas and Andre Tippett; cornerback Roger Wehrli; and tackle Gary Zimmerman.

To be elected, a finalist must receive a minimum positive vote of 80 percent.

Listed alphabetically, the 17 finalists with their positions, teams, and years active follow:

Fred Dean - Defensive End - 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-1985 San Francisco 49ers

Richard Dent - Defensive End - 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles


Russ Grimm - Guard - 1981-1991 Washington Redskins
Ray Guy - Punter - 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Gene Hickerson - Guard - 1958-1973 Cleveland Browns
Michael Irvin - Wide Receiver - 1988-1999 Dallas Cowboys
Bob Kuechenberg - Guard - 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins
Bruce Matthews - Guard, Tackle, Center - 1983-2001 Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Titans
Art Monk - Wide Receiver - 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles
Andre Reed - Wide Receiver - 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Charlie Sanders - Tight End - 1968-1977 Detroit Lions
Paul Tagliabue - NFL Commissioner - 1989-2006
Derrick Thomas - Linebacker - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs
Thurman Thomas - Running Back - 1988-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Miami Dolphins
Andre Tippett - Linebacker - 1982-1993 New England Patriots
Roger Wehrli - Cornerback - 1969-1982 St. Louis Cardinals
Gary Zimmerman - Tackle - 1986-1992 Minnesota Vikings, 1993-1997 Denver Broncos

WWJD
01-12-2007, 08:41 AM
Who on that list clearly doesn't deserve to be in the Hall?--other than just hating on the Cowboys. And no Harper does not deserve Hall consideration.

Bob Hayes should be added though.

Alvin Harper was NOT a HOF player. A good one no doubt but not that good.

Bob Hayes should have been in a long, long time ago.

eriadoc
01-12-2007, 01:24 PM
funny because most girls' fans say there's a bias against putting their players in the hall. funny indeed.

I'm not a Cowboys fan, but they have a point. When you see guys like Bob Hayes and Drew Pearson being left out, while Lynn Swann and his pedestrian numbers get in, it raises a red flag to me as well. And Swann won 4 rings, but how many did Pearson win? At least 2, I think. And Hayes won 2 as well, I believe and changed the way the game was played in the process. Anyone could make as strong a case for Ed Jones as many of the defensive ends that are currently in.

Harper shouldn't even have been mentioned in this thread.